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Miller
03-14-2011, 08:52 PM
I figured Id start a place to BS about my junk. I have alot going on with the car I will get into later or 2morrow, but just wanted to show what I finished today. I am going to take the seatbelt out pof the passanger seat, i was toying with the idea when i snapped my torx bit leaviong me dead in the water.. ;)

lightweight buddyyyyy

Regul8r
03-14-2011, 09:00 PM
What are you doing with it?
End goal?

XxSlowpokexX
03-14-2011, 09:35 PM
Its already a 12 sec car so Im figuring quicker than that lmao

Miller
03-14-2011, 10:56 PM
My goal now is to go alot faster and to bring my car to the shootout.

I was running 12.4s with my last combo. I have a new engine, with new heads + bigger cam. I am going to use the electric waterpump I have. Also going to add meth inj. and new shocks + tires. Going to do something with my inlet also + a few other little goodies.I am losing weight from the car where can. The new seats weigh 12lbs each ( 1 seat has a slider so add a few on there ). so far the big weight items are the front and back seats, wiper assembly, front sway bar and all the crap underneath of the carpet. then alot of little odds and ends.


working on something pretty cool for a rear seat delete that will still aloow me to use the seats if i want. the seats have been gutted out. Pics when i get some more progress on it.

BLOWN38
03-14-2011, 11:23 PM
Lookin forward to see what ya got cookin.

Miller
03-16-2011, 09:58 PM
I pulled out the ABS computer + the harness. Also the tray. I plan to pull the Amp outa the trunk + the wiring and hook the front speakers directly to the deck. back speakers will go.

I am mailing out some stuff this weekend to get the ball rolling a bit. next week I guess I will put the engine in since I dont really know what Im waiting for..

so far, a boring read!

XxSlowpokexX
03-16-2011, 10:41 PM
Boorriingg..At least its nice to see you excited about getting your car going:rolleyes:

Miller
03-17-2011, 11:41 AM
I think im just going to wait until im finished to post anything and be all mysterious like. o0o0o

Miller
03-29-2011, 09:25 PM
ok I lied. ;)

I'v pretty much just been working on removing any weight I can.

I took the back seat out, and braced behind with 1" alum squarestock and then covered with thing alum sheet. I covered it with a felt/carpetish fabric that I attached with spray adhesive. its holding pretty well. I still have to finish the edge where it meets the carpet, I plan to use alum door jam stuff w the felt wrapped around it.
- FWIW - i was origionally going to just lighten the back seat and leave it in. I removed the metal brackets and hinges and the plastic inserts. Also cut the metals out of the seat back. I removed 20lbs out of it, and can still use seats if i chose to. They feel the same sitting in them they are just layed in and the bottom still snaps in. Could put a velco on back of the cushions that would hold in place if u were worried. may be good for somebody who wants to drop the weight but dosent want the look of nothinbg.but felt is lighter so thats my choice. if anybodys interested I can get pics with the seat in place.

I also removed the window motors + all wiring as well as the power locks. door panels are gone too I will patch with alum and maybe carpet or paint I havent decided yet. any suggestions ?

also some more sound deadening stuff, some misc brackets here and there, back speakers, the ABS wiring harness + the trunk amp + wiring. Im just going to rewire to bypass it to just the front speakers.

i still have to remove the fog lights and any bracketry in thur, the windshield sprayer tank, front plastic crash bumper, moonroof motor and tracks.

from what Iv weighed I'v removed 220lbs. not uncluding any small brackets, under carpet padding, trunk insulation or speakers.... Last time i weighed the car with only AC removed it was about 3800lbs. I estimate to be around 36xx now..

also mailed some parts out today for modifications.

BLOWN38
03-29-2011, 10:37 PM
After you take the door panels out put a roll bar in it. Mine works perfect as an arm rest.:)

I would just paint the aluminum panels.

Miller
03-29-2011, 11:23 PM
I thought about putting a bar in, but I dont want to jump the gun. I can add one in later without any more effort then if I did it now.. I have a long way to go to until getting kicked out from my last track run. I'd hope with the changes im doing that it will become an issue, but I tend to fall short of goals!

I was thinking that just painting would probably look better then covering them.. I think it may look cheap.

Chris, any idea what your car weighs in @ now w the cage in it ? and befor ?

XxSlowpokexX
03-30-2011, 12:20 AM
Im thinking use teh same felt or something to cover the aluminum panels. The panels will get scratched up and the felt weighs nothing. It will also smooth out any uneveness you may have in the panels

BLOWN38
03-30-2011, 01:16 AM
Last time out last year it weighed 3750 with me in it and all the seats out. Count me as about 190. I have the steel bumpers out, no fogs. Thats about it for the weight reduction besides removing all the seats but the drivers. Its about 3850 with all the seats and me in it. I think the roll bar is gonna add about 75 lbs. Lost 16 lbs per race seat so 32 total there. Oh yeah had 15" aluminum spares that where 21 each with bias tires(wanna buy em:)?) I had a dvd head unit with amp and 4 speakers. Putting cobra brakes back on which add 2 lbs per side. And slightly heavier front wheel think it was 7lbs more a wheel.

Miller
08-23-2011, 09:08 PM
busy busy busy

I got the new engine in. decided to not go with the electric waterpump this round and avoid any potential problems it may have considering I dont have much time left.
I picked up one of those new stealth pumps, and am running new lines and picked up 80# injs. Im also going to rewire it onto a new relay.

Still waiting for Uncle dalke to get me my meth inj to me.

Am putting in midlength headers and a new honda exhaust.;)

I am moving the battery back to the trunk.
- Iv read 100 threads but cant seem to find any sort of short answer on what I need to do to kill the car with the switch. so if anybody can help thad be great;)

I gotta finish up my ghetto interior and I'd like to install an oil pressure guage and a fuel pressure guage.

Im leaving a bunch out, but thats enough excitment for now..

btw- the chain was when I was screwing around trying to see how neibert made his torque strap..was going to put something to tension it in the middle...still unsure how Im going to make one. Maybe I'll just go slum style and use a ratchet strap.

XxSlowpokexX
08-24-2011, 12:02 AM
you can pick up my car this week to do your thing..Im in florida till Sunday. Let me know

David Neibert
08-24-2011, 02:50 PM
busy busy busy

I got the new engine in. decided to not go with the electric waterpump this round and avoid any potential problems it may have considering I dont have much time left.
I picked up one of those new stealth pumps, and am running new lines and picked up 80# injs. Im also going to rewire it onto a new relay.

Still waiting for Uncle dalke to get me my meth inj to me.

Am putting in midlength headers and a new honda exhaust.;)

I am moving the battery back to the trunk.
- Iv read 100 threads but cant seem to find any sort of short answer on what I need to do to kill the car with the switch. so if anybody can help thad be great;)

I gotta finish up my ghetto interior and I'd like to install an oil pressure guage and a fuel pressure guage.

Im leaving a bunch out, but thats enough excitment for now..

btw- the chain was when I was screwing around trying to see how neibert made his torque strap..was going to put something to tension it in the middle...still unsure how Im going to make one. Maybe I'll just go slum style and use a ratchet strap.

I had to ditch my torque strap when switching to long tube headers. Now I just have the tang on the driver's side mount captured tighter by welding some keystock to make the window smaller. It works just as good as the strap did.

BTW, if attaching that chain to the frame you need some type of rubber isolators or it will shake the car silly when the chain is in tension.

Mike8675309
08-24-2011, 05:00 PM
plenty of remote battery mount info in this thread:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108987&highlight=battery+trunk

Miller
08-24-2011, 05:52 PM
Dave, I had thought about welding that space smaller, but figured that it would just beld that piece that went thru the hole. I have those crap solid rubber mounts. If i wasn't pulling lint outa my pockets for parts I'd love to have those mounts Chuck makes...

David Neibert
08-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Dave, I had thought about welding that space smaller, but figured that it would just beld that piece that went thru the hole. I have those crap solid rubber mounts. If i wasn't pulling lint outa my pockets for parts I'd love to have those mounts Chuck makes...

I've been using the same solid rubber steel caseed mounts I bought from Bill Evanoff back in 2003 and they are holding up fine. Welding up the window of the mount will work just fine...you don't close it completly, just limit the travel by about half of what it is stock.

David

Miller
08-24-2011, 06:15 PM
Im not sure if I know what your talking about with the steel cased motor mount. I have those solid rubber ones you can buy from victor for like $60. My last one ripped in half in less then 10k miles.. If your talking about the same mounts, then good good because I love free fixesssssssssssssssss

CMac89
08-24-2011, 06:38 PM
plenty of remote battery mount info in this thread:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108987&highlight=battery+trunk

Mike, where did you get those cable lugs? I have a 2 gauge cable running to the front, but it only has a 3/8" fastening hole. The studs on the cut off switch that I ordered are 1/2".

BLOWN38
08-24-2011, 09:43 PM
Mike, where did you get those cable lugs? I have a 2 gauge cable running to the front, but it only has a 3/8" fastening hole. The studs on the cut off switch that I ordered are 1/2".

Boat supply place has some good wire and all different sizes of battery lugs. West Marine or something like that. I like the ancor wire, high strand count and nice and flexible and oil and such resistant.

Here's a link with all the lugs west marine, ancor lug list (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=35581&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10109&subdeptNum=10611&classNum=10613)

Mike8675309
08-24-2011, 10:32 PM
Mike, where did you get those cable lugs? I have a 2 gauge cable running to the front, but it only has a 3/8" fastening hole. The studs on the cut off switch that I ordered are 1/2".

cable lugs were from Remy battery: http://www.remybattery.com/Departments/Cable-and-Connectors/Connectors--Lugs-and-Terminals/Compression-Connectors.aspx

I went with those vs what i could find at marine places or local parts suppliers because they are a compression style fitting and don't require crimping or soldering. after getting them tightened down I slipped some high strength heat shrink over the assembly. Cast Copper parts with tin coating.

Miller
08-26-2011, 08:15 PM
Got my fancy snow kit in the mail todayyyyyyy. and rather then dance around looking at it, I spent the whole day trying to fix my generator. I also spent a whole bunch of my tbird money on stuff to stay alive if this hurricane kicks our butt.

David Neibert
08-27-2011, 01:18 AM
Im not sure if I know what your talking about with the steel cased motor mount. I have those solid rubber ones you can buy from victor for like $60. My last one ripped in half in less then 10k miles.. If your talking about the same mounts, then good good because I love free fixesssssssssssssssss

As far as I know, the steel cased solid rubber mounts were only being sold by Bill at SCP. I don't have experince with any other mounts except the stock jelly filled pieces of junk.

David

XR7 Dave
08-27-2011, 09:57 AM
Results vary with different motor mounts, but most of the time it's not the motor mount that rips, it's where they "glue" the rubber to the metal base that rips off. The most solid mount in the world will rip there if it retains that basic design flaw. You can only glue rubber onto steel with just so much "force".

Reducing the window is the key to making those mounts last. If your car launches real hard you will also have to reinforce the tang so it doesn't bend. You auto guys have less of a problem with that.

Mike8675309
08-27-2011, 02:20 PM
I still have to get my motor out, but I'm pretty sure I sheared the threw bolt on the mounts I got from Chuck. on the last run of my last drag race last fall I noticed my engine moving excessively whacking the intake tube into the large opening I have in the hood.

When I get the motor out I'll inspect and I'll rebuild the motor mounts adding a structure to limit the motor movement.

you hook with the torque these things make and the gearing they have in 1st, and lots of things are stressed.

Miller
08-27-2011, 06:57 PM
I think I need to try and rig something up like casey and kevin have. just a bar going accross to the shock tower so there is zero movement...

Miller
08-30-2011, 10:42 PM
Well today , I did work, "son"

I finished up my new fuel lines. -8 / -6 from the pump.

I took a piece of 1/4" steel and pulled the driver side engine down enough so i could squeeze the piece between the top of the "tang" and the mount window. I welded it all around to the tang so its super thick now and it'll never bend on me. theres also no way that itll ever be able to lift up because its already torqed down....I thought I uploaded a picture but i was wrong I guess...
I started setting up my meth inj.. mounted the controler in the glovebox and then realized i dont know where i want to put anything yet sop i moved on...

I took out my fog lights and started cutting out part of the metal front bumper so that I can put my trans cooler behind that foglight hole. I will build a shroud to force the air in better... I also cut the bumper a little bit to make that hole bigger..


I mounted my vac can up inside my fender wall... while I was doing that I started lookin at the vac lines... I think I mixed something up a long time ago w the brake vac lines and never realized... Im not sure if I am on the wrong port, or if I ut one of the checkvalves on backwards somewhere, but the line that was hooked to my boster, I cant blow or suck thru it.. Im almost sure I had the checkvalves all screwed up...Can somebody please look at the vac lines and tell me which part would be the line to the brake booster... and also which way the check valves go please... Im thinkin i was a dope when I did the heads and cam in my back yard so long agooooooooooooooooooo

Miller
08-31-2011, 09:49 PM
TODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY I finished moving the tranny cooler and making brackets to hold it where the foglights were. its pretty cooooool I think it will get a ton more air then it was. Now that its not facing the ground, i wish I hadn't cut the bumper all up underneath because its just a huge hole.. :(:(:(.. weight reduction!

I ran power wire back to the meth inj pump and ghetto-mounted the res in the trunk, then I realized that I dont have any idea what I am supposed to do. I feel like I've read alot of things about doing things differently then the directions say as far as where the solenoid goes and the purge switch so onnn and such.... soooo I gotta do some reading....

and I could still use some help with that vac line thing..

Miller
11-11-2011, 05:26 PM
I havent had a wiper cowl on my car in probably 4 years.... I found it in the shed at my ma's house I thought it was junkedddddddddd.... VERY EXCITING!

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

David Neibert
11-13-2011, 11:17 AM
Looks great !

David

XxSlowpokexX
11-14-2011, 01:47 AM
looks like no wipers?

Miller
11-23-2011, 08:34 PM
SOo0o0o0o0. It did have no wipers, because they didnt fit anymore.

SO!

I cut the wiper assembly up with a cutoff wheel... I extended the harness and mounted the motor to behind the passanger side shock tower.. I cut the wiper arms and extended it with a piece of 3/8th rod that I belt to fit. I welded a sleve to the motor side so I could bolt the rod to the arm. I only have a drivers side wiper, but i wasn't supposed to have any at all so it works for me!

I will post pics once I finish it up.


also, when I welded the brackets to the firewall, I guess I lit the padding behind it, ON FIREEEEEEEEEEE.... so it smoked for about 45 minutes while I played bucket brigade until it stopped smoking... I almost joined the club

XR7 Dave
11-23-2011, 11:51 PM
Gettin er all ready for a trip to Ohio I see.....

Miller
11-24-2011, 01:48 AM
aparently, nobody will pass a safty inspection without wipers. even the people i know that dont even look at the car and pass it, said they wouldnt do it. go figure.

XxSlowpokexX
11-24-2011, 02:24 AM
Now you can drive to Ohio....

Miller
11-24-2011, 10:10 AM
I would never even drive it to e-town. when I go, its going to be trailered .

Miller
12-08-2011, 09:29 PM
so I took my JUMPOFF single wiper to the shop, and came home with an inspection stickah. wootwoot.

todaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay I put the new-to-me mid-length headers in ( way easier then I had expected it to be ). Finished porting my dalke-zilla inlet and put my blinged out 95mm TB on there. its purdy. and its bigggggggggggggg. I cant really see being able to install it on an inlet that wasn't made big. but im no expert.

Also, I had been driving around with my overflow tank thing for the AR with the vent on the side, because thats how I got it. oil would spray all over the place and I would hafta keep an eye on the levels.... well , its been like 4 years but today I realized I can just switch the vent and the hose fitting... so now its on the top :rolleyes:

Dave ( or anybody else in the know ).. When I pulled off the breather hose the inside of the hose was blue. is there some kinda special hose I need to use on this, or is any oil-resistant hose fine. ?


saturday I am going to take out my sweet sounding crappy exhaust and put in the new crappy sounding sweet exhaust.

XxSlowpokexX
12-09-2011, 01:03 AM
how di dyou get headers in with your exhaust in place?

Miller
12-09-2011, 07:11 AM
It wasnt in place

Ira R.
12-09-2011, 03:20 PM
How did you get the TB installed and what have you done for the inlet and MAF setup?

Ira

Miller
12-09-2011, 05:14 PM
All I had to do to install the TB was to port the flange bigger. From how big it needs to be it may port your inlet down to nothing, but I'm not 100% on that. As far as I know, everybody that has installed the 95mm has had an upgraded inlet. I could be wrong tho..

as far as an intake goes, im just going to get a piece of 4" pipe. I dont got the cash yet for a slot so im just going to run the 90mm ba2400 i have on now.

David Neibert
12-09-2011, 05:30 PM
More pictures please. BTW, I thought Ryan Zimmerly was the only one with a big inlet 1.7 AR, guess I was wrong about that. Suprised you didn't run out of material on the top and bottom edge of the mounting flange...I noticed a couple beads of weld were added to John Ludorf's TB mounting flange to have enough material to seal the 95mm TB.

David

Miller
12-09-2011, 05:39 PM
Welcome to Inlet Club. The first rule of Inlet Club is: you do not talk about Inlet Club. :eek:

I also have the few beads welded onto the top and bottom to make room.

Miller
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
I'm going to try and get my car weighed tomorrow. See how much I actually lost and if it was worth it to drive around in a rattle box:rolleyes:

Miller
12-10-2011, 11:54 PM
<a href="http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/?action=view&amp;current=Picture947.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/Picture947.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
HAHAHHA!
<a href="http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/?action=view&amp;current=022.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/022.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

much bettah

<a href="http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/?action=view&amp;current=014.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/014.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

MAKIN MOVES



and got the new-to me exhaust bolted in today too...

rzimmerl
12-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Looking good, that inlet is much different then what mine looks like.

Miller
12-11-2011, 11:09 PM
Looking good, that inlet is much different then what mine looks like.

I know ;);):rolleyes:

From what I've seen, I know ( editied from "think") that yours has a bigger volume then I got. My hopes it that maybe the smoothness may flow nice. Either way its a huge improvment over that awful stock inlet and I've left my expectations high for it. I can put my arm strait thru to the rotors easily. We will see soon enough !

CMac89
12-11-2011, 11:41 PM
Looks awesome, Millah!! You should have painted that thing.

ricardoa1
12-12-2011, 10:43 AM
Thats awsome let put some theories to the test. Good Luck. Big Inlet for the win.

XxSlowpokexX
12-12-2011, 01:13 PM
I know ;);):rolleyes:

From what I've seen, I know ( editied from "think") that yours has a bigger volume then I got. My hopes it that maybe the smoothness may flow nice. Either way its a huge improvment over that awful stock inlet and I've left my expectations high for it. I can put my arm strait thru to the rotors easily. We will see soon enough !

Thats because nothing you ever have can be actually good. You dont know. You assume based on others assumptions perhaps...But its all assuming.

Miller
12-12-2011, 08:51 PM
Thats because nothing you ever have can be actually good. You dont know. You assume based on others assumptions perhaps...But its all assuming.

EH ? Maybe it came out wrong how I said it..? What I was saying, or trying to sayyyyy is that I think that Zims has move overall size to the drivers side, but I wasnt sure that would make a difference past a certain point. yah makin it seem all negative. :rolleyes:;)


andddddddd I happen to think I have alot of nice stuff! I just think my car itself is a little sketchy but thats due to my own doing. but I <3 my parts.

David Neibert
12-13-2011, 12:55 AM
From what I've seen, I know ( editied from "think") that yours has a bigger volume then I got. My hopes it that maybe the smoothness may flow nice. Either way its a huge improvment over that awful stock inlet and I've left my expectations high for it. I can put my arm strait thru to the rotors easily. We will see soon enough !



Just to clarify.....This looks like the old style 1.7 AR inlet which is much smaller than what is pictured on the car, with the 95mm TB :confused:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/Picture947.jpg

David

BLOWN38
12-13-2011, 12:58 AM
Just to clarify.....This looks like the old style 1.7 AR inlet which is much smaller than what is pictured on the car, with the 95mm TB :confused:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/Picture947.jpg

David

Yes thats his old setup. He now has the tubular designed inlet.

XxSlowpokexX
12-13-2011, 02:28 AM
I call shananagins!

Miller
12-13-2011, 07:15 AM
You caught me!

Miller
01-22-2012, 10:48 PM
SOOOOO I wanted to make my engine movement as minimal as possible, so I did some rigging on my passanger side mount..

The bottom piece of steel was to big for me to fit in the space, so I made it a little bit of a wedge and knocked it in there..I welded the top piece on to strengthen it up so it cant bend. I have a similar thing done to my drivers side mount, but wedged on top so there is no room for upward movment...

ps- the welds look like boogers because i did it with the mounts in the car and I couldnt really get to the, that well ;) ~~~ weldinggggggggggggg

I think it should work.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/003.jpg



and build 100000 underway
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/lyli11er/006-1.jpg


Looks awesome, Millah!! You should have painted that thing.
I PAINTED THAT THINGGGGGGG

David Neibert
01-23-2012, 01:46 AM
Jason,

Did you figure out what went wrong when you tried to dyno tune the car last month ?

David

XR7 Dave
01-23-2012, 09:29 AM
Where's Waldo?





I found him.

Miller
01-23-2012, 04:58 PM
No, I never realllllllllllly found what THE issue was, but I did find a few things taking it apart that made me thnkful I did take it apart. lots of time bombs. I put the car together drunk and in a mad rush for the shootout so things went together a little shaky. I always saw your budlight cans so I figured if i wanna go fast I gotta be hydrated!

I changed a whole bunch of little things around. I put the fuel guage in, so that should help me start to figure out whats goin on with it...


yes, waldo is hard to find in my mess.

neverfastenough
01-23-2012, 05:06 PM
One time AT the shootout, when I was well hydrated, I woke up the next morning and found a cone filter wedged down by my starter. Almost as cool as the 2x4 that was stuck under ricos car:p

XR7 Dave
01-23-2012, 05:09 PM
Here's Waldo.

David Neibert
01-23-2012, 05:24 PM
No, I never realllllllllllly found what THE issue was, but I did find a few things taking it apart that made me thnkful I did take it apart. lots of time bombs. I put the car together drunk and in a mad rush for the shootout so things went together a little shaky. I always saw your budlight cans so I figured if i wanna go fast I gotta be hydrated!

I changed a whole bunch of little things around. I put the fuel guage in, so that should help me start to figure out whats goin on with it...


yes, waldo is hard to find in my mess.

Yeah...drinking while working on cars doesn't usually end well. Chris Wise and I replaced a stripped out rocker stud on my 91 SC one evening while enjoying some cold ones. We had already done the same job several times and were getting pretty fast at stripping the motor down and installing a helicoil in the head. We finished in record time, but when we started it up, it sounded like someone was banging on the motor with a hammer. Ooops...we forgot to adjust and lock down a few of the rockers :eek:

These days, the drinking doesn't usually start until we are done turning wrenches.

David

Miller
01-23-2012, 09:31 PM
haha yea, I adopted a new rule of no beers and wrenches at the same time. I never found a cone filter at my starter, but I did aparently spraypaint my cone filter brown once. I also spraypainted FTW all over my garage walls, and my fender...

I got everything back in and I am going to attempt to start it back up.. Hopefully it starts without problems. I'v never had to tow the car into the garage befor so im a bit nervous but we will see!

Miller
01-24-2012, 09:42 PM
SOOOOOOOOO

i got everything buttoned up to start it today. I got it running, and idle in park is as good or better then it ever was. It seems like it may have an inch or so move vac which is a plus. The idle in drive, is noneeeeeeeeee. soon as I put it in drive, boom shuts down. it dosent stumble, just boom. off. I tried opening up the TB a bit, and got it so it juuuuuuuuuuust runs when the IAC is disconnected. same crap.

I hate you tbird. I hate you.

Miller
01-24-2012, 09:43 PM
SOOOOOOOOO

i got everything buttoned up to start it today. I got it running, and idle in park is as good or better then it ever was. It seems like it may have an inch or so move vac which is a plus. The idle in drive, is noneeeeeeeeee. soon as I put it in drive, boom shuts down. it dosent stumble, just boom. off. I tried opening up the TB a bit, and got it so it juuuuuuuuuuust runs when the IAC is disconnected. same crap. My patience was low today so I just packed it up and will try again thursday..

I hate you tbird. I hate you.

XR7 Dave
01-24-2012, 09:50 PM
Don't blame the bird. You had such a bad vacuum leak before that it was causing the car to cruise around on it's own, remember? So I shut down the in gear idle air and now it dies. Thus is the consequences of trying to tune stuff when it is mechanically not ready for tuning.

The good news is that it is easy to fix. Go back to your old file and compare the differences from your new one. Look at the IAC values that I changed. Change them back.

Miller
01-24-2012, 10:59 PM
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So i spent a half hour on the phone with Chris and alllllllllllllllllllll i had to do was just check with you. I may just have to call you first for now on! ;);)

I am happy it is an easy fix tho.

BLOWN38
01-25-2012, 12:38 AM
At least we are getting it tuned mechanically so it can be tuned correctly, electronically. :)

XR7 Dave
01-25-2012, 09:13 AM
At least we are getting it tuned mechanically so it can be tuned correctly, electronically. :)


Thank goodness!



Seriously, we joke but this is the biggest problem facing SC owners. I fully understand that the "black box" under the dash is the root of all evil, but in reality it is tied hand and hand with the mechanics under the hood. One does not function without the other and I am putting everyone officially on notice (again) that it is not optional to understand not just one or the other, but BOTH if you want to have any success beyond 300rwhp.

Tuning has been the bane of SC owners as long as I have been around here, but so have mechanical issues and most of them have been caused by owner mis-step or ignorance, or by lack of maintenance. The remaining issues after those two major causes have been ruled out, are usually parts mismatches caused by a lack of understanding about what actually works vs. what can be bolted on.

You have been warned. ;) :D :eek: :cool:

Ira R.
01-25-2012, 02:55 PM
hat actually works vs. what can be bolted on.

You have been warned. ;) :D :eek: :cool:


........again........:rolleyes:


Ira

Miller
01-25-2012, 05:32 PM
hey listen now. I never said my car was ready. The last time I drove it something felt a little iffy about it and idle got a little higher and i looked all over for a leak but couldnt find. Then when I started the car to drive to dyno and got a CEL I knew it was all over. I said it wasn't gonna be kosher and you guys said nooooooononooooo its fineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. so dont make it like I was ignorant to it cause i knew my poop was poop. ;)

Its hard to learn about tuning and what this and that would effect in the tune. I'v read aloooooooooot in the tuning forum but its so spaced out to get any kinda info, and hard to sort thru speculation of what people think something means. I usually get nowhere until I call Casey, Binksy, or Chris (thanks to all) would be kinda cool if like once a week, somebody in the know could write a paragraph or two about a single topic n how how it corresponds with certain things. not to make anybody an expert, but just to make it known that HEY, THIS THING EXISTS.

XxSlowpokexX
01-25-2012, 07:29 PM
Well if you took your time putting it together in the first place...Putting a car together or taking it apart should never be a race. But perhaps this tim eyou learned your lesson..And fortunately it wasnt the hard way

Miller
01-25-2012, 11:16 PM
sorry to disappoint you dad

Miller
01-31-2012, 08:30 PM
I just spent a day with my car so I decided to buy one of these.
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neverfastenough
01-31-2012, 08:36 PM
I just spent a day with my car so I decided to buy one of these.
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What happened brocif

David Neibert
01-31-2012, 10:50 PM
I just spent a day with my car so I decided to buy one of these.
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That bad huh ?

Miller
01-31-2012, 11:50 PM
I had an issue with fuel pressure. It would only go up to about 50 then shoot down to about 30. today I changed my kirbin out for my old stock regulator, and at the same time, pulled the screen out of my filter and blew it out with some air. I didnt see anything in it, but I did it anyways. So it would't idle anymore. so Corey said do a lil this n that and boom had it running and fuel is holding at 60psi and went way rich for the first time evaaaaaaa. so I parked it right away and when I went back a few hours later to start workin on the tune, it started running like crap soon as I started driving it. I didn't change anything, and it started misfiring when I started getting into the throttle. went back to garage, pulled all the plugs and cleaned them up ( all were good except my #5 was pretty black ( :rolleyes: ). I unhooked the battery and tried it again and it was still poopy. I pulled the codes and I got some EGR crap and some other silly nonsense. my car dosent like KOER for whatever reason so I wasnt able to get that...

my AFR is crap according to Mr. LC-1 but my KAMS are pretty good most of the time then go whacky. I'm going to just shut them out until I can get some $s up for some o2 extensions so i can use my other set..

jussssst dont get how it goes from everything nicey nice and a few hours later its different.

BLOWN38
02-01-2012, 12:17 AM
Maybe your cam sensor went to crap.

Miller
02-01-2012, 11:19 AM
the cam sensor is usually my go-to when I dont know what else to do. I have a pile of them I think, but I accidentally threw a bad one in with the maybe goods. so its a crap shoot!

Miller
02-01-2012, 04:51 PM
Bingo on the cam sensor! Hopefully in a few hours it was still the cam sensor and the car just wasnt being a tease. I think i am going to buy another cam sensor and just leave it in my glove box because my car EATSSSSSSSSSSS DEM UP for whatever reason.







also, I took my car to the scrap yardddddd ( to weigh it ). 3450lbs with a half tank of gas. and being such a skinnnnnnnnnny dude, its only 3595 with me in the car. I'm pretty psyched on how much I got out of it. Still wanna do a lighter hood, and alum diff get rid of my 1000 cca battery that weighs like 50lbs, get some ulum UD pulleys cause I forgot how damn heavy the stock one is, and start changing some suspension crap out to alum.

Ira R.
02-01-2012, 04:58 PM
so I gather now it isn't running rich and it kicks like a son-of-a-gun huh? :p

Ira

Miller
02-01-2012, 11:05 PM
eh, not so much!

David Neibert
02-02-2012, 10:40 AM
also, I took my car to the scrap yardddddd ( to weigh it ). 3450lbs with a half tank of gas. and being suck a skinnnnnnnnnny dude, its only 3595 with me in the car. I'm pretty psyched on how much I got out of it. Still wanna do a lighter hood, and alum diff get rid of my 1000 cca battery that weighs like 50lbs, get some ulum UD pulleys cause I forgot how damn heavy the stock one is, and start changing some suspension crap out to alum.

Wow ! That's pretty light and should do real well on the track with the power I expect your motor to make. Don't get discouraged, if it were easy everyone would have a 10 second SC.

David

Miller
02-02-2012, 08:41 PM
I always joked at how easy it was back when people talked about how hard it was to run 12s. All I had to do was spend money and i was there. Now, it deffinitly isnt easy anymore . Everything takes so much longer and theres so much more to think about and so many more things to factor in at once...If it wasn't for my support group I would have parted it a long time ago, no joke. There was a point I didnt even open my garage door for 6 months

nickleman60
02-02-2012, 09:14 PM
I took my car to the scrap yardddddd ( to weigh it ). 3450lbs with a half tank of gas.

What did you remove to lose so much weight?

Miller
02-03-2012, 09:17 AM
theres posts throughout this saying what I was doing if you wanna read back, but off the top of my head

I nickle and dimed it anywhere I could. like inside the center console is a metal bracket, I took that out. no door pannels and I have my windows on straps and gutted all the wiring from the locks too ( i wouldnt do it again if I could go back ). I removed the back bumper completly, and a large section of the front bumper. sway bar is gone. seats are 12lbs each. all padding under carpet and behind interior pannels. I basically just took out anything I could think of not needing and it added up pretty nice I think. if you havent gutted your bumpers out do it because they are heavy.
I did mine like Dave did, except I cut off the pieces on the side, so it will only stop a head on tree shot.http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15266&d=1126397104



I'm amazed at how light a few people are able to get these cars. other then my heat, radio and gutting my dash out, there really isnt anything left for me to get rid of. now any loss is goign to be by replacing it with lighter parts.

BLOWN38
02-03-2012, 11:10 AM
You need to stop calling it Turd or the like and maybe it will treat you better.;)

Ira R.
02-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Well he's been told that P.O.S. Racing just doesn't work anymore. I think he still doesn't believe though.

Ira

Miller
02-03-2012, 05:23 PM
OOOOH, Iv been thinking about getting a liscense plate that says THE TURD or BUUUUUUUUUURD.. I really wanted it so someow say BIRDS THE WORD but couldnt get it short enough to fit on the plate. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2WNrx2jq184" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



and when I get a new hood one day, I'm going to do this to it again. KEEPIN IT GANGSTA http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/167/img0983fp.jpg

I had a really clean 89 that had a mint interior and really clean exterior with very minimal rust, that I got FO FREE. I thought about swapping into it, but it just wouldnt be the same as my beloved turd <3


check this car out... hes my heroooooooooooo
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559168/1972-chevrolet-nova#25591680002

BLOWN38
02-03-2012, 11:48 PM
That was easy!:cool: I wish we could have 8 letters in VA.

There all fixed

Miller
02-03-2012, 11:48 PM
what was easy

BLOWN38
02-03-2012, 11:53 PM
Birds da word on a tag. Silly.

Miller
02-04-2012, 10:03 AM
dont chu think I was able to come up with those alreadyyyyyy. to me I just think it looks like bird a word

Miller
02-04-2012, 05:47 PM
So i got the ET streets on the car again...

In the hunt to fix my WOT miss , Captain Vinning had me close the gap on my plugs to .030 from the .035 I had. At the same time I squeeed the wire ends in a bit so it would squeeze plug a lil tighter ( as per Sr. Binks ) . It dosen't missfire at high RPMS anymore. WHOOOOHOOOOOOOO. who knew it could feel faster with the ignition working properly.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

so on my WOT new plug-gap pass and VAC LEAKKKKKKKKKKKK. the bolts to bypass valve came loose and was leaking real good at the flange.. easy fix for tomorrow...
everything is starting to come to come together now. Before spring I want to try and drop another 100lbs or so and get some real shocks.

Miller
05-15-2013, 09:15 PM
OOOOOOOKAY


Going to a track rental friday.

quick summary for the lazy people who wish to not read my cars journey.

3500lb race weight
dalkeys heads, .619 lift cam, 1.7l AR with bigger inlet + 95mm tb. makes 22psi
lakewood 50/50 drags shocks o0o0o0o0o0o and everything else that is on everybody else's car that Im to lazy to list..

Guess my best ET and best MPH. winner gets nothing ;)

LIVipers
05-15-2013, 11:09 PM
OOOOOOOKAY


Going to a track rental friday.

quick summary for the lazy people who wish to not read my cars journey.

3500lb race weight
dalkeys heads, .619 lift cam, 1.7l AR with bigger inlet + 95mm tb. makes 22psi
lakewood 50/50 drags shocks o0o0o0o0o0o and everything else that is on everybody else's car that Im to lazy to list..

Guess my best ET and best MPH. winner gets nothing ;)

If it hooks: 11.43 @126.4mph with a tune

If it doesnt hook: 12.24@ 109.3 mph

Figures based on extremely tired mind and wild imagination:D

Good luck Jason, I hope everything comes together for you

BLOWN38
05-15-2013, 11:10 PM
11.7 @ 117

BLOWN38
05-15-2013, 11:13 PM
If it hooks: 11.43 @126.4mph with a tune

If it doesnt hook: 12.24@ 109.3 mph

Figures based on extremely tired mind and wild imagination:D

Good luck Jason, I hope everything comes together for you

If it doesn't hook and can run 126 it should run about 11.4. If it hooks and can run 126 it should run 10.7;)

If its just a terd it will run 12.2:D

Ira R.
05-15-2013, 11:54 PM
If it doesn't hook and can run 126 it should run about 11.4. If it hooks and can run 126 it should run 10.7;)

If its just a terd it will run 12.2:D

None of which takes into account the fact that he will spin the tires the first two times out because they have too much pressure in them, ignore all attempts to suggest he find a good air pressure for the tires and then get all pissy about how the car sux because it's only running 12's.

Until you get in it and run halfhearted 11.7 at 120 :)
And that will just piss him off even more! =lol=

Oh, I forgot to mention the fact that he will also forget to bring a 5 gallon can of race fuel with him. :rolleyes:

LIVipers
05-15-2013, 11:58 PM
But aren't drag tires supposed to have 32psi?:rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

David Neibert
05-16-2013, 12:24 AM
OOOOOOOKAY


Going to a track rental friday.

quick summary for the lazy people who wish to not read my cars journey.

3500lb race weight
dalkeys heads, .619 lift cam, 1.7l AR with bigger inlet + 95mm tb. makes 22psi
lakewood 50/50 drags shocks o0o0o0o0o0o and everything else that is on everybody else's car that Im to lazy to list..

Guess my best ET and best MPH. winner gets nothing ;)


With good weather 11.40 @ 119

David

Miller
05-16-2013, 04:51 PM
What the heck are yah talkin bout Ira. Chris is comin, i am making no drcisions i am just the jockey.

XR7 Dave
05-16-2013, 04:56 PM
I predict you'll drive there and drive home. If you can do that I call it a win regardless of what happens in the middle.

Good luck and keep the shiny side up.

Miller
05-17-2013, 06:59 AM
I towed the car here, and my car dosent hAve a shiny side. U gotta make a real guess

Miguel5671
12-14-2013, 01:37 AM
Interesting turd !!! What did it really run ? 11.5 my guess?

Miller
12-14-2013, 10:23 AM
It went 11.59 @119 on pump gas

Miguel5671
12-14-2013, 03:22 PM
It went 11.59 @119 on pump gas

Awesome !! Pretty quick turd !

Ira R.
12-14-2013, 05:45 PM
Yea, but it looks like crap. ;) :p

Miller
12-14-2013, 06:39 PM
Dont worry bout what my car looks like ira you cant hang with it!

Miguel5671
12-14-2013, 11:49 PM
Yea, but it looks like crap. ;) :p

Lol I won't comment on that mine aint too far from that description either if not worse lmao :eek:

nickleman60
12-15-2013, 10:13 AM
Dont worry bout what my car looks like ira you cant hang with it!

I don't know about that statement, Ira's car has been at Dalke's shop for over a year getting some upgrades..................:rolleyes:

Miller
12-15-2013, 12:08 PM
I sent my car out to Jim demmit last month, lookout!

XxSlowpokexX
12-16-2013, 09:38 AM
I don't know about that statement, Ira's car has been at Dalke's shop for over a year getting some upgrades..................:rolleyes:

Yah but is it 1,000lbs lighter with driver in it is the question.:rolleyes:(perhaps a slight exaggeration...but not to much)

Ira R.
12-16-2013, 02:46 PM
It went 11.59 @119 on pump gas

Now now, you have to give the devil his due. I only ran a 11.63 @119.14 so you can't argue with the results. I guess next time I'll have to figure out a way to shift faster. Oh wait, shift?

Right. I forgot. In my car you can't just stomp on the pedal and hold on for dear life! :p;):D

Damon you are probably right too. My car is 4003lbs with me in it on the scale after that pass. Still and all, my car is in the shop again as we add a few mods so that I am running similar equipment to him so who knows what the results will be.

But all kidding aside, I will tell you that I was there when he ran that 11.59 and frankly I think the car has more in it.

XxSlowpokexX
12-16-2013, 05:33 PM
Ira Im sure his car does. Its like a featherweight compared to most SC's. But the car is also a hodgepoge of parts many of which not ideal. The correct converter 4.10's and some real tires would do wonders for him. And thats considering his tune is AOK. The motor itself is strong. Everything else around it..Well thats his issue now.

As for you.....A lil birdie told me.....

Miller
12-16-2013, 05:43 PM
I dont really think my car is a hodgepodge of parts. Gears are really all i think is missing everything else matches nicey nice i think? My car is like 3450 or 3550 with me in it, i forget the number.. Im actually surprised your car weighs that little ira. And trash talk is legal because chasing ira down was my motivation, so now its his turn to chase. If he would just give in n do an auto, id be back on the chase 😜. And yes my car still has some in it, was only 93 and 23deg timing.. Next spring me n ira can have the showdownnn . Id say damon too but he dosent own a sc any more

XxSlowpokexX
12-17-2013, 12:32 PM
I dont really think my car is a hodgepodge of parts. Gears are really all i think is missing everything else matches nicey nice i think? My car is like 3450 or 3550 with me in it, i forget the number.. Im actually surprised your car weighs that little ira. And trash talk is legal because chasing ira down was my motivation, so now its his turn to chase. If he would just give in n do an auto, id be back on the chase ��. And yes my car still has some in it, was only 93 and 23deg timing.. Next spring me n ira can have the showdownnn . Id say damon too but he dosent own a sc any more

Your converter (expensive or not) was out of a ford explorer and your transmission isnt the most elequent of peices! Thats what Im talking about. Nice transmisison, proper gears and a properly stalled converter fo ryour car would wak eit up big time. Thats where your missing time is. That and good tires!

Miller
12-17-2013, 02:13 PM
I do need a trans n gears and a converter.. I tried to get tires but......

neverfastenough
12-17-2013, 02:30 PM
I have some good tires on sc wheels

Ira R.
12-17-2013, 04:01 PM
Your converter (expensive or not) was out of a ford explorer and your transmission isnt the most elequent of peices! Thats what Im talking about. Nice transmisison, proper gears and a properly stalled converter fo ryour car would wak eit up big time. Thats where your missing time is. That and good tires!

His car will clearly run faster if he fine tunes some of what you mention, but to compare the two cars at this stage is pointless because when you get right down to it we aren't even running the same mods. He has larger injectors, bigger intake assembly, MAF, TB and such.

Both cars have room for improvement so as he said, let's see what happens in the spring. Hell I haven't been to the track in who knows how long. I'll be happy just to find the starting line next year.

XxSlowpokexX
12-17-2013, 04:35 PM
His car will clearly run faster if he fine tunes some of what you mention, but to compare the two cars at this stage is pointless because when you get right down to it we aren't even running the same mods. He has larger injectors, bigger intake assembly, MAF, TB and such.

Both cars have room for improvement so as he said, let's see what happens in the spring. Hell I haven't been to the track in who knows how long. I'll be happy just to find the starting line next year.

mmhmmmmmmmm........So the birdie says. All I was saying is Millers car now has a nice engine.....The rest just isnt ideal. Hes quick because the cars light. But in the end. If you are talking drag times..Its a combination of thinsg that gets you from point a to point b the quickest. And thats all that matters. Youll never see me comparing my car ever thats for surea sit will likely never be raced. Nothing to compare!

Miguel5671
12-18-2013, 03:36 AM
Ohh wow his car still missing all that ? My car woke up huge just with a mild 11" 2600 stall cheapo conveter and shift kit... im sure a 9.5" and a lentech vb would do 10 times better

Miller
02-24-2014, 04:58 PM
Just got the wreck its inspection. Remember guys, always tip your inspection guy ;)

Miguel5671
02-24-2014, 06:29 PM
Just got the wreck its inspection. Remember guys, always tip your inspection guy ;)

Pfft I get mine delivered at home lol :b

But yeah tip the inspection guy makes life easier

Miller
09-27-2014, 09:07 PM
So a few weeks ago i took the car out for a whoopin, i let off the gas at top of 3rd and got a CEL n it started making noises and stuff so i pulled in home quick and it shut off. Motor was seized up. Found the cam stalk gear broken up that spins the oil pump. Well long story short, pulled it all out today and i had spun a main and welded the bearing to the crank, and spun 3 rod bearings pretty bad. The heads and cam and pistons and everything else is okay but the bottom is wiped out. The funny part is that this engine was supposed to be all built up. It had new pistons but stock everything else...😒😞

no164ford
09-27-2014, 10:58 PM
That sucks!!!!!!! You going to rebuild it?

Mike8675309
09-29-2014, 02:38 PM
. The funny part is that this engine was supposed to be all built up. It had new pistons but stock everything else..

Argg, so irritating. That is one of the reasons that if I buy a motor, I tear it down to check everything before installing it in anything. You just never know in most cases.

So did something break loose and jam the oil pump, thus the failures? Or was the distributor shaft failure a secondary thing?

Miller
09-29-2014, 07:38 PM
Bump for a part-out

Miguel5671
11-20-2014, 06:05 AM
Bump for a part-out

The turd revives in another turd ? :eek: