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BLOWN38
09-17-2012, 11:45 PM
Was in MI this past week for Marauderville and they rented Gingerman Raceway Gingerman Raceway (http://www.gingermanraceway.com/)

Was my first time on a road course, somewhat balls to the wall. Car did great, no problems out of her. I was only 1/2 to 3/4 throttle on the straights. Was worried about popping head gaskets as I've been under the car and seen them seeping. Brakes were hating it, another reason for no full throttle into the turns.

I had a blast and can't wait to do it again!:cool: Don't know why youtube has it looped. So a little after 10 minutes is the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKntXc8Dmco&list=UUEb27qP_zSCU7lNoi4YQkSQ&index=1&feature=plcp

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DrFishbone
09-18-2012, 09:59 AM
Awesome! I would love to try that sometime! Auto tossing is fun, but I'm thinking a road course would be much much more fun!

Super Duper Cou
09-18-2012, 12:05 PM
That's cool man! Nice video! I wanna take my bird around the road course one day. What kind of wheels and tires were you using?

BLOWN38
09-18-2012, 12:15 PM
Stock wheels with 225 60 16 bridgestone g019 grid's. I was happy with them. The car is bone stock besides the b&m shifter and flowmaster exhaust with cats.

There was a camera crew there. I had them put a go pro on the outside. So waiting on the dvd from them with pics and video.

91BLOWNBIRD
09-18-2012, 02:06 PM
I wish it was that easy here in CA :(

Ira R.
09-18-2012, 02:36 PM
Looks like you had fun!

Next you should use the automatic :p ;)

BLOWN38
09-18-2012, 03:02 PM
Looks like you had fun!

Next you should use the automatic :p ;)

No no... next I will put the AR on the 5 speed with a motor and tune I am confident with.:D And maybe the 17" wheels I got laying around too. And most definatly need some cobra brakes.

ricardoa1
09-18-2012, 03:05 PM
No no... next I will put the AR on the 5 speed with a motor and tune I am confident with.:D And maybe the 17" wheels I got laying around too. And most definatly need some cobra brakes.


Good cause looked like you were standing still. When cars were passing you. :p

BLOWN38
09-18-2012, 03:16 PM
The mustang that passed me creeped up on me during the warm up lap. So on the first lap I had to run away from him just to see if the car could, and it did. But the brakes didn't like it, I'm sure the 170k mile brake fluid didn't help:D. So I slowed down and just took the turns at speed. Once he passed me you can see I was hanging with him. But on the straights I let them all go, not to metion they all had at least 70 hp on me.:)

Plat0ribs
09-18-2012, 04:37 PM
I've been taking my 95 SHO out on road race tracks for about the last 4-5 years, over that time I've significantly upgraded brakes, suspension, swaybars, bushings, etc...

I've now got it where I can drive it all out and not break anything or fall off the track. It is without a doubt the most fun you can have with a well comported car. It also has a full interior and is not so radical it isn't comfortable driving around town or down the highway.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%202012/Carstuff002.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%202012/Carstuff001.jpg

My goal will be to do the same thing to a 91 SC roller, reman'd Dave Dalke Engine, 95 transmission, pristine interior, etc...

Ira R.
09-18-2012, 09:34 PM
3rd gear most of the way? Stock rear? Street tires too right? From the look of the tach you really weren't pushing it but boy did it look like fun.

BLOWN38
09-18-2012, 10:02 PM
3rd gear most of the way? Stock rear? Street tires too right? From the look of the tach you really weren't pushing it but boy did it look like fun.

Yup, yup and yup. Yeah I shifted to 4th at 4k rpm on the two long straights. Definatly was not pushing the accelerator hard. Temp gauge stayed at the N, but it was only 60 something degrees. I think I hit 90 mph and 12lbs of boost. Check engine light was coming on that day, go figure.:rolleyes: Think its got a vacuum leak.

BLOWN38
09-18-2012, 10:04 PM
I've been taking my 95 SHO out on road race tracks for about the last 4-5 years, over that time I've significantly upgraded brakes, suspension, swaybars, bushings, etc...

I've now got it where I can drive it all out and not break anything or fall off the track. It is without a doubt the most fun you can have with a well comported car. It also has a full interior and is not so radical it isn't comfortable driving around town or down the highway.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%202012/Carstuff002.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%202012/Carstuff001.jpg

My goal will be to do the same thing to a 91 SC roller, reman'd Dave Dalke Engine, 95 transmission, pristine interior, etc...

5 speed????

tehsilver95lx
10-03-2012, 05:51 PM
SO COOL. gran turismo got me into track racing:p i wish watkins glen would let people race as easily as gingerman did,i cant imagine how fun that must have been

EvilMooseofDoom
10-03-2012, 08:51 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%202012/Carstuff001.jpg



Liking the Cobra R clone in the background.

Also enjoying the SHO.

Before I bought my mom her T-bird in '99, we test-drove a 1995 SHO 5-speed at a different dealership.

I had the salesman clawing the dash with the 1-2-3 full-throttle run, with Mom laughing at the guy while she was sitting in the back seat.

I liked the SHO, but the car didn't 'feel' right. I got the T-bird instead, and then was rewarded with my efforts by suffering through a year and a half of electrical problems caused by the dying ECM with the 5.0 car.

Fun times.

fast Ed
10-04-2012, 09:55 AM
This is what I've been telling you guys for years ... road course action is way more fun that drag racing, especially if you don't have 500+ hp.


cheers
Ed

Mike Puckett
10-07-2012, 12:28 PM
I remember my weekend at Road Atlanta. I completely used up a set of EBC Yellow race pads running 100 laps. I was told to make sure my brakes were up to it and it was a good thing they were. If you can get an instructor to ride with you and give you input, it really helps. I hoping to run Road Atlanta again.

BLOWN38
10-07-2012, 01:10 PM
I will definatly stick to short courses for now.

I'll have to try summit point some time next year.

820
10-30-2012, 05:28 PM
sure beats just turning left

BLOWN38
01-29-2013, 11:24 PM
Here are some stills.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_2116_zps192589d0.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_1549_zps235a894a.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_1499_zps3823436c.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_1449_zps9b17ff27.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_1386_zps5b2b0d39.jpg

superdadsc
01-30-2013, 09:12 AM
Nice pic's! She looks flat in the corners. These cars handle well for their weight. They never cease to amaze me!:D

ricardoa1
01-30-2013, 09:35 AM
Nice, center cap fail though.

neverfastenough
01-30-2013, 09:36 AM
wheres the tire smoke and hot chicks?

BLOWN38
01-30-2013, 10:25 AM
Nice pic's! She looks flat in the corners. These cars handle well for their weight. They never cease to amaze me!:D

Flat in the corner, that's what I was thinking too.

Yeah I took took the caps out cause they my good ones and I didn't want the wheels to flex and have them pop off.;)

This car has no power... yet.:D Its the step child. And actually when it started raining I was gonna start drifting it, but didn't know if they would be unhappy with me.

Scott Long
02-08-2013, 05:54 AM
Gingerman is 25 minutes from where I grew up. I've been there with the Chicago Ferrari club before.

Seeing as how its so close to where my SC's are stored, I'd like to get out there with my 92 5-speed sometime this summer. I will be sure to bring an extra set of brake pads and rotors.

CougarXR/7
02-09-2013, 11:04 PM
Another Thunderbird doing track time?.SWEEET! I thought I was the only one driving HPDE's with my Super Coupe five speed. My 94' sees track time this year.

Scott Long
02-10-2013, 01:59 AM
this looks like too much fun not to try.

Mike Puckett
02-10-2013, 10:24 AM
I now have 2 tracks to choose from here with Chin Motorsports. They also run at the new Atlanta Motorsports Park near Dawsonville in North GA. I'm not sure if I'll run again this year but if not, next year for sure. They have both one day and two day events and it costs about $800-$900 including gasoline and instructor for a two day event.

Scott Long
02-10-2013, 10:42 AM
Thats the downside, its expensive. Gingerman has "test and tune" night where you can run on the track and its really cheap especially when compared to driving school events where you pay for instruction and track time.

TbirdSCFan
02-11-2013, 11:46 PM
Or possibly like this. :cool:

Plat0ribs
02-12-2013, 02:01 PM
it is indeed a 5 speed, I really wouldn't want to take an SHO with autotragic out on a road race course, unless I intended changing it over to MTX after it blew.

"Green" has 11.6 brakes around, Quaife ATB (auto torque biasing) differential, new suspension, bushings, braces, Gen 3 front subframe, Gen 3 ZF Rack, and a few other suspension improvements.

It's currently got 90K miles and serving DD duty this winter due to my 89 blowing HG last week.

I'm building an SC for the same purpose, highway cruiser capable of road racing without falling off the track or breaking.

Very much want to try Gingerman and Road America in Sheboygan... :)

The 95 SHO were much more squishy than the Gen1's but with a little bit of this... one can bring them around.

CougarXR/7
11-10-2013, 01:12 PM
I drove at Gingerman during Memorial Day weekend and the end of season Halloween event in the 94' SC. I have given thoughts of stripping out my 92' SC a find a cheap trailer and tow it there to Road Course at Midwest area tracks. I want to drive a HPDE at Blackhawk Farms......I am thinking of returning to Autobahn in 14' as well.

Pat DiPersia
11-11-2013, 01:05 PM
I used to run at Pocono's road track all the time. Best time you can have! Definitely have an instructor run with you, if available, like Mike said. Invaluable for the first few times out to understand what you're doing right and wrong.

ALWAYS remove center caps! Good man.

I stopped because it was just getting too expensive and I can't see blowing this car up (And I didn't have a way to get it home 100 miles away if something did happen.) I was going through tires and brakes like crazy. Plus (Unlike you), I was trying to push the throttle through the firewall. I would see 120 MPH at the end of the back bowl before it was time to turn in. I'm sure my clutch also hates me, so. . . And I ran hot, so that was another concern.

IF you need a good brake options, check out www.porterfield-brakes.com. They were outstanding, but you definitely don't want these on the car if you're driving it on the road normally. First few times you try to stop, you won't.

Also check out www.ate-na.com for brake fluid. I boiled my fluid a few times until I switched to this.

No helmets required?!?!?!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17520956/SCCoA/Pocono%20Sign.jpg

kenewagner
11-11-2013, 01:56 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17520956/SCCoA/Pocono%20Sign.jpg


Be a cool picture on the Midwest Calendar

Ken

BLOWN38
11-11-2013, 02:10 PM
And all this time I thought that car just went to carlisle and back.:D:cool:

Pat DiPersia
11-11-2013, 02:48 PM
Yeh, unfortunately, all I have a print of that photo. I scanned it, so it's not very good quality.

And no, that car was a daily driver for about three years, of which it saw a few trips to Pocono before I realized if I blew it up, it would be hard to get to work Monday morning! So then I got a SHO, keep beating on the SC until I threw in the (money) towel.

Someday I'll get back into it, but probably with a better car. Don't get me wrong, the SC was great and I really enjoyed it, but that is simply not a great track car! Too heavy!

sarahthomas
08-07-2015, 03:45 AM
Ohhh I really love that red car wish I have one for me.

CougarXR/7
10-04-2015, 09:41 PM
I don't understand why more people don't Road Course their SC's......................BOTH my SC's have seen Track time.

Mike Puckett
10-05-2015, 08:03 AM
It's too expensive for me. It costs me about $1000 total for a 2 day track day weekend with Chin Motorsports.

FrankenBird
10-11-2015, 11:20 PM
gotta pay to play...the drag strip around here is pretty cheap..
id love to do a road course..
that black bird above looks saweeeet.