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Jacob_Royer
03-07-2015, 09:33 AM
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Test drove the 2012 EcoBoost and had to have it! its an XLT with the max tow package locking rear diff 4x4 76k miles so far i absolutely LOVE it cant wait to tow something the power is amazing

DamonPearl94
03-07-2015, 10:49 AM
Love that little motor and truck its in looks nice too.

David R.
03-07-2015, 04:46 PM
Sharp! A lot cleaner than my junk lol. Congrats!

jman2000
03-09-2015, 12:17 AM
You will love it. My dad has a 2013 Ecoboost...blue with silver on the bottom. First mod you'll wanna do is a grill in front of the intercooler :)

These things tow like a champ...I know that because my SC came home behind his truck :)

Have fun with it! It looks sharp!

David Neibert
03-09-2015, 08:23 AM
Cool truck Jacob. My wife got this 2014 ecoboost F150 back in December and loves it.

62971

David

BirdofPrey97
03-09-2015, 12:09 PM
http://www.stage3motorsports.com/5024-80-CSS-2011-2014-F150-EcoBoost-UPR-MEGA-Catch-Can-w-Clean-Side-Separator.html

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/S3MF150TM-2007-2014-F150-Tow-Mirrors-with-Puddle-Lights-Black-Textured.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-2014-Ford-F150-EcoBoost-Lower-Chrome-Bumper-Grille-Intercooler-Protector-/291396687752?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d8989788&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-14-F150-EDGE-SUPER-DUTY-Ford-Factory-Remote-Start-BC3Z-19G364-A-/301555284718?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4636187aee&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rugged-Liner-Rear-Inner-Fender-Well-Liner-Ford-04-13-F150-non-dually-Raptor-/291303178136?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d305bf98&vxp=mtr

And I added the reverse Camera http://www.amazon.com/Camera-Source-CS-FTR1-F-Series-Backup/dp/B00FW29Y7G and Weather Tech mud flaps and floor mats.

Also, put auto climate control in mine. Used a head unit from a Flex and attached the proper harness and fan controller. Auto climate control for about $100.

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 12:38 PM
Nice Eco, on my second one and love it. Traded my 2012 in on a all Tuxedo Black 2014 XLT loaded, with the 302A package, 20" wheels, HID headlights, leather seats with front buckets and center console, and tailgate step.

Also added the UPR dual valve catch can, but have Ford rubber floor mats, wheel well liners, and mudflaps. The factory remote start is super easy to install just have to go have it activated yet.


FYI to all that put grills in front of the intercooler IT COULD VOID YOUR WARRANTY, it is stated in the manual.

BirdofPrey97
03-09-2015, 12:58 PM
The grill voiding the warranty is out the window since ford puts them on the trucks now. We have to tun run them as the gravel will take the IC out w/o one.

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 01:02 PM
Really, when did they start putting grills on them?

jjklongisland
03-09-2015, 01:04 PM
Nice rig! I love that tailgate step... Good luck with her!

BirdofPrey97
03-09-2015, 01:16 PM
Nice rig! I love that tailgate step... Good luck with her!

14s if you knew how to order them. Default on 15s. There is a ford part.

Here's the Ford part. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331499122413?nav=SEARCH

Jacob_Royer
03-09-2015, 01:30 PM
Nice Eco, on my second one and love it. Traded my 2012 in on a all Tuxedo Black 2014 XLT loaded, with the 302A package, 20" wheels, HID headlights, leather seats with front buckets and center console, and tailgate step.

Also added the UPR dual valve catch can, but have Ford rubber floor mats, wheel well liners, and mudflaps. The factory remote start is super easy to install just have to go have it activated yet.


FYI to all that put grills in front of the intercooler IT COULD VOID YOUR WARRANTY, it is stated in the manual.

Remote start??? Do tell more!

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 01:31 PM
My '14 has that in it and was not a special order nor is it listed on the window sticker or as additional feature in Ford model breakdowns. A full length bar or open grill is still a warranty issue, other then what they installed from the factory.

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 01:33 PM
Remote start??? Do tell more!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161501215986?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Here is the link. Bascially drop down the glove box, zip tie it in, and plug it in. You have to take it to a dealer to have them activate the system and program the remote start on the key.

Jacob_Royer
03-09-2015, 01:58 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161501215986?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Here is the link. Bascially drop down the glove box, zip tie it in, and plug it in. You have to take it to a dealer to have them activate the system and program the remote start on the key.

Sweet ! Do you have to change remotes?

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 02:33 PM
Yes and they are included in that Ebay link.

Jacob_Royer
03-09-2015, 04:16 PM
Sweet!!! Does the dealership charge to activate it?

KMT
03-09-2015, 04:33 PM
The eBay ad said usually and the ad author says they charge $45

SuperCoupeDave
03-09-2015, 05:52 PM
Just what ever you do don't mod it!!

My motor blew in my 13 F150 EcoBoost back in Dec and Ford denied the warranty. It costs 13k to replace the motor.

I hate to tell you guys this, but these engines are blowing all over the place, and not just modded Ecos. More stock have blown than any modded ones.
I just want you guys to be aware. I'm an Admin on one of the biggests F150 EcoBoosts forums, and they are dropping like flys.

A friend of mine is a Ford master tech, and told me Ford sent out a bulletin saying that "If they see anything aftermarket, or something nonfactory, stop what you are doing. Warranty is VOID!." That includes wheels and tires guys.
They took pictures of my wheels and tires.

How 90% of these things are blowing, is the engine is direct injected, so the injector under WOT is at 2400psi of pressure. Well they are failing and getting stuck open. Flooding the cylinder and hydrolocking.

I know you guys love these trucks as I did mine, but they have some major issues.

Heres a guy that lost 4 motors in so many months.

http://www.f150forum.com/f70/first-time-my-eco-blew-up-208912/

David Neibert
03-09-2015, 08:21 PM
Just what ever you do don't mod it!!

My motor blew in my 13 F150 EcoBoost back in Dec and Ford denied the warranty. It costs 13k to replace the motor.

I hate to tell you guys this, but these engines are blowing all over the place, and not just modded Ecos. More stock have blown than any modded ones.
I just want you guys to be aware. I'm an Admin on one of the biggests F150 EcoBoosts forums, and they are dropping like flys.

A friend of mine is a Ford master tech, and told me Ford sent out a bulletin saying that "If they see anything aftermarket, or something nonfactory, stop what you are doing. Warranty is VOID!." That includes wheels and tires guys.
They took pictures of my wheels and tires.

How 90% of these things are blowing, is the engine is direct injected, so the injector under WOT is at 2400psi of pressure. Well they are failing and getting stuck open. Flooding the cylinder and hydrolocking.

I know you guys love these trucks as I did mine, but they have some major issues.

Heres a guy that lost 4 motors in so many months.

http://www.f150forum.com/f70/first-time-my-eco-blew-up-208912/

Wasn't your truck modded to over 550 rwhp ? We have been using the F-150 ecoboost trucks in our company fleet since 2011 and haven't had any issues on numerous trucks that are daily driven and traded in at about 130K miles.

David

rzimmerl
03-09-2015, 09:59 PM
Just what ever you do don't mod it!!

My motor blew in my 13 F150 EcoBoost back in Dec and Ford denied the warranty. It costs 13k to replace the motor.

I hate to tell you guys this, but these engines are blowing all over the place, and not just modded Ecos. More stock have blown than any modded ones.
I just want you guys to be aware. I'm an Admin on one of the biggests F150 EcoBoosts forums, and they are dropping like flys.

A friend of mine is a Ford master tech, and told me Ford sent out a bulletin saying that "If they see anything aftermarket, or something nonfactory, stop what you are doing. Warranty is VOID!." That includes wheels and tires guys.
They took pictures of my wheels and tires.

How 90% of these things are blowing, is the engine is direct injected, so the injector under WOT is at 2400psi of pressure. Well they are failing and getting stuck open. Flooding the cylinder and hydrolocking.

I know you guys love these trucks as I did mine, but they have some major issues.

Heres a guy that lost 4 motors in so many months.

http://www.f150forum.com/f70/first-time-my-eco-blew-up-208912/

Really, odd as I don't see this at all......and I may have a little more info then you as a moderator on a forum.

SuperCoupeDave
03-10-2015, 10:07 AM
Wasn't your truck modded to over 550 rwhp ? We have been using the F-150 ecoboost trucks in our company fleet since 2011 and haven't had any issues on numerous trucks that are daily driven and traded in at about 130K miles.

David
I did have mine heavily modded, but only to about 490whp and 600wtq. But bone stock Ecos have blown more than modded Ecos.

Check out the link I posted.

I didn't want to sound like a d**K. I just wanted others to know, that there are quite a few that have blown, and that Ford is looking for any reason to not cover warranty it if it blows.

So I would not do any modifications what so ever.

SuperCoupeDave
03-10-2015, 10:07 AM
Really, odd as I don't see this at all......and I may have a little more info then you as a moderator on a forum.

Which Forum?

rzimmerl
03-10-2015, 11:22 AM
Sorrry, you said you are Admin not a moderator. I'm not either any forums for specific reasons.

BirdofPrey97
03-10-2015, 11:42 AM
Nice scare tactic. We have ran over 5,000 of the ecoboost and have not lost a single engine. Miles? We put over 2 million miles a year with those trucks. What do we do with them? Farm chores basically. Hauling nothing to over loaded. Whatever has needed work has ALL been covered under warranty. These trucks are all stock mechanically, but some have different sized tires on them.

I talked to our Ford techs and some at other dealerships I have known for years and the above mentioned memo sent out was not received by any of the 12 that I know.

90% are blowing up though....

SuperCoupeDave
03-10-2015, 11:49 AM
Nice scare tactic. We have ran over 5,000 of the ecoboost and have not lost a single engine. Miles? We put over 2 million miles a year with those trucks. What do we do with them? Farm chores basically. Hauling nothing to over loaded. Whatever has needed work has ALL been covered under warranty. These trucks are all stock mechanically, but some have different sized tires on them.

I talked to our Ford techs and some at other dealerships I have known for years and the above mentioned memo sent out was not received by any of the 12 that I know.

90% are blowing up though....
First of all, this is no scare tactic. I never said 90% are blowing.
Last year, there was 38 that blew, I believe. I'll have to go back and look. this year so far there has been 24.

By the way, I highly doubt you have put 2 million miles on your 2 EcoBoost trucks. I don't think any gas engine would make it that many miles without have an overhaul.

Believe what ever you want to believe dude.
I was just giving a friendly warning. I don't want to see anyone go through the hell I've gone through.


BTW, I guess you didn't click on the link I posted. Hell just google it.

BirdofPrey97
03-10-2015, 12:55 PM
First of all, this is no scare tactic. I never said 90% are blowing.
Last year, there was 38 that blew, I believe. I'll have to go back and look. this year so far there has been 24.

By the way, I highly doubt you have put 2 million miles on your 2 EcoBoost trucks. I don't think any gas engine would make it that many miles without have an overhaul.

Believe what ever you want to believe dude.
I was just giving a friendly warning. I don't want to see anyone go through the hell I've gone through.


BTW, I guess you didn't click on the link I posted. Hell just google it.

Please read your previous post: Copied below.


Just what ever you do don't mod it!!

How 90% of these things are blowing,

http://www.f150forum.com/f70/first-time-my-eco-blew-up-208912/

I do not own two EB pick ups. I own one. The other EB engine is in another vehicle. The 5,000 trucks mentioned above is for the company I work for. The 2 million miles is what we put on per year. That 5,000 is from the time EBs became available in the F-150 2011 wasn't it.?.

We have more vehicles and several 5.3 Chevys, Dodge Hemis and Ford 6.7s, Chevy D'max and even some new Dodge 1500 with diesels.

The comment of the DI injectors locking at 2400 PSI is interesting as the delivery rate for the injectors was at one time only 2150 psi.

Total mileage since 2011 on the F-150s would be around 1250 trucks per year for 4 year = 5,000 trucks. We trade them in when they hit 100,000 miles. That would mean we have turned 80 of those 5,000 back in. I know we have returned more then that, but the numbers with all the vehicles is hard to get a crunch on in this short of time. If anything the 2 million miles is low as I only went back to 2012, which would eliminate 1,250 trucks, so we can say 8,000,000 miles on 3,750 trucks.

BirdofPrey97
03-10-2015, 01:30 PM
The forum you are referencing has 186,216 members total. How many of them have EBs? Less then that, but we will say to be safe all of them do and round up to 200,000 if you want.

200,000 trucks for says they sell a F-150 every 14 seconds that is 691,200 trucks per year based on an 8 hour day and 360 days in a year that they are open.

Take 691,200 times 4 years =2,764,800 trucks sold since the EB was introduced.

Including all the trucks on that forum they represent 7% of the trucks in the 2011-2015 time frame and the forum goes back to what year? When the F150 originally existed? That would drastically reduce the number from the 7% to probably less then 1%.

The representation just isn't there to get more then vague information from. If you use the actual number of 186,216 it is less then 6%.

davec73
03-10-2015, 02:01 PM
I am a member of f150 forum and all the eb guys on that site live eat and sleep modding there trucks. The small # of fatalities you posted in relation to how many of these trucks are out there probably doesn't equal .25% of them and if you consider that to be "dropping like flies" I'd hate to sell you a truck. BTW one of the guys that is a member here is an engineer in the plant where the 3.5 eco is made lol.

BirdofPrey97
03-10-2015, 03:20 PM
If you guys want 2 keys use the link I sent. $150 for the remote start shipped to you with both keys.

Jacob_Royer
03-10-2015, 09:02 PM
If you guys want 2 keys use the link I sent. $150 for the remote start shipped to you with both keys.

sweet!!!!! Not a bad deal at all!!!

SuperCoupeDave
03-11-2015, 10:54 AM
Please read your previous post: Copied below.



I do not own two EB pick ups. I own one. The other EB engine is in another vehicle. The 5,000 trucks mentioned above is for the company I work for. The 2 million miles is what we put on per year. That 5,000 is from the time EBs became available in the F-150 2011 wasn't it.?.

We have more vehicles and several 5.3 Chevys, Dodge Hemis and Ford 6.7s, Chevy D'max and even some new Dodge 1500 with diesels.

The comment of the DI injectors locking at 2400 PSI is interesting as the delivery rate for the injectors was at one time only 2150 psi.

Total mileage since 2011 on the F-150s would be around 1250 trucks per year for 4 year = 5,000 trucks. We trade them in when they hit 100,000 miles. That would mean we have turned 80 of those 5,000 back in. I know we have returned more then that, but the numbers with all the vehicles is hard to get a crunch on in this short of time. If anything the 2 million miles is low as I only went back to 2012, which would eliminate 1,250 trucks, so we can say 8,000,000 miles on 3,750 trucks.

I should have worded my post better.

I meant 90% of the ones that have blown. Not 90% of all Ecos have blown. Sorry.lol

Guys I'm not trying to be a dick really. I just want to let others know that, there have been, I say many but I realize that there is so many out there, that its probably a small percentage, that have blown.

Ford CAN tell if you have been tuned, no matter what anyone tells you. And they will void the warranty if they see any aftermarket parts.

I'm going through it right now.

And Bird, Even though I had full bolt ons, I never ever drove my truck hard. It makes me sick that I have a 40k truck sitting in my garage with a blown motor.
13k for a new motor W/ install. Fortunately I found a salvage motor with 7k miles on it for $3,400.

rzimmerl
03-11-2015, 11:45 AM
I should have worded my post better.

I meant 90% of the ones that have blown. Not 90% of all Ecos have blown. Sorry.lol

Guys I'm not trying to be a dick really. I just want to let others know that, there have been, I say many but I realize that there is so many out there, that its probably a small percentage, that have blown.

Ford CAN tell if you have been tuned, no matter what anyone tells you. And they will void the warranty if they see any aftermarket parts.



First statement is still not valid.

Yes Ford can tell the exact date and time the PCM has been changed, and it does have memory also.

David Neibert
03-11-2015, 12:18 PM
Yes Ford can tell the exact date and time the PCM has been changed, and it does have memory also.

And this is exactly why I haven't done any mods to my 14 GT500 that requires changing the tune.

David

91bird
03-11-2015, 05:32 PM
Maybe a dumb question but I love those ecoboost trucks and wonder what kind of mileage you guys are getting from them under normal driving.
I drive an 03 expedition that I am thinking of replacing, but I still need a truck to pull my fishing rig so.... would love an ecoboost just not sure how much better it would be on gas. I drive 140km a day to and from work now so its becoming an issue with the old expo. lol
Just wondering?
Thanks
Drew

Jacob_Royer
03-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Maybe a dumb question but I love those ecoboost trucks and wonder what kind of mileage you guys are getting from them under normal driving.
I drive an 03 expedition that I am thinking of replacing, but I still need a truck to pull my fishing rig so.... would love an ecoboost just not sure how much better it would be on gas. I drive 140km a day to and from work now so its becoming an issue with the old expo. lol
Just wondering?
Thanks
Drew

Im seeing 20mpg mixed driving being nice to it

pro street rich
03-11-2015, 09:21 PM
Maybe a dumb question but I love those ecoboost trucks and wonder what kind of mileage you guys are getting from them under normal driving.
I drive an 03 expedition that I am thinking of replacing, but I still need a truck to pull my fishing rig so.... would love an ecoboost just not sure how much better it would be on gas. I drive 140km a day to and from work now so its becoming an issue with the old expo. lol
Just wondering?
Thanks
Drew

I have gotten as much as 22 mpg on the highway with an eco in stock form in a super crew F150. That is about where most people are running.. Now my wife's SHO got a best of 30.2 mpg on a trip we took when it had about 15,000 miles on it and this was during the summer...when it was bone stock... Now we are running around 22- 24 with it now.. sure we gave up some mpg's for the power but I am not going back any time soon.....Rich

SCrazy
03-12-2015, 07:42 AM
Between 16 & 17 mpg summer mixed driving with the 3.73 gears.....15mpg winter.

22!!! You guys are high

pro street rich
03-12-2015, 07:56 AM
Between 16 & 17 mpg summer mixed driving with the 3.73 gears.....15mpg winter.

22!!! You guys are high

with the 3:31 gear and the cruise set a 70 you can get good mpg"s if you are really trying to. This was in the summer and that does make a difference.. Add to that a cover over the bed to help with the "box drag" and it is do able ....Rich

pro street rich
03-12-2015, 08:00 AM
Between 16 & 17 mpg summer mixed driving with the 3.73 gears.....15mpg winter.

22!!! You guys are high

If you have more of a highway tire that will also help your mpg. If you got the off road tires or you got the bigger tires on your truck both of them will drop your mileage... So you got to look at all the different things that will help or hurt your numbers....Rich

SCrazy
03-12-2015, 08:02 AM
If you have more of a highway tire that will also help your mpg. If you got the off road tires or you got the bigger tires on your truck both of them will drop your mileage... So you got to look at all the different things that will help or hurt your numbers....Rich

Mine also the FX4 and has the factory "off road" tires on it.....so yea that doesn't help

SuperCoupeDave
03-12-2015, 10:37 AM
Maybe a dumb question but I love those ecoboost trucks and wonder what kind of mileage you guys are getting from them under normal driving.
I drive an 03 expedition that I am thinking of replacing, but I still need a truck to pull my fishing rig so.... would love an ecoboost just not sure how much better it would be on gas. I drive 140km a day to and from work now so its becoming an issue with the old expo. lol
Just wondering?
Thanks
Drew

Before I changed my wheels and tires, I was getting 17-18city and 21-22 hwy.

After I put my heavy 22s on, I was getting 15-16city and 17-18 hwy

91bird
03-12-2015, 07:42 PM
Thanks for the input on the mileage guys. Much appreciated.
Jacob, Truck looks real nice BTW.

Drew

Jacob_Royer
03-13-2015, 11:32 AM
Ok a little update apparently I have 3.55 gears i thought i had the 3.73. Anyway yesterday i put over 550 miles on it towing and all i can say is WOW! Pulled a heavy all steal trailer through the hills of the western KY parkway at 75/80mph and averaged 15MPG unloaded and 13.2mpg on the way back with A SC on the trailer. Also 75/80mph and mostly uphill! There are some absolutely NASTY hills on that route and the truck pulled them like they where nothing! I breezed past big rigs and diesel trucks like they where sitting still! the ONLY time it even downshifted out of 6th gear was if i had to slow down to 60mph or so and only when i'd hit resume on the cruise control! If i held 70mph+ it would NOT kick down out of 6th regardless of the grade! The build in trailer brakes are beyond excellent! The tow haul mode downshifts when you are braking which also is VERY nice! Other than being a little bouncier you barely can tell you are towing anything stopping or accelerating! The empty trailer vs trailer with the SC on it you could NOT tell any difference accelerating whatsoever other than you could here the turbo's working a little more. I can honestly say towing an SC is less effort for the ecoboost than just driving my Chevy truck was! there are hills that my Chevy would kick out of overdrive on just driving it that the Ecoboost pulled the car up and didn't even break a sweat! IMO the little 3.5 would laugh at a stock 7.3 powerstroke when it comes to towing! the MPG towing considering i did NOT baby it at all ran fast, passed people, merged quickly ETC and the very long steep grades i was MORE than happy with it! I'd have been lucky to get 13.2mpg driving my chevy truck the same route with no trailer at those speeds! Towing i'd have been 10mpg at best and probably still be on the road trying to climb a hill :) I dropped the trailer in Frankfort KY set the cruise on 75mph on i64 and 60mph when i got on highway 150 and the 86miles drive home i got 22.9mpg empty! I am EXTREMELY happy with the truck!! The ride is awesome the power is awesome and its very comfortable!

BirdofPrey97
03-13-2015, 12:04 PM
Which grade of fuel are you using? If you want the oasis report on the truck send me the vin.

Jacob_Royer
03-13-2015, 12:08 PM
I am running 87 octane in it. Does premium make any difference on these things?

pro street rich
03-13-2015, 07:39 PM
I am running 87 octane in it. Does premium make any difference on these things?

If you use 87 you are fine, if you go up to the 93 you pick up % more hp, so you tell me is it worth the .50 a gal more?? I only run the good stuff when I go racing. the rest of the time it is the cheap stuff.....Rich

Jacob_Royer
04-21-2015, 05:45 PM
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UPR Oil Seperator installed!

SuperCoupeDave
04-22-2015, 10:21 AM
I got my 13 EcoBoost back with its new motor. So far its running great! Too bad I had to spend 8k, but that's what you get when you mod.:cool:

dave377
04-22-2015, 10:47 AM
I was just wandering, how did the truck run with the mods you had done to it.

David Neibert
04-22-2015, 04:50 PM
Not doing any mods to our new ecoboost F150, cause it's a friggin truck.

David

Jacob_Royer
04-22-2015, 07:14 PM
Not doing any mods to our new ecoboost F150, cause it's a friggin truck.

David

Thats what i said BUT the UPR catch can is a must mod IMO in 90 miles i had 6oz of crap in it! There is not modification cutting drilling anything involved in this kit and it wont void your warranty so far my random missfire lugging on it is completely gone.

David Neibert
04-24-2015, 11:16 AM
Thats what i said BUT the UPR catch can is a must mod IMO in 90 miles i had 6oz of crap in it! There is not modification cutting drilling anything involved in this kit and it wont void your warranty so far my random missfire lugging on it is completely gone.

If it was something special instead of just being a truck or if it only collected a few ounces of oil mist between oil changes, I would do it. But this thing is pulling 8-12 oz of water and some oily looking crap out of the motor in less than a 1000 miles. If that much water was actually getting into the oil pan the bearings would be destroyed very quickly, so I think something else is happening to collect all that water in the catch can.

I've got a catch can on my 93 SC and oil separators on my 91 SC and 14 GT500, so it's not like I don't think they are worthwhile.

David

KMT
04-24-2015, 11:28 AM
I'm sure you know, it's typically condensate inside the engine that doesn't get burned off that causes the buildup. Sitting parked more often than not, and not being driven up to temp on a regular basis is usually the issue.

Cold/wet weather and short drives where the engine sneaks up to operating temps gradually, if at all, will always generate more intake milk in the dual vapor traps on my SC. Living in Oregon doesn't help.

BirdofPrey97
04-24-2015, 12:06 PM
Mine has dropped off in production as it doesn't sit near as much as it did and the IC was never drained before the canister was installed. The oil does turn milky and yes, it has came out of the dipstick tube on several trucks raising the level of oil/contamination that far.

As far as the engine not getting up to temp mine is driven 50 miles one way at 70mph for 40 miles of that. It has plenty of time to get up to temp.

Jacob is there a reason you went with the smaller canister?

The canister out in front of the engine bay does tend to collect more as it has the biggest temp difference compared to the canister being mounted in the engine bay. These engine bays are pretty much closed up on all sides.

KMT
04-24-2015, 12:25 PM
My traps filled faster at one time, for a few weeks, and it turned out my thermostat was stuck open.

SuperCoupeDave
04-24-2015, 03:56 PM
I was just wandering, how did the truck run with the mods you had done to it.
Like stink! Really the best mods to get for power are, down pipes, intercooler, meth, and of course tune. I went full bolt-ons to say I had full boltons.lol

Exhaust and CAI don't do anything for power.

SuperCoupeDave
04-24-2015, 04:00 PM
If it was something special instead of just being a truck or if it only collected a few ounces of oil mist between oil changes, I would do it. But this thing is pulling 8-12 oz of water and some oily looking crap out of the motor in less than a 1000 miles. If that much water was actually getting into the oil pan the bearings would be destroyed very quickly, so I think something else is happening to collect all that water in the catch can.

I've got a catch can on my 93 SC and oil separators on my 91 SC and 14 GT500, so it's not like I don't think they are worthwhile.

David

It not only removes contaminates from the crankcase that get sucked back into the motor but, it also reduces valve coking. Have you seen the valves on these direct injection engines with just 10k miles?
I'll see if I can post a pic. Gotta remember, you don't have fuel spraying before the valve on a direct injection motor. A catch can is pretty much a must with these engines.

shoalcracker
04-24-2015, 06:47 PM
Some comments.

Not sure how the catch can fits in.

Some carmakers, including BMW and Kia, have issued technical service bulletins (TSBs) to their dealers recommending that drivers use only name-brand detergent gasoline—without ethanol additives—and that they periodically add a fuel-system cleaner when they refuel. (A TSB is an alert that the automaker sends to dealers to warn about ongoing problems with individual models and how to fix them. It may allow dealers to make repairs at little or no cost to the customer as a goodwill gesture.)

Other automakers have devised an engineering fix that works while the car is oper~ating. It involves modifying the engine to spray a small amount of fuel directly onto the valves to help keep them clean.

Paul

Jacob_Royer
05-07-2015, 07:54 PM
Errrrrrr! after two tanks of gas the damn missfire came back so i replaced the coil boots and absolutely no change whatsoever... And ford said nothing was wrong with it.... smh

SuperCoupeDave
05-08-2015, 12:46 PM
Other automakers have devised an engineering fix that works while the car is oper~ating. It involves modifying the engine to spray a small amount of fuel directly onto the valves to help keep them clean.

Paul

Fords doing that with the new GT40. Its pretty much the same motor in the F150 with bigger and better turbos and the extra injector in the port.

There was a guy named Mike Bambic that created his own intake manifold for his Flex, that he mounted 6 injectors in that would spray strait E85. He made 600hp and 600tq to the wheels in that badboy.

Meth injection will help keep the valves clean, but even with meth and a catch can, the valves in my original motor were pretty nasty.

rzimmerl
05-09-2015, 12:17 PM
Fords doing that with the new GT40. Its pretty much the same motor in the F150 with bigger and better turbos and the extra injector in the port.

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It's little more different then just those few things, its bascially an entire new engine ;)

SuperCoupeDave
05-11-2015, 05:33 PM
It's little more different then just those few things, its bascially an entire new engine ;)
From the way they made it sound in the article I read, Its the same engine. Block, heads, cam, internals, ect. Different intake of course. I'll find the article.

Jacob_Royer
05-11-2015, 09:05 PM
Motorcraft plugs $40
Coil Boots $19
(1) COP $51
Oil Seperator $350

Still have a damn miss...

not to mention a 5hr sit at the dealer being told basically that nothing is wrong with it.....

I'm taking it to bedford ford screw heritage and if they dont make it right i'm getting a 5.0

All this over a missfire that came up the 2nd day i owned it that i NEVER SHOULD HAVE SPENT A PENNY OF MY $ on.... certified pre-owned my ~~~...SMH

SuperCoupeDave
05-12-2015, 11:33 AM
Motorcraft plugs $40
Coil Boots $19
(1) COP $51
Oil Seperator $350

Still have a damn miss...

not to mention a 5hr sit at the dealer being told basically that nothing is wrong with it.....

I'm taking it to bedford ford screw heritage and if they dont make it right i'm getting a 5.0

All this over a missfire that came up the 2nd day i owned it that i NEVER SHOULD HAVE SPENT A PENNY OF MY $ on.... certified pre-owned my ~~~...SMH
From what I've seen on the forums, the coils for these engines are crap.

Let me ask you this, is your miss at idle, cruise or WOT?

EDIT: The reason I ask is, these engines don't like a spark plug gap over .030. I put mine at .028.

rzimmerl
05-12-2015, 01:07 PM
From the way they made it sound in the article I read, Its the same engine. Block, heads, cam, internals, ect. Different intake of course. I'll find the article.

Nope is all I can say to all that for the new GT.

The current Rolex cars used production parts just like you mention.

rzimmerl
05-12-2015, 01:10 PM
Motorcraft plugs $40
Coil Boots $19
(1) COP $51
Oil Seperator $350

Still have a damn miss...

not to mention a 5hr sit at the dealer being told basically that nothing is wrong with it.....

I'm taking it to bedford ford screw heritage and if they dont make it right i'm getting a 5.0

All this over a missfire that came up the 2nd day i owned it that i NEVER SHOULD HAVE SPENT A PENNY OF MY $ on.... certified pre-owned my ~~~...SMH

Being that you found Autolite spark plugs in it when you took them out, says that some over mechanic has done work on this truck before and wasn't a dealer.

Jacob_Royer
05-12-2015, 07:13 PM
Yes i found it odd that it had autolight plugs. I'm assuming previous owner got tired of it miss-firie and tried to fix it himself. Oddly when i put the separater on i had no miss-fire for 2 tanks of gas (if i did it was unnoticeable)

1FSTBRD
05-12-2015, 08:14 PM
Thats what i said BUT the UPR catch can is a must mod IMO in 90 miles i had 6oz of crap in it! There is not modification cutting drilling anything involved in this kit and it wont void your warranty so far my random missfire lugging on it is completely gone.

Though I don't have your truck, I can say that on my Mustang, the PCV sucks up a ridiculous amount of oil, blowby and crud into the intake. I opened my air/ oil separator mid-way through last winter, and the combination of the oil, blowby and condensation looked like a chocolate milkshake. When I cleaned my intakes out last year, the balance of the crud seemed to gum up by the EGR bungs in the lower intake, and coupled with the soot from the EGR, it pretty much baked a lot of stuff on there pretty good.

David Neibert
05-13-2015, 02:31 PM
Yes i found it odd that it had autolight plugs. I'm assuming previous owner got tired of it miss-firie and tried to fix it himself. Oddly when i put the separater on i had no miss-fire for 2 tanks of gas (if i did it was unnoticeable)

So what ever happened with the misfire issue ?

David

Jacob_Royer
05-13-2015, 08:57 PM
So what ever happened with the misfire issue ?

David

It left when i did the oil seperator than a few weeks later it came back worse than before!

820
05-13-2015, 09:19 PM
Does it throw any type of code?

Jacob_Royer
05-14-2015, 01:04 AM
Does it throw any type of code?

No codes whatsoever I wish it did!

SuperCoupeDave
05-14-2015, 11:35 AM
No codes whatsoever I wish it did!

Where is your spark plug gap set at? Does the misfire happen at idle, cruise or WOT?

Jacob_Royer
05-14-2015, 05:04 PM
.035 if i recall it was where they come gaped now which was what the recomended gap is. The miss is only in 6th gear on a hill around 55/60mph where EVERYONE has a missfire on the ecoboost

SuperCoupeDave
05-15-2015, 10:19 AM
.035 if i recall it was where they come gaped now which was what the recomended gap is. The miss is only in 6th gear on a hill around 55/60mph where EVERYONE has a missfire on the ecoboost
REGAP YOUR PLUGS! Trust me. I've been working with these engines since they came out. What you are getting is spark blow out. .035 is way to wide of a gap. Pull them and regap them to no more than .030. I gap mine to .028 but I'm tuned, and hold 20 psi of boost.

The reason most get misfires is because of the gap being to wide. Trust me on this. Everyone who has experienced misfires, is because their gap is to wide.
Its easy to pull the plugs on these engines. If regapping doesn't help then you got other issues, but I can pretty much guaranty that it will fix your problem.

Jacob_Royer
05-15-2015, 10:59 AM
REGAP YOUR PLUGS! Trust me. I've been working with these engines since they came out. What you are getting is spark blow out. .035 is way to wide of a gap. Pull them and regap them to no more than .030. I gap mine to .028 but I'm tuned, and hold 20 psi of boost.

The reason most get misfires is because of the gap being to wide. Trust me on this. Everyone who has experienced misfires, is because their gap is to wide.
Its easy to pull the plugs on these engines. If regapping doesn't help then you got other issues, but I can pretty much guaranty that it will fix your problem.


They are sp-534-6 motor craft plugs and they're gasped to .030 (I had to look at the box anf see wgat I wrote down)

SuperCoupeDave
05-15-2015, 11:03 AM
They are sp-534-6 motor craft plugs and they're gasped to .030 (I had to look at the box anf see wgat I wrote down)

That's what I thought. Like I said I gap mine to .028, but I assume you are running 100% stock?

The coils are known to be crap, so you may have a bad coil.

Jacob_Royer
05-15-2015, 11:22 AM
That's what I thought. Like I said I gap mine to .028, but I assume you are running 100% stock?

The coils are known to be crap, so you may have a bad coil.

Yes its bone stock other than the upr dual valve catch can

Jacob_Royer
05-20-2015, 04:09 PM
Well after it sitting at the dealer since sunday they finally say they found the problem. At first they thought it was the torque converter not unlocking in 6th gear but eventually traced it down to a bad plug on the boost sensor which the tech said can cause all kinds of strange issues. I am going to try to pick it up this evening and see if it is actually fixed or not.

Jacob_Royer
05-20-2015, 04:26 PM
They just called to tell me it was ready to pickup. Initially they scared the hell out of me because they said "we replaced 5 coils trying to figure out the miss fire (one i had brand new because of a crack and showed them which ones was a new coil) Anyway they said since they are already in and you had all this trouble we feel better to just send it back with all new ones" so i am thinking crap i bet i eat the cost of this! and they said they submited them to ESP and since i have premium plus it was a covered repair! I have to run some errands and then i will pick the truck up and see if it is fixed. I am fairly confident that it is because they verified that is was miss firing (unlike the dealership i bought it from).

David Neibert
05-21-2015, 01:11 PM
They just called to tell me it was ready to pickup. Initially they scared the hell out of me because they said "we replaced 5 coils trying to figure out the miss fire (one i had brand new because of a crack and showed them which ones was a new coil) Anyway they said since they are already in and you had all this trouble we feel better to just send it back with all new ones" so i am thinking crap i bet i eat the cost of this! and they said they submited them to ESP and since i have premium plus it was a covered repair! I have to run some errands and then i will pick the truck up and see if it is fixed. I am fairly confident that it is because they verified that is was miss firing (unlike the dealership i bought it from).

So they replaced coils first, then found the problem was actually from a bad connector on a boost sensor, but they decided to leave the coils on the motor since you weren't paying for them ??

David

Jacob_Royer
05-21-2015, 04:47 PM
So they replaced coils first, then found the problem was actually from a bad connector on a boost sensor, but they decided to leave the coils on the motor since you weren't paying for them ??

David

the 5 coil packs they replaced in attempt to diagnose the problem because of random cyl missfire detected when they had a computer hooked to it. I guess if you have Ford ESP Premium it will actually cover the Coils. I got the impression that it did NOT cover them! when i took it to the original dealer they pointed out a crack in the top of one of the coils and said "that is not hurting anything and the warranty does not cover coils" When its all said and done the boost sensor apparently was the cause of all the problems. I have drove it 200 miles without a missfire and it pulls hills much easier than it did and my average MPG is sitting on 22mpg so far!

rzimmerl
05-21-2015, 06:02 PM
Didn't you get a the pamphlet with all the items covered under ESP?

Jacob_Royer
05-21-2015, 07:05 PM
Didn't you get a the pamphlet with all the items covered under ESP?

I did! And I did not see anything about the coils

SuperCoupeDave
05-22-2015, 02:07 PM
Misfires seem to be a big problem with these engines. On my forum, I see a compliant every single day. Lately I've seen a few complaints on the 5.0s.

Fortunately I have never had a misfire in my. Ive blown a motor but never one misfire.lol