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rzimmerl
11-25-2009, 11:13 AM
Trying to get a group pruchase started for AMW PCV oil separators. Right now in order to get a discount price direct from AMW we must order in sets of 10. ANY color they offer (black, blue, red, satin) you desire can be ordered. The discount price would be $120 (no further discount) per unit plus freight to me, then USPS Flat rate box of $10.35 for me to ship them (Canada shipments $25.95). Approximate total price should be around $145 per unit shipped. I am tyring to work with Haney Motorsports also on this group purchase.

If you would like to get in please post here and send me a PM that your in for the purchase. Once we reach 10 people I will then ask for Paypal payments for the exact amount. I will update this post with the names as they come in. After all payments are recieved, I will then create an account with AMW and send a check, as required by AMW, to purchase the units.

I am not limiting this buy to just 10 units, the first 10 people that sign up are guaranteed a unit. Anyone that's 11 or above will have to wait until another 10 units are spoken for to get in on another batch for the discount.

See the following links for more information

http://www.haneymotorsport.com/HMS%20Oil%20Separator%20Catch%20Can.htm


http://www.accmachtech.com/catchcans.asp

Installation Instructions

http://www.accmachtech.com/PCVCatchCanInstallationInstructions.pdf

..... 1st Group Buy List ...... order placed 12-16-09, tentative delivery 1-18-10
1. rzimmerl - satin -paid
2. David Neibert - black - paid
3. Kurt K - black -paid
4. 90MN12 - black - paid
5. Toms SC - satin - paid
6. Mike8675309 - black - paid
7. Jeff Bratton - red - paid
8. 95_XR7 - blue - paid
9. Wes Melton - black - paid
10. XR7_Dave - blue - paid

It will take another batch of 10 for the next order if anyone is interested, I will have an account with AMW from now on.

David Neibert
11-25-2009, 11:41 AM
Ryan,

Does the set of 10 all have to be the same color ? If it does I suggest we order them in black.

David

rzimmerl
11-25-2009, 11:55 AM
I just called AMW and ANY color they offer and you prefer can be ordered.

90MN12
11-25-2009, 12:26 PM
1 in black please.

Toms-SC
11-25-2009, 12:57 PM
1 satin please

David Neibert
11-25-2009, 01:52 PM
One (black) for me. Can I assume these are going to be the universal kit as shown on Haney's website ?

David

Flex
11-25-2009, 02:05 PM
Ryan,

I have been talking to billet depot on the same style 3 chamber can but theirs starts of much less.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290369740584&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Joe at billet depot told me that they would be happy to offer reduced costs for more volume.

rzimmerl
11-25-2009, 02:09 PM
David,

Yes they are the universal type, which may require additional hose as I am not sure how much is included.

rzimmerl
11-25-2009, 02:13 PM
Flex,

This GP started from this thread

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110799

I did some google searching and I did not run across the Billet Depot one. I decided on the AMW unit due to the stainless mesh filter instead of the other type filters offered.

Mike8675309
11-25-2009, 02:40 PM
1 in Black for Me

95_XR7
11-25-2009, 05:33 PM
Ignore this post.:rolleyes:

Jeff Bratton
11-25-2009, 07:31 PM
place me down for (1) in RED.

Thanks for getting this going!!

Jeff

95_XR7
11-27-2009, 01:08 AM
Place me down for one in blue.

rzimmerl
12-01-2009, 01:35 PM
Just giving a weekly bump.....only 2 more people then I can order the first batch.....

95_XR7
12-03-2009, 12:23 AM
I'd hate to put useless stuff in this thread, but has anyone actually figured out a location to put this? Unfortunately, I'm half-way around the world at the moment so can't actually look at the SC's, but I'm still curious about it.

-Corey

Toms-SC
12-04-2009, 01:10 PM
My SC is sleeping right now. I'll take a peak when it comes apart for paint. :cool:

Jeff Bratton
12-04-2009, 08:14 PM
Scroll down to post #6 from the link below....nickleman60 placed his right under the MAF, looks like a nice resting place for mine also.

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110799

David Neibert
12-09-2009, 09:33 AM
Ryan,

Please add Wes Melton to the list for one unit (black). He tried posting here but was unable...PM me for his contact info when ready to place orders.

David

rzimmerl
12-09-2009, 09:58 AM
First post updated.

Just need 1 more person then I can start collecting and place the order.

............
I am going to call AMW and get the total for the units shipped to me so I can get a good total for everyone. If need be I may just purchase the last unit and sell it later to get this going before the first of the year.

rzimmerl
12-13-2009, 11:43 AM
OK it's official we have 10 people. I'll be contacting AMW on Monday and will be sending everyone a PM with the total and updating the first post. I'll accept Paypal and USPS money orders.

Toms-SC
12-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Thanks for getting this going. :)

pablon2
12-15-2009, 09:01 AM
Just saw this now. I'd like a red one. Since it looks like I am #11, I guess sometime in the spring huh?

rzimmerl
12-15-2009, 09:13 AM
Unforunately yes Paul, your out for for this order unless someone backs out. We'll have to get another 9 units sold to be able to order from AMW. I'll add a 2nd order batch to the first post to see if it generates more interest.

pablon2
12-15-2009, 09:17 AM
Unforunately yes Paul, your out for for this order unless someone backs out. We'll have to get another 9 units sold to be able to order from AMW. I'll add a 2nd order batch to the first post to see if it generates more interest.

Okay, if it looks like we won't make it another 9, or I feel I can't wait, I'll just order from AMW directly I guess. Thanks.

rzimmerl
12-15-2009, 10:20 AM
AMW does not sell direct to the public. They really didn't want to even sell units to me and directed me to Haney at first. I contacted Haney several times for a bulk purchase, but was always redirected and forced to leave messages and never received replies back. You'll have to go thru Haney Motorsports or the other company listed on AMW's site to purchase a unit.

rzimmerl
12-16-2009, 01:22 PM
I recieved the quote from AMW and the order has been placed. I will be messaging everyone shortly with my information.

The approximate ship date from AMW is January 13th to my door. Which means they should be delivered to you the week of January 18th.

The total will come to $134.00 each shipped to your door USPS Priority Mail for US shipments, $150.00 for Intl.

rzimmerl
01-14-2010, 05:42 PM
Just thought I'd give you all an update.

The parts are at the anodizer now and will be shipping to me next week. I am sending the cashiers check registered mail on Saturday. I'll post up again when they arrive.

Toms-SC
01-14-2010, 06:09 PM
Thanks for rocking this GB. :D

David Neibert
01-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Just thought I'd give you all an update.

The parts are at the anodizer now and will be shipping to me next week. I am sending the cashiers check registered mail on Saturday. I'll post up again when they arrive.

Ryan,

Any word from the manufacturer on when to expect these ?

David

rzimmerl
01-26-2010, 02:52 PM
I just emailed her a little bit ago to check on the shipping status. I got the certified mail receipt back last week that they recieved the cashiers check on the 19th. I'll call this afternoon after work if I do not recieve a response and update this post.

Jeff Bratton
01-26-2010, 07:37 PM
Ryan,
Thanks for the update....

Dave, are we getting Antseee... haha! Well I am too!

rzimmerl
01-26-2010, 07:45 PM
I just spoke with Sharon from AMW and here is the update.

All the parts are machined and back from the anodizer. They were waiting for the lids to get etched with the company logo on them, and the etcher is evidentally backlogged for several weeks with work. So, I made the executive decision to forgo the logo etching on them. Nothing will change the way they look in the pictures posted, they were adding the etching so their name was on the product. They will be assembling the units and shipping them to me this week, with possible delivery this weekend. I'll post back when the units have arrived. Anything else feel free post or send me a PM.

Mike8675309
01-26-2010, 08:11 PM
Sounds good. I suggest they throw some stickers in the box so folks that like that look can apply them themselves.

David Neibert
01-27-2010, 02:59 PM
Good call on deleting the etching.

David

Toms-SC
01-27-2010, 03:00 PM
Yup, no issues with that at all. Nice job.

:cool:

95_XR7
01-31-2010, 12:24 PM
Oh what the!
What if we wanted the etching? :p ;)

Anyways, we all greatly appreciate you getting this GP together. Can't wait to see mine.

-Corey

rzimmerl
02-02-2010, 06:48 PM
Due for UPS delivery to me tommorrow, if you would like the tracking number for them from AMW to me send me a PM. I'll update when they arrive.

rzimmerl
02-03-2010, 06:14 PM
They are in, and all accounted for.

I openend mine and noticed that the drain port is a set screw, not a pitcock like the picture shows on the website. IF its OK with everyone I'd like to open all the boxes and see if they are all like that. If they are I'll call and see why the plug instead of the pitcock.

Toms-SC
02-03-2010, 06:23 PM
Fine by me. If mine has a pitcock you are welcome to it. I'd rather have the plug.

rzimmerl
02-03-2010, 06:33 PM
If the plug is no problem, I'll start boxing them up and ship. Then you can decide to change if you want later.

Jeff Bratton
02-03-2010, 06:40 PM
Feel free to open mine.... Curious though, what type of set screw is it? Torx, allen head, etc..? Where I plan to place it it would be easier with a pitcock though.

If you end up calling due to all having this set screw, find out if this pitcock is something they can send seperately with no additional cost but shipping it I understand.

Thanks Ryan.

Jeff

** How do you like yours?? **

rzimmerl
02-03-2010, 06:53 PM
Its 1/8" NPT thread with allen head plug, the pitcock is less then $2 on McMaster Carr (I am sure I can get them local). So just to get these out to everyone let me know if you want a pitcock, and I'll just ship one out to you.

Jeff Bratton
02-03-2010, 07:09 PM
Thanks... I can prolly find one here locally as well. Didn't think about buying/finding one local. I can do just that.

Go ahead and mail mine out then... Appreciate it Ryan.

95_XR7
02-03-2010, 08:13 PM
You can also mail mine out to me. I'll just have to remember to find a pitcock for it before I install it (which will be months down the road.) :p

-Corey

Mike8675309
02-03-2010, 11:04 PM
no need for a petcock. go ahead and check, and feel free to ship.

David Neibert
02-04-2010, 03:10 PM
Its 1/8" NPT thread with allen head plug, the pitcock is less then $2 on McMaster Carr (I am sure I can get them local). So just to get these out to everyone let me know if you want a pitcock, and I'll just ship one out to you.


Ryan,

If AMW is going to supply the petcocks, then I'll wait.

David

Kurt K
02-04-2010, 03:47 PM
Ryan,

If AMW is going to supply the petcocks, then I'll wait.

DavidI'm with David on this one.

rzimmerl
02-04-2010, 04:02 PM
Just spoke with a few people at AMW, and they don't know what happened with assembly that they have plugs instead of petcocks. They have petcocks available and will be shipping me 10 of them. So if you really want it now I'll ship it to you without a petcock, if not it will be another week before these will ship out.

Mike8675309
02-04-2010, 04:41 PM
Just spoke with a few people at AMW, and they don't know what happened with assembly that they have plugs instead of petcocks. They have petcocks available and will be shipping me 10 of them. So if you really want it now I'll ship it to you without a petcock, if not it will be another week before these will ship out.

I'll take the petcock so shipping can wait for it. I'm just not dying to have a petcock like I was the pet rock when it was around. But if they have them, i'll take them since i'm in no hurry for the separator.

rzimmerl
02-04-2010, 05:49 PM
Well I opened all of them and 3 of you got lucky with the petcock. Corey, Jeff, and Dave D. they will be shipping, all others they should ship the end of next week. Sorry for the delay guys, but this has been quite an ordeal.

David Neibert
02-04-2010, 05:53 PM
Well I opened all of them and 3 of you got lucky with the petcock. Corey, Jeff, and Dave D. they will be shipping, all others they should ship the end of next week. Sorry for the delay guys, but this has been quite an ordeal.

Ryan,

I don't mind waiting, because I'm not planning to install it until spring.

David

Toms-SC
02-04-2010, 07:36 PM
It's all good Ryan. Thanks again for putting this on.

I'll wait for the tap thingy.

rzimmerl
02-10-2010, 06:56 PM
Petcocks came in today. I did not get a chance to ship any of the units yet, so all of them will be shipped this Saturday, 2-13, so you should all have them in hand next week.

rzimmerl
02-13-2010, 11:28 AM
They all shipped out this morning, you should all have them this week.

95_XR7
02-13-2010, 11:53 AM
They all shipped out this morning, you should all have them this week.

Again, I appreciate you getting this GP together. I'll have some pictures taken whenever they arrive to the house in the States. :D

-Corey

Mike8675309
02-16-2010, 09:27 PM
Thanks for getting it together. Mine arrived in the mail today in perfect shape. Thanks

Kurt K
02-16-2010, 10:05 PM
Just got mine too. Now I've got to figure out where and when I'm installing it.

Jeff Bratton
02-16-2010, 10:17 PM
Got mine as well today, looks very nice. I will be waiting until the spring to install.

Thanks Ryan!
Jeff

David Neibert
02-18-2010, 12:38 AM
Mine showed up yesterday, looks like a very high quality part. Ryan..thanks for doing all the leg work.

David

pablon2
02-22-2010, 07:53 PM
Since it looks like a second GP won't be happening any time soon you can remove my name from the list. I went ahead and bought one from HMS, arrived today.

rzimmerl
02-22-2010, 08:51 PM
Since it looks like a second GP won't be happening any time soon you can remove my name from the list. I went ahead and bought one from HMS, arrived today.

OK, looks like I'll just go ahead and cancel that 2nd purchase for the time being. Maybe the results from this first batch will spark some more interest.

Toms-SC
02-23-2010, 10:28 PM
Got my unit today. This thing looks super bad ~~~. Thanks Ryan!

95_XR7
02-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Got mine yesterday. I can't be like everyone else and say it looks super badass, because...I haven't seen it yet. BUT, I'll take you all at your word.


-Corey


P.S. According to my brother, it'd look good in his car. He only wishes it was going on his car. :D

rzimmerl
02-24-2010, 08:11 AM
Glad to hear everyone recieved them, now get them installed and see how much junk they collect! :D

David Neibert
03-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Anybody mounted theirs yet ? About the only place I can find to mount it, is on the MP cold air divider box...engine compartment side.

David

Toms-SC
03-04-2010, 06:38 PM
Anybody mounted theirs yet ? About the only place I can find to mount it, is on the MP cold air divider box...engine compartment side.

David

Maybe it is different with your long tube headers but I have a fair amount of space on the lower passenger side firewall. You'd have to be underneath the car to drain it but it could be done during oil changes.

Kurt K
03-04-2010, 07:43 PM
Maybe it is different with your long tube headers but I have a fair amount of space on the lower passenger side firewall. You'd have to be underneath the car to drain it but it could be done during oil changes.
I'm going from memory, but with my mid-length headers, I don't remember there being enough room. And if there is engough room, getting to the drain would be next to impossible.

Jeff Bratton
03-04-2010, 07:46 PM
Anybody mounted theirs yet ? About the only place I can find to mount it, is on the MP cold air divider box...engine compartment side.

David

I'm was looking around and I'm thinking of mounting it where my AC Compressor once mounted, since mine is no longer there. Just figuring on fabbing up a bracket to use to mount it there.

Jeff

Jeff Bratton
03-04-2010, 07:53 PM
I'm sorta waiting for someone else to have an idea where their going to mount it, and going from there. Had the idea of trying it over on the driver side shock tower basically where the early model Washer fluid res. went, but it's on somewhat of a slope and would interfere with me getting to the PS res. Not going to work there!!

rzimmerl
03-04-2010, 08:19 PM
I should have mine installed in a couple weeks, since I am picking up a bunch of goodies tomorrow to put the car back together. ;)

I came up with these 3 ideas:
1. where the AC accumulator used to be, but that will be difficult to drain
2. where the AC compressor used to be and mount there - most likely where I will mount it.
3. mount on the MP cold air divider.

Mike8675309
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
I think mine is going over by where the battery was. I still need to add an aftermarket windshield washer bottle to my car, but I think I'll stick that next to the intercooler under the header panel. That leaves me room to fabricate a bracket next to the relocated power distribution box that I can then bolt the unit to. I wanted to avoid running hose all over, but I'm not sure I can.

One thought was see if it can mount in the area where that bracket used to go from the p/s pump bracket to the water pump. It might fit, but the quick look I just did didn't show an obvious way to mount it.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Jp62dpZLZRg/S5BVAYxjRrI/AAAAAAAAAPk/vMzqkLjZNe4/s800/2010-03-04%2018.46.06.jpg

Jeff Bratton
03-04-2010, 09:12 PM
I ran across this a few weeks back... looks interesting? What's your guys take on these? Will this fit into our PCV gomment opening?

http://jlttruecoldair.com/ZenCart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=23

Jeff

Mike8675309
03-04-2010, 11:36 PM
I ran across this a few weeks back... looks interesting? What's your guys take on these? Will this fit into our PCV gomment opening?

http://jlttruecoldair.com/ZenCart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=23

Jeff

I don't think there is enough clearance for something that big. most cars IC tubes go over the valve cover there. and no room for some big thing sticking up.

90MN12
03-05-2010, 12:53 AM
How about if you have battery mounted in the trunk. Can u put it there where battery was?

David Neibert
03-05-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm was looking around and I'm thinking of mounting it where my AC Compressor once mounted, since mine is no longer there. Just figuring on fabbing up a bracket to use to mount it there.

Jeff

Good idea Jeff.

David

Kurt K
03-05-2010, 11:56 PM
Good idea Jeff.

DavidNot if you still have AC

David Neibert
03-06-2010, 01:23 PM
Anybody know what size threads are on the AC compressor mounting bolts ?

David

rzimmerl
03-06-2010, 01:50 PM
Anybody know what size threads are on the AC compressor mounting bolts ?

David

Pretty sure they are M8x1.25.

David Neibert
03-08-2010, 01:15 PM
If anyone else intends to mount their Oil Seperator where the AC compressor was mounted, here is a sketch of an adaptor plate I'm making to mount mine. The holes for attaching the seperator are not shown, and will be hand drilled later.

http://members.tccoa.com/dneibert/AC%20mount%20adaptor%20plate.jpg

David

Kurt K
03-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Normally, I'd just have you make 2 of these David. But I'm not ditching my AC to mount this. That said, I currently have no idea where I plan to mount it.

Toms-SC
03-08-2010, 01:33 PM
I did not even realize that you still had your AC Kurt! Dave teases me for it. I'm aiming to place it some place near or on the passenger side firewall. Might even see if I could fab a bracket and attach it to a exhaust manifold stud.

Kurt K
03-08-2010, 01:38 PM
I did not even realize that you still had your AC Kurt! Dave teases me for it. I'm aiming to place it some place near or on the passenger side firewall. Might even see if I could fab a bracket and attach it to a exhaust manifold stud.
Not only do I still have AC, but I can use it when it's over 90F (unlike many MP fmic owners).

Mike8675309
03-08-2010, 01:40 PM
Normally, I'd just have you make 2 of these David. But I'm not ditching my AC to mount this. That said, I currently have no idea where I plan to mount it.

An idea bubbling in my head would be a plate like David is showing, but include some longer bolts to mount the A/C compressor, some spacers offs to push the plate out so it clears the compressor pulley. Then make the plate longer so it sticks out past the compressor pulley. Bolt the thing to that plate then just ahead of the compressor pulley.

Just throwing it against the wall. I can't check under a hood yet to see how viable that is.
http://www.machinest.com/spacers/images/New_Folder/spacer_dimensions5.jpg

Flex
03-08-2010, 01:43 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the idea was to mount it as low as was possible so that any oil blown out flows into it easily but has to climb back out.

David Neibert
03-08-2010, 02:33 PM
Normally, I'd just have you make 2 of these David. But I'm not ditching my AC to mount this. That said, I currently have no idea where I plan to mount it.

I don't blame you...If my AC would actually have worked without overheating the motor in 90 degeee temps, I'd still have it too.

David

David Neibert
03-08-2010, 03:45 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the idea was to mount it as low as was possible so that any oil blown out flows into it easily but has to climb back out.

I don't think mounting height matters with this design.

David

Jeff Bratton
03-08-2010, 07:17 PM
If anyone else intends to mount their Oil Seperator where the AC compressor was mounted, here is a sketch of an adaptor plate I'm making to mount mine. The holes for attaching the seperator are not shown, and will be hand drilled later.

http://members.tccoa.com/dneibert/AC%20mount%20adaptor%20plate.jpg

David
Thanks David for the sketch!

David Neibert
03-09-2010, 01:06 AM
Got it mounted tonight. The plate worked fine as drawn except I drilled the 4 mounting holes out to 3/8" to make getting the bolts in a little easier. It was also necessary to premount the seperator to the plate before installing. Be sure to mount it high enough that the drain petcock clears the ridge in the casting. Here are a few pictures.

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41817&stc=1&d=1268112611

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41818&stc=1&d=1268112611

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41819&stc=1&d=1268112611

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41820&stc=1&d=1268112611

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41821&stc=1&d=1268112611



David

Mike8675309
03-09-2010, 08:10 AM
Did you check if the tensioner pulley can swing enough of an arc with that plate there? if I recall, the compressor isn't quite flat right there and may give more room for the pulley to swing than if you just have the plate.

David Neibert
03-09-2010, 11:13 AM
Did you check if the tensioner pulley can swing enough of an arc with that plate there? if I recall, the compressor isn't quite flat right there and may give more room for the pulley to swing than if you just have the plate.

Yes...that tensioner actually moves away from the accesory bracket when the belt is removed and as you can see from the pics, there is plenty of room to release tension to remove the supercharger belt.

David

Kurt K
03-10-2010, 09:47 AM
An idea bubbling in my head would be a plate like David is showing, but include some longer bolts to mount the A/C compressor, some spacers offs to push the plate out so it clears the compressor pulley. Then make the plate longer so it sticks out past the compressor pulley. Bolt the thing to that plate then just ahead of the compressor pulley.

Just throwing it against the wall. I can't check under a hood yet to see how viable that is.
http://www.machinest.com/spacers/images/New_Folder/spacer_dimensions5.jpg

OK, I checked under my hood last night and you won't be able to mount the unit in front of the AC compressor pulley because it will interfere with the upper radiator hose.

As far as the engine compartment goes, I think the only place to mount the separator on an early model is on the passenger side fender, just in front of the coolant overflow tank. The problem with that is that there really would be no way to drain the unit in place. It would be possible to remove both vacuum lines and lift the separator out of the mounting bracket and drain it away from the car. Not sure if I really want to do that, but until I get my car on the lift to inspect other possible installation locations, this is my prefered location. If my battery was in the trunk, I imagine there would be plenty of room there.

Jeff Bratton
03-26-2010, 08:53 PM
I finally got around to installing my seperator and used David Neibert's mounting plate desin idea, Thanks David!:D I just went a step further and rounded off the (4) corners and painted the mounting plate. Pictures aren't the greatest though, sorry!

David N. or Anyone.... Has anyone actually got around to fully hooking up their hoses yet? I'm looking for some instruction on how you guys ended up routing your hoses, in otherwords, from where and to?

rzimmerl
03-26-2010, 09:32 PM
Jeff,

Remove the hose from the PCV valve to the supercharger inlet plenum. Run a hose direct off the PCV valve on the passenger side valve cover to the upper fitting on the separator, then run a hose from the lower fitting of the separator to the inlet plenum of the supercharger where the PCV used to go.

Mike8675309
03-27-2010, 05:09 PM
Should we T the vent hose from the drivers side valve cover into that line as well? If so , you can bring the vent fitting out of the valve cover into a hardware store and pickup a length of replacement flexible hose (to replace the hard one) and run it across to a T put in the line from the drivers side valve cover?

I just made a list of stuff to do with the car this spring... I forgot about installing this. oops, I may need to take a day off.

David Neibert
03-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Should we T the vent hose from the drivers side valve cover into that line as well? If so , you can bring the vent fitting out of the valve cover into a hardware store and pickup a length of replacement flexible hose (to replace the hard one) and run it across to a T put in the line from the drivers side valve cover?

I just made a list of stuff to do with the car this spring... I forgot about installing this. oops, I may need to take a day off.

No....don't tee the line from the driver's side cover. That is where clean metered air goes into the engine.

David

David Neibert
03-29-2010, 03:05 PM
I finally got around to installing my seperator and used David Neibert's mounting plate desin idea, Thanks David!:D I just went a step further and rounded off the (4) corners and painted the mounting plate. Pictures aren't the greatest though, sorry!

David N. or Anyone.... Has anyone actually got around to fully hooking up their hoses yet? I'm looking for some instruction on how you guys ended up routing your hoses, in otherwords, from where and to?

Jeff,

Nice Job....I plumbed it just like Ryan said in his post, except I teed in the fuel vapor canister purge line into the hose that attaches to the inlet plenum.

David

rzimmerl
04-04-2010, 09:56 PM
Got around to geting mine installed this weekend. Just mounted it on the MP cold air divider. Zip tied the hoses together and also zip tied them to the hard coolant line for support.

Install note is that the fittings are shipped loose. I had to add teflon tape and tighten them up.

David Neibert
04-05-2010, 05:07 PM
Got around to geting mine installed this weekend. Just mounted it on the MP cold air divider. Zip tied the hoses together and also zip tied them to the hard coolant line for support.

Install note is that the fittings are shipped loose. I had to add teflon tape and tighten them up.

Looks good, that's where I had originally planned to mount mine.

BTW, Nice blower...does yours use the A-frame snout support ?

David

Kurt K
04-05-2010, 05:20 PM
If you guys were actually man enough to keep the AC in your car, you'd know that neither the air divider or AC mount (obviously) will work.:p

rzimmerl
04-05-2010, 07:45 PM
BTW, Nice blower...does yours use the A-frame snout support ?

David

Yes it does, just have it sitting there for mock up waiting for the inlet and return plenum to be finished.:cool:


AC = Additional Crap.....in the way :D

95_XR7
04-05-2010, 08:08 PM
If you guys were actually man enough to keep the AC in your car, you'd know that neither the air divider or AC mount (obviously) will work.:p

I like the wording of that Kurt. Haha. Anyways, any idea where it WILL work with A/C? I really don't plan on removing the AC in the '95 anytime soon. Cars far too perty to start tearing apart.

-Corey

Kurt K
04-05-2010, 11:19 PM
I like the wording of that Kurt. Haha. Anyways, any idea where it WILL work with A/C? I really don't plan on removing the AC in the '95 anytime soon. Cars far too perty to start tearing apart.

-CoreyLooks like it will fit on the passenger fender, in front of the overflow tank (early model). Unfortunately, there won't be enough room to use the petcock drain, so I will have to remove the separator to drain the oil.

pablon2
05-24-2010, 10:15 AM
Looking to mount mine in the next day or so. I'm thinking of utilizing the bracketry left from when I removed the AC accumulator. I think that is what it is called. Black, metal, and sits in the rear corner of the passenger side of engine bay. This will greatly reduce the amount of hose I need to run. For those that have been running their set-up, have you checked as to how much oil has accumulated over time? (miles driven or hours of operation?). I imagine each engine set-up may have a slightly different amount of oil production, but in general I would hope they'd be pretty close.

pablon2
05-24-2010, 11:05 AM
Got around to geting mine installed this weekend. Just mounted it on the MP cold air divider. Zip tied the hoses together and also zip tied them to the hard coolant line for support.

Install note is that the fittings are shipped loose. I had to add teflon tape and tighten them up.

I see no one asked this yet.....the instructions mention running a "check valve for forced induction systems (centrifugal/turbo)". Is this not needed on the roots-style system?

Mike8675309
05-24-2010, 11:52 AM
I believe the check valve need is for forced induction where the vac line from the catch can is routed to a port that can see positive pressure. I.e. if you had a Vortech and mounted the vac out line after the outlet of the vortech.

David Neibert
05-24-2010, 01:36 PM
I believe the check valve need is for forced induction where the vac line from the catch can is routed to a port that can see positive pressure. I.e. if you had a Vortech and mounted the vac out line after the outlet of the vortech.

Correct, since our PCV valve plumbs to a port on the inlet plenum where it's not possible to create any positive pressure, the check valve isn't needed.

David

pablon2
05-25-2010, 02:30 PM
Correct, since our PCV valve plumbs to a port on the inlet plenum where it's not possible to create any positive pressure, the check valve isn't needed.

David

My set-up has a tube running from the intake elbow (metal tree on backside of elbow with two spigots) to the backside of the inlet plenum. Makes me wonder now if the plenum sees positive pressure since the elbow is under boost. Anyone know what that tube is for?

rzimmerl
05-25-2010, 03:05 PM
A pic would help figure out your setup.

I set mine up so it has a dedicated fitting on the intake plenum of the AR, with nothing else attached to it.

pablon2
05-25-2010, 03:18 PM
A pic would help figure out your setup.

I set mine up so it has a dedicated fitting on the intake plenum of the AR, with nothing else attached to it.

Yep, mine runs from the lower fitting of the oil catch canister to the plenum (second pic) with a tee (third pic) for the line that runs to what I believe David N said was the fuel charcoal canister. I'm talking generalities about a tube (first pic, second fitting from the bottom on the plenum) that runs from the intake elbow to the inlet plenum, aside from the AMW apparatus. It is related though to the AMW setup if the intake plenum sees positive pressure via the latter tube I mention.

rzimmerl
05-26-2010, 08:39 AM
I wouldn't think that cross tube would be enough to pressurize the intake. I removed that cross tube on mine, and plugged the port in the return plenum.

Mike8675309
05-26-2010, 02:52 PM
I'm sure the issue is that the unit isn't designed to withstand significant positive pressure. Thus they don't want someone plumbing it to the pressure side of a blower where it might see more than a few inches of mercury in positive pressure.

I think you're o.k. paul.. That hose looks a titch long though causing that kink in it.

pablon2
05-26-2010, 08:08 PM
I think you're o.k. paul.. That hose looks a titch long though causing that kink in it.

Yes, I noticed that. :rolleyes: Will have to cut it.

Mike8675309
06-13-2010, 01:41 PM
Go my unit mounted today. I've been working on a new air divider that would be sturdy enough to mount the oil separator to. I still need to run the lines, but I'll do that once I can put the rest of my top end back together.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/tcw_fort/TBIRD/2010-06-13114420.jpg

RedFox
09-08-2010, 02:33 PM
Are we going to see another group purchase and are any units available?

rzimmerl
09-08-2010, 02:53 PM
Are we going to see another group purchase and are any units available?

If there are 10 people willing to buy I will start another Group Purchase.

Crash00527
09-08-2010, 03:23 PM
anymore left in silver or chrome?

rzimmerl
09-08-2010, 03:27 PM
anymore left in silver or chrome?

No, they were all presold before I made the order. 10 people must sign up to buy before I will start another group purchase, or you are on your own to find and order one if you don't want to wait.

Crash00527
09-08-2010, 03:31 PM
how long you think before you get another 10 for a group buy?

where do i go if i wanna buy one on my own?

David Neibert
09-13-2010, 03:21 PM
Follow up: I've had this catch can on the car for about 600 or 700 hard miles that included numerous dyno pulls, a couple trips to the track, a couple road tuning sessions, and a 150 mile long car cruise this past weekend.

I had one of the IC tubes off last week installing a new set of plug wires and didn't see any of the usual oil residue, which was nice. Decided to take a look inside the catch can yesterday and see how much if any oil had collected. I drained about 2.5 OZ of nasty looking oil that smelled strongly of fuel, so it's working well.

David

Crash00527
09-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Yea. I had one in my camaro. It caught a lot of garbage. I want one for the bird now.

rzimmerl
09-17-2010, 11:42 AM
Follow up: My unit is working perfectly, drained about 1.5oz. out last night of some dark nasty looking oil. Have about 1200 miles with it on, few dyno pulls, lots of hard street pulls, and a 500 mile trip.

RedFox
09-18-2010, 02:06 PM
I just removed my tubes and I have plenty of oil in there. I would think that as all this nasty oil coats the internals of the intercooler, effectiveness of the unit must degrade. So I want one ASAP.

I noticed by the comments that at least 5 people wanted one. Can we get a group buy going? It would appear that 10 units should go pretty quickly.:)

rzimmerl
09-18-2010, 02:46 PM
I only see two people interested Crash00527 and you RedFox.

RedFox
09-18-2010, 07:48 PM
I guess I got that impression from the positive comments from those who had already bought one.

If you want to see this wrapped-up quickly, would do consider doing a group buy with a 10 day deadline? Maybe that would incite 10 buyers not to sit on the fence and be attractive for those who may want one in a reasonable time frame.

91bird
09-19-2010, 09:50 AM
I would be interested in one as well.

Drew

rzimmerl
09-19-2010, 12:10 PM
OK, that makes 3 interested right now. I will contact AMW on Monday to make sure the details are the same as the first batch. I'll start another thread with all the details just like this post. I'll keep the buy open until after the shootout so those attending can take a look at the way a few have them installed.

BLOWN38
09-19-2010, 12:14 PM
I should prolly pick up one maybe two.

rzimmerl
09-19-2010, 12:19 PM
Here is the link to the 2nd buy, post there for your interest, color, and quantity.

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116474

Crash00527
09-30-2010, 01:24 PM
kool. im debating if i want another color now instead of clear

rzimmerl
09-30-2010, 01:38 PM
kool. im debating if i want another color now instead of clear

Don't post in this thread for the 2nd buy please post in the thread I posted above.