neverfastenough
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I know we have a 2012 goals thread, and thats not what I want this to be. Hasn't been much tech talk about where we're at at the moment. And I guess this will actually be a more blower based topic. Looking for replys from some of the big dawgs, even though that title keeps changing.
Do you think you have room to improve on your engines? Not so much the car, just talking engines here. Is the 3.8 based sc motor out of umph. 2 years ago it seemed like we kind of thought we were, lots of talk of cylinder heads being made, or that we had to have an intake manifold made. Im guessing around that time 450rwhp was the basic number that was trying to be topped. Few of you blower guys have now, and even a m90 on the juice. Was all the talk of intakes and heads replaced by a bit more rpm, better inlet plenums, some trans tweaking, etc?
I guess Im kind of waiting for this kind of talk to come back up. Or are you guys quitting? I dont mean that in a giving up way, but we've seen 10's at under 500rwhp, or near enough that it makes no difference. Not makeing a blower/turbo knock here, but for lack of better words, "you guys" are pretty e.t based anymore, and theres nothing wrong with that, I continue to work on that constantly. If it turns out Ken tweaks his way to high 400's and 10's, or Zimmerly, Keith,Tuck, and Oatway. Are you throwing in the towel then?
I quote David off the top of my head "you wouldnt be happy with 600rwhp?". And Hell no, I know theres more to be had. Do you guys think theres more to be had than the 500rwhp number on your stuff? I think there is, but what are your plans, if heads never come for example. Someone willing to go outside the box with all billet rotating assembly and more CI? 8500rpm? Blue Bottles for everyone? Whats the plans?
I looked in the goals thread and not much engine talk there, its roll bars, suspension, weight reduction, etc. All that is very important, but are we subconsciously doing that stuff because its now "easy" when compared to pushing a sc engine past 500rwhp? Two years ago we just kept working on power and power and power, now I see were all working on .02 sec on 60fts. Makes me wonder if the end is near for the power plant. Maybe the end isnt near and high 400rwhp is just a content number for most.
We ever going to see this?
Not a knock thread here at all, Im sure everyone here has priorities way higher than a sc. Low funds, lack of time, all of the above. So "eventaully" whats the plan for SC engines, have they peaked?
Corey
Edit, Id like responses from everyone really. Anyone building an engine/ blower setup currently, How bout the big guy AA. Shooting to 500?, because thats max potential for a sc engine? Kurt, you in a planning stage, content, bored with the sc, or maybe just no time at the moment? If you did want to redo the setup would you shoot for a north of 500 number?
Do you think you have room to improve on your engines? Not so much the car, just talking engines here. Is the 3.8 based sc motor out of umph. 2 years ago it seemed like we kind of thought we were, lots of talk of cylinder heads being made, or that we had to have an intake manifold made. Im guessing around that time 450rwhp was the basic number that was trying to be topped. Few of you blower guys have now, and even a m90 on the juice. Was all the talk of intakes and heads replaced by a bit more rpm, better inlet plenums, some trans tweaking, etc?
I guess Im kind of waiting for this kind of talk to come back up. Or are you guys quitting? I dont mean that in a giving up way, but we've seen 10's at under 500rwhp, or near enough that it makes no difference. Not makeing a blower/turbo knock here, but for lack of better words, "you guys" are pretty e.t based anymore, and theres nothing wrong with that, I continue to work on that constantly. If it turns out Ken tweaks his way to high 400's and 10's, or Zimmerly, Keith,Tuck, and Oatway. Are you throwing in the towel then?
I quote David off the top of my head "you wouldnt be happy with 600rwhp?". And Hell no, I know theres more to be had. Do you guys think theres more to be had than the 500rwhp number on your stuff? I think there is, but what are your plans, if heads never come for example. Someone willing to go outside the box with all billet rotating assembly and more CI? 8500rpm? Blue Bottles for everyone? Whats the plans?
I looked in the goals thread and not much engine talk there, its roll bars, suspension, weight reduction, etc. All that is very important, but are we subconsciously doing that stuff because its now "easy" when compared to pushing a sc engine past 500rwhp? Two years ago we just kept working on power and power and power, now I see were all working on .02 sec on 60fts. Makes me wonder if the end is near for the power plant. Maybe the end isnt near and high 400rwhp is just a content number for most.
We ever going to see this?
On my 91 SC: Break the 600 rwhp barrier on a dynojet and chrome plate the 4" intake pipe.
On my 93 SC: Figure out a way to get a bigger air filter to fit the much bigger turbo and fabricate some type of chin spoiler/air dam for improved engine cooling. Pull 900rwhp
David
My goals are:
600 rwhp
10.0 sec 1/4 timePaint the new nose and add white ghost flames to the front of the car
And of course not blow it up.
Mike
I started this weekend by gutting the interior of the car
Car is going on a diet
Rebush the rear suspension
Mount the IRS solid to the car body
New shifter
Rebuild the tq converter
And a engine project if the funds are there,to go for 600rwhp and low 10's
Ken
Thats a decent start
Not a knock thread here at all, Im sure everyone here has priorities way higher than a sc. Low funds, lack of time, all of the above. So "eventaully" whats the plan for SC engines, have they peaked?
Corey
Edit, Id like responses from everyone really. Anyone building an engine/ blower setup currently, How bout the big guy AA. Shooting to 500?, because thats max potential for a sc engine? Kurt, you in a planning stage, content, bored with the sc, or maybe just no time at the moment? If you did want to redo the setup would you shoot for a north of 500 number?
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