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super red91
02-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Alright guys here is your chance to finally have some real drag wheels made for your tbird. I have contacted Brad, cudaz101, about having some custom drag wheels made. He explained to me the entire process he has gone through with several other companies, and well to sum it all up it hasn't really gone anywhere.

Since then he has contacted and become a vendor with holeshot wheels, see below for their website link. He is currently in the process of working with them for some front and rear drag wheels. I believe the rears will be 15"X9" and will not require spacers. The fronts would be 15"X3" and may require spacers. I think they also have a 17" version coming out soon if anyone is interested. A set of 16" wheels may also be available, but you would have to ask Brad.

Right now I am just seeing who would be interested. If we get 5-6 guys to go in, we should be able to get a decent discount.

Hopefully Brad will chime in with any more info/specifics about the new drag wheels.

A test set is supposed to arrive late next week, so a decent amount of progress has already been made.

Thanks again Brad for getting the ball rolling on this one.


http://www.holeshotwheels.com/

XR7 Dave
02-25-2009, 09:06 AM
Any idea on style and pricing?

super red91
02-25-2009, 09:30 AM
If I remember correctly, you can choose any holeshot style and the price is not affected.


Preliminary pricing was upper $300 for the rears and lower $300 for the fronts. This may have changed though recently (for the better or worse) and I'm not sure how much the pricing is affected for a group rate.

cudaz101
02-25-2009, 11:10 AM
Still working on the Mock up wheels. Too many maybe's to list right now.

Working on making them so no spacers are required as well as hubcentric in all sizes and widths.

Stay tuned. Will no more soon as I get the test wheels late next week as promised.

Prices will be out soooon. Group purchase will make a substantial differance. I need at least 6 sets to bring cost down. So group pricing will be available as well as non group.

Styles....ANY Nice for a change eh?? If you cant find something you like among their choices then I dont know what to tell ya...;-)

Thanks for the interest.

Cheers


Brad

Ira R.
02-25-2009, 12:35 PM
Brad sent this info out about a month ago and I have been waiting patiently for his reappearance with some details. I am sure I am not the only one considering the various wheel styles that may be available.

A direct bolt on stock replacement wheel would just be "A Good Thing(tm)" I think. I cannot imagine people not jumping on this as long as the cost is not prohibitive.

Ira

Kurt K
02-25-2009, 01:06 PM
I'm still wanting a 17" front runner, which doesn't appear to be in the works yet.

XxSlowpokexX
02-27-2009, 02:39 AM
ohh the revolver looks nniicceeyy niiceeeeee..No rears?

seawalkersee
02-27-2009, 12:32 PM
I would be down for the Rage....now, is that $300 a wheel or pair:D

Guess I better start savin my pennies.

SWS

Kurt K
02-27-2009, 02:27 PM
ohh the revolver looks nniicceeyy niiceeeeee..No rears?
I was thinking revolver too, but I might have to change my mind now :p

Ira R.
02-27-2009, 04:30 PM
I was thinking revolver too, but I might have to change my mind now :p

I guess I'm just old fashion. I like the Solid look all around.

Ira

392Bird
02-27-2009, 07:59 PM
I will want to order a set as soon as the details are worked out, and fit verified.

ZackG
03-14-2009, 06:55 PM
anything new on these?

cudaz101
03-25-2009, 05:36 AM
Latest is that the centers are machined. So they are putting the test package together. I should see them by the end of this week or the beginning of next. (Crossing Fingers)

Thanks for your patiance. Once my test fit phase is done this should go relatively quick.

Brad

cudaz101
04-03-2009, 02:48 AM
Received the test wheels. They look great. More info to come.

Thanks for your patience.

Brad

super red91
04-03-2009, 06:50 PM
We need pics ;)...I know it doesn't matter but it will excite people

cudaz101
04-04-2009, 02:59 AM
Going to try and get the test fit done Saturday so will take some photos.

Very quality piece.

Thanks

Brad

CMac89
04-05-2009, 10:40 AM
The Midnight Holeshot is how you do it.

Are there any more options for black wheels? If so, which ones?

super red91
04-05-2009, 11:35 AM
I believe you can get any wheel anodized, I was considering just getting the center black but still haven't heard how much this costs.

super red91
04-09-2009, 02:38 PM
Updates, pics, pricing?

cudaz101
04-10-2009, 04:36 AM
Im waiting on a few build answers before I can answer any of those questions bro. Im trying to get the wheels built with the required spacers welded. I have not gotten any confirmation as of yet. This could effect price.

Thanks for your patiance.

Brad

super red91
04-22-2009, 08:44 PM
Anything?...I'm getting very anxious to go to the track :)

cudaz101
04-23-2009, 12:57 AM
Yea...heh...Sorry, I am getting anxious as well. I have not heard anything from them. I will make a call...These guys build stuff for NASA...I dont see the big decision making issue here...lol

please stay tuned. =)

Brad

super red91
05-13-2009, 10:39 PM
Considering just buying a set of slicks and mounting them on the stock wheels again :confused:

Anything at all???

cudaz101
05-14-2009, 12:29 AM
Sorry man....There is little I can do to speed things up...heh

Do what ya gotta do.

neverfastenough
05-14-2009, 10:43 PM
Considering just buying a set of slicks and mounting them on the stock wheels again :confused:

Anything at all???

I got a nice set of hoosiers ill sell ya for 200bux just send me some bare wheels:p

Toms-SC
06-18-2009, 01:34 PM
Bump-a-roo

Kurt K
08-11-2009, 10:39 PM
another bump

automaniak22
08-12-2009, 01:47 PM
bump bump.... humpty dumpty lol

Kurt K
08-12-2009, 01:53 PM
bump bump.... humpty dumpty lol

I don't think a daily bump is going to speed things up, but I figured after almost two months, it was time.

super red91
08-12-2009, 03:46 PM
I gave up on this months and months ago :(.......

392Bird
09-10-2009, 07:54 AM
Any news on this?

cudaz101
09-10-2009, 08:36 AM
Well I finally have some wheels coming with the correct spacing applied to them. They didnt want to weld the spacers on so they placed counter sunk screws into the wheel attaching the spacer. I like the idea and am excited to see the mock up. Why its taken them this long to get them done for me?? I dont know...I expect them in a few weeks.

Brad

seawalkersee
09-10-2009, 11:48 AM
Which style did we end up with?

SWS

cudaz101
09-10-2009, 12:04 PM
Once we get this all nailed down you can choose from any style they have available.

Brad

Toms-SC
09-11-2009, 08:40 PM
Any size by chance? For example, a 17 x 8? :cool:

cudaz101
09-12-2009, 02:17 AM
Any size by chance? For example, a 17 x 8? :cool:

Tom they offer 15 & 16 sizes...They are going to offer a 17" front at some point. I cant really speculate when that would materialize.

Brad

Toms-SC
09-12-2009, 12:31 PM
Tom they offer 15 & 16 sizes...They are going to offer a 17" front at some point. I cant really speculate when that would materialize.

Brad

Thanks Brad :cool:

ScrapSC
09-29-2009, 09:38 AM
So, are we looking at 300 for each wheel or is it 300 for both fronts and 300 for both rear rims?

cudaz101
09-29-2009, 10:13 AM
So, are we looking at 300 for each wheel or is it 300 for both fronts and 300 for both rear rims?

Its going to be ballpark $300ea...Fronts might be in the $200's...Deff not $300 a pair.

The last test wheels arrive the 30th. Im watchin them on UPS.

cudaz101
09-30-2009, 08:35 PM
Well they showed up today...Nice piece

Test fit tonight if I have time.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0632.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0633.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0634.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0635.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0636.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0637.jpg

XxSlowpokexX
09-30-2009, 09:54 PM
sweeeeettttttt

fastsc92
10-01-2009, 11:36 AM
glad to see some progress on these.:D

I don't want to sound like an arse, but if this wheel is using a bolt-on spacer, why can't we do a similar set-up with a much cheaper Weld or Jeg's Pro-star style rim? Seems like it would be easy and relatively cheap to modify those rims for a bolt-on style spacer, which has all the hub-centricity and proper bolt pattern in it. Perhaps just using a shank-style lug nut would be all that's needed.

CMac89
10-01-2009, 12:53 PM
Excuse my rudeness....

392Bird
10-01-2009, 01:08 PM
The Holeshot wheels are 9 inch wide, will clear the brake calipers, and with enough BS even with the spacers to fit inside the fenders. None of the other wheels will do that.

With the 9 inch width, you can fit some serious runner on them, and not have them hanging out.

Kurt K
10-01-2009, 02:24 PM
The Holeshot wheels are 9 inch wide, will clear the brake calipers, and with enough BS even with the spacers to fit inside the fenders. None of the other wheels will do that.

With the 9 inch width, you can fit some serious runner on them, and not have them hanging out.
15x9 will clear the upper control arm and still tuck? What backspacing?

cudaz101
10-01-2009, 06:38 PM
OK so if you think you can cobble up something to work on the cheep, get it past inspection and feel good about it then do it man.

CMac....Please unclutter the thread with all your photos. Feel free to start another thread of your own with respect to that product and your ideas. thx...

YES these are Tbird bolt pattern...

Kurt...Im pretty sure you would need to go 16X9 to fit without trimming your control arm.

Brad

fastsc92
10-01-2009, 06:46 PM
OK so if you think you can cobble up something to work on the cheep, get it past inspection and feel good about it then do it man.

Brad

It was just a question that's all...

Please know that what you're doing is a HUGE accomplishment for the T-bird community, and I don't want you to think that I'm putting down all the work you've been doing. I just was stating a question/statement from another angle.

cudaz101
10-01-2009, 07:32 PM
It was just a question that's all...

Please know that what you're doing is a HUGE accomplishment for the T-bird community, and I don't want you to think that I'm putting down all the work you've been doing. I just was stating a question/statement from another angle.

My response was not to you alone bro...I can appreciate saving bux whenever possible so long as it makes sense and Im pleased with the results. Maybe cobble was not the best choice of words...haha

But yea, this has been a very long slow road with 3 differant suppliers, two of which failed to produce what I felt was a option I wanted to put on my floor. Holeshot was fast out of the gate with this development and slow to the finishline...haha

I need to go do some test fitting now...=)

Toms-SC
10-01-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm excited for this, thanks brad!

cudaz101
10-02-2009, 03:46 AM
OK boys.....Lets do this...Test fit went great!! Perfect fit on my 94SC with stock brakes. Read below for the options with respect to width and whats needed to run what wheel...

Stock Brakes early or late car SC or LX, Sport, etc: Fronts are simple.
*Run 15X4 or 16X4 with our spec'd out attached spacer.

*The rears 15X8 with out spec'd spacer leaves plenty of room inside and out with respect to tire and wheel clearance.

*If you want to run a 15X9 you can BUT you will have to trim the rear control arm of about .50" of material to clear the barrel with nothing else to do.
*A 16X8 or 9 will clear fine without the trimming with the same spacer specs of the 15" option.

Big Brake guys...Im still not comfortable building anything until I talk it over with Holeshot one last time. Im pretty sure Big Brake guys will use a lil more spacer in a 15X4 or 16X4 front. Not a big deal at all...I just want to be sure its right. The rears I believe can be 15's or 16's as well with possibly the same spacer spec'd for the stock brakes. If you want to run a 9" wheel you will still have to trip the control arms if you use the 15's.

Hit me up one last time if you want a set RIGHT NOW. If you are doing it later on then pls dont bother PM'ing me right now. Once I have a hard list then I can let ya know what they are going to cost as a group. If you know someone that wants a set pls tell them to hit me up. Go to http://www.holeshotwheels.com and pick out your style, size and colors. Anodizing is $50per wheel unless I can squeeze a discount on that service as well as a group deal. Wheel price will boil down to the amount of peeps ordering. Im gonna give it 3 weeks tops before I close this up.

I will post up photos once I get my picture host issues taken care of...What a pain in the azz...My old host zoto.com is going out of business so I used a freebie and bandwidth is maxed now...If anyone can host the photos for me I will send them to ya.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Brad

fastsc92
10-02-2009, 08:47 AM
I can host pics if you want, fastsc92@comcast.net

cudaz101
10-03-2009, 12:07 AM
Thanks bro...I got hooked up for now. =) THANKS MIKE!!!

So....Test fit photos are below.

The Rears have 8/32 or .25" of clearance with the calipar bracket.

The fronts have 3/32" or .09375" of clearance with the calipar bracket.

Have a look.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0638.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0640.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0641.jpg
Trim that control arm a bit and a 15X9 will go right in there.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0642.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0643.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/BradsWheels/DSCN0644.jpg

fastsc92
10-03-2009, 09:30 AM
Is it possible to get clear pictures of how they sit in the wheel wells? Preferably shots from the front and rear of the car and maybe a side shot or two? Thanks!

Toms-SC
10-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Well I guess I'll be the one to ask....

Can you get this in mustang bolt pattern ?

Thanks brad

cudaz101
10-03-2009, 06:54 PM
Well I guess I'll be the one to ask....

Can you get this in mustang bolt pattern ?

Thanks brad

YES...Even a Dual pattern for Mustang/Tbird or any other combination in 5-hole.

Sxar
10-19-2009, 03:07 PM
This is pretty close to three weeks and Brad mentioned he has only heard back from a couple people willing to go in on the GP. There is still time if you have just forgotten (like myself).

For those who were interested but are passing, can you share why?

Matt

XR7 Dave
10-19-2009, 05:32 PM
I might be tempted.... based on the # of interested parties +1, what would the target price be?

Super XR7
10-19-2009, 07:00 PM
this is on my list - pending details - add me in the GP.

Mike

Ira R.
10-19-2009, 11:16 PM
irrelevant comment deleted....

SCrazy
10-20-2009, 02:57 PM
Any idea on prices??.....I might have to get them shipped to work in order to avoid divorce court.

Sxar
10-21-2009, 01:51 PM
If you are interested, I would say PM Brad with the questions. Pricing depends on the size you are looking at.

XR7 Dave
10-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Any idea on prices??.....I might have to get them shipped to work in order to avoid divorce court.

This is my general issue also. My wife wouldn't mind so much if my car actually ran......:rolleyes:

neverfastenough
10-21-2009, 01:59 PM
This is my general issue also. My wife wouldn't mind so much if my car actually ran......:rolleyes:

Dave ship them to my house, I wont mind. Brad way to go on these, If I wasnt so busy breaking stuff Id be in for a set.

CMac89
10-21-2009, 04:55 PM
Then just hope she doesn't read this thread!

I may be in for a set.

Super XR7
10-21-2009, 07:34 PM
are 17's an option to clear big front brakes?
mike

cudaz101
10-22-2009, 12:47 AM
are 17's an option to clear big front brakes?
mike

17's are currently not an option. But you dont need 17's to clear big brakes either. Regarless what you run, be it 15,16,17 you still have to use a spacer to clear the calipar bracket. There is no mounting pad built up on a 3pc drag wheel so you have to use a spacer. No big surprise there...

Brad

seawalkersee
10-22-2009, 02:48 AM
Is the spacer not welded to the wheel?

SWS

cudaz101
10-22-2009, 02:52 AM
Is the spacer not welded to the wheel?

SWS

No the Holeshot has threads machined into the center to attach the billet/hubcentric spacer. Makes alot more sense than welding IMO.

Brad

cudaz101
10-22-2009, 02:56 AM
Im going to push this for another week...I was not trying to rush people. More trying to keep it from being drug on for several weeks.

Ive replied to some posts in the thread via PM...

Thanks

Brad

SCrazy
10-22-2009, 03:00 PM
I'm 99.99% sure I'm in for a set of rears but I'm on the fence about 15" or 16". I'm leaning 16"x9" because I have 27"x16" tires and won't need to mod the control arm for the 9" width but checking the Mickey Thompson site it looks like they don't make the 27" tire any more for a 16" wheel.....

Oh the choices.............

Super XR7
11-03-2009, 06:57 AM
What is the status of this group buy?

Mike

cudaz101
11-03-2009, 01:41 PM
Shipped the test wheels to David Dalke to put them up to some big brakes. He will bring the results here soon Im sure.

Brad

XR7 Dave
11-03-2009, 03:01 PM
I have the wheels here and have done some fitting.

Rear: On stock brakes that have been relocated out 3/4" for the Cobra rear rotors, the thing that hit the 15 x 8 barrel was the banjo bolt on the caliper. This could be alleviated with a little grinding. If you have a SS line kit you may not have any issues. Keep in mind this was using early style calipers. Late model calipers are slightly different and may alter fitment. 15 x 9 wheels will not fit Cobra rear brakes.

IMO, a 16" wheel should fit fine on the rear in both 16 x 8 and 16 x 9.

Front: With Cobra brakes the 15" simply do not fit without a 1" spacer. The center disk drops too low and hits the front leading edge of the caliper. The overall diameter is not an issue because the entire rotor sits outside the wheel when fitted with a 1" spacer.

I will take some pictures as soon as I have tires mounted (should be by tomorrow).

I really wish I had a set of 16's here as I think those will fit fine but cannot verify.

Super XR7
11-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Updates?

Mike

XR7 Dave
11-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Fitment on the 15's with the Cobra brakes is marginal in the rear. You'll probably have to do some grinding to make it work, depending on what brake lines you have and which calipers you use. 16's would be no problem.

On the front the 15's require a 1" spacer to fit in front of the Cobra brakes. This causes the wheels and tires to stick out quite a bit. I have talked with Hole Shot about their 16's but there is a difference in the barrel design such that I need a 16" wheel here to fit from. They sent me the 16" barrels, but I am waiting on Brad to send me the center discs so that I can assemble a 16" wheel and check fitment.

The 15x8's fit nicely on the rear and I'm pretty sure the 16x9's will be sweet, just not sure about the fronts right now.

pro street rich
11-18-2009, 10:05 PM
If you look there are NO 16" slicks on the market anymore. I looked a couple of months ago and could not find ANY SLICKS that are still being sold. Sure there were some used ones on a few sites, but no new ones. If you are looking for running at the track then you might want to think 15's Just some food to chew on.....Rich

fastsc92
11-18-2009, 11:51 PM
If you look there are NO 16" slicks on the market anymore. I looked a couple of months ago and could not find ANY SLICKS that are still being sold. Sure there were some used ones on a few sites, but no new ones. If you are looking for running at the track then you might want to think 15's Just some food to chew on.....Rich

I don't believe that is true. A simple search on jegs and summit founds many 16" tires that would fit those rims....

XR7 Dave
11-19-2009, 09:01 AM
If you look at sizes, ones that would fit our cars are limited. ET Streets are still available as are some other DOT brands, but the only real slick that is in a size we could use are the Hoosier 28 x 10 x 16. This is a big tire that if tucked properly could fit inside our fenderwells (with a rolled lip). As for the fronts, M&H makes a 26 x 5 x 16 so that would work in front. Not many choices there either. It would be best if they made a 17" front wheel but currently they do not. They told me that they are looking into it....

pro street rich
11-19-2009, 09:25 AM
I don't believe that is true. A simple search on jegs and summit founds many 16" tires that would fit those rims....

There are no 16" slicks that fit our cars without modding the wheel wells. This is what I said. Sure you can get street tires, but no true slicks. reread what I posted before and you will have to agree. As for the fronts, yes there are some tires that will work.....Rich

fastsc92
11-19-2009, 12:44 PM
There are no 16" slicks that fit our cars without modding the wheel wells. This is what I said. Sure you can get street tires, but no true slicks. reread what I posted before and you will have to agree. As for the fronts, yes there are some tires that will work.....Rich

I guess I was looking more at DOT tires like the ET streets and QT Pros. I assumed one could get a 28" tall tire under there. I've never tried however.

XR7 Dave
11-19-2009, 06:58 PM
Hey Rich, I guess this must be my imagination then huh? :eek::D

16" Slicks. (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=678999&postcount=1)

Toms-SC
11-19-2009, 07:00 PM
Hey Rich, I guess this must be my imagination then huh? :eek::D

16" Slicks. (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=678999&postcount=1)

Man those look hot.

fastsc92
11-19-2009, 07:01 PM
Hey Rich, I guess this must be my imagination then huh? :eek::D

16" Slicks. (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=678999&postcount=1)

What size are those Dave?

pro street rich
11-19-2009, 07:02 PM
If you look at sizes, ones that would fit our cars are limited. ET Streets are still available as are some other DOT brands, but the only real slick that is in a size we could use are the Hoosier 28 x 10 x 16. This is a big tire that if tucked properly could fit inside our fenderwells (with a rolled lip). As for the fronts, M&H makes a 26 x 5 x 16 so that would work in front. Not many choices there either. It would be best if they made a 17" front wheel but currently they do not. They told me that they are looking into it....

You tell me, you said it and what else there to say... You said with "rolled lip" not me.... as the saying goes "ANYTHING" will fit with a hammer and a "fire wrench" which one did you need to use???

XR7 Dave
11-19-2009, 08:32 PM
The whole point of the 16" wheels is to permit the use of big brakes and slicks on the same vehicle. If you have stock rear brakes, then by all means get the 15's. But most people here who have $300/wheel to spend on drag wheels probably also have big brakes, hence the interest in 16" wheels. These wheels are also offered in 15" so if that's what you need, no problem. I was merely pointing out that there are REAL 16" slicks available and they do fit (with less massaging than it takes to put a 514 under the stock hood. :eek: Rolling the fender is something that you need to do if you have 275/40/18's or bigger tires anyway, so again, for a lot of people rolling the lip is all part of the game. I rolled mine over 10 years ago and I'm not even a drag racer. I did it so my street tires would fit without rubbing when I have 3 people in the back of the car + luggage.

I did not use the blue tip wrench, just a little massaging with a 2lb hammer. You can't see any of it from the outside and I did not ruin the paint in the process. For those who aren't that serious, the 10.5" ET Streets should suffice.

cordb
11-28-2009, 06:18 PM
M&H makes some 26/11.5-16LT which is a cheater slick and some 12.0/26.0-16 which are actual drag slicks. hopefully this will help some peoples decisions

Toms-SC
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
For those that have been waiting out for the 17" front runners things are not looking that great.

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We are currently working on 17 x 4 or 3.5 but I don't beleive it will be
soon. Hopefully later this year. I will keep you posted for any new
information.

Marlene
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BLOWN38
01-12-2010, 01:45 PM
For those that have been waiting out for the 17" front runners things are not looking that great.

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We are currently working on 17 x 4 or 3.5 but I don't beleive it will be
soon. Hopefully later this year. I will keep you posted for any new
information.

Marlene
----

Yeah I sent and email back in dec. and got the same reply.

XR7 Dave
03-02-2010, 11:34 PM
Time to revive this post. Test fitting is finally complete on these wheels with the 13" Cobra brakes upgrade, front and rear.

First off, if you have stock brakes, the 15x4 front wheel fits perfectly, and the 15x8 rear also fits perfectly.

If you have big brakes in front, the 15x4's require a 1" spacer which sets the wheels out a little wide and will require longer studs. However, the 16x4's fit fine over the Cobra front brakes. The drawback is that while the 15x4's have a 1" front barrel and 3" rear, the 16's are 2" and 2". This means that the way the wheels sit is the same on both the 15 and 16 versions. The important difference is that the 16's will bolt on without spacers and without longer wheel studs being required.

On the rear with big brakes, the 15x8's fit fine, but the 15x9's run into the banjo bolt on the calipers so that's a no-go. The 16" rears clear the banjo bolt, but the 9" barrel come in contact with the E-brake cable. If you tie the E-brake cable out of the way you can run the 16x9's. If you remove the E-brake cable entirely I believe you can run 16x10's, which is what I plan to do. For the Hoosier 28 x 10 slicks, you could run them on an 8"wheel but that is not ideal, they really should go on a 9 or 10" wheel.

The 17" fronts are coming but it may not be this season so choices will have to be made. If people are interested, we need to voice up so that an initial buy can be generated and the price points previously mentioned can be hit. There have been no price increases this year so the posted prices do still hold.

There you have it! :)

Kurt K
03-03-2010, 12:08 AM
If you tie the E-brake cable out of the way you can run the 16x9's. If you remove the E-brake cable entirely I believe you can run 16x10's, which is what I plan to do.

Interesting about removing the E-brake cable....just not sure if I could sacrafice that myself though.

XR7 Dave
03-03-2010, 08:02 AM
Interesting about removing the E-brake cable....just not sure if I could sacrafice that myself though.

Keep in mind that this is necessary on any 15 or 16" wheel regardless of manufacturer when using larger brakes. The large brakes are fine with a 15x8, just not anything wider. With stock rear brakes a 16 x 9 isn't an issue. I used to run that size on my XR7 years ago.

Kurt K
03-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Keep in mind that this is necessary on any 15 or 16" wheel regardless of manufacturer when using larger brakes. The large brakes are fine with a 15x8, just not anything wider. With stock rear brakes a 16 x 9 isn't an issue. I used to run that size on my XR7 years ago.
I missed the part about big brakes, but that is something that I am wanting to do.

BLOWN38
03-03-2010, 11:40 AM
They can't make the 16" front with a 1" out and 3" in? And if so would that then hit the big brakes?

Looks like I maybe going back to small brakes in the front for the mean time till the 17's come out.

SCrazy
03-03-2010, 12:10 PM
Hell ya.....I've been waiting for this one.

I'm thinking 16x9 for me.

Mike8675309
03-03-2010, 12:33 PM
PM sent to Brad

Ira R.
03-03-2010, 01:56 PM
15x8's just bolt right on huh? I wonder what the tire options are at that size.

Ira

XR7 Dave
03-03-2010, 04:27 PM
On a 15x8 the ideal size is a 9" tread slick. A 10" will go on, but you'll lose footprint and handling to where there isn't a benefit. However, 10" slicks are much more common so I guess when you weigh the pros and cons you decide.

The 17" front will be a one piece forging so don't anticipate upgrading your 16" modulars. I thought that would be the best thing but they say no go at this time. The 17's are being designed for the Mustang guys so they should be a bolt on for us as well but don't hold your breath.

The 16" barrel is only available in a minimum 2" depth so there is no way around that. I think they look ok on there. They sit just a little wider than the 03 Cobra wheels on an SC. Maybe one solution would be to put a 3" barrel on the back of the wheel so that the tire gets pulled in more. The barrels are SUPER light so don't worry about adding weight - you're talking less than 1lb. I just thought of this. :rolleyes:

I can't take pictures of the car setting on the 16" wheel because I don't have a tire to go on there, and I can't post a picture of the 15's because I can't bolt it on either due to the studs not being long enough for the 1" spacers. If someone would post up some pictures of SC's with skinnies I could tell you how it compares I guess.

XR7 Dave
03-03-2010, 05:33 PM
To give you an idea of the clearance these 16" barrels have, you can actually put a 16x8 on the FRONT over the 13" brakes and have about 1/8-3/16" clearance to the outermost part of the caliper.

I'm digging a 16x6 for the front.

Here is a picture of David's Bogarts. These stick out a little more but it's not crazy.

David's Bogarts. (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31714&d=1206808335)

392Bird
03-08-2010, 07:39 PM
On the rear with big brakes, the 15x8's fit fine, but the 15x9's run into the banjo bolt on the calipers so that's a no-go.


Dave, did the 15x9 wheel get tested on stock rear disk?

XR7 Dave
03-08-2010, 09:51 PM
I did not check that for some reason. I think that the only real problem will be the Ebrake cable. I have not sent the parts back yet so I'll test fit a 15x9 here in a couple days.

Brad, did you ever post a projected cost?

SCrazy
03-09-2010, 09:57 AM
Brad....are you taking orders or is this still in developement.

cudaz101
03-26-2010, 09:07 AM
Sorry Brian I didnt get the note on the thread reply.

YES!! Lets get this thing going or I can just build you whatever you want at MSRP. You have all the prices.


Brad

cudaz101
03-26-2010, 09:12 AM
I did not check that for some reason. I think that the only real problem will be the Ebrake cable. I have not sent the parts back yet so I'll test fit a 15x9 here in a couple days.

Brad, did you ever post a projected cost?

Again, sorry David I didnt get the note on the thread reply.

Anyways, everyone interested that emailed me or PM'd me got the GP and compared MSRP price list.

Brad

Super XR7
03-26-2010, 02:41 PM
Brad, can you post the GP prices? I did not get a list; maybe I didn't email you.

Mike

Ira R.
03-26-2010, 04:41 PM
[QUOTE=XR7 Dave;870272]I did not check that for some reason. I think that the only real problem will be the Ebrake cable. I have not sent the parts back yet so I'll test fit a 15x9 here in a couple days.

QUOTE]

Any update??

Ira

cudaz101
03-26-2010, 06:25 PM
Brad, can you post the GP prices? I did not get a list; maybe I didn't email you.

Mike


Size** Price ** MSRP
15X4 $290ea $315
15X8 $350ea $382
15X9 $360ea $387

16X4 $365ea $391
16X8 $395ea $432
16X9 $415ea $450

**Anodizing is $50per wheel**
I will round up the cost of the spacers. Im guessing they are like $25ea for the hubcentric billet spacer to attach to the wheel.

Ira R.
04-03-2010, 12:08 PM
Hell ya.....I've been waiting for this one.

I'm thinking 16x9 for me.

Yea, that's just about perfect for a set of ET Streets. Did I miss this or did it turn out that these wheels will fit right on without any modification?

Ira

XR7 Dave
04-03-2010, 01:11 PM
[QUOTE=XR7 Dave;870272]I did not check that for some reason. I think that the only real problem will be the Ebrake cable. I have not sent the parts back yet so I'll test fit a 15x9 here in a couple days.

QUOTE]

Any update??

Ira

I did fit the 15x9 wheel on a car with stock brakes. Here is the issue.

The 15" barrel does not clear the upper control arm. You could either lightly modify the upper control arm for clearance or you could simply put an additional spacer behind the wheel but then I think you'd need to have rolled your fender wells because they might touch. The 15x8 wheel I received for fitment had a 3/4" spacer attached to it as part of the wheel. This is how the wheels are normally made. On the 15x9 wheel that 3/4" spacer would have to be increased to about 15/16" or maybe 1" to get comfortable clearance to the control arm, so an additional 1/4" would be a pretty reasonable assumption. The other thing is that they rub on the brake cables so those would have to be tied back. All this is entirely doable, but you have to willing to make it happen.

Now 15x8's are ideal for a 8-9" slick (and this includes 10.5" ET Streets). If you want to run a 10" slick (11.50 ET Street) then expect to make some allowances. They will not simply bolt on to a stock SC, but they ARE doable if you want to make the slight mods to make them work.

The 16x9's fit much better but then tire choice is very limited.

XR7 Dave
04-03-2010, 01:13 PM
Yea, that's just about perfect for a set of ET Streets. Did I miss this or did it turn out that these wheels will fit right on without any modification?

Ira

Keep in mind that the 8" wheel and matching tire is the ideal "Bolt on" solution. Big wheels mean big tires which means you need to be prepared for some massaging here and there. I was unable to mount tires on the rims to verify just how a 10" wide slick would or would not clear the fenderwells etc.

Ira R.
04-03-2010, 02:22 PM
[QUOTE=Ira R.;873983]

I did fit the 15x9 wheel on a car with stock brakes. Here is the issue.

The 15" barrel does not clear the upper control arm. You could either lightly modify the upper control arm for clearance or you could simply put an additional spacer behind the wheel but then I think you'd need to have rolled your fender wells because they might touch. The 15x8 wheel I received for fitment had a 3/4" spacer attached to it as part of the wheel. This is how the wheels are normally made. On the 15x9 wheel that 3/4" spacer would have to be increased to about 15/16" or maybe 1" to get comfortable clearance to the control arm, so an additional 1/4" would be a pretty reasonable assumption. The other thing is that they rub on the brake cables so those would have to be tied back. All this is entirely doable, but you have to willing to make it happen.

Now 15x8's are ideal for a 8-9" slick (and this includes 10.5" ET Streets). If you want to run a 10" slick (11.50 ET Street) then expect to make some allowances. They will not simply bolt on to a stock SC, but they ARE doable if you want to make the slight mods to make them work.

The 16x9's fit much better but then tire choice is very limited.

I thought a footprint of more then 9 inches was just a waste of rubber? That's why I was thinking that the 16x8 would be a good choice if you were to run the 26x10.5-16 ET Streets. As far as a drag slick is concerned then I thought the 15x8 would give you more options.

I'm trying not to have to roll the fenders just to use a set of tires a couple of times a year and also change the look of the street tires.

Ira

XR7 Dave
04-03-2010, 04:43 PM
[QUOTE=XR7 Dave;875255]

I thought a footprint of more then 9 inches was just a waste of rubber? That's why I was thinking that the 16x8 would be a good choice if you were to run the 26x10.5-16 ET Streets. As far as a drag slick is concerned then I thought the 15x8 would give you more options.

I'm trying not to have to roll the fenders just to use a set of tires a couple of times a year and also change the look of the street tires.

Ira

I don't know what you are talking about 9" footprint being a waste... I used to spin the ever living bejeebers out of mine. I called Hoosier and they told me I had too much power for the tires.

But, the problem is that the wheel wells just don't give you a lot of room for a bolt on, no hassle drag tire. You had asked about 9" wheel fitment so I gave my observations on that. An 8" wheel and matching tire will have no trouble as a bolt on. I tried a 10" tire on the 8" wheel and while it still bolted on it looked to me like it might rub on launch because the rubber did hang past the wheel well a little. This would be especially true if you went taller than 26".

If you are looking at a 10.50 ET Street (this is an 8.8" tire) then you won't have any problems on an 8" wheel.

I'll be running at 28x10 slick but I expect to have to make a few accommodations.

BLOWN38
04-05-2010, 01:02 AM
How much of the control arm do you have to shave, will it affect strength?

XR7 Dave
04-05-2010, 07:27 AM
How much of the control arm do you have to shave, will it affect strength?

I think you could get clearance with a grinder and I don't think it would affect strength. Probably about 1/4" off the top leading edge. Maybe less.

Sxar
04-09-2010, 11:31 AM
So, how many people would we need for a group buy? I would still be in for a set.

BLOWN38
07-15-2010, 04:57 PM
Did anyone ever get any of these wheels?

Sxar
07-19-2010, 02:23 PM
As I understood it, there was never enough people committed to do a group buy. I believe Brad can get the wheels though.

cudaz101
07-20-2010, 05:20 PM
Thats right...Not enough ppl to get the GP done. Or not enough people in the same time frame to make it happen. We can do direct orders for anyone at the listed MSRP prices.

Brad

CMac89
08-08-2010, 08:50 PM
........................................

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 01:08 PM
The group purchase turned into a group of one.....me.

Got my 16x9 wheels today.....looking forward to getting them installed.

This will be one less excuse on the checklist for catching Kurt at the Shootout.

Thanks Brad

BLOWN38
08-09-2010, 01:11 PM
How long did it take to get them, Brian?

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 01:23 PM
Just over two weeks...ordered on 7/22 and got them today.



How long did it take to get them, Brian?

Super XR7
08-09-2010, 01:50 PM
Just over two weeks...ordered on 7/22 and got them today.

post pics when you get them on .

Mike

Ira R.
08-09-2010, 02:39 PM
What size tires you going to run?

Ira

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 02:57 PM
10.5" ET Streets

Ira R.
08-09-2010, 03:42 PM
10.5" ET Streets

Look forward to seeing them. They've been on my Xmas list for a while now and since I am going to need new tires for next season maybe this is the year to move them to the top.


Ira

Kurt K
08-09-2010, 04:12 PM
Just over two weeks...ordered on 7/22 and got them today.
Looks like I need to ignore this heat and get to working on my car.

Kurt K
08-09-2010, 04:13 PM
The group purchase turned into a group of one.....me.

Got my 16x9 wheels today.....looking forward to getting them installed.

This will be one less excuse on the checklist for catching Kurt at the Shootout.

Thanks Brad

Ha, I missed this post. Do you mind measuring the exact backspacing that you ended up with?

David Neibert
08-09-2010, 04:33 PM
10.5" ET Streets

Brian,

What diameter ?

David

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 04:38 PM
I currently have 27" that I'll be transfering


Brian,

What diameter ?

David

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 04:40 PM
Backspace is 6-7/8" to the wheel but I have a 1/2" thick hubcentric spacer bolted to the wheel so final backspace is 6-3/8".



Ha, I missed this post. Do you mind measuring the exact backspacing that you ended up with?

CMac89
08-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Backspace is 6-7/8" to the wheel but I have a 1/2" thick hubcentric spacer bolted to the wheel so final backspace is 6-3/8".

What brakes are you using?

SCrazy
08-09-2010, 07:55 PM
Stock.....for now


What brakes are you using?

CMac89
08-09-2010, 10:20 PM
Stock.....for now

What backspacing did you use for the front?

SCrazy
08-10-2010, 09:49 AM
I only got rears....I use the aluminum spare wheels on the front.




What backspacing did you use for the front?

CMac89
08-19-2010, 09:12 AM
I never saw anybody mention anything about the one piece wheels being available. Those are the ones that I want to get. If you look at their wheels, you'll notice the first pictures are their one piece wheels.

What is the price and availability of these wheels?

XR7 Dave
08-19-2010, 09:27 AM
The don't make one piece wheels that will clear Cobra brakes, which is what we were looking for. As for the smaller 15's - not sure on that one. They might have some available.

CMac89
08-19-2010, 10:46 PM
Sounds like they'll work with the stock brakes since I don't plan on running anything other than that. I suppose I can call them about the pricing.

What lugs are people running with these wheels? The stock ones would be triflin'!!!

SCrazy
08-23-2010, 08:54 AM
I've mounted one of my wheels to check everything out but the pics are on my camera at home. All the clearances were good with stock breaks. The e-brake cable rubbed but we knew about that.

I purchased lugs from Brad with the wheels, stock lugs would definately not work.

Getting tire mounted in the next day or so.

Kurt K
08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
I purchased lugs from Brad with the wheels, stock lugs would definately not work.

Longer lugs, I assume? Are they the same thread as the Thunderbird lugs, or did you have to go with a different thread? Also, did they clear the center of the hub without modification?

SCrazy
08-23-2010, 10:41 AM
Longer lugs, I assume? Are they the same thread as the Thunderbird lugs, or did you have to go with a different thread? Also, did they clear the center of the hub without modification?

Stock studs and thread pattern. Lugs have a straight collar on them so they extend a little ways into the wheel. They are very similar to this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCG-60129/ but I'm not sure if these are the exact ones. Brad??

No issues with hub clearance.

David Neibert
08-24-2010, 04:20 PM
Brian,

When are you going to post some pics of the new wheels ?

David

SCrazy
08-24-2010, 05:00 PM
Need to tie a string around my finger to remember and get the pic off my daughters camera at home. Tires get mounted on Thursday.

cudaz101
08-25-2010, 06:52 AM
Stock studs and thread pattern. Lugs have a straight collar on them so they extend a little ways into the wheel. They are very similar to this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCG-60129/ but I'm not sure if these are the exact ones. Brad??

No issues with hub clearance.

Pretty sure they are a Shank lug w/washer. The length of the shank can be longer in conjunction with the spacer being used. I dont have any in my possesion.

brad

SCrazy
08-25-2010, 08:25 AM
Here are the promissed pics....funny how small the wheel looks on the car with no tire. No clearance issues anywhere, tucked up nicely under the car.

SCrazy
08-29-2010, 08:52 PM
All mounted up and fitting nicely.........

BLOWN38
08-29-2010, 09:48 PM
Do those allen caps come out of the nuts so that longer studs will come thru the ends?

Wheels look great!:cool:

Toms-SC
08-29-2010, 10:58 PM
Looks great. Nice job on the fitment!

SCrazy
08-30-2010, 08:28 AM
Do those allen caps come out of the nuts so that longer studs will come thru the ends?

Wheels look great!:cool:

Yup...they are just plastic caps in the center of the lugs.

David Neibert
08-30-2010, 10:32 AM
Brian,

The new wheels look great. Are you still using stock length wheel studs ?

David

Kurt K
08-30-2010, 01:02 PM
Brian,

The new wheels look great. Are you still using stock length wheel studs ?

David
From earlier in this thread :rolleyes:

Stock studs and thread pattern. Lugs have a straight collar on them so they extend a little ways into the wheel. They are very similar to this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCG-60129/ but I'm not sure if these are the exact ones. Brad??

No issues with hub clearance.

leenco12
09-07-2010, 09:54 PM
Any idea on style and pricing?

If I remember correctly, you can choose any holeshot style and the price is not affected.


Preliminary pricing was upper $300 for the rears and lower $300 for the fronts. This may have changed though recently (for the better or worse) and I'm not sure how much the pricing is affected for a group rate.
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SCrazy
09-08-2010, 01:06 PM
You should really contact Brad about the pricing since everything on these posts are group purchase pricing.