Just a question, Dont bash on me here!! pacesetter long tubes

so I was laying in bed last night, wife didnt want anything to do with me so I got to thinking...

i have seen pacesetter long tube headers on a mustang. they kinda hug the block nicely. so I was thinking. What would have to be modified to make them work on a SC. the steering joint is the issue. I plan on using a different joint like a flaming river joint so it would get to be smaller diamater at least. but the long tube would give a person more tube to work with if you had to move them or make a different bend in them.

it doesnt really matter pacesetter (cheap) other ebay headers (probably cheaper) or mac long tubes for mustang.

anyone got a pic of what needs to be modified?

just a question that was in my head thats all.

and yes I know the stock manifolds flow pretty darn good when ported, I am just wondering about the headers.

and yes i did search there are lots of threads but no reall pics or answers.

Check out this thread in which various manifolds were flow tested and results documented by XR7 Dave. In fact one of his statements in that thread was:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84828&highlight=mustang+header

XR7 Dave said:

One thing is very clear. The use of Mustang headers is a big mistake if you want to make power. Anyone who has them on their car might as well start making other plans.

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I am thinking he is talking about the mustang tubular manifold that was stock. he is just calling it a header in the post. Correct me if I am wrong but thats how I read it.

he compared it to a long tube "real" header
and a shorty "real" header.

its a very good article to read though. but my question is what needs to be modified on the header, and I said it was just a question in my mind as to why it doesnt fit. not why it doesnt flow better..

The topic has come up before, but I don't remember if Mustang long-tubes were tried. I know Mustang shorty headers have been used. I think that one pipe needed to be modified, or the steering joint changed. You may need to experiment with both.

S_Mazza said:

The topic has come up before, but I don't remember if Mustang long-tubes were tried. I know Mustang shorty headers have been used. I think that one pipe needed to be modified, or the steering joint changed. You may need to experiment with both.

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COOL, when i read it cant be done i just wonder why, thats all. thanks for the reply

No problem. Incidentally, I looked into it a little more. Here are a couple of threads that actually discuss the problems of long tubes in some detail.

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67359&highlight=tbird88+mustang

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55921&highlight=mac+longtube