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m.lee
08-07-2009, 11:13 AM
Hi everybody I have a 1994 SC loaded with every option available in 1994 and have a question no one can seem to answer not even ford.
My battery is dead on my 94 Thunderbird SC and I cannot get into the car.Because of the dead battery the keyless entry button will not work and the combination lock below the door handle will not work (no power).The problem is the key usually used to unlock the door also will not unlock the car,is the key lock also electric?I have noticed when I have used the key before you turn the key in the lock and after a second the lock pops up,like it is electric.It's hard to explain but any other car the lock buttons come further up the further you turn the key but not these.Can you tell me ARE MY DOOR KEY LOCKS ELECTRIC ? My local dealer Wade Ford or the ford website itself does not know.

BTW How much cash did these sell for new at the dealer in 1994. although it's getting to have some problems here and there (hey it;s an older car)I still think it;s one of the coolest designs ford ever came up with for the Thunderbird.

RedSC93
08-07-2009, 11:47 AM
Great to have you here, These cars went for around 30 to 40 in the years they were built. The locks are electric but also can be manually opened with the key. Do you have the trunk key? If so you can go though the trunk and with your car having "every option available" it should have fold down back seats. Not much help but ya never no.

Jerry

old_coot
08-07-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm trying to remember, we have modified the front of our cars so much--but with long enough arms the hood release can be opened from underneath and then a battery charger or jumper cables used---just find another car to look at the workings of the hood latch to see what you need to do...as a last resort remove the latch bolts from down below.....................Dan

the-big-e
08-07-2009, 01:50 PM
Call road side assistance, if you have that as an option.....:rolleyes:

Or you can call a locksmith to come out and unlock you car.....

It should take a competent locksmith under 5 minutes to get your doors unlocked.....:p

I have road side assistance with my cell phone plan......

Best three bucks I spend each month.....

89_Red_Xr7
08-07-2009, 02:00 PM
you should be able to reach up from underneath the front bumper/valence and manually actuate the hood release mechanism. From there you can put a charger on the car and get the electronics back ;)

sinhumane
08-07-2009, 02:11 PM
i'm with the guy on the rear fold down, there is a pull that can be accessed from the trunk area to get into the cabin

slowpoke
08-07-2009, 02:51 PM
to get power without being able to get in, climb under the car to the starter, place a ~~~ power cable to the big wire on the starter and the neg to the frame/ a bolt ext. anything that will ground.

KMT
08-07-2009, 03:09 PM
These cars originally sold for between $21,000 and $27,000 new.

275hptbirdsc
08-07-2009, 03:59 PM
You could always just break the window to get in:D:cool:

m.lee
08-07-2009, 06:44 PM
Thank you for all your help,I have tried to crawl under the front air dam.After I found the cable I gave it a good yank but no go on popping the hood.I can open the trunk and yes my rear seat folds down i just need someone slimmer than myself to crawl in and pop my door.If going through the trunk does not work Slowpoke had a good idea by charging the battery through the starter.

However I still think the key locks are electric,niether my or my wife's car keys will open either door.Actually the service person I spoke to at the dealer said they have talked about this point with the ford rep that comes in every now and then.The rep says no way but the techs at the dealer think the key locks may be electric.
All I can say is I'm stumped why my key locks worked before my battery went dead now none of the ways to get in work.

RedSC93
08-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Thank you for all your help,I have tried to crawl under the front air dam.After I found the cable I gave it a good yank but no go on popping the hood.I can open the trunk and yes my rear seat folds down i just need someone slimmer than myself to crawl in and pop my door.If going through the trunk does not work Slowpoke had a good idea by charging the battery through the starter.

However I still think the key locks are electric,niether my or my wife's car keys will open either door.Actually the service person I spoke to at the dealer said they have talked about this point with the ford rep that comes in every now and then.The rep says no way but the techs at the dealer think the key locks may be electric.
All I can say is I'm stumped why my key locks worked before my battery went dead now none of the ways to get in work.

That's where a neighborhood kid would come in handy.


Today 03:09 PM
KMT These cars originally sold for between $21,000 and $27,000 new.

I have my original Sales window sticker and my car was $33,000


Jerry

slowpoke
08-07-2009, 09:08 PM
That's where a neighborhood kid would come in handy.



I have my original Sales window sticker and my car was $33,000


Jerry

keeping in mind that every state is almost like a different country from each other. they all have different cost of living and tax's, what might be only 21k in one state can easily be 33k in another, if in cal it could be 40k easy.

this also means it might be worth a vacation to shop for your next new car in the cheapest state

RedSC93
08-07-2009, 09:41 PM
keeping in mind that every state is almost like a different country from each other. they all have different cost of living and tax's, what might be only 21k in one state can easily be 33k in another, if in cal it could be 40k easy.

this also means it might be worth a vacation to shop for your next new car in the cheapest state

Soo true :)

Jerry

Mikessupercoupe
08-07-2009, 09:42 PM
A good towman with a lockout kit should be able to open it in less than a minute.

Mike:D

txsc
08-07-2009, 09:51 PM
keeping in mind that every state is almost like a different country from each other. they all have different cost of living and tax's, what might be only 21k in one state can easily be 33k in another, if in cal it could be 40k easy.

this also means it might be worth a vacation to shop for your next new car in the cheapest state

Taxes, registration, etc. may change state-to-state, but OEM sticker price does not. That is uniform across the country. Even the destination charge is level-loaded. That means a customer at the Lorain, OH Ford dealership paid the same transportation charge as the buyer in Dallas, TX, Seattle, WA or anywhere else (in the US).

Can't speak to the 94's, but my 89 stickered for around $23K. I could see a loaded 94 possibly reaching the low $30's, but not much more.

JD

Duffy Floyd
08-07-2009, 10:07 PM
My 95 manual stickered for $24,545. It had some of the available options but not for that year.

89tird
08-07-2009, 10:07 PM
I cant open the door on my 95 with the key either, I have to use keyless entry, the other day I closed the hood by mistake with the battery disconnected and thankfully I have rear fold down, crawled from the trunk and opened the door. not having a working key sucks!

m.lee
08-09-2009, 10:30 AM
I finally got in my car,well OK to tell the truth my fat behind wasnt even going to try.My wife actually crawled in through the fold down back seat and opened the door.
I dont understand why my key will not open the doors and I have noticed I'm not the only one here. I guess the question remains do the key entry locks need power to work.
Now that I'm in, the next step is charge the battery so i can take the car over to my mechanic,my thermostat is shot.On all the older cars I've had I could always do it myself.The T-bird however has more wires,hoses and is in a bad place for me to do it myself.
At this point the car is old enough I should just get rid of it but i like the body style and interior so much i dont want to let it go.It would be cool if I had a lot of cash to fix it up or either the shows "Overhaul" or "Pimp my ride" would do it for me.

Payton
08-09-2009, 11:21 AM
All three SC that I had didn't need power to open the door with the key

XR7 Dave
08-09-2009, 02:34 PM
The locks are not electric. Chances are if you don't use the key lock very often it will be stiff and may not work with the key.

frdlvr30
08-09-2009, 07:53 PM
Door lock actuators are the only thing that is electric. Has nothing to do with the mechanical lock cylinders or the rods going from them to the door lock actuator. Spray some WD-40 in the Key holes and Jiggle the key in the cylinder...

KMT
08-09-2009, 09:18 PM
1990 SC ~ 1995 SC window stickers...

Thinkreferrals
12-09-2009, 03:18 PM
I have the original invoice for my Black 1990 SC with every option available. $36,470 Canadian plus all taxes and charges.

The locks are mechanical in 1990, I can't for the life of me imagine any car company creating full electric locks without a backup entry method.

Jimmy 2Coupes
12-09-2009, 05:11 PM
This is the window sticker from my automatic 94 SC which I purchased new fresh off the car hauler.

Pablo94SC
12-09-2009, 05:28 PM
1990 SC ~ 1995 SC window stickers...

That's a fairly low optioned '95. Mine is a lot closer to Jimmy's.

Preferred Equip $1055
Automatic transmission $790
Moonroof $740
Luxury group $555
Keyless Entry $215
Premium Stereo Pkg $370
Floormats $30
Alarm $ ???
Spoiler $ ???
Ford factory cellphone $ ???

It didn't have full leather seating or the JBL system. After seeing Jimmy's window sticker, I'd have to take a guess and say mine was in the $28-29k range. Integrated cellphones and alarms were not cheap in 94.