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bkosonen
11-27-2010, 03:42 PM
This is the kit I'm going to buy. I wanted to set up a poll to see how many people have the kit and like it. What is the difference between this kit and the 2ed one?? Also Should I get the slip-fit or ball and socket. I WILL be changing over to High Flow cats but prob. not at the same time as the exhaust.

1st
http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/servlet/the-116/92-dsh-97-THUNDERBIRD-EXHAUST-TUBING/Detail

2ed
http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/servlet/the-251/89-dsh-95-THUNDERBIRD-EXHAUST-TUBING/Detail

bkosonen
11-27-2010, 03:57 PM
Also the sound from the Exhaust I want is something you can hear at Idle but not Ricey sound. I want you to be able to hear it when im in it. Are the Magnaflow's quiet on these cars??

Regul8r
11-27-2010, 07:47 PM
The difference in the kits is one os for the 89-91, that is the one with the HUGE curve!
The other is the kit for the 92-97 Bird with the straighter through(less bend) design.

Get the Ball and Socket set up on it!
Makes for changing parts in the future ALOT easier.
2 bolts and you are in business, no issues with rusted together crimped, exhaust clamped connection.

bkosonen
11-27-2010, 08:33 PM
Good to know. I have a 93 Bird. Also SHOULD I save up and do cats at the same time? When people say down pipes thats the pipes that have the cats on them that bolt to the headers right? Who makes these?

bowez
11-27-2010, 08:40 PM
Stainless and Borla and be done with it.

bkosonen
11-27-2010, 09:05 PM
do you have any sound clips of yours?

Regul8r
11-27-2010, 10:15 PM
I am waiting for my new exhaust to be bent up.
Will be all mandrel bent 2.5" stainless from Manifolds through high flow cats into a dual in/out muffler/resonator and then connect to a dual exhaust center pipe set up.
ALL ball and socket joints. Before and after the Resonator.

It should be sent back to me next week from the company for test fitting.

bowez
11-28-2010, 09:50 AM
do you have any sound clips of yours?

I'll see what I can do, will say mine is quite

bkosonen
11-28-2010, 05:50 PM
I am waiting for my new exhaust to be bent up.
Will be all mandrel bent 2.5" stainless from Manifolds through high flow cats into a dual in/out muffler/resonator and then connect to a dual exhaust center pipe set up.
ALL ball and socket joints. Before and after the Resonator.

It should be sent back to me next week from the company for test fitting.


I would be VERY interested in this as long as a couple of things:

1. The pipe is TRUE dual set up
2. The Resonator is a Xpipe style like Magnaflow
3. Depending on what kind of mufflers are in the back.
4. Will this be for the 93 since it has the better gas tank?

Regul8r
11-28-2010, 10:05 PM
I would be VERY interested in this as long as a couple of things:

1. The pipe is TRUE dual set up
2. The Resonator is a Xpipe style like Magnaflow
3. Depending on what kind of mufflers are in the back.
4. Will this be for the 93 since it has the better gas tank?

1. Yes true dual
2. Yes Magnaflow style X-Resonator
3. I am getting it without mufflers, then will play with mufflers to my sound liking
4. It will be available for 89-91 AND 92-on fuel tanks.

Will keep you posted!

bkosonen
11-28-2010, 10:14 PM
Sweet. I will hold off tell I hear from you. will it come with mufflers? im interested in pypes mufflers. look at big boar resonator as its cheaper than magnaflows

sinhumane
11-30-2010, 11:58 AM
MES setup, raptor mufflers, dual in/out flowmaster resonator. :)

bkosonen
11-30-2010, 07:22 PM
Do you have any sound clips

sinhumane
11-30-2010, 08:26 PM
no, car shelled a balancer. after i fix it, i'm sure the sound will be a little.. uhh... different... :D

bkosonen
11-30-2010, 09:32 PM
What kind of sound did it have

rbrown
12-01-2010, 12:19 AM
Try this for sound.

http://www.bunlimited.com/misc/DSCF4127.AVI

The link might work. It does on some computers but not others.

bkosonen
12-01-2010, 12:53 AM
That worked. What do you have?? I really like it. I want to still hear the supercharger

rbrown
12-01-2010, 09:53 AM
You can hear the supercharger, it's good.

I did 2.5 down to 2.5 walker cats to 2.5 X-style dynomax dual in dual out to 2 2.5 dynomax mufflers at the stock location at rear.

I will tell you though the X-style dynomax rusts bad. Damon did this setup (albeit a couple changes) and his rusted out rather quickly too.

Borla now has a X-style dual in dual out that I will try next time.

bkosonen
12-01-2010, 12:10 PM
Is it a x style resonator ?

rbrown
12-01-2010, 12:32 PM
Is it a x style resonator ?

Sorta.
http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers.php?muffler=ultraflox

They now use stainless. But Borla's is a higher grade stainless.

neverfastenough
12-01-2010, 12:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0dD-lz7jA

thats my old setup, pretty quiet. Theres pics on here if you do a search.

bkosonen
12-01-2010, 01:19 PM
I have seen that one but alot more money than magnaflow. Check out big boar exhaust they have a xpipe resonator that is cheaper and out flows magnaflow.

XxSlowpokexX
12-01-2010, 09:16 PM
Sorta.
http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers.php?muffler=ultraflox

They now use stainless. But Borla's is a higher grade stainless.

I blew mine into peices!


I need to warrenty it. The case itself actually cracked where dynomax was stamped in it

bkosonen
12-02-2010, 12:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0dD-lz7jA

thats my old setup, pretty quiet. Theres pics on here if you do a search.

It sounds good in the video. Is that magnaflow ?

neverfastenough
12-02-2010, 02:39 PM
It sounds good in the video. Is that magnaflow ?

Magnaflow resonator, borla mufflers, no cats.

bkosonen
12-02-2010, 02:43 PM
O ok. Borla is sooo spendy dose magnaflow have that deep sound? Or what else dose ?

ironworker
12-08-2010, 02:43 PM
i like flowmaster 40ds

Crash00527
12-12-2010, 09:19 PM
Magnaflow says they don't make mufflers for 3.8 SC.. im gonna get mandrel full true dual. just gotta decide on mufflers now.

fturner
12-12-2010, 10:33 PM
Thats interesting, because thats all I have installed on my car... magnaflow cats, magnaflow duel in-duel out internal cross flow 19" resonator, and 2 X 14" magnaflow mufflers in the stock location. All based around that 2-1/2" mandrel setup.

I'm running mid length kooks as well, but gonna drop the ball and socket joints they use and go with vband clamps like I have at the mid point... alot stronger and don't have to worry about collapsing the ball since you have to really tighten them up to seal properly.

Fraser

XxSlowpokexX
12-15-2010, 04:31 PM
Magnaflow says they don't make mufflers for 3.8 SC.. im gonna get mandrel full true dual. just gotta decide on mufflers now.

They dont make an exhaust..The mufflers are universal

Plat0ribs
12-21-2010, 06:15 PM
... but gonna drop the ball and socket joints they use and go with vband clamps like I have at the mid point... alot stronger and don't have to worry about collapsing the ball since you have to really tighten them up to seal properly.

Fraser

Could you just seal them with a high temp RTV to seal tight w/out tightening too much?

Crash00527
02-16-2011, 12:42 AM
Mandrel full true dual, with Magnaflow cats (maaaybe go with no cats) and Magnaflow resonator...still debating on mufflers..Borla or Magnaflow

Trunk Monkey
02-16-2011, 10:15 AM
Mandrel full true dual, with Magnaflow cats (maaaybe go with no cats) and Magnaflow resonator...still debating on mufflers..Borla or Magnaflow

Go BORLA. I have the Pro XP's, offset in / center out, and love the sound. They're connected to the 2.5" Mandrel exhaust system discussed in this thread with Kooks headers at the block and no cats.

Here are a couple of good examples of how they sound on my car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9zZMduBFlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf-EgzQJHFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpTJ3cAOFQk

Crash00527
02-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Oh man..great videos of the bird giving many cans of WHOOOP A** to stupid cars lol

love the exhaust sound also, almost sounds like a V8.

Now my question is... does the deletion of the Cats OR Resonator harm the exhaust/engine in anyway or make the car run different. Will it also throw codes etc.

ThunderChecken
02-16-2011, 01:05 PM
TMs bird is a V8. SVO SuperCharged at that;)

Crash00527
02-16-2011, 01:14 PM
great. so his opinion on exhaust sound is irrelevant to me than.. :(

Trunk Monkey
02-16-2011, 01:52 PM
Oh man..great videos of the bird giving many cans of WHOOOP A** to stupid cars lol

love the exhaust sound also, almost sounds like a V8.

Now my question is... does the deletion of the Cats OR Resonator harm the exhaust/engine in anyway or make the car run different. Will it also throw codes etc.


great. so his opinion on exhaust sound is irrelevant to me then.. :(

Thank you for the complement. Sorry for the confusion. Yea, it's a V8 and that's the only difference. The exhaust is the same as you're considering:

Mandrel bent, 2.5", X-Pipe, no cats, Borla's out back.

Supercharged, same as yours. The only difference is 2 cylinders.

Deleting the cats isn't exactly legal (depending on where you live). No it doesn't throw any codes and if it did I think that can be fixed in the programming. I'm sure there are others around here who don't run cats who can confirm that.

No, deleting the cats doesn't harm the exhaust/engine ... just the environment. :rolleyes:

Crash00527
02-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Nah, it's ok. Was almost excited there for a minute thinking my 6 would sound like an 8 lol

I know that no cats is illegal. I was just more concerned about throwing codes. I'm environmentally friendly but no tree hugger. Lol

troutangler
02-17-2011, 12:51 PM
I run a greddy cat-back, the sound is intimidating.

flowmaster exhaust (http://www.allexhaust.com)


how many miles?

Crash00527
02-17-2011, 01:07 PM
mies? ....who cares about the miles..how does it sound lol

XxSlowpokexX
02-18-2011, 02:07 AM
Just to mention..Nw that y car is running right..My conbo with Kooks headers, high flow metallic cats and dynomax ultraflows out back screams..With an x pipe

Crash00527
02-18-2011, 06:13 AM
You have a sound clip Damon. Not a big fan of dynamax.

Kooks headers will come later on. I still to do my 13" rear brake upgrade to match the front.

XxSlowpokexX
02-18-2011, 05:30 PM
Come to Carlisle!...Its teh ultraflows..They are not your typical dynomax sound for sure..But definitely not a flowmaster

Crash00527
02-18-2011, 05:33 PM
I'll def. be there this year. Unless we have a meet b4 than. But I hope to have exhaust done b4 Carlisle.

XxSlowpokexX
02-18-2011, 06:23 PM
Lets talk. Ive had several exhausts and I can tell you what I liked best dependant on what sound you want

Crash00527
02-18-2011, 06:27 PM
I want a nice deep, throaty, low tone sound. Almost like a mustang or close to it. Def. Nothing ricey or raspy.

dthompson
06-17-2013, 11:13 PM
I had a shop do mine completely custom. Kooks midlength, magnaflow cats, magnaflow res, cherry bomb vortex out the back. I dont like the cherry bomb vortex all that much, but it sounds pretty good. Its a little loud in the cabin. here is a link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1vMgrqRj8

dthompson
06-17-2013, 11:15 PM
I want a nice deep, throaty, low tone sound. Almost like a mustang or close to it. Def. Nothing ricey or raspy.

if you want it to sound like a mustang, buy a flowmaster... but you won't get what you pay for...