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M90TAURUS
10-27-2009, 06:58 PM
I have a fully balanced set of Diamond Racing pistons, Eagle H-Beam rods, and a polished SC crankshaft. It's already installed in my Taurus engine block, but I have abandoned that project and scrapped the car. I am just gauging interest to see if anyone is interested. If so I will dig up the specs on everything and name some prices.

Id like to sell everything in one batch, but I am willing to separate the rods/pistons/crankshaft.

Since it is in a taurus (FWD) block, Im assuming nobody will want the whole engine. However, if for some reason you do, I will sell the shortblock (it's already assembled on the engine stand).

Located in the metro-detroit area.

midnight89sc
10-28-2009, 12:20 AM
what year are they from.. looking for 94/95. what are you looking to get out of all the them?

90blkbrd
10-28-2009, 07:32 AM
what year are they from.. looking for 94/95. what are you looking to get out of all the them?

Doesn't matter, rods and pistons are aftermarket and the cranks are interchangeable.

M90TAURUS
10-28-2009, 08:19 AM
Doesn't matter, rods and pistons are aftermarket and the cranks are interchangeable.

Correct.

My engine is in my friends garage right now, along with the folder with all the specs and receipts. It seems a few people are interested, so I am going to grab it asap and put the specs and a price(s) up on here.

rzimmerl
10-28-2009, 09:15 AM
Definately more info and pictures of everything.

M90TAURUS
10-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Alright everyone, I dug up what I could at the shop today, unfortunately I don't have my exact receipt from Diamond Racing, all I have is a sheet of paper I scrawled down some notes on :confused: & :mad:

The pistons are forged Diamond Racing pistons with valve reliefs cut from the factory. I mic'd each cylinder all measuring out to 3.840" meaning that these are 0.030" over pistons, which is what I have on my scrawled piece of notebook paper.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290385.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290386.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290387.jpg

I'm going to call Diamond (again) tomorrow, now that I have the pistons out of the block and see if I can get them to pull up an old invoice. I ordered them when I worked for a local speed shop, so it is under the Livernois name, not my own.

The rods are Eagle H-Beam rods for a 351W engine.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290388.jpg

The crank is stock SC and polished.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290390.jpg

All of the stuff is balanced. Unfortunately I blew out the damper while removing it, so no crank pulley/damper anymore.

I also have a custom ground Schneider cam, with the cam card. A couple parts a bit hard to read because of oil damage to the card.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290389.jpg

In addition, I have a set of rebuilt heads with new springs, retainers, etc. and a 3 angle valve job. A brand new timing chain and guides. And a set of 6 Trick Flow pushrods.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290391.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290392.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/PA290394.jpg

Priority will go to someone who wants to buy the rotating assembly as a whole (pistons, rods, and crank) and if nobody is interested in the whole thing I will sell individually. As for the cam/heads/other parts, I don't mind splitting them up.

I also have some other stuff like a stock intercooler, supercharger, water pump and some other miscellany.

If you are interested in any of these parts PM me and we can discuss prices. Sorry this was super long winded.

-Alex

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-29-2009, 11:05 PM
still waiting for prices

Flex
10-29-2009, 11:21 PM
What length are the pushrods? What is the lift on the cam?

M90TAURUS
10-30-2009, 10:29 AM
Pushrod info: Chromemoly, Heat-Treated, 5/16 in. Diameter, 7.200 in. Length

Summit link: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-21407200/

Asking $40 shipped, will include receipt.


I just pulled out what I thought was the cam card from schneider for the 3.8 cam, and I realized after checking the grind number, it was from my 5.0 :eek: so as of right now, I don't have the exact numbers, but as soon as I can get my hands on the cam card or old invoice I will post them.

I do remember it was right around $250-300 for the cam though. I'd let it go for $100 if someone wants to grab it up without the cam card (probably not likely) or $150 when/if I can locate the specs.

M90TAURUS
10-30-2009, 10:50 AM
I pulled a job # off of the bottom of the piston and got my old invoice faxed over. Here is an img of the invoice from Diamond. Nothing really helpful besides proof of what I have. But here it is.

http://www.anchorlessphotography.com/images/diamondreceipt.JPG

Originally I paid (give or take $20 for a rusty memory) $450 for the rods, $500 for the pistons/wristpins/rings, $75 for the crank, and $300 for the polish and full balance; for a grand total of $1325.

My asking price for the whole rotating assembly is $800. I would like to sell it all as one obviously, but if nobody is interested, I will consider separating the parts.

For the heads with rockers and everything, I am asking $200 OBO.

If there is anymore info needed, or questions whatever, feel free to PM me or post it on here and I will get back to you asap.

Flex
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
Definitely interested in the pushrods and perhaps cam depending on lift. I already have 4 so I need to know what the specs on it are.

fturner
10-30-2009, 01:03 PM
any idea what the static compression would be with those pistons?

Fraser

M90TAURUS
10-30-2009, 01:42 PM
Definitely interested in the pushrods and perhaps cam depending on lift. I already have 4 so I need to know what the specs on it are.

I called Schneider and they said there should be a stamped number on all cams they make or work on, including regrinds, so I will check as soon as I get home and post the specs once Schneider sends them to me.

any idea what the static compression would be with those pistons?

Is there a way I can tell by measuring piston height and doing some calculations? I have access to high precision measuring tools; calipers, mic's, etc...

M90TAURUS
10-30-2009, 09:13 PM
Timing gear/chain/tensioner sold.

M90TAURUS
11-03-2009, 12:21 PM
Email's are out to Diamond and Schneider for piston specs and a new cam card respectively, I will post both as soon as I hear back.

JasonMiller94SC
11-03-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm in need of a new crank. Has that one been ballanced for that assembly or is it still stock?

M90TAURUS
11-03-2009, 09:59 PM
I'm in need of a new crank. Has that one been ballanced for that assembly or is it still stock?

It is balanced to that assembly already.

whomeiam
11-03-2009, 11:04 PM
sent pm about price ?

M90TAURUS
11-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Got the new cam card in the mail from Schneider, specs are as follows:

27° intake open btdc
23° exhaust closes atdc
50° overlap
67° intake closes abdc
71° exhaust opens bbdc

Intake/Exhaust valve lift: .468
Intake/Exhaust duration: 274

Will send the cam card along with cam to buyer.

Flex
11-11-2009, 12:54 AM
Made some room dude.

M90TAURUS
11-11-2009, 09:52 AM
Tried PM'n you Flex, but it says your inbox is full.

90blkbrd
11-11-2009, 10:43 AM
any idea what the static compression would be with those pistons?

Fraser

Was this question answered outside of this thread?

M90TAURUS
11-11-2009, 12:03 PM
No it wasn't. I'm still waiting to hear back from the sales guy at Diamond. He has not returned my voicemails/emails and every time I call Diamond, they transfer me but he is on the other line. I will try again this afternoon. Diamond is down the street from my house and if worst comes to worst I can drive there and "bust heads".

I'll post the info as soon as I get it.

Flex
11-11-2009, 02:38 PM
I know. That is why I made some room.:) Go ahead.

M90TAURUS
11-16-2009, 10:21 AM
Pushrods and timing set sold. All other items still available. If you don't like the price PM me with a reasonable offer. Need this stuff gone!

M90TAURUS
11-18-2009, 06:55 PM
FINALLY got the spec sheet for the pistons, now if someone would be kind enough to maybe help me calculate the compression ratio I can finally get that info to all of you :)

Here is the spec sheet:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/ajmanoulian/specsheet-1.jpg

Flex
11-18-2009, 10:45 PM
Ask David Dalke.

M90TAURUS
11-23-2009, 02:18 PM
I called a couple of machine shops and found someone who was willing to help me with figuring out the compression ratio. He used the stock stroke, .030 overbore, standard fel-pro head gasket, and stock heads, and came up with ~8.66:1.

However, he made it a point to let me know that it will vary between applications, because of deck height, the chamber volume on the head and type of headgasket used (because of the size of the bore on the gasket, and compressed thickness).

But I figure this would be a good starting point. And obviously this is without boost, as I'm everyone knows, but just in case...

Hope this helps :o

M90TAURUS
11-23-2009, 07:08 PM
Price dropped from $800 for the rotating assembly to $650. And heads from $200 to $100.

I need to get rid of this stuff!

ricardoa1
11-23-2009, 07:12 PM
So tempting. :eek: someone pick this stuff up.

Newtune
11-24-2009, 12:20 PM
Check PM's

92sclikenew
11-24-2009, 05:13 PM
Price dropped from $800 for the rotating assembly to $650. And heads from $200 to $100.

I need to get rid of this stuff!

wish i had 650 to blow im in metro Detroit...:rolleyes:

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
11-24-2009, 06:23 PM
oohhh booooyyyyyyyy

M90TAURUS
11-24-2009, 11:47 PM
The rotating assembly is sold! :)

I still have the cam and heads and a couple other random 3.8 related parts.

speed95
11-25-2009, 12:21 AM
If they were SC heads I would get this but I dont know the difference between the SC heads and NA heads.

Can someone chime in on this?

M90TAURUS
11-25-2009, 10:19 AM
They are not SC heads, they don't have the SC cast on them.

What exactly the differences are I'm not 100% sure.

BLOWN38
11-25-2009, 10:07 PM
Smaller thread intake bolt holes and one less on each head. More cooling passeges around CC. For the RWD heads anyway.

Flex
11-25-2009, 10:10 PM
Only the 96-98 head has the one less intake bolt. Those also have 7mm valves and the intake bolts are smaller too.