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BirdofPrey97
04-04-2012, 12:04 PM
Working with P.E.M. vendor named Randy for a group buy and the prices vary a bit between the AOD/M5R2 and the 4R70W due to the difference in the Slip Yoke prices.

Below is the information I was sent on the group buy.


Here is the information on the 3.5" Aluminum 1330 Drive Shafts for your group club buy.
item # description racerprice buy10 buy20




racerprice buy10 buy20
3.5" Aluminum Drive Shaft .114" wall
$299.00 $279.00 $250.00 AOD/M5R2 Slip Yoke
$62.95 $55.90 $53.00 4R70W Slip Yoke
$75.00 $71.25 $67.50

The drive shaft slip yokes will be installed and the assembly balanced. The parts used are
the same as the Ford Motorsports Driveshaft (OEM Quality). Please check the transmission
rear seal diameter for the slip yokes.

The U-Joints will be Neapco Performance Dynamics solid cross with Dura Lube and Alumigard
treatment on the caps.


Slip Yokes and U-Joints are provided by FRPP.


We can do a $ 30.00 Flat Shipping Rate price for UPS Ground in the US 48 states.
This is a little higher in 2012 because UPS added an over 60" long box surcharge and
most of these will probably be residential delivery.

We wold need approx. 10 days lead time to build these drive shafts and ship.


The $ will be sent to me with your shipping address and once at least 10 are made the question will be to see if people want to hold out for 20. I would like $150 deposit made. Dwolla or Paypal.

May 15th, sound like a good cut off date?

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BirdofPrey97
04-04-2012, 12:09 PM
Sorry guys trying to get it to let me list it similar to excel, but I am not succeeding. I put the PDF in there to help with viewing. Pick the Slip Yoke you need and add $30 to it for your price.

If we get 10
AOD/M5R2 $365 shipped.

4R70W $380.25

If we get 20

AOD/M5R2 $333.00

4R70W $347.50

Swanny
04-04-2012, 01:09 PM
Are they able to ship to Canada, and what would the shipping to Canada cost?

BirdofPrey97
04-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Are they able to ship to Canada, and what would the shipping to Canada cost?

Need the zip code/ postal code please.

Swanny
04-04-2012, 05:18 PM
is the postal code.

BirdofPrey97
04-05-2012, 10:47 AM
S6H 7N7 is the postal code.

Here is the response from the vendor:

UPS Standard - $ 64.31 Insured plus he will owe any Canadian Duties or
Taxes.

Ship To: MOOSE JAW, S6H7N7, CANADA Ship From: SAINT CLAIR, 63077, UNITED
STATES

Total Shipment Weight: 21 lbs. Customs Value: 367.00 USD

Residential UPS Account Number: 42w4v0 Number of Packages: 1 Duty Type:
03 - Low value Package Details Package DetailsPackage Actual Weight
Dimensions / Packaging Declared Value Notices
21 lbs. 64 x 5 x 5 in. /My Packaging $367 USD

schwalbe
04-05-2012, 10:59 AM
Just wondering, maybe I didnt see it. Whys this better then stock?

BirdofPrey97
04-05-2012, 11:07 AM
Just wondering, maybe I didnt see it. Whys this better then stock?

3.5" Aluminum 1330 Drive Shafts

Larger diamater and lighter. You can do a search on 1330 joints either here on the site or web and that will give you further info.

It is a different vendor than dynotech and cheaper and trying to get nailed down dynotechs weights to see how much lighter it is. Dynotech is not good at answering my direct questions about their product.

schwalbe
04-05-2012, 12:25 PM
So it will work better with the rearend having gears? And more power out of the motor? What kind of power will it be able to handle? Does it fit with the stock drive shaft loops?

BirdofPrey97
04-05-2012, 12:36 PM
So it will work better with the rearend having gears? And more power out of the motor? What kind of power will it be able to handle? Does it fit with the stock drive shaft loops?

I would suggest doing a search on these items. For brief answers:

1. Not sure what you are asking. The function of the part is the same as a stock part.

2. It is less rotating mass. That is where the HP and TQ gains would be. It doesn't increase what the engine is putting out, but allows less loss to the wheels.

3. HP will be able to handle around the 600hp mark with the 3.5 at 114 wall. If you need more the wall will need to be 125 and will cost more.

4. I am not aware of any stock loops inplace. None of my Birds have had them. The 3.5 will fit within the stock location without mods.

Again, feel free to search and this information is out there on the site.

Swanny
04-05-2012, 11:08 PM
So do I have this right if we get 10 buys?
Driveshaft $279
4R70W slip yoke +$71.25
Shipping +$64.31
Total = $414.56

That sounds reasonable. It would be ready to bolt-in, correct? Seems there isn't that much interest at the moment....?

BirdofPrey97
04-06-2012, 08:55 AM
So do I have this right if we get 10 buys?
Driveshaft $279
4R70W slip yoke +$71.25
Shipping +$64.31
Total = $414.56

That sounds reasonable. It would be ready to bolt-in, correct? Seems there isn't that much interest at the moment....?

Yes, that is correct on price, but you will have the USD $367.00 that will need the custom charge on top of it. These are a direct bolt in. This company is used by several of us that dirt track race and the driveshafts there take a lot more shock than what most of us will be doing with them. I have several PM's on this, but only a few orders. They are doing a driveshaft for me and the total weight of it was 16lbs for those that were asking.

schwalbe
04-06-2012, 11:13 AM
I would suggest doing a search on these items. For brief answers:

1. Not sure what you are asking. The function of the part is the same as a stock part.

2. It is less rotating mass. That is where the HP and TQ gains would be. It doesn't increase what the engine is putting out, but allows less loss to the wheels.

3. HP will be able to handle around the 600hp mark with the 3.5 at 114 wall. If you need more the wall will need to be 125 and will cost more.

4. I am not aware of any stock loops inplace. None of my Birds have had them. The 3.5 will fit within the stock location without mods.

Again, feel free to search and this information is out there on the site.

You have no cross over members on your car? Funny, all my cars have them from my 92 sport to my 91 sc or my 90 sc. The question was rather simple. The idea behind something might just be for a little better then stock or if it's made to handle 800+ monsters.

BirdofPrey97
04-06-2012, 11:32 AM
You have no cross over members on your car? Funny, all my cars have them from my 92 sport to my 91 sc or my 90 sc. The question was rather simple. The idea behind something might just be for a little better then stock or if it's made to handle 800+ monsters.

Sorry, when I read cross members that is different to many than a safety loop. When a safety loop is mentioned the NHRA requirments come to mind.

These driveshafts will handle drag racing with our cars up to 600hp. If you go over 600hp step up to the 1350 joints and the 125 wall that is good up to around 1000 hp.

David N is running the same mechanical driveshaft, but different manufacture just for a HP and setup reference.

schwalbe
04-06-2012, 11:52 AM
Sorry, when I read cross members that is different to many than a safety loop. When a safety loop is mentioned the NHRA requirments come to mind.

These driveshafts will handle drag racing with our cars up to 600hp. If you go over 600hp step up to the 1350 joints and the 125 wall that is good up to around 1000 hp.

David N is running the same mechanical driveshaft, but different manufacture just for a HP and setup reference.

I didn't mean to get so pissy. That was my question on the power level. It'd be a few weeks or a month before I can get the funds.

VicRattlehead
04-06-2012, 12:35 PM
T-45 ??????

BirdofPrey97
04-06-2012, 02:05 PM
I didn't mean to get so pissy. That was my question on the power level. It'd be a few weeks or a month before I can get the funds.

Keep asking questions. Others have them, they just don't post. :cool:

Swanny
04-06-2012, 04:56 PM
Are you going to post this at TCCoA too? Might be able to get more folks interested...??

Who is the vendor here, in other words if I have a problem with the shaft, who do I talk to?

Also, this would be a one-piece shaft, correct? Just want to be sure, I'm thinking it is...

XxSlowpokexX
04-07-2012, 12:43 PM
I'd be interested in this driveshaft . I just need to come up with the cash. It would need to handle quite a bit of hp

BirdofPrey97
04-07-2012, 05:14 PM
Are you going to post this at TCCoA too? Might be able to get more folks interested...??

Who is the vendor here, in other words if I have a problem with the shaft, who do I talk to?

Also, this would be a one-piece shaft, correct? Just want to be sure, I'm thinking it is...

1. TCCOA is not a place I post on. If someone wants to post a link feel free.

2. The vendor is P.E.M. as stated in the first post. The person I am working with is named Randy. His contact information will be sent to anyone who makes a purchase.

3. The shaft is 1 piece.

BirdofPrey97
04-07-2012, 05:16 PM
I'd be interested in this driveshaft . I just need to come up with the cash. It would need to handle quite a bit of hp

Again the shaft this was created for will handle upwards to the 600hp range if you want more than that there is the 1350 joints and 125 wall that can be purchased for $35 more for he shaft and then whatever the difference in joints is. I do not have the 1350 part numbers.

"quite a bit of hp" isn't specific enough for me to make a calls on. :)

VicRattlehead
04-07-2012, 06:02 PM
T-45 ??????

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BirdofPrey97
04-09-2012, 08:48 AM
??????????

If you have exact meaurements yes, it can be purchased. Let me know which slip yokes and what size of yoke and u-joints are wanted. Assuming 1330 unless told differently.

OxmanWI
04-10-2012, 04:14 PM
bump need some more people

Toms-SC
04-11-2012, 05:22 PM
People will wait until the last minute, it is just human nature. I'll be needing one of these but will have to talk to Dave to get specifics for my car. Thanks.

ganuolfthegrey
04-15-2012, 08:56 PM
will this work with 3:73 gears and a aod. if it will put me on the list.

BirdofPrey97
04-16-2012, 09:08 AM
will this work with 3:73 gears and a aod. if it will put me on the list.

Gears make no difference. As long as the tailshaft of the trans and rear diff are both stock these DS will work.

ganuolfthegrey
04-16-2012, 10:41 PM
the rear diff is not the stock one from my car. it's from another bird that had the gears already in it and just both pumpkin from another member.
the reason i ask is because on bill evanoff's page he says ya need a 4inch shaft for 3:73

BirdofPrey97
04-17-2012, 08:24 AM
the rear diff is not the stock one from my car. it's from another bird that had the gears already in it and just both pumpkin from another member.
the reason i ask is because on bill evanoff's page he says ya need a 4inch shaft for 3:73

Does he give specs on that 4 inch? Wall thickness, Joint sizes? Realize you are talking to a salesman when you read those posts. I just drive the cars and thought GB might help some. Other than having more of us on the road with a better drivetrain there is no benefit for me.

Maybe going through some of the guys that have higher HP cars and seeing if they street drive them or just race them and what they are using would help.?.? I run a 4 inch under my truck, but it is has the heaver joints, wall thickness, 8k lbs and is pushing that 1,000 ft/tq.

Pretty sure the for sale of the other driveshafts were 3.5. Unless requested to be ordered otherwise.

Wzenheimer
10-13-2012, 02:28 PM
Can this driveshaft and yoke still be had as a single order?

BirdofPrey97
10-15-2012, 12:31 PM
Can this driveshaft and yoke still be had as a single order?

Yes, they will make one for you. The price however I cannot say.

Wzenheimer
10-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Yes, they will make one for you. The price however I cannot say.

Can you PM me their contact info?

BirdofPrey97
10-19-2012, 02:51 PM
Can you PM me their contact info?

http://www.pemracing.com/contact.html