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Tim Groth
05-25-2017, 03:01 PM
As some know, my Pearl 95 SC has been down since the big Carlisle 2015 Thunderbird Anny gathering. My trip to and from was nerve racking as the car developed issues (now traced to a melted wiring harnesses), entire trip the car ran with hesitation and missing...it was at that time I decided the best option was to entrust Chris Vining with my car to make the repairs needed. He had jokingly (or maybe seriously) had said "let me just fix the car correctly" ...so he took the car Fall of 2015. Together we set the expectation work would start when he wasn't busy at his shop and when the full build parts were in possession. At that time he and I developed a plan to build something right the first time. When something I needed would come on the boards/facebook to save a penny - he'd quickly text or call and it would be bought. Every part, gasket, fluid, cleaner I thought he would need was purchased. Did the majority of this for a full year, it's been a real work in progress and truly at times I forget that I own the car. I remind myself that the end results will be well worth the wait and effort that has been put in by everyone who is making this happen.

Before I get to far into this, I really want to give the credit due to those involved. Chris Vining, for doing all the heavy lifting. I feel fortunate that you like me enough to want to work on my junk. Dave Clark...for remembering our conversation over beers 2 years prior about wanting "dibs" on the AR Kit if you were to ever upgraded. Ken Wagner - thanks for building the parts needed for the AR Kit for my car, your craftsmanship and the parts you build for this platform are really special! Thank you !

The Changes:
MPX replaced with - 1.7 Autorotor Install
Home Grown Front mount setup replaced with - MP Front Mount Setup / Griffin Fan Designed for Unit
95mm MP throttlebody
Install A/C back into the car - every piece brand new.
New Plugs/wires/fluids
Engine Bay Cleaned up / Painted
Snow Kit Installed
LC1 Wide Band kit installed
Aeromotive 340 Fuel Pump installed
3 Gauge pillar pod installed
All new aftermarket pulleys - aluminum crank/water pump/jack shaft/power steering
Everything Chromed to avoid polishing work

Pictures to follow.

-Tim

Tim Groth
05-25-2017, 03:13 PM
So as for the starting point - Most remember my car and engine bay looking something like this:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/garage_attachment.php?id=4398
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/garage_attachment.php?id=3960

Needless to say after time in the elements and just sitting...Chris started off his work with:

http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/1.jpg
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/squirl.jpg
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/dirty


The engine bay with lots of filth removed:
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/39.png
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/821.png

Starting to clean things up - painting the needed areas to make it look show worthy:
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/2.jpg
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/3.jpg

The parts shipped off to be chromed and a few teaser pictures of what I've seen before shipping:
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/18.jpg
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/42.jpg

Ken Building the Plenums needed for the AR - and when it arrived:
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/89.jpg
http://www.mn12parts.com/sccoa/95build/90.jpg

-Tim

Jacob_Royer
05-25-2017, 04:18 PM
sweet! looks great i really need to do this myself

Ira R.
05-25-2017, 05:02 PM
Can't wait to see the finished product!

davec73
05-25-2017, 07:25 PM
When you pop the hood it will be kind of like looking at my own car lol

Creighton
05-25-2017, 10:04 PM
Looking forward to this finished ! Thanks for the post.
Pearl 95 here as well.
Creighton

Jimmy 2Coupes
05-25-2017, 11:40 PM
I to can't wait to read about the finished product but looks good now. Hopefully I'll get some encouragement from your project to start on my 95 SC.

Tim Groth
05-30-2017, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Still a long road ahead before this one is done. All chrome parts should be here this week, so hopefully Chris will send me some pictures so I can document this.

Here's another teaser I received. Alternator was rebuilt by someone Dave Clark knows...higher amp internals so I should be good there in the future.

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-Tim

Tim Groth
05-31-2017, 11:51 AM
Box 1 has arrived back from the chrome shop - really looks great! Feel it was worth the expense for the WOW factor and the ability to keep it clean. Can't wait for box 2 to show up later today.

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-Tim

JonS
05-31-2017, 01:52 PM
those look beautiful, Tim. I couldn't be that patient lol

nickleman60
05-31-2017, 03:14 PM
Box 1 has arrived back from the chrome shop - really looks great! Feel it was worth the expense for the WOW factor and the ability to keep it clean. Can't wait for box 2 to show up later today.

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-Tim

I see that you still plan on running that pain in the azz alternator bracket, why?

kenewagner
05-31-2017, 03:24 PM
Box 1 has arrived back from the chrome shop - really looks great! Feel it was worth the expense for the WOW factor and the ability to keep it clean. Can't wait for box 2 to show up later today.

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-Tim

Very Very nice.

Ken

Tim Groth
05-31-2017, 03:29 PM
I see that you still plan on running that pain in the azz alternator bracket, why?

It was sent by accident and because of that it was chromed. :) Guess it could always be installed to throw more bling...otherwise it will just be a piece of wall art in the garage.

-Tim

Creighton
05-31-2017, 06:29 PM
Wow. Going to be outstanding.
Creighton

Kennypaul26
05-31-2017, 10:50 PM
Box 1 has arrived back from the chrome shop - really looks great! Feel it was worth the expense for the WOW factor and the ability to keep it clean. Can't wait for box 2 to show up later today.

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-Tim


Ok.. new guy here.. my sc needs some serious love, and the whole chroming thing is brilliant. How much would it cost in your opinion for me to get all my pulleys and pipes, (supercharger tube also) chromed? This is a truly cool project!!!

davec73
05-31-2017, 11:07 PM
Ok.. new guy here.. my sc needs some serious love, and the whole chroming thing is brilliant. How much would it cost in your opinion for me to get all my pulleys and pipes, (supercharger tube also) chromed? This is a truly cool project!!!
Send me a list if the parts you want done but yiu can probably expect 700 to 1000.

Tim Groth
06-01-2017, 09:42 AM
Ok.. new guy here.. my sc needs some serious love, and the whole chroming thing is brilliant. How much would it cost in your opinion for me to get all my pulleys and pipes, (supercharger tube also) chromed? This is a truly cool project!!!

First welcome to the club - I have read your prior threads in the New Member section and also your For Sale thread listing. I am going to say posts like this is why you received such a hard "welcome" and in return you called all us SCCoA'ers "flamers" :D:p;).

Seems as though you're all over the place on what you have in mind for your car...I believe this is just excitement of the new ownership? I do hope you start to outline your goals and stick with it. 93 SCs are my personal favorite year - perfect blend of the early and late model SC. Truly you could have something really cool with a goal in mind.

I've been a member 17 years, owned a ton of SCs (many far uglier than your current starting point) and just now figuring out setting a yearly overall goal is the key. Shoot I have an '89 SC that the only goal is get from point A to B...start somewhere a follow through otherwise you'll be completely unsatisfied.

...now back on topic.

Chroming as mentioned by Dave is in the 700-1000 price point...St Louis Plating treated me right and I have nothing but positive to say about them and their work. If anyone needs there information LMK.

-Tim

XxSlowpokexX
06-01-2017, 03:48 PM
FINALLY!..Nice going guys!

pock1
06-01-2017, 03:52 PM
Hey Tim ur car is looking sweetttt.one day my car look as good as urs,...... As far as performance my pocket's are not that deep lol . when done I'm sure u will pull some nice numbers on the track.

Rodeo Joe
06-01-2017, 08:08 PM
It was sent by accident and because of that it was chromed. :) Guess it could always be installed to throw more bling...otherwise it will just be a piece of wall art in the garage.

-Tim
Let me know if you decide to get rid of it! :D

Looking good Tim!

Joe

figulaz
06-01-2017, 09:22 PM
I love to see the all out KB efforts on these cars. You've helped me few times with parts to keep my SCs up to spec and on the road. Keep up the great work and hope to see some video of it running soon!

Tim Groth
06-05-2017, 04:29 PM
The remaining items have returned ...pleasant surprise after Carlisle.

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-Tim

DrFishbone
06-05-2017, 04:50 PM
It was sent by accident and because of that it was chromed. :)

lol...Accidentally chromed it huh?

Looking like a good recipe, Tim. I'll have to make sure I have the shades handy during the carshows that your car shows up in. :eek:

davec73
06-05-2017, 05:07 PM
Git er done

CaifanSC
06-06-2017, 10:30 PM
Tim my brotha!

Stunning work man...how did you get the work done on the jackshaft pulley? Did you have to take it appart?

Tim Groth
06-07-2017, 11:01 AM
Tim my brotha!

Stunning work man...how did you get the work done on the jackshaft pulley? Did you have to take it appart?

Thanks Luis! Hope life is treating ya well in MD!

As for the Jackshaft - Chris tells me it won't spin by hand currently...Dave Clark had his done at the same place and it works fine :confused:... guess we may have to replace it but I will let ya know as I know.

-Tim

BLOWN38
12-23-2017, 11:26 PM
I had to press the jackshaft bearing assembly out and install a new/used one.

Here are some more pics of some powder I've done on the blower parts.

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BLOWN38
12-23-2017, 11:29 PM
And I drilled and tapped the oil pressure fitting for an aftermarket sending unit so we can keep the check gauge light from coming on.

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BLOWN38
12-23-2017, 11:48 PM
And a little special sauce in the clear. Having trouble uploading some of the pics.

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Nettlesd
12-24-2017, 05:45 PM
The remaining items have returned ...pleasant surprise after Carlisle.

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-Tim

You have my approval. I had all of those parts chromed years ago and I paid around the $600-$700 range. I had the jackshaft bearing pressed out and pressed back in when I received it. The chrome really makes the engine by pop. Good choice.

BLOWN38
12-24-2017, 09:53 PM
Muhahahaha

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David Neibert
12-28-2017, 04:17 PM
Cool Beans ! Do the entire motor in that stuff and no more flashlights needed.

David

Tim Groth
01-26-2018, 10:44 AM
Chris has been busy moving things along and well he sends me pictures to my phone document progress but I have been lazy with the updates on the thread. Since 95% of the bolt-on parts have been purchased from other members, most of the work has either been cleaning things up or giving it a personal touch. Thankfully Chris is willing to make improvements where needed or when I make a wild suggestion doing it for me.

One of the main suggestions was making the snout of the blower look nicer. The scratches in the snout really bothered me. I feel it's the focal point and it stood out to me. I told him down the road I would probably repaint it or purchase a polished one. Before I could finish my thought he sent me picture of the snout removed and him starting the process of polishing it.

Here are a few pictures he has sent, I will try to update it as he goes.
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-Tim

nickleman60
01-26-2018, 10:57 AM
Looking good Tim............................:D

rzimmerl
01-26-2018, 11:50 AM
Tim, you'll have a hard time to find the correct drive snout to fit the blower. You'll be better off sending the existing drive snout out for polishing. Don't ever remove the bolts holding the front case cover on either. Any questions about the blower let me know as this was mine at one time. Those marks are from the hoses I had for the catch can system that it had. The gun drilled pulley vent bolt option I had PSE do never worked right, and I purchased the correct Kenne Bell baffled catch can for it.

Tim Groth
01-26-2018, 03:11 PM
Tim, you'll have a hard time to find the correct drive snout to fit the blower. You'll be better off sending the existing drive snout out for polishing. Don't ever remove the bolts holding the front case cover on either. Any questions about the blower let me know as this was mine at one time. Those marks are from the hoses I had for the catch can system that it had. The gun drilled pulley vent bolt option I had PSE do never worked right, and I purchased the correct Kenne Bell baffled catch can for it.

I recall Dave Clark telling me it was your AR before he picked it up. Good to know the history! Also not sure what browser you're using but Chris fully polished the snout so it's good to go now.

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-Tim

89XR7TD
01-26-2018, 04:58 PM
Very nice, very nice!!! :)

NorthrnSCownr
01-26-2018, 09:07 PM
Really nice and classy! :cool:

DrFishbone
02-07-2018, 01:32 PM
It just occurred to me that the inlet and return pieces glow in the dark! lol

Any other glow-in-the-dark flare planned?! :D

Tim Groth
02-07-2018, 03:55 PM
It just occurred to me that the inlet and return pieces glow in the dark! lol

Any other glow-in-the-dark flare planned?! :D

The blower pulley glows also...it's chrome powder w/ glow clear. ;)

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-Tim

kenewagner
02-07-2018, 04:03 PM
When you pop the hood it will be kind of like looking at my own car lol

When you pop your hood Dave kinda of like looking at my old engine bay for some reason:rolleyes:

Ken

spetz01
02-17-2018, 09:06 PM
The glow in the dark paint... It needs to be charged up with light right? Do you have a clear hood?

Tim Groth
03-12-2018, 11:14 AM
Little update - spent the weekend in Northern VA helping Chris prep and paint the engine bay. Also thanks to Sherman Vining and Chuck Fulmer for remove harnesses and helping tape things off and moving the project along!

Just like any project seems like this one has been a constant 1 step forward then 2 steps back...I actually believe after this round of hiccups it should be smooth sailing for reassembly. After noticing some of the freeze plugs weeping, it was decided it would be best while at this point to replace all the freeze plugs, upgrade to the 6qt mustang oil pan and paint the engine bay. Also while traveling up I grabbed some new to me suspension parts - New Koni's all around and actual lowering springs (cars been riding cut factory springs for a few years). I bring up the suspension parts for the fact of explaining why the factory shocks weren't taped off - it's all being replaced.

Here's some pictures...first time I had seen the car in almost 2 years so it was pretty exciting for me. Forgot how good the car looks even in 100 pieces.

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-Tim

Tim Groth
03-12-2018, 11:16 AM
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davec73
03-12-2018, 05:36 PM
Looks really good man!

Ira R.
03-12-2018, 08:50 PM
Tim, which Koni's did you install? Did you replace the springs also? I'm still looking to replace the suspension but can't make up my mind how.

Ira

Jacob_Royer
03-12-2018, 09:16 PM
Taking this thing on the epic drive Tim?

Tim Groth
03-12-2018, 11:20 PM
Tim, which Koni's did you install? Did you replace the springs also? I'm still looking to replace the suspension but can't make up my mind how.

Ira

I was able to pick up a used set of the manually adjustable Koni inserts that were discontinued in 2011, Koni yellow rears and H&R lowering springs. Should be a nice upgrade over the 23 year old factory parts. Suspension really wasn't part of the original build but couldn't pass up the opportunity. Also the upper control arms were replaced, granted I thought I had done them once before...too many cars I suppose.

Every system on the car has been inspected and either repaired or improved at this point. Only made sense to keep it going at this point.

-Tim

Tim Groth
03-12-2018, 11:33 PM
Taking this thing on the epic drive Tim?

I wish...at this point the only destination I'm trying to make is the Hot Rod Power Tour. Wife is pregnant with kid #2, my son is 14mos so lots of give and take being played in the household. I'm trying to talk her into a weekend trip in Gatlinburg just to see everyone and their cars...hopefully she will consider it. Did the Dragon in the expedition and she cussed and screamed the entire time, so I doubt she would be game for that again. Dinner and parking lot banter I'm sure she would be open to however.

Guess time will tell.

-Tim

Jacob_Royer
03-13-2018, 02:47 AM
I wish...at this point the only destination I'm trying to make is the Hot Rod Power Tour. Wife is pregnant with kid #2, my son is 14mos so lots of give and take being played in the household. I'm trying to talk her into a weekend trip in Gatlinburg just to see everyone and their cars...hopefully she will consider it. Did the Dragon in the expedition and she cussed and screamed the entire time, so I doubt she would be game for that again. Dinner and parking lot banter I'm sure she would be open to however.

Guess time will tell.

-Tim

Depending on how the car does with the epic drive I may try to make a stop or two on power tour. Hopefully you can make it down to visit and or make the shootout! It hasn't been the same without you there man!

Tim Groth
03-13-2018, 02:02 PM
Depending on how the car does with the epic drive I may try to make a stop or two on power tour. Hopefully you can make it down to visit and or make the shootout! It hasn't been the same without you there man!

Yeah I hate that it's been so long since I've been to the shootout, it's been way too long and I hope to make that change once the cars back together.

-Tim

Tim Groth
04-17-2018, 04:42 PM
Just a few more pictures - while the engine was out to repaint the bay went ahead and installed a 6 qt mustang oil pan...Chris powder coated it the same color as the valve covers he did a few years back. The freeze plugs were replaced as several were weeping or slightly pushed out. Kind of a blessing this was caught before it was finished. He also checked the bottom end to make sure everything was within order...pretty surprised my name is still on the crank from 10 years ago when the work was done.

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Tim Groth
05-31-2018, 10:28 AM
Well a ton of progress has been made. I have pictures for days on my phone of the different steps and modifications that were completed to get us here. Hard to upload them on the forums without a desktop...I'll do it at some point for the sake of the thread.

Car runs tho. Amazingly fired right up with the previous tune for the MPX.

https://youtu.be/NCKFrE9P9qc

-Tim

J dot Miller
05-31-2018, 10:34 AM
Awesome. Looking forward to hopefully seeing it at Carlisle.

Tim Groth
05-31-2018, 11:26 AM
Awesome. Looking forward to hopefully seeing it at Carlisle.

I'll be there rain or shine - still doesn't feel real that my car is done, or that it's mine for that matter. Been a long time in the making. Extremely grateful for everyone in this club that has had a part be it large or small in making it happen.

-Tim

Ira R.
06-01-2018, 09:23 PM
Nice Tim. Good to see it running. One thing... was that the engine temp idling at 146 degrees? I hope not.

Tim Groth
06-05-2018, 05:43 PM
Nice Tim. Good to see it running. One thing... was that the engine temp idling at 146 degrees? I hope not.

I wish Ira - actually plan to check out your setup on the power tour, for we have pretty similar builds. My idling temps are 204-220 range with the MP front mount, and AC installed. The radiator, MP IC and fans were all purchased used so I am not sure if the fan is a SPAL 2000cfm like yours or something from a parts store.

I recall your previous build running higher temps in the summer...with the last upgrades has that improved?

-Tim

Tim Groth
08-20-2018, 08:30 PM
Suppose I should update this thread. The push to get ready for the HRPT slowed my updates and then life got in the way also. Lots of details of the struggles encountered during the tour in the events section of anyone cares to read in more detail.

Last 2 weeks of this build before the tour was a struggle, but determined to go Chris Vining put in some insane hours to get me there. Tour started on a Saturday and on the Wednesday before the 3inch radiator that came with my MP FMIC kit sprung a leak. Because of the short timeframes, chris fabbed mounts and we used a Brand new OE radiator. Needless to say, the car ran very hot for the first 2 stops of the power tour. For those who haven't completed a tour, you're basically going 5mph the last 2 miles into the venue on a 100 degree day...car was very unhappy. After thinking I was seconds away from HG failure, a radiator was sourced at the show. Found a 19x21x3 Cold Case radiator and with the help of smitty, some other tour goers and zip ties it was installed in the Days Inn parking lot in Chattanooga TN.

Over the last few weeks I've worked on mounting it perminately and also cleaning up some of the eye sores. The MP FMIC was used so it had several holes on the top surface...when they fabbed the mounts I had them also add an aluminum sheet to the top. Spent this week sanding out the cast MP FMIC and polishing it out since it was about the last piece to shine under my hood.

Here are some pictures...I'd say it's close to done now but we all know that's never true. I still have several odds and ends to button up before she gets body work done.


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-Tim

Tim Groth
08-20-2018, 08:36 PM
Hood ripped off at the Atlanta stop, granted we fixed at the track but made for a cool picture on the track.

Pictures of the half asses mount job that we were able to make the best of at the hotel. Again thanks to Smitty he saved me that day! Thanks man!

Last picture shows all the holes in the FMIC... can also see the HVAC zip tie holding the radiator in place.

Sorry the pictures are sideways...uploading em here and they shifted...maybe size?

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ricardoa1
08-21-2018, 03:26 PM
The engine is looking amazing. Hope you have a nice dry garage to keep things in great shape. Bling bling! Good job

Ira R.
08-22-2018, 04:25 AM
The car looks great Tim. Sorry I missed it on the Tour. Engine compartment is way too sparkly though :) And I love the wheels!

kenewagner
08-22-2018, 08:54 AM
The car looks great Tim. Sorry I missed it on the Tour. Engine compartment is way too sparkly though :) And I love the wheels!

You can never have to much sparkly Ira:p

Ken

BLOWN38
08-22-2018, 11:28 AM
Here is a nice dusk shot of the glow clear.

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Tim Groth
08-22-2018, 02:57 PM
Also the spare 17 inch spares from the Ford 500 I snagged from the pick n save fit.

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Tim Groth
08-22-2018, 03:02 PM
Downsized my camera resolution...just have to add coolant and she is back together.

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JonS
08-23-2018, 09:25 AM
Just wow! Very nice. I hope she drives as well as she looks