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tehsilver95lx
04-13-2013, 06:10 PM
Post it up if you Road Race,Auto Cross or participate in SCCA type events.

Please list-

Year/Make/Model/Motor.

Forced/Natural asperation.

Hp/Tq.

Transmission.(gear ratios/clutch/fly wheel) Ect..

Rear end set up.(gears,differentials) Ect..

Tires/Rims.(sizes,friction/wear rating) Ect..

Brakes set up.(rotors,pads,calipers,fluid) Ect..

Suspension set up. (springs,struts,control arms *upper,lower* sway bars,electronicly controlled or not,bushings) Ect..

Chassis modifications.

Aerodynamic modifications.

Weight reduction.

Videos/Pictures.

Best times.

Track name/Event/Compitition.

Feel free to include anything i missed:rolleyes::D

MadMikeyL
04-13-2013, 07:18 PM
Year/Make/Model/Motor. 1989 Mercury Cougar XR7 with explorer 5.0

Forced/Natural asperation. NA

Hp/Tq. Approx 230hp, maybe 300ft-lb

Transmission.(gear ratios/clutch/fly wheel) Early M5r2

Rear end set up.(gears,differentials) 3.27tl

Tires/Rims.(sizes,friction/wear rating) 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s on 17x9 cobra wheels.

Brakes set up.(rotors,pads,calipers,fluid) Cobra rotors front and rear, twin piston pbr calipers up front, stock 94 tbird rear calipers relocated to clear cobra rotors, hawk racing blue front pads, ebc yellow stuff rears.

Suspension set up. Tokicko blue front shocks, bilstein rears, stock SC sway bars and springs with 1-1.5 coils cut off

Chassis modifications. Full cage, rear shock tower brace, lower engine cradle braces welded in, rear lower control arm brace.

Aerodynamic modifications. 4 spoilers and a pair of pistons bolted to the roof.

Weight reduction. Extensive weight reduction. Car probably weighs around 3000 pounds now.

Videos/Pictures. I'll get back to you on this one when I'm on my home computer.

Best times. Hit 140mph on the straight at nj motorsports park.

Track name/Event/Compitition. 24 hours of lemons.

tehsilver95lx
04-13-2013, 07:51 PM
Videos/Pictures. I'll get back to you on this one when I'm on my home computer.

do it up!!:) is aftermarket forced induction allowed in lemons races?

MadMikeyL
04-13-2013, 10:07 PM
Technically yes, but you are only allowed to spend $500 on the car not counting safety equipment, so that pretty much rules out any aftermarket kit. I may try to make something to bolt an m90 on it though.

tehsilver95lx
04-15-2013, 12:43 PM
Technically yes, but you are only allowed to spend $500 on the car not counting safety equipment, so that pretty much rules out any aftermarket kit. I may try to make something to bolt an m90 on it though.

hmm interesting haha,where are the promised pics!!:rolleyes:

MadMikeyL
04-15-2013, 02:19 PM
I'm at work now, so I don't have all the pics, but here are a few that I had on photobucket.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/BlenderheadNJ/2b7e699e.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/BlenderheadNJ/media/2b7e699e.jpg.html)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/BlenderheadNJ/143611c4.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/BlenderheadNJ/media/143611c4.jpg.html)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/BlenderheadNJ/a2fd8b96.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/BlenderheadNJ/media/a2fd8b96.jpg.html)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/BlenderheadNJ/41a58b40.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/BlenderheadNJ/media/41a58b40.jpg.html)

Also, here is a thread on the car on TCCoA, which also has a couple videos in there.
http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=134681&highlight=epic+fail+racing

Mercutio
04-15-2013, 10:22 PM
Car may be a little different in some pics based on mods and date.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/featheredmafia/The%20Red%20Car/043.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/featheredmafia/The%20Red%20Car/026.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/featheredmafia/The%20Red%20Car/61.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/featheredmafia/The%20Red%20Car/087.jpg

I ran the car in the SCCA's Street Mod solo class. I ran it on Hoosier A6 tires, it weighed around 3540 at the time, and made 355 or so hp to the wheels. I quit racing it because a) I killed the engine, and b) it was and never will be competitive. It's now down to 3,430 pounds and 377 rwhp, but that's still way, way too heavy and underpowered for that class. I now run a 99 Z28 in the ESP class (or I will when I repair it...at the moment I'm in an ES MR2).

I have a ton of mods. If you have questions, let me know.

EDIT: oh yeah, forgot I have a video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLRcOoaB1k

BLOWN38
04-15-2013, 11:05 PM
I ran the 94 5 speed one time at Gingerman Raceway in MI. Car is bone stock with bridgestone G019 tires. Elcheapo brakes that faded bad. Check engine light was on so I didn't run it hard either. Turned out to be the IAT plug was loose. I had fun tho.

I'm gonna put some 17's on her soon with some 13" brakes and try to get out there again sometime.

For some reason youtube looped the video. Its really only 10 minutes.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/IMG_2116_zps192589d0.jpg

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tehsilver95lx
04-17-2013, 05:27 PM
Car may be a little different in some pics based on mods and date. I have a ton of mods. If you have questions, let me know.

Ok,those were 18's right,what profile? what was your drop ? (lowering springs?):)

BLOWN38 I love that vid,actually inspired this thread,killin it in firm ride???:p

MadMikeyL haha always loved the lemons look:rolleyes:

Mercutio
04-17-2013, 10:07 PM
Ok,those were 18's right,what profile? what was your drop ? (lowering springs?):)


Nope. 275/40-17. Started out on Eibach springs, then went to ST rears cut 3/4 coil and custom front coilovers w/600 lb-in springs.

tehsilver95lx
04-19-2013, 06:11 PM
Nope. 245/45-17. Started out on Eibach springs, then went to ST rears cut 3/4 coil and custom front coilovers w/600 lb-in springs.

Oh word,nice! what do you think of qa1 coil overs for our cars? :)

Mercutio
04-19-2013, 09:28 PM
QA1 doesn't make an especially good shock in my opinion. I got a set of the QA1 coilovers from the group buy years back (2007?), and the Konis I've got now are much better.

However, since the Koni and Bilstein are both discontinued for the MN12, I think there aren't any good shock options, and people just need to go with whatever's available, unfortunately. QA1s are probably as good as anything else currently available for our cars.

tehsilver95lx
04-20-2013, 01:41 PM
QA1 doesn't make an especially good shock in my opinion. I got a set of the QA1 coilovers from the group buy years back (2007?), and the Konis I've got now are much better.

However, since the Koni and Bilstein are both discontinued for the MN12, I think there aren't any good shock options, and people just need to go with whatever's available, unfortunately. QA1s are probably as good as anything else currently available for our cars.

also ..how do you feel about ARC compared to regular suspension? like Tokico Illumina Electronic Adjustable Shocks look good with some Vogtland 1.6" Lowering Spring (which will probably be cut to 2" all around) to accompany ?

Mercutio
04-20-2013, 09:45 PM
also ..how do you feel about ARC compared to regular suspension? like Tokico Illumina Electronic Adjustable Shocks look good with some Vogtland 1.6" Lowering Spring (which will probably be cut to 2" all around) to accompany ?

Again, there are so few shock options left for our cars that this combo is probably as good as anything currently available.

tehsilver95lx
04-21-2013, 12:22 PM
True true,but you have no prefrence of ARC over regular?

Mercutio
04-21-2013, 08:21 PM
True true,but you have no prefrence of ARC over regular?

I have no experience with ARC shocks. My SC had Konis on it when I bought it.

tehsilver95lx
04-22-2013, 12:45 PM
So how is the acceptance of scca? Is it hard to get on a track? How about membership costs and such?

MadMikeyL
04-22-2013, 01:26 PM
also ..how do you feel about ARC compared to regular suspension? like Tokico Illumina Electronic Adjustable Shocks look good with some Vogtland 1.6" Lowering Spring (which will probably be cut to 2" all around) to accompany ?

The ARC really won't have any effect on a track, as it will always be in firm ride mode, assuming your ARC system is working effectively. That being said, the Tokico Illumina Adjustables, in their firm setting, are probably the stiffest shock that is still available for our cars, and is definitely much stiffer than the tokico blues.

As for springs, for a road-course car, I would reccomend either some H&Rs, or just cut factory SC springs, as they will both be stiffer than the Vogtlands.

Mercutio
04-22-2013, 01:28 PM
Easiest way to start racing with SCCA is autocrossing. Locally, you may do just fine, depending how many people are in your class. Nationally, though, the MN12 is never going to be a winner.

I don't do any SCCA road racing, so I can't speak much to that. Time trials would be a decent way to get started, though. The SCCA's website has plenty of info on what's required for various levels of racing (car prep, etc.) Many other clubs also have HPDEs/track days where you can have an instructor ride with you. Clubs like BMWCCA and PCA often allow other makes into events if they don't fill up with BMWs/Porsches first.

tehsilver95lx
04-22-2013, 02:56 PM
The ARC really won't have any effect on a track, as it will always be in firm ride mode, assuming your ARC system is working effectively. That being said, the Tokico Illumina Adjustables, in their firm setting, are probably the stiffest shock that is still available for our cars, and is definitely much stiffer than the tokico blues.

As for springs, for a road-course car, I would reccomend either some H&Rs, or just cut factory SC springs, as they will both be stiffer than the Vogtlands.

what is the model # for h&r's,whats the drop?

tehsilver95lx
04-22-2013, 02:58 PM
Easiest way to start racing with SCCA is autocrossing. Locally, you may do just fine, depending how many people are in your class. Nationally, though, the MN12 is never going to be a winner.

I don't do any SCCA road racing, so I can't speak much to that. Time trials would be a decent way to get started, though. The SCCA's website has plenty of info on what's required for various levels of racing (car prep, etc.) Many other clubs also have HPDEs/track days where you can have an instructor ride with you. Clubs like BMWCCA and PCA often allow other makes into events if they don't fill up with BMWs/Porsches first.

autocross dosent really intrest me haha,but more road racing...and hey you never know !

fast Ed
04-22-2013, 08:53 PM
When I first had my 95 SC on track a few times, it was with Eibach springs and Tokico Illumina 2 ARC shocks. It wasn't bad, but you could feel that the damping wasn't stiff enough really. Stepped up to Konis, much better.


cheers
Ed

TwoToneThunder
04-23-2013, 01:47 PM
I have no experience with ARC shocks. My SC had Konis on it when I bought it.

Will have you ever thought about selling your sc? It's always been one of my favorites

Plat0ribs
04-23-2013, 03:07 PM
Will have you ever thought about selling your sc? It's always been one of my favorites

Mercutio's SC is indeed a loaded plate, very clean road racer.

I have run a number of HPDE's with the SHOForum clubs.
95 Taurus SHO MTX w/Quaife TBD & Solid subrame bushings w/extreme motormounts, monroe sensatracs with cut eibach's & 11.6 brakes on all four corners, 24 front/26 rear swaybars, Gen3 Subframe, ZF rack (tighter steering), Intrax adjustable rear control arms, H-brace, new bushings throughout.

Because of all the fun I had driving: Grattan near Grand Rapids, Waterford Hills in Detroit, Joliet Autobahn, New Hampshire Motor Speedway, Brainard Int. Raceway, etc... I decided to build an SC that I could run on a track and not break.

I've pretty much assembled everything to build a modest SC. Hoping to have it ready for next season.

SHO @ NHMS
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%20at%20the%20Track/SHO_CONVENTION_09350.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/Platoribs/media/Green%20at%20the%20Track/SHO_CONVENTION_09350.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Green%20at%20the%20Track/SHO_CONVENTION_09275.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/Platoribs/media/Green%20at%20the%20Track/SHO_CONVENTION_09275.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Platoribs/Mean%20Green%20Garage%20Queen/GreenieBlackGoldbig.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/Platoribs/media/Mean%20Green%20Garage%20Queen/GreenieBlackGoldbig.jpg.html)

Mercutio
04-23-2013, 10:45 PM
Will have you ever thought about selling your sc? It's always been one of my favorites

I appreciate the compliment, but I have no need or desire to sell it. There's just something about that car that suits me.

tehsilver95lx
04-25-2013, 10:21 PM
Haha i'd definitely buy Mercutio's car if he was selling:D

Mercutio
04-26-2013, 11:39 AM
Haha i'd definitely buy Mercutio's car if he was selling:D

It's nice to know people are lining up for the opportunity.

Remember, tires are a huge part of road race/autoX.

Once my current tires wear out (they've been on the car since 12/07), I might try some 285/40-17s at all 4 corners because I'm not pleased with the current crop of tires available in 255/45.

TwoToneThunder
04-26-2013, 10:39 PM
I call dibs

Mercutio
04-27-2013, 12:00 AM
Actually, Toms-SC asked for dibs back in Oct 2008. But again, I have no plans to sell.

tehsilver95lx
04-27-2013, 11:59 AM
you know who's car would be perfect for road racing ? 95badbird on tccoa,its all stripped down...just needs a 6 speed ;)

Super Duper Cou
04-29-2013, 03:57 PM
I autocrossed my 1993 Thunderbird SC for the first time yesterday with my buddy who was in his 1997 v6 mustang. The tires, brakes, and suspension on my car are all stock. It makes 328rwhp and 424rwtq. My buddies mustang just has a cold air intake, dual exhaust, lowering springs, adjustable struts, and a posi with lower gears. My best time was a 45.1 to his 45.5. Had a blast until my car starting spewing out anti freeze and tranny fluid. lol

Here is a video of me autocrossing my sc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRvmlaFNkd4

tehsilver95lx
04-29-2013, 05:31 PM
I autocrossed my 1993 Thunderbird SC for the first time yesterday with my buddy who was in his 1997 v6 mustang. The tires, brakes, and suspension on my car are all stock. It makes 328rwhp and 424rwtq. My buddies mustang just has a cold air intake, dual exhaust, lowering springs, adjustable struts, and a posi with lower gears. My best time was a 45.1 to his 45.5. Had a blast until my car starting spewing out anti freeze and tranny fluid. lol

Here is a video of me autocrossing my sc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRvmlaFNkd4

why is that? lol and whats with your exhaust ?http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/~~~.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Mercutio
04-29-2013, 05:31 PM
Had a blast until my car starting spewing out anti freeze and tranny fluid. lol


At higher grip levels the power steering fluid starts getting really, really hot. These cars have a very slow rack and require a lot of steering wheel motion to turn. I'd seriously recommend anyone who wants to do AX on race tires, or long-ish open track sessions on any tires, to invest in a large power steering cooler.

Super Duper Cou
04-29-2013, 06:05 PM
why is that? lol and whats with your exhaust ?http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/~~~.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

The headgaskets leak air into the coolant system and pushes the antifreeze out of the over flow. Tranny fluid shot out of the dipstick tube. The top of first gear squeals so I think the tranny is going away. What's wrong with my exhaust?

tehsilver95lx
04-29-2013, 06:41 PM
The headgaskets leak air into the coolant system and pushes the antifreeze out of the over flow. Tranny fluid shot out of the dipstick tube. The top of first gear squeals so I think the tranny is going away. What's wrong with my exhaust?

nothing if you like it! (not tryin to piss you off:confused:) maybe its the camera distorting sound, i personally do not prefer that tone of exhaust

Super Duper Cou
04-29-2013, 07:16 PM
nothing if you like it! (not tryin to piss you off:confused:) maybe its the camera distorting sound, i personally do not prefer that tone of exhaust

No worries, just wondering what you meant. It has kook midlength headers, no cats, and true dual 2 1/2" exhaust with magna flow mufflers. It kind of sounds like a tractor. lol

tehsilver95lx
04-29-2013, 07:24 PM
No worries, just wondering what you meant. It has kook midlength headers, no cats, and true dual 2 1/2" exhaust with magna flow mufflers. It kind of sounds like a tractor. lol

The Bitches do like tractors...;):D

CougarXR/7
07-20-2013, 07:09 PM
Drive it like Ford intended.

quick35th
09-02-2013, 05:00 PM
Not a SC but still good. Me in my other car.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sf-zdiw1tlQ

And the last video of my SC

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOMtK703VXI

Shane

CougarXR/7
11-23-2014, 11:48 AM
Okay...I've driving both GMR and BFR.......I admit I do prefer BFR more than GMR..........I may drive an early event at gingerman in April 2015.6250462505