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Pat DiPersia
01-14-2015, 09:32 AM
We want to hear from you (At least, if you would be attending the shootout!) regarding where to host the SC Shootout.

We've setup a quick two question survey (Three, if you optionally answer the last question asking what changes you would make to the shootout.) We basically want to know your zip code and how far you'd travel for the shootout. This survey will take you less than 30 seconds to complete.

So IF you would be attending the Shootout, please complete the survey. We'll keep it open for a few weeks to give people a chance to complete. Once we have some good data, we plan to look it over and see if a change in venue really would be beneficial. Please only complete the survey once. Thanks.

SC Shootout Survey (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JVd2l0R1NDzJc7RLQKZjBV0fDCeiGlbryxmUOYXQIGc/viewform?usp=send_form)

SCrazy
01-14-2015, 09:53 AM
Done

Speak up folks. Every few years the shootout committee has gone through this effort in order be sure the location and venues are meeting everyone's expectations.

r429460
01-14-2015, 05:38 PM
Don't change a thing.

davec73
01-14-2015, 06:00 PM
I really like the current location because they accommodate us so well. If I were to choose another location I would like to see it back in the stl area. My opinion on a choice of location is kind of biased because I really like the Kentucky location. I think the guys and gals that have been to several of the different locations would have an overall better opinion of what location is better than the other.

David Neibert
01-14-2015, 06:51 PM
We can't afford to rent Gateway, so I don't see how STL will be possible.

David

davec73
01-14-2015, 07:52 PM
I was under the impression there was another 1/4 mile track that was used for the first shootout.

XR7 Dave
01-14-2015, 08:26 PM
NE Ohio!

We have a huge place with on-site dyno facilities and full mechanical shop for anyone who needs anything. We have a HUGE paved parking lot where burnouts are not only allowed but encouraged. No neighbors to aggravate.

Plenty of room for the car show, covered pavilion for lunch and other activities in case of rain. No curfew.

Plenty of parking for all trucks and trailers.

Banquet facilities are local, but not on site. Catering is not a problem.

Hotels are close (about 5 minutes). Hotels do not have banquet facilities though.

Track is also close - about 15-20 minutes. Track has PAVED pit area. Top quality launch pad, good track with ample shutdown. Well maintained and professional.

Easy access, right off Rt I-90. Quiet area.

My 02. :)

racecougar
01-14-2015, 09:43 PM
I was under the impression there was another 1/4 mile track that was used for the first shootout.

MAR closed and was torn down back in 2005.

Ira R.
01-14-2015, 09:58 PM
Dayton was nice, KY is nicer (can't beat the hotel arrangements) but it's gotten harder to make what was once a doable one day trip now that it's a good two day trip. Anything under 600 miles or so would be nice for a change, although I realize that barely gets me into Ohio.

Jacob_Royer
01-15-2015, 09:35 AM
I say leave it like it is. I think attendance would drop moving it myself. Most the people that complain about the location
never attend imo...having the car show hotel and dyno all in the same location is great! Loading and unloading the car and towing it across town is not apealing. The facilities we have now have worked great for 3 years! Not to mention the weather has always been tolerable in ky.

Pat DiPersia
01-16-2015, 03:00 PM
Come on, where is everyone? I received 16 responses so far - 13 the first day, three the second and none today so far.

Well, here's the map so far. I took everyone's zip code and put a circle around it based on the distance they'd be willing to drive. We're at 88% of people are willing to drive to Clay City for the meet (Clay City is marked with the blue pin.) One person is on the edge (And I included them in the 88%) and two people are just too far.

The general comments we received were helpful - most were "Leave it as it is." I know there was a lot of talk in years past about different locations and different things to try. I'm still looking for survey responses, so please fill it out. We're not done yet.

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r429460
01-17-2015, 06:15 PM
Wow, I'm a thousand miles from Bermuda,
I change my vote, let's go exotic and go there.

pro street rich
01-22-2015, 07:55 PM
We can always come to here. I do the mid west bash and that has worked out for us. Track time is cheap and so is the dyno and hotels... Just got to throw it out there and keep in mind this years mid west bash... The cook out at my house was a great time as was the bonfire in my back yard... This is a great location and it is close for me....lol.....Rich

WES92SC
01-23-2015, 07:43 AM
What about something that would be a bit more central to the group in large? Say - Oklahoma, Kansas.
Anything more than a days drive takes away the fun- especially if you plan to trailer it in.

XR7 Dave
01-23-2015, 08:10 AM
We actually had the Shootout in OKC one time. Attendance from the southern contingent was dismal. We even went so far as to ask for deposits that year and a bunch of people just forfeited their deposits and didn't show so basically it meant all the people from the north had to drive that much further for no real purpose. I always wanted to see two Shootout events, one north and one south, but unfortunately we didn't seem to have the #'s to support that. Who knows, maybe we could???

SCrazy
01-23-2015, 08:22 AM
What about something that would be a bit more central to the group in large? Say - Oklahoma, Kansas.
Anything more than a days drive takes away the fun- especially if you plan to trailer it in.

This is the whole point of Pat's map.....I don't see a response on the map from Texas??

In any case there are VERY FEW responses from people west of St Louis which makes it hard to consider a site further west that where we currently are in KY.

fastsc92
01-23-2015, 10:35 AM
I certainly wish they were hosted closer to me, but that's not been the main reason that I haven't attended ANY shootouts, especially within the past few years. It's a good 15hr drive for me to reach KY. Obviously I'm quite bias, but I'd love to see them hosted up at New England Dragway. They have good facilities, paved pits, etc. Seeing as Brian is a huge part of the organization of the Shootouts, I'm sure he'd like these events to be closer too. If they were closer to me, I'd certainly help with the organization in any way. Just my two cents.

Pat DiPersia
01-23-2015, 10:49 AM
It's getting harder to read as we're getting more responses, but we're still hearing that MOST people would be willing to drive to Clay City. The data doesn't lie. If we had responses from mid-west, we'd move mid-west. New England responses? Move to New England. Etc. If we don't get responses from those areas, we can't justify moving. If my math is right and I'm counting the circles accurately, 80% of people who responded are willing to drive to Clay City.

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WES92SC
01-23-2015, 10:51 AM
This is the whole point of Pat's map.....I don't see a response on the map from Texas??

In any case there are VERY FEW responses from people west of St Louis which makes it hard to consider a site further west that where we currently are in KY.


Looking at Pat's mapping- there is no pin points. Since I had seen the survey, wonder if he has updated it yet. I'm in Houston, there are a few SC'rs down here but for the most part they play over on TCCoA, don't know why but it is what it is. If all goes well and this is planned for the latter part of Sept or October I will be able to make it this year. Its nice on the new job, away from home, no dogs barkin at me, no cat cryin, but I do miss my fur kids and my bird that was supposed to go to the mechanic while I am away- now we will have to come home for 2 days and get it to him- gawd this is nerve wrecking!!!!

Tim Groth
01-29-2015, 02:17 PM
Just saw this...placed my vote. Been to both the KY and OH shootouts...everything at the Hotel is pretty great IMO. Getting up, walking 20 feet and being at the car show and dyno is pretty darn sweet. ...need a break or a rest...walk another 20 feet and your back in the room to watch football or whatever. The hotel staff wants us there which is always a great feeling also.


I hope with the decrease in gas costs will allow more people to travel this year...certainly that has to play a factor. At the end of the day, those who want to make it will make sure they can.


-Tim

Pat DiPersia
02-02-2015, 05:28 AM
The map has gotten a bit unwieldy with all of the circles, but I've updated it to the latest and greatest. In addition, I did a second map with just pinpoints of where people responded from. We're still at ~80% of respondents saying they would drive to Clay City, KY.

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Ira R.
02-02-2015, 04:09 PM
Interesting. Judging from the location of those red dots it looks like the event could be moved back to somewhere in Ohio and it wouldn't make that much of a difference to many people.

Ira

r429460
02-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Easy Ira. I'm the Florida guy.
Rick

kenewagner
02-05-2015, 03:13 PM
I will go if its in Ohio or Kentucky

Ken Wagner
Omaha, NE

Quik95SC
02-05-2015, 07:54 PM
Easy Ira. I'm the Florida guy.
Rick

Rick,
I understand what you are saying and the farthest I have had to travel to a Shootout is 10 Hours to OK City. It looks to be about 18 or so hours for you depending on driving habits and such. Clay City is going to be your best location really.

All I can say is that just about everyone on this site knows when the shootouts are going to be held generally speaking. Late Sept. or early Oct. I am not sure what you do for a living or anything about you, or vacation situation etc; so this is just in general terms for anyone reading this.

Learn to plan ahead, set back a little money each month for the registration fees, gas money, food, hotel etc; Try not to make it so painful to come up with it all at one time. I have a shootout fund just to make sure I can go every year and fortunately for me I get 6 weeks of vacation a year so that is generally not an issue.

All I am saying is we have had folks from Canada come for several years. Yes it is difficult, and can be a little pricey for some, but I can assure you it will be the most fun you can have a car event you can think of. If you have a family bring them along and get them involved, it doesn't cost much more for them to come.

Start planning now and see how you can make things work to have a great time for a weekend. It has been said a bunch of times before, but don't worry about how your car looks or races, as long as it is reliable enough to make the trip if you drive it, then don't race that's cool. If you trailer it, even better in my opinion, but it can be done if you plan ahead now.

Hope to see you there this year and make sure you find me if you come. ( I am form FL originally too);)

Regards,
Smitty

Jeff Bratton
02-09-2015, 02:29 PM
I too have been to Xenia, OH. several times and now KY's location. Seems to me in talking with several attendees in the last 3 years in KY at the Shootout, all I have heard were GREAT things ABOUT the host hotel, the available of a roomy conference room, how convenient it is too the hotels parking lot as space for the car show and the nice 1/4 mile track at Clay City. I personally like the Shootout being in KY myself as well, with no complaints either and vote to keep it in Winchester, KY.

old_coot
02-09-2015, 04:46 PM
Personally I'd try to make it if it was in Flagstaff or Boston....I enjoy it that much. I have been to a few and must say I prefer the ones in Clay City so far to Dayton and Muncie, but I'll try to make it wherever it is.

XxSlowpokexX
02-11-2015, 06:07 PM
CECIL COUNTY! SET SOME NEW RECORDS lol

SCTBIRD1173
02-12-2015, 09:50 AM
Never been to a shootout but I've been wanting to go for years now. I think the general location is fine especially if everyone likes the facilities and hotels there. The main reason I haven't been to one is I'm not a a big fan of so many hours in the car but it's definitely doable, just personal preference really. Now with 2 young kids at home the wife would never go for me being away for 2 weekends a year; Carlisle is my big hooray and that's not going to change anytime soon, I've attended every year since 2000. Before it's asked, no the wife wouldn't want to attend with the kids; her SC days are long behind her since she sold her car in the early 2000's. :(

XR7 Dave
02-12-2015, 10:25 AM
Guys, you need to keep in mind that we simply can't afford to rent most of the places listed above. Cecil was somewhere in the $15,000 range as I recall from last time I called them. At a big turnout of 40 racers, that would mean $375/entry. Just not in our budget!

There are 2 challenges with regard to track location, one is simple economics, and the other is scheduling. Some tracks are completely booked solid and simply unwilling to rent to a club on a weekend. We could have the Shootout in the middle of the week, but what would that do to attendance?

So please try to be reasonable with your ideas. The Shootout committee works real hard to select locations and venues that work for us. There are many reasons for the venues that we do select. For example, just to put this out there - one of the reasons we stopped going to Kilkare is that they do not have a proper shut down. We had a couple close calls the last time we were there. Our cars are getting faster, and we simply didn't feel that Kilkare offered an acceptable margin of safety for us. There were other reasons as well, but people need to understand that there are a lot factors that go into track location selection.

:)

XxSlowpokexX
02-13-2015, 04:22 PM
I would have never thought cecil was that expensive.. Generally track days when my local club rents range anywhere from 200-250 a person so I guess its on par with the course..It save me a few hundred in tow fees though!

jludorf
02-16-2015, 11:24 AM
I hope to make it this year too. Since I am so far away the location does not matter so much as long as I can drive it in a couple days from Edmonton, Alberta which is over 2000 kms to any of the previous venues I have attended. I could not complete the survey as my postsl/ zip code does not work.

Jacob_Royer
03-13-2015, 12:03 PM
Any word yet on 2015 dates/location???

elanoresc
03-25-2015, 05:09 PM
I will be there this year it would be nice to have in the country of Ohio since its close for me lol. Kentucky was nice though and great to leave behind the Michigan flats.

Jacob_Royer
03-25-2015, 06:58 PM
Kentucky FTW!! Seriously good facilities! way to big of a gamble on weather to goto northern ohio in october... Maybe i can invest in some snow slicks.....

elanoresc
03-25-2015, 09:34 PM
Like button ill trade you for your drag slicks

IkeyM
07-04-2015, 08:52 AM
Thunder Valley in Bristol TN would be a great spot. I work at the Speedway/Dragway i might be able to pull a few strings.

mellbutler
07-28-2015, 11:14 PM
I know this year is decided but I have only been to 2 1/4mile tracks...Dayton and clay city. Love the current setup. very family friendly having everything in same lot, kids can come and go and so forth. For us in 46034 it's a great distance. For the shootout we would be willing to drive further. Really just depends on gas prices but as far as Atlanta, Kansas city, Michigan, D.c. area for us SO I guess that would be 6-8 hr drive

I know past shootout had been in Muncie but from reading posts, people didn't seem to like it though. It's kind of if it aint broken don't fix it...but I think its great you all want to keep an idea where everyone is and is willing to travel.