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91Birdv8SC
09-23-2002, 12:08 PM
Hello all from canada

Just a quick question about a new air intake mod called the tornado, now i have been told on our mn12's we will get a HP incress of about 15-20 with the SC 3.8 & a milage incress of about 15% but i'm not to sure about that info anyone out there use this item if so let me know at chwillis@cogeco.ca as i'am about to buy just to test

thanks

PS here is the site for this mob
http://www.tornadoair.com/

sabre81
09-23-2002, 12:15 PM
i hear its junk :)

JAFO
09-23-2002, 12:38 PM
Snake oil. Been around for a while, never heard of anyone saying otherwise. You could probably make your own with a coke can and a pair of tin snips. I have heard of cases where they'll send you some free blinker fluid with purchase though. ;)

joenintiesc
09-23-2002, 12:39 PM
There have been a few recent discussions on this product and the overall response was that it won't work on an SC. There is no way that the airflow from the Tornado can outflow what the blower produces. Use the cash you would have spent on this and buy a tried and true mod instead...

91Birdv8SC
09-23-2002, 01:21 PM
Junk LOL its settled

but my just buy one for my f150 just to try :)

TbirdSCFan
09-23-2002, 06:07 PM
Sort of like the 100MPG super carbeuretor with water injection.. snake oil. And just to debunk the popular theory that the device exists, but is being supressed by big oil.... why don't they have it in an underdeveloped country then? I mean, if the USA can't find Bin Laden, how is a group of competitive oil companies supposed to squash such a thing throughout the planet?
:confused:

Deep6
09-23-2002, 06:42 PM
The Pouge Cold Vapor Carburetor never existed and that it's official US patent is fake?

bcr2886
09-24-2002, 03:27 AM
Lets say that even on a n/a car that the swirl effect worked even a little. what little effect it would bring would be destroyed when it hit the sc.

AsScLoWn
09-24-2002, 04:04 AM
maybe on a carb car it COULD work since its directly on top, some cylinder heads are designed for swirl(but thats inside the head):eek:

hytorksc
09-24-2002, 03:12 PM
I think if you placed one before the supercharger (behind the MAF/before the TB), one after the supercharger, one before the IC, one after the IC, then the last one just before the intake manifold in the IC tube this device may work in dramatic fashion. Personally I would not fork out $70 each for five- I would just make them out of sheet brass metal and solder them together. Worthy experiment to see if you could feel any difference in power- can't do any harm to the intake system.

Then again it might just create enough drag to make air flow properties stink. not to mention all the hellacious bends we already have.

joenintiesc
09-24-2002, 03:34 PM
Plus it would add an extra 2-3 pounds of unwanted weight to your engine! :D

fred 4 pt 3
09-24-2002, 03:42 PM
I can see it working on a weenie engine or cutting drag at small airflows. It eliminates some laminar drag by introducing just enough turbulence.

It would be an impediment to a serious machine, though.

TbirdSCFan
09-24-2002, 04:01 PM
If its real and works as stated, how come its not being used somewhere where "supposed" corporate oil muscle can't squash it. I don't believe in conspiracy theory very much myself. If they had that much power, why is a propane engine available?

joenintiesc
09-24-2002, 04:03 PM
Would it have any positive impact on my girlfriend's 1998 Escort SE 4 cylinder SPI SOHC engine with removed air silencer and K&N air filter? (Phew, try saying that fast in one breath!)

Deep6
09-24-2002, 04:53 PM
But I do remember reading about it in detail on the internet on some web page. Try doing a google search.

The propane engine is not a threat to big oil. After all, propane can be extracted from the refining of crude oil.

Turbine engines weren't a threat to big oil either, they could still run on petrolium based products. But their wasn't enough money to develop them. The bottom line with the Pouge, from what I read, was that his patent was bought out and no one can mass produce it. Leaving just small tinkerers with the ability to harness it's properties.

I can't say that it even works as stated, but if no one wants to mass produce it, It goes to make sense that is why no one knows about it. Let's say you had that magic carb on your car and you got 100mpg. Do you think you'd tell others how to build it? Probably not, as the price of fuel would slowly rise since people would be purchasing less and less as demand decreased.



But anyway, a product does exist and it does have a patent number, as for it actually working is a different story.