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Roadhawg
11-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Today I pulled the stock 3.8L NA engine out of my daughter's Mustang. Tomorrow is a day of cleaning and prepping. Then the forged SC engine will be going in on Sunday. If all goes well, it will be up on the Dyno at 9am Wednesday for a tune.

BLOWN38
11-11-2011, 07:08 PM
Cool man!!!!!!!

davec73
11-11-2011, 07:59 PM
slick looking engine cant waite to see it in the car

sc4u2nv
11-12-2011, 02:23 PM
that has to be one of the nicest looking SC engines I have ever seen....

Miller
11-12-2011, 04:15 PM
I cant get my paint to last long at all...Do you rattle can it ?

Roadhawg
11-13-2011, 07:40 PM
Today we dropped the engine into the car.

kenewagner
11-13-2011, 10:23 PM
Today we dropped the engine into the car.

Thats clean enough to eat off of:D

Ken

decipha
11-13-2011, 10:34 PM
damn clean engine, what kind of power do you expect it to make?

looks like an mp inlet, 85mm t/b, underdrives, o/d pulley minus the belt

you said forged lower.. i take it head work and cam too?

decipha
11-13-2011, 10:36 PM
oh yeah, what shop is tuning it?

Roadhawg
11-13-2011, 11:38 PM
damn clean engine, what kind of power do you expect it to make?

looks like an mp inlet, 85mm t/b, underdrives, o/d pulley minus the belt

you said forged lower.. i take it head work and cam too?


I was hoping for 300rwhp and 375rwtq

Build List:
SC Block .30 over
SC Forged Crankshaft
94/95 SC connecting rods (ARP rod bolts)
Wiseco .30 over Forged pistons
94/95 SC windage tray
Big valve Dave Dalke ported heads
ARP head studs
218/224 540 lift cam
Scorpion Roller rockers
MPX 15% OD
MP Raised Top
MP 85mm throttlebody
60lb injectors
Kenewagner Double IC
05+ GT slotted MAF
SC underdrive pulleys

Roadhawg
03-15-2012, 06:44 PM
We went to the Dyno today for a tune. Tomorrow we will go to Hertford, NC for Test N Tune and Saturday will be the first race of the season.

rzimmerl
03-15-2012, 07:20 PM
Soon to be another quick SC stang for sure, was it on a dyno jet or mustang dyno?

BLOWN38
03-15-2012, 07:21 PM
Nice flat curve.

frdlvr30
03-15-2012, 07:23 PM
That is a Dyno-jet....
Nice Job Todd. She will be the Fastest 20yo girl in town....

Roadhawg
03-15-2012, 07:39 PM
That is a Dyno-jet....
Nice Job Todd. She will be the Fastest 20yo girl in town....

Thanks.........
Hopefully we will be bringing it to this years SC shootout.

Roadhawg
03-16-2012, 11:47 PM
We just got back from Test n Tune at Hertford NC 1/8 mile. The car ran a 8.04 at 87.9mph with 1.924 60ft.
That was with some tire spin out of the hole due to track prep. I guess I should replace the stock V6 transmission and torque converter with the Dirtydawg converter and built 4R70W I have sitting in the garage.

nickleman60
03-17-2012, 09:23 AM
That's a mid 12 second run right now.......good job. Tighten up the 60' and Jennifer should run close to a 12.0-12.1.

Roadhawg
03-18-2012, 07:34 AM
It has been a busy week. Yesterday we went back to Hertford to race. My daughter got knock out in the third round.
She ran a 7.99 on a 7.99 dial in, but that was with her backing off to prevent a breakout.

nickleman60
03-18-2012, 09:31 AM
It has been a busy week. Yesterday we went back to Hertford to race. My daughter got knock out in the third round.
She ran a 7.99 on a 7.99 dial in, but that was with her backing off to prevent a breakout.

If she lost then she must have been sleeping at the tree..............:o

Roadhawg
03-18-2012, 09:41 AM
If she lost then she must have been sleeping at the tree..............:o

You got it................ she lost by .06

Roadhawg
04-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Took the Mustang to Friday Test n Tune at Hertford last nite. The air was nice and cool, so I figured it would be a good chance for a fast run.
The car made a 7.85 @ 88.57mph, with some traction issues.

nickleman60
04-08-2012, 07:43 AM
Took the Mustang to Friday Test n Tune at Hertford last nite. The air was nice and cool, so I figured it would be a good chance for a fast run.
The car made a 7.85 @ 88.57mph, with some traction issues.

Little by little that thing getting closer to a 12.0 time, 7.85 is a 12.2 in the 1/4, that's what I run on motor......:eek:

Roadhawg
04-08-2012, 09:26 AM
Little by little that thing getting closer to a 12.0 time, 7.85 is a 12.2 in the 1/4, that's what I run on motor......:eek:

I am happy with the overall performance.
The motor was built to handle a touch of Nitrous, but I'm not sure if that will happen this year.

nickleman60
04-08-2012, 09:56 AM
I am happy with the overall performance.
The motor was built to handle a touch of Nitrous, but I'm not sure if that will happen this year.

If and when you do I would go with a Zex system, easy to install, simple to recalibrate and works great.

Roadhawg
04-08-2012, 10:00 AM
If and when you do I would go with a Zex system, easy to install, simple to recalibrate and works great.

I agree, we plan on going with a ZEX Blackout system.

nickleman60
04-08-2012, 10:48 AM
I agree, we plan on going with a ZEX Blackout system.

That system seems to be the "new" version of the one that I have. I'm curious as to how it "senses" rich or lean conditions by monitoring bottle pressure and adjusts as needed. Another reason I know you like that kit is that all components are black and easy to hide or blend in.......:rolleyes:

Roadhawg
04-08-2012, 10:58 AM
Another reason I know you like that kit is that all components are black and easy to hide or blend in.......:rolleyes:

Seems you know me fairly well....;)

nickleman60
04-08-2012, 11:25 AM
Seems you know me fairly well....;)

Probably too well...........:rolleyes:

I'm still waiting to get my buddy over here to weld up my exhaust. If he can't make it this week then I'm going to my backup plan, one of his co-workers in the same shop. I know he'll jump on the opportunity quick to pocket $100 for a few hours work.

frdlvr30
04-09-2012, 08:36 AM
A "Touch" of nitrous he says....lol

Roadhawg
04-09-2012, 10:53 AM
A "Touch" of nitrous he says....lol

That is a 50 - 75Hp shot in my book.............

nickleman60
04-09-2012, 03:21 PM
That is a 50 - 75Hp shot in my book.............

A 100-125 shot is a touch in my book........;)

Jen's car with a 75 shot will probably run faster than I run now on a 100 shot........:eek::eek:

'95Cougar_XR-7
04-21-2012, 03:30 PM
Nice dynosheet, Brent does great work. Got the XR7 tuned yesterday morning. That's a good lookin' SC motor!

Roadhawg
04-29-2012, 07:57 AM
Nice dynosheet, Brent does great work. Got the XR7 tuned yesterday morning. That's a good lookin' SC motor!

Thanks...........

Went to Hertford 1/8 mile yesterday, she ran her best time of 7.77 @ 89.7mph

fordmanforever
05-06-2012, 02:46 AM
Congrads on the car and the build. What a sweet unique lil machine. KUDOS truly. Tell her to enjoy.

ford girl
05-07-2012, 12:17 PM
A 100-125 shot is a touch in my book........;)

Jen's car with a 75 shot will probably run faster than I run now on a 100 shot........:eek::eek:

When are you going to be ready to run against me up at VMP? :p

nickleman60
05-07-2012, 04:26 PM
When are you going to be ready to run against me up at VMP? :p

Are you calling me out?.........:D

ford girl
05-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Are you calling me out?.........:D

YEAH! ...As long as you leave the nitrous bottle for the dentist to use. :)

nickleman60
05-07-2012, 07:56 PM
YEAH! ...As long as you leave the nitrous bottle for the dentist to use. :)

I've been dragging my feet lately, I had a nitrous solenoid sticking so I think I have that fixed. If I can get motivated maybe this Friday is the day, if not it'll have to be 2 weeks from now because VMP is booked up next Friday-Sunday with the Super Chevy Show.

And my nitrous bottle is like the American Express card motto, "never leave home without it"...........when heading to the strip.........;)

mustangmike!
10-15-2012, 04:27 PM
This car is pretty nasty ! Love it.

Ive just started a thread wanting more in depth info on the supercoupe swap.

Only issue is i have a 2004.

4.2 HCI etc etc 100 shot of nitrous.

7.81 @ 87 1.73 60' is my best. Cant wait to play in this cold weather.

I didn't buy the black out system. Instead I used black wireloom since my mustang has so much black ~~~~ already.

People look and look and never see it. Even those who know I have nitrous have a hell of a time looking for it. :D

Did an amazing job of hiding it if I do say so myself ;) (many others do too)





But im really wanting to do a SC build just like this in my 04. Was hoping for about 300/400. Seeing now whats thats gonna take, its not gonna be easy but Ill be trying.

Just gotta work out the kinks and figure out how this swap will work on the 04!

Awesome build you have !

Roadhawg
10-15-2012, 04:58 PM
You will run into a lot of nay sayers on a New Edge M90 swap. On my 4.3L with a MPX at 25% OD I made 367rwhp and 450rwtq.
The car ran a 7.28 with a 1.56 in the 1/8th mile. I built my daughter's 98 Mustang as a stout daily driver.

Todd

fast stang16
06-18-2013, 09:46 PM
Hey I just wanted to see what all is really involved im in the process of fixing to start this swap. All the research ive done has led me to m90 swaps not the whole engine swap could you tell me what all you had to swap out?

Roadhawg
06-19-2013, 04:57 AM
Hey I just wanted to see what all is really involved im in the process of fixing to start this swap. All the research ive done has led me to m90 swaps not the whole engine swap could you tell me what all you had to swap out?

The easiest swap is done on the 94-95 3.8L Mustang. You do not have to do a whole engine swap, but it is HIGHLY recommended you use the SC engine as is built for boost and the stock NA engine is not.

fast stang16
06-20-2013, 10:03 AM
I guess I should have said I have a 1997 mustang and a 1992 sc
My main concern is with timing cover and harmonic balancer? Will the ones I have work? Some say yes some say no! If not what the difference in 97 timing cover and 94/95 cover? And what about with harmonic balancer on sc 92 vs 94/95?
Thanks,
Justin

nickleman60
06-20-2013, 10:44 AM
I guess I should have said I have a 1997 mustang and a 1992 sc
My main concern is with timing cover and harmonic balancer? Will the ones I have work? Some say yes some say no! If not what the difference in 97 timing cover and 94/95 cover? And what about with harmonic balancer on sc 92 vs 94/95?
Thanks,
Justin

I'm not sure about the timing covers but the harmonic balancer/excitor ring are defintely different.

BLOWN38
06-20-2013, 11:15 AM
What you will want to do is use all the sensors from your stang. So that would mean you need to use the stang timing cover and a BHJ balancer for the 94-95 SC. And hopefully the crank sensor is the same between the 94-95 SC and the stang.

Roadhawg
06-20-2013, 11:19 AM
I guess I should have said I have a 1997 mustang and a 1992 sc
My main concern is with timing cover and harmonic balancer? Will the ones I have work? Some say yes some say no! If not what the difference in 97 timing cover and 94/95 cover? And what about with harmonic balancer on sc 92 vs 94/95?
Thanks,
Justin

The 94/95 timing cover has the proper mounts for the newer crank sensor and allows you to use the SC waterpump. You will need to use a 94/95 SC balancer on the 92 SC engine to have the correct trigger wheel and maintain neutral balance. You could use the 97 timing cover, but you will have to modify hose connections and routes.

fast stang16
06-20-2013, 03:46 PM
Ok thanks I will get a 94/95 timing cover to make easier. On the harmonic balancer I read tht the 97/98 4.2 f150 balancer will work? Reason I ask is because I can actually find these! Lol

Roadhawg
06-20-2013, 04:35 PM
Ok thanks I will get a 94/95 timing cover to make easier. On the harmonic balancer I read tht the 97/98 4.2 f150 balancer will work? Reason I ask is because I can actually find these! Lol

Any 94/95 front wheel drive 3.8L timing chain cover from a 3.8L Mustang or 3.8L NA Tbird will work.
The 97/98 4.2 f150 balancer will work, you will have to modify one of the holes on the SC crankshaft pulley, as one of the holes is offset.
You could also upgrade to a BHJ balancer. https://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?partId=740
Also you may need to find the correct flexplate or flywheel...............