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RotaryKlown
09-09-2010, 08:46 PM
So, I recently bought my XR7 and at the time of purchase, the seller made me aware that the clutch wasn't receiving enough pressure due to a poorly replaced line. Also, he informed me that due to the lack of pressure, the neutral safety switch would not engage, thus not allowing the car to start from the ignition switch. I have since replaced the clutch line with a brand new one from Rockauto, as well as the slave cylinder. I have full clutch pressure now and still the car will not start without crossing the solenoid.

So is it safe to assume that he's incorrect about the neutral safety switch?

the-big-e
09-09-2010, 09:06 PM
The ignition switches on these cars can cause all sorts of problems.....

Best bet is to replace it...

It's not that hard of a job and can be done in about hour....

TbirdSCFan
09-10-2010, 12:59 PM
I don't know where that info came from, but the clutch lever engages a switch under the dash. At least on my 5 speed its set up like that. Its not pressure activated.

TbirdSCFan
09-10-2010, 01:10 PM
It's not that hard of a job and can be done in about hour.... That would be your typical SC 1/2 hour BTW. Real time spent = 2 hours.

10 minutes spent tyring to figure out how the headlight knob comes off the switch
20 minutes spent shaking your head back and forth saying "This can't be that hard. Why did Ford put that tamper resistant torx bolt in there.".
20 minutes spent unbolting the steering column after giving up on trying to get some combination of bits and extensions on the aforementioned "stupid" torx bolt.
10-15 minutes spent trying to figure out how that clip is supposed to go back on the ignition before deciding to just leave it off.
30 minutes spent gluing the cover panel clips back on after they've snapped off.
and
20 minutes spent sanding/priming the surface rust off the base plate (Oh.. so thats where that smell was coming from :rolleyes:)

Plan accordingly. :D

shoalcracker
09-10-2010, 01:46 PM
The good news is, its always easier the second time.

The bad news is, with ignition switches there will be a second time.

Paul

KMT
09-10-2010, 03:22 PM
20 minutes spent shaking your head back and forth saying "This can't be that hard. Why did Ford put that tamper resistant torx bolt in there.".


Be happy ...those same 20 minutes discourage car thieves too :)

Payton
09-10-2010, 04:09 PM
For that reason I decided to change the steering colom instead. Total time 20-30 min

the-big-e
09-10-2010, 04:48 PM
That would be your typical SC 1/2 hour BTW. Real time spent = 2 hours.

10 minutes spent tyring to figure out how the headlight knob comes off the switch
20 minutes spent shaking your head back and forth saying "This can't be that hard. Why did Ford put that tamper resistant torx bolt in there.".
20 minutes spent unbolting the steering column after giving up on trying to get some combination of bits and extensions on the aforementioned "stupid" torx bolt.
10-15 minutes spent trying to figure out how that clip is supposed to go back on the ignition before deciding to just leave it off.
30 minutes spent gluing the cover panel clips back on after they've snapped off.
and
20 minutes spent sanding/priming the surface rust off the base plate (Oh.. so thats where that smell was coming from :rolleyes:)

Plan accordingly. :D

LOL....:D

I can get the front ignition switch bolt off with a torx bit and a " drive ratchet.....

For the lower one, I use the torx bit and a " wrench....

S_Mazza
09-10-2010, 04:56 PM
So, I recently bought my XR7 and at the time of purchase, the seller made me aware that the clutch wasn't receiving enough pressure due to a poorly replaced line. Also, he informed me that due to the lack of pressure, the neutral safety switch would not engage, thus not allowing the car to start from the ignition switch. I have since replaced the clutch line with a brand new one from Rockauto, as well as the slave cylinder. I have full clutch pressure now and still the car will not start without crossing the solenoid.

So is it safe to assume that he's incorrect about the neutral safety switch?

What year is it? In 1990, the brake light switch had to be engaged for the car to start. Do your brake lights work?

RotaryKlown
09-10-2010, 07:06 PM
Believe me, the further I delve into this car, the more obvious it becomes that he was terribly uninformed/misinformed.

Yes the brake lights work.

S_Mazza
09-11-2010, 12:18 AM
Believe me, the further I delve into this car, the more obvious it becomes that he was terribly uninformed/misinformed.

Yes the brake lights work.

Well, that's a start, anyway. I guess it rules out the brake light switch.

PDQ SC
09-11-2010, 11:28 AM
I replaced my ignition switch in a matter of minutes with a little help from these fine folks. Only costs $12.00 and can be accomplished by simply taking the cover off the steering column. It sits just in front of the tumbler and if you have the torx with a pin hole in the middle, piece of cake as long as you are not prone to finger cramping.

TbirdSCFan
09-11-2010, 03:30 PM
On the manual transmission cars, the ignition cutout is on the clutch pedal lever. On the autos, the brake lamp switch controls the cutout. The cutout is a relay that interrupts the starter circuit.

RotaryKlown
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
Alright, now we're in business. After doing my favorite thing, in-car inversions lol, and crawling under the dash with my multi-meter, I found that the c.p.p.s. . Tested it as it was, nothing. Pinched it, tested again, it worked fine. So, tomorrow I'm going to zip-tie it when I get to work. I did go for a nice ride around town to feel it out this afternoon. :)

Seuss
09-14-2010, 08:56 PM
I use a set like this (I think mine came from Autozone). Just pop the cover off and the wrench reaches the torx bolts pretty easily.

http://www.amazon.com/Torx-Wrench-Tamper-Proof-Security/dp/B0002SQ45K