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XR7 Dave
01-18-2011, 09:58 AM
Folks we've updated our classes to reflect the growing number of unreasonably fast cars that have been showing up lately.:rolleyes::D Because of this we also decided to drop our slowest class and hope to expand the ET classes instead.

We officially have just one ET class, but depending on how many people sign up, we could split that into as many as 4 classes based on ET so that even though it is bracket racing, we'd have some really close door-to-door racing.

We've done this because as some may have noticed, in the past there have been some classes with only 2-3 people in them and sometimes the two entrants may have been on opposite ends of the index meaning the race wasn't even close. Instead of having such small classes with a potential of wide disparity, we thought it would be better to encourage those people to join a bracket class where the 1/2 second disparity can be more or less eliminated and we can get back to some door to door racing.

Let us know what you think. We are still offering all the index classes but we'll be cutting them off after a certain date based on the # of registered entrants.

Questions? Fire away!

XR7 Dave
01-18-2011, 10:00 AM
Rules as posted on www.sc-shootout.com


Common rules for all classes unless otherwise stated:

1) All cars in all classes subject to general competition rules as administered by the host track.

2) Minimum driver age 18 unless accompanied by a signed affidavit from parents or legal guardian. With aforementioned permission, 16yr old licensed drivers may participate.

3) Permitted fuels include any grade of pump gas, racing gasoline, and/or E85 ethanol blend unless otherwise specified.

4) Competition open to all MN12 chassis cars only unless otherwise stated. Full tube chassis cars or cars without a VIN are welcome to participate but will be restricted to exhibition runs only.

5) Engine must be based on a Ford motor, any and all modifications are allowed. Any form of forced induction and nitrous allowed.

6) All classes subject to minimum class entry number of four (4). Any class with less than 4 entrants may be dissolved with the entrants having the option of joining another class of their choice.

7) All participants will be required to pre-register for a class but will be given the opportunity to change classes as desired up to the time eliminations are called. After eliminations begin no class changes are allowed.

8) If two or more drivers intend to run the same car in different classes then it will be the driver's responsibility to have changeable numbers on the car to avoid confusion at the starting line. Improper #'s or incorrect dial in's will result in immediate disqualification.

9) There will be no refunds on race day for any reason.

10) Compliance with these rules is the sole responsibility of the participant. SC Shootout LLC is not responsible for enforcement of these rules, however; any violation of these rules, knowingly or otherwise, may result in immediate disqualification and forfeiture of any fees paid to SC Shootout LLC.


Racing Classes:

1) Super Stock: 14.499-13.900.

2) Mod 1: 13.899 13.300.

3) Mod 2: 13.299 - 12.700.

4) Mod 3: 12.699 - 12.100.

5) Pro Street:12.099 - 11.500.

6) Elite Street:11.499 - 10.900.

7) Outlaw:10.899 10.300.

8) Pro:10.299 9.600.

9-12) Bracket ET: These classes will be for the driver oriented or for those who do not fit any above category. The number of classes will be based on the number of entrants and will be broken up as necessary based on ET with the intention of promoting door-to-door racing wherever possible.

kenewagner
01-18-2011, 10:10 AM
Rules as posted on www.sc-shootout.com

Are you going to have a break out rule or once a car is slotted in a class will the winner be the lowest ET even if they drop below the index for their class? I really like the classes as you set them up

Ken

Regul8r
01-18-2011, 10:18 AM
I guess I better get my Bird together and to the track a few times this year to see where I will fall! And work out any bugs!

neverfastenough
01-18-2011, 10:45 AM
+1 for the new rules, going to be some tight racing, look out ken

Kurt K
01-18-2011, 11:04 AM
Are you going to have a break out rule or once a car is slotted in a class will the winner be the lowest ET even if they drop below the index for their class?

Ken
Excellent question Ken.

XR7 Dave
01-18-2011, 11:23 AM
There will be a strict break out rule, no grace. If people want to sand bag to stay in a class that will be their choice. You will be allowed, up to the call of eliminations, to change classes if you feel you are not competitive in the class you registered for. Keep in mind that there will be a fixed # of trophies based on pre-registrations and class selections before race day. Therefore it will be in your best interest (if you want to actually receive a trophy for winning) to be accurate in your class selection during registration.

kenewagner
01-18-2011, 12:21 PM
+1 for the new rules, going to be some tight racing, look out ken

I will be ready;) Try not to sell your car in the mean time. Be cool to race a 500hp turbo;) even cooler beating one:eek:

Ken

CMac89
01-18-2011, 01:16 PM
Good stuff. I'm feelin it!

Toms-SC
01-18-2011, 03:38 PM
5) Engine must be based on a Ford motor, any and all modifications are allowed. Any form of forced induction and nitrous allowed.

:eek: Whoa. Do like the new set of rules.

kenewagner
01-18-2011, 03:59 PM
5) Engine must be based on a Ford motor, any and all modifications are allowed. Any form of forced induction and nitrous allowed.

:eek: Whoa. Do like the new set of rules.

To me what you bring isnt as important as where you set in your class. I should be right at 11.5 so if someone want to come along with a 660 hp turbo and they are in my class than I could still spank them.:D:D If they run faster than 11.5 they break out, their toast;)

Ken

nickleman60
01-18-2011, 04:25 PM
I like....................:D:D:D:D

David Neibert
01-18-2011, 04:46 PM
5) Engine must be based on a Ford motor, any and all modifications are allowed. Any form of forced induction and nitrous allowed.

:eek: Whoa. Do like the new set of rules.

We have had that rule for several years. With class indexes, it doesn't matter what mods you have, it's all about what ET the car runs.

David

CMac89
01-18-2011, 05:37 PM
To me what you bring isnt as important as where you set in your class. I should be right at 11.5 so if someone want to come along with a 660 hp turbo and they are in my class than I could still spank them.:D:D If they run faster than 11.5 they break out, their toast;)

Ken

That person will have to slam on the brakes at the 1000 foot to run Sissy Street.

neverfastenough
01-18-2011, 05:55 PM
all mod classes should be renamed, mod 3 sissy street, mod 2 and 1 need names also:D

kenewagner
01-18-2011, 06:21 PM
Casey, Corey calm down, its not that bad losing to the supercharger guys;):D:D Just show up and race and than we can see if wood chucks chuck wood.

Ken

ricardoa1
01-18-2011, 06:50 PM
Oh I will > Superstock this year. Is changing nitrous jets in between races sandbagging?

CMac89
01-18-2011, 06:54 PM
Casey, Corey calm down, its not that bad losing to the supercharger guys;):D:D Just show up and race and than we can see if wood chucks chuck wood.

Ken
It's all good. Trash talk is fun to me.

kenewagner
01-18-2011, 11:05 PM
It's all good. Trash talk is fun to me.

It should be, we are all thunderbird guys, and I have a ton of respect for all the turbo guys and what they accomblished. looking forward to the shootout

Ken

Cobrarthunder
01-18-2011, 11:07 PM
Hey...i like that "elite street" Class!

David Neibert
01-19-2011, 12:08 AM
It should be, we are all thunderbird guys, and I have a ton of respect for all the turbo guys and what they accomblished. looking forward to the shootout

Ken

This year I'm bringing my turbo car to see if I can do some damage in the Pro class :D

David

Superloop
01-19-2011, 12:27 AM
wish this event was closer:rolleyes:....I need to move north:(....I would have tons of fun

CMac89
01-19-2011, 12:30 AM
I'm very excited for this year. Hopefully everything works out for the best for people, this year.

Ken, I know everyone respects the turbo guys and we respect all of the great things you guys do, too. I had a Whipple once, too! Racing is like boxing. Smile and shake hands, beat each other up, then smile and shake hands after we're done.:)

SCrazy
01-19-2011, 08:30 AM
wish this event was closer:rolleyes:....I need to move north:(....I would have tons of fun

We've had guys from Texas at the Shootout. Charles Brown for certain.

Kurt K
01-19-2011, 08:48 AM
We've had guys from Texas and the Shootout. Charles Brown for certain.
Heck, there has been guys from Alberta Canada.

white95v6
01-20-2011, 04:01 PM
hmm one yr i wanna come and play. it won't be this yr. but maybe next yr i can make it out to run with you guys.

ganuolfthegrey
01-20-2011, 04:35 PM
well there will be a few people chasing my park bench. :D
Im just glad i don't have to do the empression of bo duke climbing out of my window again on a stupid uhaul trailer. Oh and this year i want rides as payment for dyno ballast. I promise to bring proof of my calibration on my but dyno.

DrFishbone
01-25-2011, 01:53 PM
well there will be a few people chasing my park bench. :D

Not me!!! :p:p:)

SN95
02-23-2011, 11:33 AM
anyway a 95 mustang swap would be able to run

XR7 Dave
02-23-2011, 11:45 AM
anyway a 95 mustang swap would be able to run

We have a couple Mustangs that run with us in Bracket ET class so yes, you'd be welcome.

Regul8r
02-23-2011, 12:11 PM
We have a couple Mustangs that run with us in Bracket ET class so yes, you'd be welcome.

Help me understand this?

IF you are running something other than an MN12 chassis you can still run but it has to be in bracket racing and not the specific MN12 ET Time classes from the first post?

XR7 Dave
02-23-2011, 12:37 PM
Help me understand this?

IF you are running something other than an MN12 chassis you can still run but it has to be in bracket racing and not the specific MN12 ET Time classes from the first post?

Sorry, first post is not 100% complete nor was it meant to be a binding contract/agreement. Please refer to www.sc-shootout.com for the full binding rules.


Also permitted in Bracket ET class is any other car driven by an MN12 owner or SCCOA/TBU club member whose MN12 is not able to compete. 4WD trucks, vans, SUV's, off-road vehicles or anything with less than 4 wheels not allowed.
Maximum dial-in: 16.50 seconds. Registered participants only.


I didn't mean to leave this off the post above, but it is/was/has been part of our official rules for the Shootout. We have allowed non MN12's to compete in the bracket class every year since 2004.

SN95
02-24-2011, 01:18 AM
cool looking forward to it

9250bird
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
Dave, if I want to race more than one car.....I need to register them both right..... does there have to be another driver for that car..... Depending on time management...... if I can do it I can race them both right? Two cars two registrations, ONE driver?

Thanks

David Neibert
08-17-2011, 04:21 PM
Dave, if I want to race more than one car.....I need to register them both right..... does there have to be another driver for that car..... Depending on time management...... if I can do it I can race them both right? Two cars two registrations, ONE driver?

Thanks

Yes...two cars, requires two registrations. I don't think there is anything that would prevent having the same driver for both cars, so long as they were not running in the same class, and the driver doesn't miss the call to the staging lanes.

David

9250bird
08-18-2011, 10:02 PM
Yes...two cars, requires two registrations. I don't think there is anything that would prevent having the same driver for both cars, so long as they were not running in the same class, and the driver doesn't miss the call to the staging lanes.

David

Yeah..... ok.... They will not be in the same class at all, Planning on running old reliable 92 and then my dads rock stock clean as hell 97 he just picked up. Should be fun.

See you guys soon

Chris

mellbutler
08-22-2011, 01:23 AM
are we allowed to race with seats removed? I am looking to take the pass side out to work on a covering and got thinking...hmmmm


also I will be bringing 2 cars, mainly racing the red one but may make a couple passes in the black one...do I need seperate registartions for each?

Also I can't remember how the registration is counted, is it pp, per car, or couple rate??

kenewagner
08-22-2011, 07:09 AM
are we allowed to race with seats removed? I am looking to take the pass side out to work on a covering and got thinking...hmmmm


also I will be bringing 2 cars, mainly racing the red one but may make a couple passes in the black one...do I need seperate registartions for each?

Also I can't remember how the registration is counted, is it pp, per car, or couple rate??

I always take my passenger seat out. I would keep the the drivers seat though, it is more comfortable that way:D:D

Ken

9250bird
08-22-2011, 10:13 PM
Also, as always what is the cost to NON participants that want to make test and tune passes in between class runs on Sunday....got plenty of locals wanting to make passes.

Thanks