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whitebird93
07-30-2014, 01:44 AM
So Im about to start installing new rear control arm bushings as well as the Lincoln Mark viii arms and Eibach lowering springs. I have a couple questions. I read different opinions on the spring perches for the mark viii arms. Im not running air bags so do I still need them? Also what should I do for the rear spring cups? I cant find stock ones only the ones from super coupe performance which I believe are the same as the energy suspension ones. I read on here that there is a difference in ride height between the stock ones and the poly ones. Should I find stock ones or go with the poly? Does that matter if Im going to run a perch or not? Im hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

S_Mazza
07-30-2014, 10:12 AM
So Im about to start installing new rear control arm bushings as well as the Lincoln Mark viii arms and Eibach lowering springs. I have a couple questions. I read different opinions on the spring perches for the mark viii arms. Im not running air bags so do I still need them? Also what should I do for the rear spring cups? I cant find stock ones only the ones from super coupe performance which I believe are the same as the energy suspension ones. I read on here that there is a difference in ride height between the stock ones and the poly ones. Should I find stock ones or go with the poly? Does that matter if Im going to run a perch or not? Im hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

The spring perches are specifically intended for using the Mark VIII arms with coil springs.

The Energy Suspension spring isolators aren't really much taller than stock parts. They do seem taller than worn out and flattened stock parts. So the normal ride height will be restored.

I don't think it will work great without the perches, but I think I have heard of people doing it.

racecougar
07-30-2014, 06:50 PM
Exactly. Just because others have run without perches properly locating the springs doesn't mean it's correct.

whitebird93
07-31-2014, 01:23 AM
Ok cool copy perches. So the only perches available are the ones from Super coupe performance that bill sells correct?

also are these the correct spring isolators? they have a couple options

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=61709

RalphP
07-31-2014, 03:20 PM
Bill sells some, yes.

Jay Richmond also sells them - he has the stuff DLF used to use to make them (plans and new material).

You can also find some replacements on the Lincoln forums, such as http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/ .

RwP

CenTexSC
08-01-2014, 03:43 PM
I've recently bought from Jay and he does quality work. I purchased the perches, sub frame mounts and stainless sleeves for the front strut rod and no complaints here.

Zack

aroot1
08-02-2014, 12:33 PM
How can one contact Jay Richmond ? I'm gonna need SS sleeves for my radius arm bushings in 2 cars. Didn't know anyone was still making them

Thanks

Adam

RalphP
08-04-2014, 08:41 AM
I don't find him on SCCoA, but on TCCoA he's 98Mark8LSC - and he's on Facebook.

RwP

MadMikeyL
08-04-2014, 09:18 AM
You definitely need something there to locate the spring and prevent it from moving. The spring perches that people make also have a bit of a lip because without that, the rear will sit lower than the front, so the perch raises the ride height by about a half-inch. If you want a cheap way of making it work, what I did on a coil conversion on a buddy's beater MarkVIII was you can buy a rubber isolator that the spring sits in at advance auto parts that will give you back the height, and then a couple hockey pucks with holes drilled through them bolted to both the LCA, and the upper perches to locate the springs and prevent them from moving. Total cost on the conversion parts, not counting springs or shocks, was about $30.

CenTexSC
08-05-2014, 11:25 AM
Adam,
If you didn't already contact Jay. Im sending you a pm with his email add

Zack

whitebird93
08-06-2014, 12:59 AM
Thats not a bad idea with the hockey pucks! Im not apposed to buying the perches i want to do it right and i want it to work correctly. Can you send me Jays info too?

CenTexSC
08-06-2014, 09:42 AM
Done. You have pm

JayBob
05-17-2015, 12:15 AM
I just found this thread.

I'm Jay Richmond. Some forums I go by 98mark8lsc, and others I go by JayBob, or JayBob00.

For anyone else reading this in the future, sending me a PM on here should be sufficient for contacting me.

Thanks!

whitebird93
05-20-2015, 01:01 AM
I hit you up on facebook to order these around the same time as this thread. I have them installed and are working great!!!! thanks great product!