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micah_jones
02-03-2010, 04:15 PM
I need parts for a budget exhaust as soon as possible. I am buying online so links would be greatly appreciated. I dont need new pipes I dont think, just the resonator, mufflers, and maybe cats, whatever you guys recommend. They need to be as cheap as possible, but still decent quality. I dont want it to be super loud but I want it to add power and still sound nice. I definitely dont wanna be heard from really far away though.

Toms-SC
02-03-2010, 04:20 PM
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104772&highlight=Exhaust

micah_jones
02-03-2010, 04:24 PM
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104772&highlight=Exhaust

I dont wanna do true dual because I have an older sc with the older gas tank and really dont want to upgrade the tank. I just wanna use what I have as far as piping goes.

sinhumane
02-03-2010, 05:13 PM
replace your resonator with a dual in/single out unit. cheap, and effective. get a magnaflow or something like that, they are a tube core with fiberglass around it. flows smoother than say a flowmaster with baffles. your stock rear mufflers really dont present much of a restriction, but for sound, you can put wahtever yu want on there. if you go with another fiberglass core, the sound will be very quiet, and if you go with a baffled, you'll get a more tuned, louder note.

my advice, stay away from turbo style mufflers. they are a cheap rolled case design and tend to sound like a donkeys arse.

a good fiberglass muffler is flowtech raptors. get em at oreilly auto. cheap, and have a very good sound to them.

thirdbird
02-03-2010, 08:47 PM
if you can weld....
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/tlmtube04/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=
Looks like he's out of 3".

I have no resonator, 2.5" modified stock cats and a 3" mid-pipe out to stock mufflers.
I don't know what the big deal is about having no resonator, it sounds fine at all cruise speeds little louder, but nothing ear bending. Wot is loud, but not ricey.
I probably got another 40-50 hp with my whole setup, stock tune still, its running better now, has about 50 miles on it.

paul

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 12:19 AM
Arent the stock pipes good for now? I read the resonator is the main thing that is restricting. I want it to be a little louder but not ricey so what mufflers and resonators are good? Also what cats?

NEEDaSCbad
02-04-2010, 12:33 AM
I probably got another 40-50 hp with my whole setup....

That sounds awfully optimistic to me :rolleyes:

Here's a link for a decent price resonator.

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=151

Or for duals...

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=155

Cats...not cheap but it's what I'm running on mine....

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=142

As far as mufflers go buy some cheap muffler from your local autoparts store like sinhumane was saying, it should do ya just fine.

Goodluck! :D

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 12:40 AM
That sounds awfully optimistic to me :rolleyes:

Here's a link for a decent price resonator.

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=151

Or for duals...

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=155

Cats...not cheap but it's what I'm running on mine....

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=142

As far as mufflers go buy some cheap muffler from your local autoparts store like sinhumane was saying, it should do ya just fine.

Goodluck! :D

Those cats are way too much unfortunately. Can i get away with stock cats or are they restricting too? I just wanna free it up and get some more power and also allow for an OD SC pulley in the future.

sinhumane
02-04-2010, 01:52 AM
personally, i used a welded case style resonator, baffled inside. its a flowmaster knockoff. dual 2.25 in, single 2.5 out, used stock pipe, left the cats alone, and put flowtech raptor mufflers on the end with turndowns in the stock location. looks stock, slightly more audible and gave the car a little more responsiveness.

if i had it to do again, i would delete the kitties with straight downpipes... but a future project may change that. ;)

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 02:22 AM
personally, i used a welded case style resonator, baffled inside. its a flowmaster knockoff. dual 2.25 in, single 2.5 out, used stock pipe, left the cats alone, and put flowtech raptor mufflers on the end with turndowns in the stock location. looks stock, slightly more audible and gave the car a little more responsiveness.

if i had it to do again, i would delete the kitties with straight downpipes... but a future project may change that. ;)

Links to where all this stuff can be purchased?

thirdbird
02-04-2010, 11:05 AM
some people just can not be pleased... :rolleyes:

kenewagner
02-04-2010, 11:15 AM
I would leave the stock mufflers alone. They will flow enough as Ford actually put thought into them. If you are going budget that will save you some bucks. Put your money in 21/4" down tubes, cats or no cats, your choice. Install a dual 21/4" in and single outlet resonator to match your existing pipe. Will be a fairly quite system and remove the two biggest restrictions. The resonator and the stock down tubes with horrible cats. I usually dont give out advice on exhaust because no two people seem to agree on it:rolleyes:

Ken

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 11:28 AM
http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/servlet/the-251/89-dsh-95-THUNDERBIRD-EXHAUST-TUBING/Detail


No need for tank upgrade. It will come with the diff to muffler pipes its just not pictured.


http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/catalog/sc_demo.gif

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 11:37 AM
I would leave the stock mufflers alone. They will flow enough as Ford actually put thought into them. If you are going budget that will save you some bucks. Put your money in 21/4" down tubes, cats or no cats, your choice. Install a dual 21/4" in and single outlet resonator to match your existing pipe. Will be a fairly quite system and remove the two biggest restrictions. The resonator and the stock down tubes with horrible cats. I usually dont give out advice on exhaust because no two people seem to agree on it:rolleyes:

Ken

This is what I wanted to do, And would advise people on a budget to just toss the stock cats and put some high flow cats in there. And get a dual in single out resonator and be done with it. Leave the stock system past the stock resonator, the stock mufflers can support stock to mild power.

To the original author type SUMMITRACING.COM on the address bar and look for a Magnaflow dual in 2.25", Single 2.50", Then look for the cheapest high flow cats there. Magnaflow cats will probably come up 2.25" if possible.
Those are the choke point on the system, leave the stock muffers unless they are rotted out.

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 12:58 PM
Would these cats work? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-53005/



EDIT: Also, is a resonator essentially just a muffler? Or is there something different about it. I cant seem to find any dual 2.25 in and 2.5 out resonators anywhere. :(

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 01:10 PM
Would these cats work? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-53005/



EDIT: Also, is a resonator essentially just a muffler? Or is there something different about it. I cant seem to find any dual 2.25 in and 2.5 out resonators anywhere. :(

Yep those cats will do. I had them on my car and will now use them on my other car.

Yeah its a muffler.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-12258/
MagnaFlow 12258 - MagnaFlow Performance Mufflers
Muffler, 2.50 in. Inlet/Dual 2.25 in. Outlet, Stainless Steel, Natural, Each

It is reversable so dont worry about the in out confusion.

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 01:12 PM
Yeah its a muffler.

So I am just looking for a dual 2.25 into single 2.5 muffler basically?

EDIT: one more question, since they are more common could I buy a single 2.5 in, dual 2.25 out and put it in backwards?

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 01:19 PM
So I am just looking for a dual 2.25 into single 2.5 muffler basically?

EDIT: one more question, since they are more common could I buy a single 2.5 in, dual 2.25 out and put it in backwards?


They are reversible but get one as long as its a dual on one side and single on the other, and you are good.

Ideally you want the 2.25x2 and the single to be 2.5" to match to the stock system.

I changed the link so review and make sure you are getting the right one.

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 01:24 PM
They are reversible but get one as long as its a dual on one side and single on the other, and you are good.

Ideally you want the 2.25x2 and the single to be 2.5" to match to the stock system.

I changed the link so review and make sure you are getting the right one.

I understand what sizes I need, but I didnt know if they could be reversed. So this one would be a nice fit, right? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLO-9425422/

Also, are new downpipes needed or can I just replace the cats? My budget for parts is only about 250 so I am worried I wont be able to get everything I need.

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 01:35 PM
I understand what sizes I need, but I didnt know if they could be reversed. So this one would be a nice fit, right? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLO-9425422/

Also, are new downpipes needed or can I just replace the cats? My budget for parts is only about 250 so I am worried I wont be able to get everything I need.

I would stay with magnaflow for the resonator, I gave you a link up top. They are a straight thru design. and are reversable. The Flowmasters are not. Look at the description of the item. The magnaflow will say reversable for custom application.

You have to bring those items to an exhaust shop (Resonator and two cats) unless you know how to weld. They will custom bend the pipes, assuming the shop will cut off your cats which is somewhat illegal in some states. You are better of cutting the cats and resonator off yourself at your house and drive or tow the car to the shop and have them put the new stuff, that way they are not breaking any laws. The car will be loud and cops will come after you if you are not careful.
SCP, SuperCoupePerformance.com Sells down pipes too if you want to bring that with you to the shop. $250 will not be enough to get the job done IMO unless you are fabricating the stuff yourself.

kenewagner
02-04-2010, 01:39 PM
My budget for parts is only about 250

What is your budget for labor? Or did you feel 250 was for the whole Job?

Ken

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 01:44 PM
What is your budget for labor? Or did you feel 250 was for the whole Job?

Ken

The guy at the local shop is doing it for me and I have money set aside for that. I just dont want to spend more than 250 on parts so I know I have enough for labor. Also, if it gets way above 250, I will just buy a 94-95 supercharger instead as a first upgrade. That is why I say 250. In case I wasnt clear, the 250 is for PARTS ONLY, not labor.

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 02:04 PM
The guy at the local shop is doing it for me and I have money set aside for that. I just dont want to spend more than 250 on parts so I know I have enough for labor. Also, if it gets way above 250, I will just buy a 94-95 supercharger instead as a first upgrade. That is why I say 250. In case I wasnt clear, the 250 is for PARTS ONLY, not labor.

You should be good then.

Also look at the pics in this post http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=849804&postcount=14
You will see a flattened part of the single pipe part, second pic, where it meets the stamped steel crossmember support. Have the exhaust shop make a better piece in that section too.

kenewagner
02-04-2010, 02:44 PM
Also, if it gets way above 250, I will just buy a 94-95 supercharger instead as a first upgrade.


If you go over your budget just borrow Ricardos credit card, I hear it has unlimited funds backing it;):D:D

Ken

Gerry Rider
02-04-2010, 03:29 PM
I had a true dual 2 1/4" system custom built for my '89 last summer. It has no CATS, no mufflers, only a flowmaster resonator. Dual in, single 3' out fitted with a collector to attach the 2 pipes to the rear and give it the OK crossover effect. works great, not too loud. Was $550. Was about as good as I could find without doing the work myself.
Gerry

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 03:49 PM
If you go over your budget just borrow Ricardos credit card, I hear it has unlimited funds backing it;):D:D

Ken

But you will need the three digit number on the back though....And an awsome excuse or made up story to tell my wife.

It does have no limits cause of my awesome credit. LOL :p

kenewagner
02-04-2010, 03:52 PM
But you will need the three digit number on the back though....And an awsome excuse or made up story to tell my wife.

It does have no limits cause of my awesome credit. LOL :p

See I figured that since your building 2 built supercoupes. Beside everyone knows the real money in on the east coast;):D:D

Ken

ricardoa1
02-04-2010, 04:13 PM
See I figured that since your building 2 built supercoupes. Beside everyone knows the real money in on the east coast;):D:D

Ken

Thats were the Wall street type money is, which its really just monopoly money.

micah_jones
02-04-2010, 06:52 PM
Considering getting my windows tinted and saving the rest of the money. Someone persuade me not to and stick with the exhaust plan! Will just new caTs and a new resonator make a noticeable difference in power?

scxr7
02-04-2010, 08:13 PM
just ordered the dual 2.5" setup from mendrelexhaustsystems from the headers to the bumper. They're local, I could go pick them up, but I'm lazy, i'll wait a week for them to get shipped here...an hour and half a way. lol. anyways, I'll also give some feedback on how the kit sounds with magnaflow (no chamber) mufflers.

sinhumane
02-10-2010, 07:52 AM
the MES pipes are top notch. used them in a true dual setup on my 95 5-speed. install was a cakewalk and they really made a difference in sound.

the setup on that is catless 2.25 DT's, into a pair of flowtech raptor mufflers 2.25 in/out, up to the 2.5 duals back to a pair of 2.5 flowmasters straight out of the bumper with some slash cut tips sticking out of the bumper. its a bit rambunctious, but still has manners.

thats the play car, so sound doesnt matter. my 94 needed to be quiet.

as for the reversed resonator... go for it, put it on my 94 with no issues. it was really a single in/dual out.

MustangJake88
02-13-2010, 08:50 PM
I'm going with a Magnaflow dual-in single-out in place of my resonator. I'm leaving my stock cats so I'm still legal and keeping my stock exhaust manifolds. In the rear, I am going with the 2 1/2" Flowmaster resonator-back kit from Super Coupe Performance. I talked to Bill at SCP and he stated that the stock exhaust manifolds are good up to about 275 horse. I don't plan on going to crazy with my car but I really hope the exhaust I have planned to install helps out a bit.

sinhumane
02-14-2010, 12:40 AM
some ported out 95 manifolds will flow nicely. dave posted a thread on flow numbers for different manis.

scxr7
02-14-2010, 08:28 PM
I noticed that MES has changed their tubing design. I just got my complete exhaust piping kit from headers back. and they made it to where its impossible to get the piping confused/backwards. I like it a lot. The only issue is that the piping is a TIGHT fit to get together. other than that. its was a complete bolt on.