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potshotscott
03-11-2017, 04:14 PM
Asking for an opinion. I have the stitching on the typical small leather pieces between the middle seat and the two outer seat positions in the back coming apart. I am sure its because the leather is older and slightly brittle even though I use leather cleaner and conditioner three times a year.

The opinion question is this - what do you all think about the idea of patching in new, slightly larger leather pieces with heavy stitching? It won't look factory but it won't be all ripped up. Have any of you done that?

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KMT
03-11-2017, 05:28 PM
Mine was failing, but not as bad as yours. I had a local upholstery shop give me an estimate, which wasn't too bad, but before I got around to yanking it out, I found a nice condition blue donor bolster in a local yard. Mine was black so I dyed it. I figured I'd get the original bolster repaired and put it back in, but then I found another that was black, so in it went.

I'm not sure heavier materials would make much of a difference - mainly it's how that area takes a beating over the years from the sun. I'd just have it repaired...looks like it just needs stitching? Or with fresh panels & quality thread, keep it greased and then tint the back window. Drape a bath towel over it during the summer, perhaps.

Ken

DrFishbone
03-14-2017, 11:57 AM
I had one that had been replaced by vinyl instead...the match was nearly perfect and I'm sure it was cheaper to have done. Much of the leather interior is vinyl anyway. ;)

KMT
03-14-2017, 12:02 PM
Much of the leather interior is vinyl anyway. ;)

Didn't Duffy used to tell us that some of the leather was vinyl 'coated' and that's why saddle soap was a waste of time?

jco1385
03-14-2017, 12:08 PM
Only the parts of the seat that you touch when you sit are leather. The sides and back are vinyl.

J dot Miller
03-14-2017, 02:23 PM
I prefer cloth, since it is so much less work. My Gold XR7 had leather and I treated it with conditioner every three months. Still it developed cracks (with factory 2 year old replacements). I have been treating my 2016 SS the same and it looks like new after 2 years. I believe Chevrolet puts leather on top of Vinyl which allows them to last loner. Still, I prefer black cloth like I have in my Red 90 XR7. Vacuuming every now is all it needs. :)

KMT
03-14-2017, 02:40 PM
I prefer cloth

Wonder which brings more $ on resale...

My Anny lets me sit on pig skin and isn't my DD now, which falls to my 2002 Windstar w/cloth - I don't mind either.

DrFishbone
03-15-2017, 12:22 PM
Didn't Duffy used to tell us that some of the leather was vinyl 'coated' and that's why saddle soap was a waste of time?

I'm not sure what is meant by that. Vinyl fabricate is "vinyl coated" if you think about it.

There are several places (include the seat backs, as was mentioned) where factory "leather seats" are really vinyl fabric.

IIRC.....the "sides" of the front seat bottoms, the headrest, the seat backs were all vinyl. The entire seating surface for the rear seats is originally all leather, I think.

KMT
03-15-2017, 12:53 PM
The entire seating surface for the rear seats is originally all leather, I think.

Right (except on the Anny where the seat middles are pig suede), and much of the bolster, of course, as well as the front seat side bolsters & headrests, and steering wheel wrap. Door pulls?

I think alacantra would be good re-do for a rear bolster, vs. vinyl, as an example.

Ken

potshotscott
03-15-2017, 02:07 PM
So if I pull this out and take it apart can I re-stitch it? I feel like it will just fall apart if I do.

DrFishbone
03-15-2017, 02:19 PM
So if I pull this out and take it apart can I re-stitch it? I feel like it will just fall apart if I do.

No way...you need new material for sure.

KMT
03-15-2017, 02:26 PM
So if I pull this out and take it apart can I re-stitch it? I feel like it will just fall apart if I do.

You might be able to re-stitch the one side that's only just pulled w/o taking it apart, but the side that's blown out would need to be taken apart and started over, and at that point, might as well use new fresh panels.

I tried doing mine by hand and gave up...the shop I showed it to insisted on fresh panels.

MadMikeyL
03-15-2017, 03:11 PM
I would pull it apart and re-stitch it, but get some new leather back behind the stitches to act as a backer to prevent it from pulling through again.

potshotscott
03-15-2017, 07:05 PM
KMT - where did you have it done and how much did it cost you? I'm only an hour away from you.

KMT
03-15-2017, 07:47 PM
KMT - where did you have it done and how much did it cost you? I'm only an hour away from you.

That was at least 3 yrs. ago - try 'Auto Upholstery & Convertible Tops' (Richard?) 3530B SW Multnomah Blvd. in SW Portland/Multnomah Village - I'm not sure it's there now. He wanted $65 back then, if I pulled the bolster, walked it in and worked w/his schedule.

Yellow store front, left of MVP Volvo Repair (https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x54950b73bf3704b7%3A0x94e12fe9fb7a1a4d!2m19 !2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m13!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2! 1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!3m1!7e115!4s%2Fmap s%2Fplace%2Fvolvo%2Brepair%2Bmultnomah%2Bblvd%2F%4 045.4672732%2C-122.7136999%2C3a%2C75y%2C198.42h%2C90t%2Fdata%3D*2 13m4*211e1*213m2*211sW8LKQp7hYWh_WjAUODJBzw*212e0* 214m2*213m1*211s0x0%3A0x94e12fe9fb7a1a4d%3Fhl%3Den !5svolvo%20repair%20multnomah%20blvd%20-%20Google%20Search&imagekey=!1e2!2sW8LKQp7hYWh_WjAUODJBzw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0ps3W3dnSAhUM6GMKHdacBuEQpx8IcDAK)

Ken

TBirdJKC
03-15-2017, 08:40 PM
Didn't Duffy used to tell us that some of the leather was vinyl 'coated' and that's why saddle soap was a waste of time?

I thought I remembered someone saying there was a protective film over the leather too. I think they tried removing it with brake fluid on a rag. I don't know if I would be that daring. But if I recall correctly, it worked.

J dot Miller
03-17-2017, 07:10 PM
Wonder which brings more $ on resale...

My Anny lets me sit on pig skin and isn't my DD now, which falls to my 2002 Windstar w/cloth - I don't mind either.

Ha ha you are funny. Like our cars are worth anything. We mod them to our liking not for resale. :eek:

KMT
03-17-2017, 08:03 PM
We mod them to our liking not for resale.

;) Cheaper to keep 'er

Last car I modded for resale was a '49 Ford...went from a 6 cyl. flathead to an 8. Turned a sweet $50 profit on that one and it didn't even _have_ seats.