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Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 01:17 AM
Hello all! New member here in CA. I recently picked up my first SC. It's an 89 5 speed. Picked it up for only $450. It's been sitting many years and is pretty rough. Fortunately only 119k miles. Clutch, master cylinder, & tires all had less than 100 miles on them when I bought it. It's been a steep learning curve thus far & Ive been getting a lot of info from you guys here by searching the forums.

Plans are to restore it to much better condition, daily drive it, & mod it(goal is 12's). I live close to sea level, so getting boosted cars into the 12's isn't that hard. I'm thinking full exhaust, aeromotive 340lph in tank pump, intake, 90mm maf, 70mm t/b, blower hat, intercooler fans, injectors, blower pulley, slicks & possibly e85 to get there. Which brings me to wonder how well these EEC's deal with mods. I know my 93 Mustang 5.0 computer handles mods pretty well(meaning it didn't wig out and act crazy with tons of mods), so I'm hoping this will be the same.

So far I've put on a ton of new parts,
New oil/filter, coolant, thermostat, radiator cap, coolant sensor, coolant sender, egr vacuum solenoid, starter solenoid, ever start extreme 850/1000 ca battery, all new fuses with led illumination when blown, fuel filter, o2 sensors, autolite double platinum plugs, plug wires, alternator, trunk lock, transmission fluid, rear axle oil, completely bled the brakes & clutch with dot 4 synthetic, air filter, etc & scored on some much needed stuff from pick n pull.

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KMT
01-08-2014, 01:35 AM
Welcome - good luck w/the car.

Ken

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 01:40 AM
Welcome - good luck w/the car.

Ken

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm new to the sc, but not new to cars in general. They're basically all fairly similar just different names & locations of parts. I plan on putting this car back on the road soon, then modding it, & giving it lots of tlc

KMT
01-08-2014, 01:56 AM
They're basically all fairly similar just different names & locations of parts.

Yes and no...

I think you'll find the electronics on this car a learning experience. And while parts aren't that hard to find still, aftermarket stuff is another story.

Get a factory manual and EVTM, fix the hinges in those doors and don't forget to smile when it finally comes around.

About locations - if you haven't already, see this thread:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61769&highlight=component+Locator

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 02:36 AM
Yes and no...

I think you'll find the electronics on this car a learning experience. And while parts aren't that hard to find still, aftermarket stuff is another story.

Get a factory manual and EVTM, fix the hinges in those doors and don't forget to smile when it finally comes around.

About locations - if you haven't already, see this thread:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61769&highlight=component+Locator

I picked up a chilton and Haynes manual, have the ford obd1 tester, several digital meters, and I've been learning about the fun stuff this car has to offer.

The main problem I'm finding with after market parts since I live in CA is that there are basically none that are carb certified for these cars.

Kurt K
01-08-2014, 10:28 AM
I picked up a chilton and Haynes manual, have the ford obd1 tester, several digital meters, and I've been learning about the fun stuff this car has to offer.

The main problem I'm finding with after market parts since I live in CA is that there are basically none that are carb certified for these cars.
Chilton and Haynes will work for most things, but the factory service manual and EVTM have so much more information. You can usually find used copies on here or Ebay, or you can buy a new copy from Helms.

Good Luck with your car.

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 04:16 PM
Chilton and Haynes will work for most things, but the factory service manual and EVTM have so much more information. You can usually find used copies on here or Ebay, or you can buy a new copy from Helms.

Good Luck with your car.

I've never owned a factory service manual before. I checked out ebay. Looks like there are a few put out by ford. Recommendations?

KMT
01-08-2014, 04:26 PM
The 4" thick binder factory manual for your year car:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Ford-Thunderbird-Mercury-Cougar-XR7-Service-Shop-Repair-Manual-/171163277347?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item27da205823&vxp=mtr
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mgQ0FGsKH1nQ2kggr5wcZZw.jpg

And the soft bound factory EVTM for your year car:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Ford-Thunderbird-Cougar-EVTM-Diagrams-Manual-/190285035724?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item2c4ddf38cc&vxp=mtr
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mlW9Prgl8n7rilxi-7tSRiQ.jpg

jjklongisland
01-08-2014, 04:37 PM
Factory manuals are great. So what plans do you have for the Thunderchicken?

SCDan35thANV
01-08-2014, 07:05 PM
Welcome to the forum I live in burlingame myself and have two 35th sc's and the ford manuals so let me know if you need anything. Good luck!

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 07:23 PM
Factory manuals are great. So what plans do you have for the Thunderchicken?

I'm going to daily drive it, restore it, and try to go 12's without spending a million bucks

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 07:25 PM
Welcome to the forum I live in burlingame myself and have two 35th sc's and the ford manuals so let me know if you need anything. Good luck!

There's a 35th ann. For sale for $350 with a blown head gasket out here. I thought about buying that one before this one, but this one runs/drives and only 119k miles, new clutch, new master cylinder, new tires etc

SCDan35thANV
01-08-2014, 07:38 PM
There's a 35th ann. For sale for $350 with a blown head gasket out here. I thought about buying that one before this one, but this one runs/drives and only 119k miles, new clutch, new master cylinder, new tires etc

if you could send me the details that would be awesome. I don't need another one but always like to look and see if it has any parts I might want or need.

Xounlistedxox
01-08-2014, 07:59 PM
if you could send me the details that would be awesome. I don't need another one but always like to look and see if it has any parts I might want or need.

It was posted on sacramento craigslist, I just looked & it's no longer there

HwyStar
01-11-2014, 12:02 PM
Awsome man! I have a friend out there with a fast Mark VIII. He had problems too with Calis insane environmental laws. It can be done, but I think you have to know somebody sometimes.

Xounlistedxox
01-11-2014, 02:47 PM
Awsome man! I have a friend out there with a fast Mark VIII. He had problems too with Calis insane environmental laws. It can be done, but I think you have to know somebody sometimes.

I was going to buy a mark viii last year, but all the bags were broke and it had several parkingbtickets, so I wound up passing it up. I have the same problem with my srt as far as smog goes. I think i can get away with several mods fairly easily. Fuel pump, blower hat, intercooler, 94/95 exhaust manifolds, late model blower, maf, injectors, e85 etc

99GSXR750
01-11-2014, 08:49 PM
Don't waste money on the sc top, instead use it towards a magnum powers inlet when you switch to the 2nd gen m90. And if the head gaskets haven't been done yet, save some cash because they're going to blow soon.

Xounlistedxox
01-11-2014, 11:30 PM
Don't waste money on the sc top, instead use it towards a magnum powers inlet when you switch to the 2nd gen m90. And if the head gaskets haven't been done yet, save some cash because they're going to blow soon.

There are many high dollar work orders that came with this car including brand new tires $838, new clutch & master cylinder $1,000+, reseal supercharger piping $300+, but none that say head gasket repair. Do you think even at factory performance levels and being adult driven it's still likely to pop a head gasket soon?

KMT
01-12-2014, 12:02 AM
No reason to think that, I feel.

Put some miles on it, monitor the cooling system and worry later when you start to add hp and stress. Those hot Sacto. summers won't help, tho :)

Xounlistedxox
01-12-2014, 01:18 PM
No reason to think that, I feel.

Put some miles on it, monitor the cooling system and worry later when you start to add hp and stress. Those hot Sacto. summers won't help, tho :)

Ya, it seems like it runs a bit warm right now. The cooling fan works, but it doesn't come on until the temp gauge reads about 3/4 of the way towards hot. I changed the temp sensor & temp sender & it still does the same thing. I know the coolant moves around via the thermostat since I get heat inside, and can see when it starts & stops moving via the overflow bottle. I'm wondering if the dash gauge is just off? The actual surface temperature of the radiator stays around 180* while running. I use my laser thermometer to check temps all over the engine while it was running. The hottest spot was of course the exhaust manifolds. Other than those, the engine was all under 200*

KMT
01-12-2014, 01:26 PM
Sounds all normal.

I'd invest in a fresh new cap tho - straight 16#.

Watch the upper hose to be sure it doesn't collapse with an overnite cool down - if it does, the tube to the overflow tank is blocked, but you said the level goes up/down, so that should be ok.

Look around the top/front of the engine to see if you can tell if any gasket changes, non-factory adhesives, etc.

Xounlistedxox
01-13-2014, 02:57 AM
Sounds all normal.

I'd invest in a fresh new cap tho - straight 16#.

Watch the upper hose to be sure it doesn't collapse with an overnite cool down - if it does, the tube to the overflow tank is blocked, but you said the level goes up/down, so that should be ok.

Look around the top/front of the engine to see if you can tell if any gasket changes, non-factory adhesives, etc.

Picked up a new cap today. Runs a little cooler. I planned on doing that anyway, but thanks for the suggestion

mhaddad87
01-25-2014, 11:27 PM
sounds like ive found the northern cali thunderbird guys finally. I am in Stockton and commute to sac everyday. I have a 95 sc 5 speed I have been restoring for the past year or so now. nice to someone else in the area doing the same!

Xounlistedxox
01-26-2014, 02:21 AM
sounds like ive found the northern cali thunderbird guys finally. I am in Stockton and commute to sac everyday. I have a 95 sc 5 speed I have been restoring for the past year or so now. nice to someone else in the area doing the same!

Looks good! Much cleaner than my pile, but for the low price & a 5 speed I'm more than happy to have mine. All my friends think I'm crazy since I have so many other vehicles already, but oh well. I'm daily driving the tbird and having fun with it.

SuperCoupe007
01-31-2014, 01:51 PM
Welcome to the SCCOA! I see that you are in NOR-CAL and I am in SO-CAL. I guess you can say that we are neighbors ;)

Your SC looks really good for the price. From what I see on your pictures you have no body damage which is a great foundation. I only see small work here and there to make her an awesome SC.

I don't know if you have visited your NOR-CAL chapter, but post to see who is around you and they should be able to help you move some wrenches.

mhaddad87
03-02-2014, 02:27 AM
Looks good! Much cleaner than my pile, but for the low price & a 5 speed I'm more than happy to have mine. All my friends think I'm crazy since I have so many other vehicles already, but oh well. I'm daily driving the tbird and having fun with it.

I know what you mean. I have had my fair share of garage and driveway ornaments too. I love this car though, has a lot of great qualities, I cant wait to put it back on the road. I suppose I could just put it on the street now and do my upgrades with time. maybe sometime this summer we could have a meet?

Xounlistedxox
03-05-2014, 08:09 PM
I know what you mean. I have had my fair share of garage and driveway ornaments too. I love this car though, has a lot of great qualities, I cant wait to put it back on the road. I suppose I could just put it on the street now and do my upgrades with time. maybe sometime this summer we could have a meet?

Ya, that was my focus, put it on the road first, do mods later. This car has needed so much fixing it's actually starting to wear on me a bit. If I still have it when you have yours on the road most likely I'll be up for a meet