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Nettlesd
10-14-2009, 10:06 PM
Just throwing this out there to see what people think. Should there be a term limit on committee members and moderators?

I'm on the car of the month selection committee and I'm a moderator for the Midwest forum but does that mean I'm on there for life? If I never step down then no one else has the opportunity to serve in that capacity.

Personally, I believe there should be so that others who want to be involved in that capacity have the opportunity to do so. Otherwise, if no one leaves, no one else has a chance to be a committee member or moderator.

Maybe something like this?


2 year limit on committee members
3 year limit on moderators

XxSlowpokexX
10-14-2009, 11:00 PM
There shouldnt be term limits but there should be more then one moderator

Regul8r
10-15-2009, 10:54 AM
No need for term limits.

But there could be more than 1 moderator.

Others could ask to be on the committees or a moderator.

Helps give people a break or share the burdens.

Super XR7
10-15-2009, 04:33 PM
Term limits would be good thing for congress but I don't think so for our committees. I would think that if anyone wanted to participate on a committee the rest of the members would welcome the help.

A very good thing for congress.

Mike

rzibilske77
10-15-2009, 04:46 PM
voted for basically leave as is, If one cannot uphold there position anymore for whatever reason then a change can be made, no need to re-do this ever few years, the sccoa cannot keep up with what they have on there hands now.

Toms-SC
10-15-2009, 07:20 PM
It ain't broke yo.

Dirtyd0g
10-16-2009, 02:46 AM
Option 3, he who pays most gets democratic majority vote in our parlimentry government. :)
Alan

90blkbrd
10-16-2009, 10:12 AM
How many committees are there and who are on them? I will admit I didn't read the thread in the member section for "car of the month selection committee".

I think anyone on a committee or who is a moderator should also be a current paying member of SCCoA. (Membership Expires - this feature looks to be broken on our member pages though)

Nettlesd
10-16-2009, 11:19 AM
How many committees are there and who are on them?

Good question. Two that I know of but there could be more.

* Car of the month selection committee (I believe there are 7 of us on this one)
* SC Shootout committee (I believe I know who's on this committee but I'm not sure I should list the names)


I would think that if anyone wanted to participate on a committee the rest of the members would welcome the help.
Mike

Interesting take on things. If I wanted to be on a committee than the other members should readily and gladly welcome me in? A committee is open to anyone and should not be questioned/challenged if that person wants to be on said committee? I suppose one pays the same membership fee as anyone else so everything is open and fair.

I'm not arguing with you or questioning you but just throwing out some different perspectives. Just kind of wonder what people think.

Duffy Floyd
10-16-2009, 12:41 PM
The Shoot-out Committee is not a SCCoA committee per se. While we help sponsor the event and provide a Forum for the committee's discussions the SCCoA is not running the show in any way, shape, or form, concerning the Shoot-out. It just so happens that many members of that committee are also SCCoA members though that is not to my knowledge ,a pre-condition for membership or selection for participation on that committee. So I am not sure why there is then a poll about that committee on the SCCoA board since "we" don't control it or what it does.

The only established SCCoA Committee presently is the "Car of the Month Selection Committee".

Nettlesd
10-16-2009, 01:53 PM
So I am not sure why there is then a poll about that committee on the SCCoA board since "we" don't control it or what it does.


The poll doesn't specifically list any committee and my initial post only listed the committee I was on. The poll is just a general poll asking a question. It would appear that a lot of people don't really know what committees we have or even how to join. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. But, in my second post, I really did think the Shootout committee was a part of SCCoA.

fturner
10-16-2009, 02:25 PM
WoW!!!! did someone piss you off or something?????

All you've been doing since the shootout is throwing your weight around like no one around here can do anything right and you want to change everything.... the shootout and now SCCOA.

If you want to get on a commitee that bad, then just ask... instead of trying to get everyone else in the club on your side so you can get in :cool:.

I see this kind of crap everyday at work :mad:, and now you're bringing the same type of politics into a car club forum....

Also, and this has happened so many times else where... you change something that has been working great for years and you get some new blood running things and force the old out, and you could end up having no club at all because that new blood screws everything all up that the old has worked so hard at..... then you'll need a commitee to over see that commitee and where the heck does it stop after that.

If it ain't broke.... DON"T FIX IT!!!!

Fraser

Nettlesd
10-16-2009, 03:20 PM
WoW!!!! did someone piss you off or something?????

Nope.



All you've been doing since the shootout is throwing your weight around like no one around here can do anything right and you want to change everything.... the shootout and now SCCOA.

I suppose that's one way to view it but that's not my intentions. I'm just asking questions.


If you want to get on a commitee that bad, then just ask... instead of trying to get everyone else in the club on your side so you can get in :cool:.

I'm not trying to get anyone on my side. I'm just wondering if others have the same view/idea. I'm not saying that is right or wrong but another way to look at things. I guess I like to question things...pull a devil's advocate..or whatever.


If it ain't broke.... DON"T FIX IT!!!!

And that's fine. You spoke up and gave your opinion. I see nothing wrong in that. Heck, if you never asked any questions, where would we be on your expertise on the EEC-IV with tuning and modifying it. Maybe it's not the same thing and maybe it is.

It's all good, Fraser. Sometimes I think there needs to be someone who asks questions or view things differently. Heck, you can poke me with the cattle prod if need be to keep me in line. It doesn't bother me any.

Duffy Floyd
10-16-2009, 03:42 PM
But, in my second post, I really did think the Shootout committee was a part of SCCoA.

Now you know it isn't. You also know how many SCCoA Committes there are....one.

And for those that think there should be more moderators besides Duane in the Midwest Forum...there are...Tony, George, Myself and Ron are all moderators in that forum.

Nettlesd
10-16-2009, 04:07 PM
And for those that think there should be more moderators besides Duane in the Midwest Forum...there are...Tony, George, Myself and Ron are all moderators in that forum.

To me, you, George or Ron are life time moderators so I was only counting Tony and myself for the term limits.

I suppose this is all silliness anyway. I'm in for life. :D

XxSlowpokexX
10-16-2009, 08:12 PM
To Duffy,

I meant all forums. Not any particular one. An dall comittes be it one or 20

Duffy Floyd
10-16-2009, 08:26 PM
Damon,

There are at least 3 (if not more) moderators for every forum.

Nettlesd
10-16-2009, 10:32 PM
Damon,

There are at least 3 (if not more) moderators for every forum.

Sign me up for more forums. Seriously.

XxSlowpokexX
10-17-2009, 03:59 AM
Damon,

There are at least 3 (if not more) moderators for every forum.

Interesting...Never knew that. Most forums allow you to see who is a moderator as well which moderator may have modified or deleted a thread or posting. And generally the same persons wont be moderators for all sections. Kind of like trying to avoid a dictatorship

But I did figure at least Three...You Goerge and Pat...Anyone else...No idea

Now if only we had that many people working on the other sections of the website that are out of date by YEARS

XxSlowpokexX
10-17-2009, 04:01 AM
I forgot to add the :confused::eek::cool::D;):p:)

90blkbrd
10-17-2009, 09:17 AM
Interesting...Never knew that. Most forums allow you to see who is a moderator as well which moderator may have modified or deleted a thread or posting. And generally the same persons wont be moderators for all sections. Kind of like trying to avoid a dictatorship

But I did figure at least Three...You Goerge and Pat...Anyone else...No idea

Now if only we had that many people working on the other sections of the website that are out of date by YEARS


They do show them. Enter into any forum and at the bottom it lists the moderators.

rzibilske77
10-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Just by doing a quick search on moderators I found this

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/member.php?u=2122

This guy/gal is a moderator in the AZ chapter but shows last being on

4-12-2005, so maybe a moderator cleanup is overdue.

XxSlowpokexX
10-17-2009, 08:28 PM
I see it! Used to seeing it before entering forum. 2005 eh?

Mostly

gldiii, blkthndr, Duffy Floyd

Duffy Floyd
10-17-2009, 08:44 PM
Hmmmmm...you mean the Chapter Forum that has had a total of 6 active threads in 2009, 7 in 2008, 1 in 2007, 12 in 2006 and 8 in 2005 huh???? I think the three listed moderators can handle that volume...but just so you know...there are several people with moderator rights not listed.

rzibilske77
10-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Hmmmmm...you mean the Chapter Forum that has had a total of 6 active threads in 2009, 7 in 2008, 1 in 2007, 12 in 2006 and 8 in 2005 huh???? I think the three listed moderators can handle that volume...but just so you know...there are several people with moderator rights not listed.

I wasn't saying that 3 mods couldnt handle that chapter, obviously its dead in Arizona, but it does tell me that someone is not paying very close attention to who is or has rights to moderating. Its quite clear that mod has not been on in 4.5 years.
another would be "fearthis sc" moderator in the gulf coast chapter, has 2 post this year, and none before that since 2005.
I would like to think it takes more then this to be allowed to moderate forums, and yes I understand he probably got the "gig" way back when but that was then.

XxSlowpokexX
10-18-2009, 01:44 AM
Big brother is watching. I'm not even going to ask how these other moderators were chosen.. not much more to talk about here

gldiii
10-18-2009, 02:18 PM
As has been metioned several times before, we rely mostly on members/posters to report issues rather than have a ton of moderators on the boards. I'd say for the most part it works very well. Besides anyone can "resign" a committee or moderator postion at any time. I don't see any real issues at this time.

I do agree (and Duffy has mentioned it to me a couple of times) that we should "fire" some of the inactive moderators and I agree that we should look into it. But I don't see any real issues with it right now. I would doubt there are many people out there that are "chompin' at the bit" to become a forum moderator. Especially once they realize that you will have no friends left after taking on that responsibilty. :) I also see that a smaller group of mods gives us much better consistancy in moderating. Plus it makes communicating issues a lot easier and faster.

And Damon, big brother is not watching anyone. For the most part no one cares and we don't like to moderate unless absolutely necessary. For the most part we wait to long before stepping in rather than over moderating.

Nettlesd
10-18-2009, 04:34 PM
What I was trying to convey in my initial post was looking at things in a different perspective and giving an opportunity to all.

This wasnít about getting Duffy, George or Ron away from being a moderator but giving someone a chance to be a part of something without the fear of being told we already have too many members or moderators and you canít be a part of that group because no one wants to give up their position.

Dirtyd0g
10-20-2009, 09:38 PM
I always thought the best part about this forum/group is that not much moderation is required. Most of us are mature enough to take out or grudges on the track.
Alan