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Trunk Monkey
01-10-2013, 01:36 AM
Rob knocking very hard on the 9 second barrier!

I didn't spend a great deal of time putting this video together but I hope you enjoy!

Regards,

Ron

PS - Look for the Easter egg at the end...


- Fayetteville, NC Dragway -
January 5, 2013

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David Neibert
01-10-2013, 03:24 PM
Nice launch ! Do you know what the stall setting is on that converter ? I'm guessing at least 4500 :eek:

David

Toms-SC
01-10-2013, 08:07 PM
Dannng that car ain't no bull.

Trunk Monkey
01-10-2013, 08:24 PM
Nice launch ! Do you know what the stall setting is on that converter ? I'm guessing at least 4500 :eek:

David

I don't know David. You'll have to ask Robert. I want to say 3,800 to 4,200 RPM - same as mine.

He's heading back to the track this Saturday to try again. I'm sure he'll get a good 9 second run this weekend. He was working on dialing in the tune and shift points last weekend.

Unfortunately I won't be there to shoot video.

Yea Toms, he's put a lot of work into that car. It dynoed at 735 RWHP! :eek:

kenewagner
01-10-2013, 08:29 PM
Fast car but come on, no helmet, or safety equipment. Thats not smart

Ken

Trunk Monkey
01-10-2013, 08:35 PM
I know. We've had that discussion.

I agree with you. He should at least wear a helmet.

nickleman60
01-10-2013, 08:50 PM
Fast car but come on, no helmet, or safety equipment. Thats not smart

Ken

Enough said................

XxSlowpokexX
01-11-2013, 03:05 PM
Id at least wear a helmet. Bottomline though is not everyone wanst to tear up there interior to instal a cage and various other things

820
01-11-2013, 09:53 PM
i am surprised that he is allowed to even get near that track with no safety equipment, thats what gives racers a bad name. that and street racing.

XxSlowpokexX
01-12-2013, 04:08 PM
i am surprised that he is allowed to even get near that track with no safety equipment, thats what gives racers a bad name. that and street racing.

If someone wants to risk killing themselves If they have a crazy crash I feel that is up to them. As far as street racing ther eis what I call wreckless driving where you race on a highway or on roads with populations and other drivers. Think fast and furioius. Or at those dammed illegal street races where teh only people there are the ones participating or watching. In the latter of teh two everyone knows the risk and Im ok with it. The fast and teh furious..Which is almost what you always hear about..No

nickleman60
01-12-2013, 09:49 PM
If someone wants to risk killing themselves If they have a crazy crash I feel that is up to them. As far as street racing ther eis what I call wreckless driving where you race on a highway or on roads with populations and other drivers. Think fast and furioius. Or at those dammed illegal street races where teh only people there are the ones participating or watching. In the latter of teh two everyone knows the risk and Im ok with it. The fast and teh furious..Which is almost what you always hear about..No

People might debate on a the need of a rollbar but no helmet is just pure STUPIDITY!!!!!

CMac89
01-13-2013, 11:18 AM
People might debate on a the need of a rollbar but no helmet is just pure STUPIDITY!!!!!

Cages, helmets, and harnesses each complement the other. If he were to roll that car without a rollbar and harness (using factory seat belts), but still has a helmet on, he is risking fatal injuries. Your neck can still break even with a helmet on. If you have a helmet and a cage, without a harness, you still risk being ejected from a seated position subjecting your neck and other parts of your body to serious damage. If you had a harness and a helmet only, you risk the roof collapsing on your head and windshields/windows have an increased possibility of shattering and injuring the driver.

If you have all three, you're good.

pbdevastator
01-13-2013, 01:13 PM
tracks around me, you will get kicked out if you do a run under 13 seconds with no helmet, and i believe under 11.5 seconds with no roll cage.

820
01-13-2013, 07:58 PM
Just seeing that posted sends the wrong message. I too don't care if he dosn't care enough about his own safety to do the responsible thing, but what about the racer that may be in the other lane? I know i would'nt race him. Street racing and reckless driving are not what the law calls the same thing. Its irresponsible to make a pass like that on the part of all parties involved. kenewagner, nickleman60, Cmac89 i agree.

Kevin Leitem
01-13-2013, 08:25 PM
Very cool car indeed, very impressive too. I too don't agree with the lack of safety, but if this was on a non sanctioned ihra or nhra track then the lack of safety doesn't matter. Its run at your own risk. And the other people in the other lane would be aware of this run at your own risk too. But if it was on a sanctioned track i don't think the track would be happy with a video out showing their lack of rule following. They very easily could lose their nhra/ihra backing.

nickleman60
01-13-2013, 08:52 PM
But if it was on a sanctioned track i don't think the track would be happy with a video out showing their lack of rule following. They very easily could lose their nhra/ihra backing.

It's a IHRA sanctioned track according to it's homepage.

http://www.fayettevillemotorsportspark.com/index.html

kenewagner
01-13-2013, 08:58 PM
It's a IHRA sanctioned track according to it's homepage.

http://www.fayettevillemotorsportspark.com/index.html

So how does he run at a IHRA section track without any safety requirements met???

Kevin Leitem
01-13-2013, 09:06 PM
So how does he run at a IHRA section track without any safety requirements met???

People at the track don't care I would guess

Kevin Leitem
01-13-2013, 09:09 PM
At Cecil my belts were expired and almost wasn't able to run.

David Neibert
01-14-2013, 12:46 PM
Just seeing that posted sends the wrong message. I too don't care if he dosn't care enough about his own safety to do the responsible thing, but what about the racer that may be in the other lane? I know i would'nt race him. Street racing and reckless driving are not what the law calls the same thing. Its irresponsible to make a pass like that on the part of all parties involved.

It may well be unsafe for the driver, but having a certified cage, window net, 5 point harnes, fire jacket and a helmet isn't going to do anything to protect the "racer that may be in the other lane". About the only mandated safety equipment at this ET & Speed that would potentially protect the driver in the next lane, is a driveshaft loop.

David

Kevin Leitem
01-14-2013, 01:42 PM
It may well be unsafe for the driver, but having a certified cage, window net, 5 point harnes, fire jacket and a helmet isn't going to do anything to protect the "racer that may be in the other lane". About the only mandated safety equipment at this ET & Speed that would potentially protect the driver in the next lane, is a driveshaft loop.

David

Ok, say you get loose hit your near wall hard, but without safety equipment you get knocked out, now you are unconscious and heading across track. Now how does that not affect someone in the other lane. The safety is there for a reason, either comply or stay off the track. Plain and simple.

Trunk Monkey
01-14-2013, 02:04 PM
People might debate on a the need of a rollbar but no helmet is just pure STUPIDITY!!!!!
Cages, helmets, and harnesses each complement the other. If he were to roll that car without a rollbar and harness (using factory seat belts), but still has a helmet on, he is risking fatal injuries. Your neck can still break even with a helmet on. If you have a helmet and a cage, without a harness, you still risk being ejected from a seated position subjecting your neck and other parts of your body to serious damage. If you had a harness and a helmet only, you risk the roof collapsing on your head and windshields/windows have an increased possibility of shattering and injuring the driver.

If you have all three, you're good.

Dale Earnhart had a harness, a helmet and a cage.

Dan Weldon had a harness, a helmet and a cage.

So did most of these people (http://dragstripdeaths.webs.com/).

Some would say racing itself is stupid but we do it any way.

Why take the chance at all? I/we could just sit at home in my/our pajamas sipping coffee watching football on TV which is much safer than racing. But I/we choose to race. We all take chances aware of the consequences.

It's written all over the liability waver that we all sign when we enter a track. Have any of you ever really read one of those?

Having said that yes, I agree he should wear a helmet for his own safety. However, he's an adult and can make that decision for himself. Also, in both of those passes there was NO car in the other lane. This was a Test-N-Tune event not a sanctioned race event where the rules are much more stringently enforced.

When it's your time it's your time and no amount of safety equipment is going to change that.

David Neibert
01-14-2013, 03:53 PM
Ok, say you get loose hit your near wall hard, but without safety equipment you get knocked out, now you are unconscious and heading across track. Now how does that not affect someone in the other lane. The safety is there for a reason, either comply or stay off the track. Plain and simple.

Kevin,

That's not a scenario I had considered.

David

CMac89
01-14-2013, 04:10 PM
Dale Earnhart had a harness, a helmet and a cage.

Dan Weldon had a harness, a helmet and a cage.

So did most of these people (http://dragstripdeaths.webs.com/).

Some would say racing itself is stupid but we do it any way.

Why take the chance at all? I/we could just sit at home in my/our pajamas sipping coffee watching football on TV which is much safer than racing. But I/we choose to race. We all take chances aware of the consequences.

It's written all over the liability waver that we all sign when we enter a track. Have any of you ever really read one of those?

Having said that yes, I agree he should wear a helmet for his own safety. However, he's an adult and can make that decision for himself. Also, in both of those passes there was NO car in the other lane. This was a Test-N-Tune event not a sanctioned race event where the rules are much more stringently enforced.

When it's your time it's your time and no amount of safety equipment is going to change that.

Life is all about p-values. It isn't a question of when it happens, it's if and how it happens. We all take risks, but we do it in a way so there is a lower probability of fatal injuries. Every year, the rules become more strict for those reasons.

An ounce of prevention is a pound of cure. One's own arrogance can determine their fate (and not just by the grim reaper) if that saying isn't cherished.

MadMikeyL
01-14-2013, 04:45 PM
Ok, say you get loose hit your near wall hard, but without safety equipment you get knocked out, now you are unconscious and heading across track. Now how does that not affect someone in the other lane. The safety is there for a reason, either comply or stay off the track. Plain and simple.

You really think if you lose control and hit the wall hard enough that it would knock out a driver without a helmet, that with a helmet you would have the reaction time, or presence of mind, or even the driving skill to regain control of the car? I think not! In that situation you proposed, everything is going to happen much faster than you can react, and if the car is bouncing back across into the other lane, no helmet or cage is going to stop that from happening.

As Trunk Monkey said, the man is an adult and can make his own decisions about what risks he takes. I'm sure none of you would appreciate it if some foolish decision in your past came to light and everyone on the boards railed on you for it. How many of you have ever driven on the street without your seat-belt on? How many of you have ever ridden in a 50s or 60s car at all? How many of you have ever jacked up a car and not used a jack-stand? How many of you have ever ridden a motorcycle? How many of you have ever gone skydiving or scuba diving? All of these are things that many people do on a regular basis, and are all things that could reasonably be considered more risky than driving a purpose-built car in a straight line under controlled conditions at 130mph. The man built a street-driven high 9/low 10 second tbird. That should be what this thread is about, not ragging on him for not wearing a helmet!

1MTNCAT
01-14-2013, 08:52 PM
You really think if you lose control and hit the wall hard enough that it would knock out a driver without a helmet, that with a helmet you would have the reaction time, or presence of mind, or even the driving skill to regain control of the car? I think not!

You got that part right, you THINK NOT!!!

If you are unconscious you are going to think nothing. If you are concious most are going to attempt to gain enough control to stop. Period!!!

We've been through this before and I'm not going there again BUT, there is a reason for safety equipment on the track just as Kevin and some of the others have stated.

I only hope no one finds out for sure just WHY it is required!! And you're correct, we're all adults so its their choices.

As far as controlled environment, yeah right. Don't know how many I've seen ping pong off a wall, go completely sideways, or flip upside down over the years. Its controlled only in the fact there are medical personnel there. If you're dead they aren't going to matter. If you are hurt they may be able to help.

I have no problem with the car, the times or anything else so thats not the issue. I'd just like to see them safe.

Thats my 2 cents for what its worth.

90tbirdsc
01-14-2013, 09:59 PM
I agree with some of the other people on here, you take your own risk. Will a cage,helmet and seat/harness make the car safer? Yes. Can you still be seriously injured or dead? Yes. Could you hit the wall at 130 and walk away? Possibly but going 100+ generally isint safe anywhere but we all choose to do it. Just like if you ride motorcycles you know the risk but you ride anyways because you love it.
On another note,
I'm surprised the track let him run that fast with no safety equipment but oh well having a bunch of people online rant on it isint going to change the fact that he did it or still might be doing it.

That's just my .02

820
01-14-2013, 10:33 PM
Consider this, what if that track loses its IHRA sanctioning because this was posted on the internet? It looks like a nice track and thats getting harded and harder to find. Goes back to what i first posted, this is what gives racers a bad rep.

tehsilver95lx
01-17-2013, 07:11 PM
BUT ABOUT THAT *FULL* WEIGHT SC'D 4.6:rolleyes: good job! now build my sc?:p (budget..$42.50) ;)

David Neibert
01-18-2013, 02:16 PM
this is what gives racers a bad rep

The only racers that have a bad rep, are street racers. Most of those guys aren't even racers, they are dumb kids.

David