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Rick_Leuce
12-05-2013, 03:37 PM
Hi all.

The new 2015 Ford Mustang was revealed today early in the morning and I wanted to see what we all thought about it.

No news on the 0-60, quarter mile or MPG yet but I'd imagine them to be about the same (maybe better if the car is lightened enough)

I heard the new Mustang might get Independent Rear Suspension, or at least replaced the Live Rear Axle.

All I got are pics from the internet, nothing special.

I think it looks like the 2013 Mustang mixed with a Toyota Camry or something, It looks aggressive but doesn't have the touch of class the 2013-14 had.

KMT
12-05-2013, 03:48 PM
http://jalopnik.com/the-one-tweak-to-the-2015-ford-mustang-that-will-change-1476575767

http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-ford-mustang-is-the-most-advanced-muscle-car-e-1476612775

http://jalopnik.com/ford-benchmarked-the-porsche-911-and-bmw-m3-for-the-201-1477141274

jjklongisland
12-05-2013, 04:35 PM
As a big fan of the of 05-09's I have been on the fence up until now on the mustang looks... I am glad they went for a different look. The long hood will keep that old school muscle car feel. I am glad they still offer the 5.0 and think the 4 banger will really be a big hit for the ricer folks... I like it alot but would still take an 05 or 06 over the new ones. Once more aftermarket grilles and accessories are available I am sure it will look even more aggressive. I think the interior is by far the nicest so far throughout the previous generations. I may have to think twice when I trade in my Maxima next year on a replacement for the wife...:D

KMT
12-05-2013, 04:38 PM
Who among us couldn't love a Ford badged two door with a boost gauge & IRS.

Roadhawg
12-05-2013, 06:45 PM
You forgot ... I'm on the fence

David Neibert
12-05-2013, 08:54 PM
I'm not really feeling it, but I'm pretty sure I'll warm up to it when/if the Voodoo version with a twin turbo 5.0 is released for the 2016 model year. I'm more than a little bias towards the out going chassis, because I just bought a 2014 GT500 a few months ago.

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s390/DNeibert/rubyred2014GT50012_zps2564b12a.jpg

David

MadMikeyL
12-05-2013, 08:56 PM
Cosmetically, I don't think the car is bad, but I think they could have done better. I kind of like the front end. It is new looking, similar to the look of the new fusion, which I really like, but still identifiable as a mustang. I also kind of like the rear end. It is reminiscient of the 69/70 Mustang Mach1, which in my opinion is still the best looking Mustang that has ever been made. The problem is that front end, and that back end DO NOT belong on the same car! I'm generally not a big fan of the whole retro thing, but if it is done right, like the new Challengers, it really can look good. However having half the car look retro, and the other half of the car look new, you just end up with an overall look that is confused and doesn't know what it was trying to do.

As far as interior goes, there really haven't been many newer cars whose interior I find at all pleasing, and this is no exception. This new Mustang's interior does look like an improvement over the previous model, but new cars have so much stuff crammed into the interiors with display screens and navigation, and blue tooth and touch-screen radios, and backup cameras...it just makes the interior feel cramped. All I want in an interior is 6 gauges, a console with an armrest and shifter, radio and power windows within easy reach, comfortable supportive seats, and as much room to stretch out as you can give me, and for some reason NOBODY wants to offer that anymore!

Now that I am done ranting about the exterior and interior, mechanically I am very excited about the new Mustang. It looks like they are making it smaller and lighter than the previous generation, which is great, considering the the previous 2 generations look like middle-aged overweight versions of the Mustangs from the 60s. Between that and the new suspension, it looks like this Mustang might actually have good ride and good handling simultaneously, a concept that Ford couldn't be bothered with since the MarkVIII went away in 98! The 5.0 is an incredible motor, and from the sounds of it the 2015 will have even more tweaks, so I can't argue there, and even the base 3.7 is rated at 300hp, so a plain-jane mustang won't be any slouch either. I am very curious about the 2.3 Ecoboost and where that is going to fall both in terms of power and price compared to the 5.0. Back in the SVO days, the turbo-4 was almost as powerful as the V8, but much more expensive, so it didn't sell well, and I think if they follow the same formula, they will see the same result. Also, having a 300hp base motor, if they only get 310hp out of the Ecoboost, I think very few people will spend the extra money for it, so I think that would also be a marketing failure. However if they can get about 350hp out of the turbo-4, with better braking and handling and gas mileage than either of the other 2, and if they can price it slightly under the 5.0 car, then I think they would have 3 cars that will all sell very well.

All that being said, once they come out I will probably do just what I did with the Challenger and the Ecoboost F150; build one on the website, see how much the monthly payment will be, then act like the cheap bastard I am and build something almost as fast for a lot less money, possibly using parts from these new cars when some rich kid wraps his around a pole. I may go one step further though when these come out, I may take a couple test drives just to see how it compares to my old MN12s.

David R.
12-05-2013, 09:07 PM
Who among us couldn't love a Ford badged two door with a boost gauge & IRS.

touche on that! Idk how I feel yet, maybe when they add some more agressive body styling to the speedier models to come (if they do) I'll warm up to it. I really do love the look of the last one, and I think David Neibert's car is gorgeous.

David Neibert
12-05-2013, 09:18 PM
This article has a lot of pictures and specs for the 3 models being offered.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/1403_2015_ford_mustang_revealed/

David

Dougie
12-06-2013, 02:12 AM
[QUOTE=MadMikeyL;1055324]

I am very curious about the 2.3 Ecoboost and where that is going to fall both in terms of power and price compared to the 5.0. Back in the SVO days, the turbo-4 was almost as powerful as the V8, but much more expensive, so it didn't sell well, and I think if they follow the same formula, they will see the same result. Also, having a 300hp base motor, if they only get 310hp out of the Ecoboost, I think very few people will spend the extra money for it, so I think that would also be a marketing failure.

I honestly think they will make the Ecoboost cheaper than the other models for the fact that they want people driving 4 bangers rather that 5.0's. I'd like to run a good SC against one. I bet we'd win with at least an aftermarket gear, but then again.. might get smoked. I think it'll be awesome if they put a supercharger or have twin turbos on the 5.0 though. Gimme the power Ford considering you don't want anybody to have BBF's anymore :mad:

KMT
12-06-2013, 02:54 AM
From: ' http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1312_2015_ford_mustang_first_look/ '

"Originally, the 2015 Ford Mustang was to be offered with only two engines, the 5.0-liter V-8 and the all-new EcoBoost 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder. The 3.7-liter V-6 was added to the Mustang stable during development for a very simple reason: price, although it will be months before pricing is announced.

“We wanted the Mustang to remain obtainable to our customers, so we kept the V-6 as the base model,” said vehicle engineering manager Tom Barnes."

-=-

For 2015, I'd expect the V6 at $24k, EcobooStang at $29k and the 5.0 GT at $34k.

superdadsc
12-06-2013, 08:05 AM
I think I like it. I need to see it in person and I need to look at it for a while. For some reason the cars looks change in my mind after looking at it. Like my brain needs to get use to it. It either grows on me or it doesn't.

Love the engine options. Might get a 2.3 for my wife.

Tommy Turbo
12-09-2013, 02:43 AM
Only mustangs I like are the 87-93 fox body, and 85-86 right behind. I am just starting to warm up to the 94-98 style. Call me strange, but that's what I think a mustang is, probably cause I was a kid and wanted one in the late 80's, early 90's.

CurtisPaulfrey
12-09-2013, 05:19 AM
Where is the option for 03 Cobra?

Solid axle, auto swap / done.

sc4u2nv
12-10-2013, 06:36 AM
Part of me likes it, part of me hates it. I think it looks too much like my '13 SHO!!

Rick_Leuce
12-10-2013, 02:32 PM
From what I've learned so far (still more info to be released) the new 2015 Mustang will perform better than the 2011-2014 Mustangs in pretty much every way. I think there are appearance features that make the new Mustang appealing, but not quite as retro as the 2013-14 (which is the best look since 1970).

There's a few new techy features that are part cool but part creepy. like Ford's new type of "keyless entry", where all you need is to have the key in proximity of the car and it'll unlock AND you can start the car WITHOUT pulling your keys out of your pocket (push to start ignition). There could be problems with this... but its kind of cool. The thing I hate about new car keys is that you can't simply go to a Home Depot and get a spare of your key for a few bucks, you'd have to go to a dealership and pay like $30-60 for a spare key.

I hope there aren't too many techie flippy switches and whatnot that make the Mustang lose the feel of a TRUE sports car. I'm glad that the whole dashboard isn't just a computer screen (tachometer and speedometer are at least real gauges) but I'm bothered that some cars are leaning that way.

I know that car companies are trying to implement all this tech to appeal to younger buyers, but (as a young driver myself) I'm not impressed with half the new stuff they shove into cars these days. I'd rather drive a 1980 something Mercury Lynx 4-banger Diesel with crank windows and a stick than a new car with stupid paddle shifters.

David Neibert
12-11-2013, 01:05 PM
Rick,

Ford keys have been electronically coded for many years and also have the key fob integrated into the key. Spare keys are about $120, so not really a big change with the new type.

David

VicRattlehead
12-14-2013, 10:52 PM
I'm in for a boosted 4banger. Or depending on mpg/price I might just say get the 5.0 if it's not more then 5k more.

Rick_Leuce
12-14-2013, 11:36 PM
I'm in for a boosted 4banger. Or depending on mpg/price I might just say get the 5.0 if it's not more then 5k more.

I hear a lot of people who get Fords with Eco boost are disappointed. They have nice acceleration and all but they're hard to work on and their MPG ratings are slightly higher than you'll really get (sometimes overrated by up to 5 MPG). However, in the current V6 Mustangs, people love to find out that they get about 5 more MPG than their car was rated for.

I'd personally stick to the 6-Cyl and 8-Cyl but hopefully the new Fords with Eco Boost will have improved their system. I wished there was a V6 Mustang with a Supercharger option from the factory.

VicRattlehead
12-15-2013, 12:32 AM
Well there is a twinturbo package my buddy is working on for the 5.0 so will see

ghostryder
12-15-2013, 01:38 AM
looks similar to the Nissan 370Z

jdsgallops
12-17-2013, 11:26 AM
I am really waiting to see one in person before I pass judgement, but by the photos I think it is too much like the previous generation. It is no secret that this car is destined for Europe. Because of this I was hoping for something more aggressive in the styling department. This iteration says Mustang but is typical conservative Ford in not wanting to alienate its core customer. Combine that with a carry over drivetrain lineup and this car really doesn't appeal to me unless the in person look is just jaw droppingly good.

As far as the ecoboost 4 it is of no interest to me either. My daily driver is a 2011 Premium.auto Mustang. I average 29-31 mpg on my 62mi round trip to work everyday traveling @ 75mph for 40 miles on the interstate. I have taken it on two road trips, one this summer covering 1100 miles and averaged over 35mpg and one recently in colder weather covering 900mi and still averaged 32. The car is geared with 2.73's and a 28" tire from the factory and turns less than 2K@75-80mph. It ran 14.9@94mph at the strip with very lazy 60ft times(2.3 IIRC). Paying a premium price for the 4 cyl ecoboost for the small gain in mpg just isn't worth the price IMHO. This engine option is likely being offered solely because of the european market and the way gas prices and taxes are applied over there.

Now if the car does look good in person I will be waiting till 2017 when the rumored turbo 6 is suppose to show up. Whether it is the SHO 3.5 or turbos on the current 3.7 I would be able to keep my current mpg, hopefully, and have the rumored 400hp it is suppose to have. That is the winner in my book.

taterheadted
01-03-2014, 08:40 PM
I traded an '87 TurboCoupe and some cash for a '92 SC a few months back. I inherited the TC. It was twice wrecked, no heat, droning, no synchro, warped rotors, messed up ac controller, leaking radiator. I proceeded to drive it in that condition for 30K miles because despite all it's problems, it was (a) a blast to push around corners (b) got 31 mpg highway (c) averaged 25 mpg overall. Personally, other than the severe turbo lag, I thought the car was great and would have kept it had it not been for all the problems that were not worth the expense to fix (and I do my own work, so no labor). Of course the SC is head and shoulders a more comfortable and faster car (understatement) but I would think a Mustang with a twin turbo should be great. Being lighter the HP/LB ratio should be good and with the twin turbo, lag should be minimal. As for mpg, some people don't understand that if you put a SMALL engine in a car and drive it like a V8 then you get V8 mileage. If you drive it reasonably, the mileage should be impressive. I thought 25 mpg for 26 year old car weighing in at 3500 lbs was pretty impressive. Oh yeah and with the 22 gallon tank it had a much nicer cruising range than the SC! Loved my TC. Love my SC more. Would definitely love a 4 cyl mustang.

XxSlowpokexX
01-14-2014, 06:07 PM
In person the car looks amazing. Its also wider than the s197. You all need to see it in person. Its hot. It took the 2010 stang and made it a hell of alot better looking. Wait two years and see what happens. If the performance is anything like they say it is..Its a win win.

Rick_Leuce
01-27-2014, 03:58 PM
I'm all for a 4-cyl Turbo Mustang (kinda like the SVO) but I don't want no stinkin' ecoboost on a "performance" car :p

The ecoboost saves you gas and makes your car a little faster, but I'd rather save money by not needing to fix or replace it years down the road. (I hear cars with ecoboost lose their resale value faster than cars that don't)

I'd prefer the base V6 Mustang, if it's as good or better than the current version... then its a no-brainer :rolleyes: Maybe someday I'll buy one used and put a supercharger in it ;) The world could use more Super 6-bangers with IRS :D

1FSTBRD
02-21-2014, 09:13 PM
I think that the styling on the 2015 'Stang is great. Some people have said that the back of the car looks like a Honda Accord, but I personally don't see that. The front of the car has a more aggressive profile, and it looks (visually, at least) like it's a bit more aerodynamic than the last few years of Mustangs, and most likely more than the 2005-2010 Stangs, in which Ford had admitted that aerodynamics took a back seat to visual appeal (especially the grille/ front area). The sides appear to be a little narrower than in previous years. As a '99 Mustang owner, i'm more of a fan of the '99-'04's, in which I think it's a good blend of modern and retro.

There's some good points in this thread. The turbo'd 4 cylinder sounds like a great idea in theory, and the power numbers are phenomenal. But are the slightly better numbers than the V6 and the slightly better gas mileage worth it to enough people to make it viable for Ford? As we've seen on the SC's and Turbo Coupes, when people don't maintain the cars well, the motors take a beating. And this being a new engine, the R&D only goes so far....the ongoing R&D becomes anyone who buys it and drives it under various conditions. As it stands, the Coyote 5.0 suffered and is suffering from some piston #8 failures, and with the horsepower wars between the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang, when power numbers are boosted, obviously, the question becomes how long that the motors will last. People always want reliability, economy and power, but very rarely do those go hand in hand, especially when you really start putting some serious mileage on a motor.

jdsgallops
02-22-2014, 03:17 AM
In addition to stock reliability and performance I am curious to see just what the aftermarket can do with an already potent 2.3 turbo. Already putting out roughly 1.5hp per cube will make it tough to gain more out of the engine for reasonable money. The 3.7 has shown the potential to run in the high 12's with bolt on's in the 11 to 14 cars. With the 15 suppose to be lighter the performance will likely be better. And then the option to put a power adder on it.

superdadsc
02-22-2014, 12:24 PM
My guess is that 4cyl turbo motor will be a strong one. Looking at the SC and turbo Tbird the motors are strong. We had a get together with about 6 SC's here in ga last weekend and 3 of them had 300k miles on them!!!! Original 300k!!!!!

What I like is the ability to chose the engine and I think ford has done a great good bringing different options to the public.

It will be interesting to see what the tuners do with the turbo. How much more they can squeeze out of it.

Still haven't seen one yet. Might have to go down and look at one! My wife will be needing a new car as soon as she is done with PT school.

1FSTBRD
02-22-2014, 11:04 PM
I should also state that i've never met a Mustang that I didn't like. New ones, old ones, well kept ones, neglected ones;4 cylinder ones, V6 ones, V8 ones. Yeah, even the Mustang II. :D Many people really dislike Bunkie Knudsen's '71 to '73's, but I like those, too.

queenbird
07-23-2014, 07:12 PM
The thing with the Ecoboost is there's a lot of potential with just a tune. I'm looking at doing that with my 2013 SHO w/PP, I've seen at least one person with a tune and some other minor stuff getting down to 4 seconds 0-60 - in a Taurus :eek:

If the Mustang 2.3L Ecoboost is that tunable, I'm sure you'll see them kicking butt.

sc4u2nv
07-23-2014, 07:34 PM
Agreed!!! I ordered a tune from Livernois for my SHO so im excited to see how she performs once i get it installed. I already condider her my Audi killer but what next???



The thing with the Ecoboost is there's a lot of potential with just a tune. I'm looking at doing that with my 2013 SHO w/PP, I've seen at least one person with a tune and some other minor stuff getting down to 4 seconds 0-60 - in a Taurus :eek:

If the Mustang 2.3L Ecoboost is that tunable, I'm sure you'll see them kicking butt.

plethaus
08-13-2014, 07:09 PM
I love almost everything about the '15 Mustang... except that front end. I can see where they were going with it - keeping a "family" of styling through the brand, while making it a bit more aggressive and edgy - but it just looks way too much like a Fusion. Basically the headlights just make me think of a Japanese sedan more than they do Mustang. Still, it would probably grow on me if I had one, and the rest of the car is great. The rear end is especially sexy, probably the best design since 1970 if you ask me.

Caffeine930
02-13-2015, 12:02 AM
I didn't think I liked them at first but after seeing it more and more I began to like them but now that it's fairly common to see them I have noticed they kind of look gtrish

David Neibert
02-13-2015, 12:15 PM
They are starting to grow on me, especially since the GT350 was announced. Waiting to see what they do for the next generation GT500.

David

SCTBIRD1173
02-13-2015, 01:10 PM
Since I saw the 50th anniversary one at Carlisle in 2014 I loved the exterior styling (it really doesn't look great in pictures), then sitting in one at the Philly auto show this past weekend sealed the deal. I wouldn't be against buying one, that's saying a lot since I haven't been a Mustang guy since '98. Ford did a great job with them and it seems like every magazine is raving about the chassis, etc.