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Kennypaul26
05-30-2017, 10:54 PM
93 oxford white automatic with the keypad on the door. Leather interior. It's one of the ugliest ford's ever made especially since it sat outside for yeeeeaaars. but it runs. Has a spotless interior except the drivers seat, needs tires to drive on the road. Supercharger was completely redone and powdercoated.
Car is located in sebastian florida just a few clicks from miami. I'm not interested in dropping all my money into it just to get to work.. but that's me, someone may enjoy taking the time to check out how much of this car is actually in excellent shape, that someone may find the joy in their heart that I had before getting bashed on its uglyness. And being too broke to rebuild it as fast as you want to. Yeah its ugly, but it's solid. May trade for a daily driver hell even a 50cc scooter would make me smile more than owning this thing as my only car. If you have a bicycle with a motor plus cash I might even take that. I want 2k after all the side work I did for it plus the 1k cash I dropped. If you find one cheaper go for it. This is mine and I feel 2k is fair. If you catch me on a good day I might go for less.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212234_zpst5w0rrfs.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212234_zpst5w0rrfs.jpg.html)

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212223_zpswk03lamo.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212223_zpswk03lamo.jpg.html)
~http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212200_zpssiesqx5v.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212200_zpssiesqx5v.jpg.html)

~http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_214616_zpsx335yfk5.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_214616_zpsx335yfk5.jpg.html)

~http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_213106_zpsw0b1vqej.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_213106_zpsw0b1vqej.jpg.html)

Kennypaul26
05-31-2017, 02:57 AM
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212355_zps0tbyhj1e.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212355_zps0tbyhj1e.jpg.html)

~http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212603_zpsvcmcuert.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212603_zpsvcmcuert.jpg.html)

XxSlowpokexX
05-31-2017, 09:12 AM
Perhaps the worst for sale ad ever. I'd hate to see what you think of the next car you own lol

Kennypaul26
05-31-2017, 12:53 PM
Perhaps the worst for sale ad ever. I'd hate to see what you think of the next car you own lol

It's meant to be sarcastic. I've owned many cars and tbh it's not about the car it's about the drive. This may have been affordable to restore back when parts were available.. for me.. I'm tired of the negative comments about everything with no proposal or even a hint of positive feedback. Just pure flamers here at sccoa. No support. So yeah, ~~~~ this car and everything it stands for.

XxSlowpokexX
05-31-2017, 01:42 PM
I'm surprised no support as we love these cars. Parts to restore aren't all that expensive. And in stock form its a good ride. Me however I don't do stock. Even if you keep a realistic goal in mind an extra 100 rwhp isn't all that expensive. Car may be a bit beat up but doesn't seem like anything a good cleaning wont make look 100x better. Also miles are low and white with black interior is a nice combo...So I don't know man. I love my SC!

Kennypaul26
05-31-2017, 01:50 PM
I'm surprised no support as we love these cars. Parts to restore aren't all that expensive. And in stock form its a good ride. Me however I don't do stock. Even if you keep a realistic goal in mind an extra 100 rwhp isn't all that expensive. Car may be a bit beat up but doesn't seem like anything a good cleaning wont make look 100x better. Also miles are low and white with black interior is a nice combo...So I don't know man. I love my SC!

That's a little more like what I was originally feeling.. the pics look bad but I've been in the car and everything it's really about $1k from being an $8k car.. new harmonic balancer, everything but the paint, tires, driver seat, and that fender is near perfect. I've seen quite a few sc projects from start to finish in way worse condition with only 1800 invested.. and tbh, I'll go with stock high performance swaps, like 4.2 crank, MLS hg's, arp studs, 42lb injectors, 5%od pulley, and some love. It has fresh transmission fluid and oil. Like you could drink it if you could live off oil, and it would be like you just ate out a virgin. Cuz this car is bone stock with maybe an egr delete. Look on the intake what is that oval-diamond piece with the two holes...

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/20170514_212248%201_zps34r3drco.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/Kenny_Paul_Cifour/media/20170514_212248%201_zps34r3drco.jpg.html)

figulaz
05-31-2017, 11:26 PM
that would be where the Idle Air Control Valve bolts on. (IAC valve)

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 12:25 AM
that would be where the Idle Air Control Valve bolts on. (IAC valve)

So its either missing or laying around my mechanics house. Crazy question, know anyone willing to restore the motor of all bolts and missing parts for a decent price? I can do the body. I just need a decent price on all the bolts, and iac valve and an alternator, it works fine but it's ugly. Want a Shiney one. I was looking in another forum and some guy sent his set of pulleys and a few other parts off to get chromed. If I found out who to send it to for that I'll do it.

potshotscott
06-01-2017, 12:43 AM
I love free market economy. The item goes for the market price. Usually shocking the seller at the lack of perceived value.

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 11:42 AM
I love free market economy. The item goes for the market price. Usually shocking the seller at the lack of perceived value.

Yeah I've watched all the poor bastards that thought they were getting top dollar cars not even get offered over 3k for a pretty one.. to be honest the sc is just underappreciated, and too cheap in said market to value... costs 5k to build but only sells for 3k lol what a p.o.s. car choice I admit. Lowest I will take is $1,000 because that's what I paid. Between the smart ~~~'s on this site (most the smart asses have no life. Unlike the hard working men with actual usable information.) and the actual ~~~~~~ value of the sc, I'm done with it.

BUDXR7
06-01-2017, 12:28 PM
You think everybody here is a smartass? You continue to confirm what they're pointing out.

Get you're act together. Trust me, I have a life, and from what I've learned about you, I'd rather be me. Put down the crack pipe and take a good long look in the mirror.

Tim Groth
06-01-2017, 02:45 PM
. I was looking in another forum and some guy sent his set of pulleys and a few other parts off to get chromed. If I found out who to send it to for that I'll do it.

I had an extra alternator chromed and rebuilt...was around $300 per alternator...I'd be willing to sell ya one at cost. LMK

-Tim

fstcoup
06-01-2017, 03:24 PM
If you look at my post in cars for sale, you will see what an eight grand SC looks like... Too bad it takes about twice that amount to get there. I don't know if someone told you the mileage on your car was actual but it's not, easy to spot by the broken odometer reading 0000 , the drive gear is broken.

DrFishbone
06-01-2017, 04:21 PM
i don't know if someone told you the mileage on your car was actual but it's not, easy to spot by the broken odometer reading 0000 , the drive gear is broken.

yuuuuuuuuppppp
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TBirdJKC
06-01-2017, 06:34 PM
I don't know if someone told you the mileage on your car was actual but it's not, easy to spot by the broken odometer reading 0000 , the drive gear is broken.

:D That's why I stopped resetting my trip even after I replaced the gears. I'm always afraid of breaking a tooth.

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 07:27 PM
You think everybody here is a smartass? You continue to confirm what they're pointing out.

Get you're act together. Trust me, I have a life, and from what I've learned about you, I'd rather be me. Put down the crack pipe and take a good long look in the mirror.

~~~~ like this will be ignored. More worried about the subject at hand than insults thanks.

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 07:29 PM
:D That's why I stopped resetting my trip even after I replaced the gears. I'm always afraid of breaking a tooth.

I would agree if I didn't check the vehicle history. It's the correct milage.

KMT
06-01-2017, 08:22 PM
:D That's why I stopped resetting my trip even after I replaced the gears. I'm always afraid of breaking a tooth.

Just don't stab it while in motion...especially if the gears are original.

davec73
06-01-2017, 09:14 PM
I realize some of the responses have been harsh but fwiw these are great guys and gals and great cars. They arnt a mustang and for this I am glad, anyone can build a fast mustang. It takes a special idiot like me to do some of the things ive done to my supercoupe but in the end I have a car I wouldn't trade for the world so .....

dthompson
06-01-2017, 09:22 PM
anyone can build a fast mustang. It takes a special idiot like me to do some of the things ive done to my supercoupe

you know you like that tag line!

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 09:52 PM
I realize some of the responses have been harsh but fwiw these are great guys and gals and great cars. They arnt a mustang and for this I am glad, anyone can build a fast mustang. It takes a special idiot like me to do some of the things ive done to my supercoupe but in the end I have a car I wouldn't trade for the world so .....

Okay I just typed a giant response but it got deleted in the world of crappy internet connections. So I'm simply going to say I could still get my money back and not buy this car but I love the fact that it has more torque than most Mustangs before 2010 granted it's only got 200 hp, it screams classy as well.. my personal life and the things I've gone through cost a lot of money to talk about so I'm not even going to respond to any negativity. If anybody has any helpful criticism in the form of suggestions I'm all ears, I came here for experienced, "I already ~~~~ed up don't do this, do this" Kind of advice. I feel a smart individual, would hear every single sc owner out to gather information, but please be informative... I don't have feelings, just a brain yearning for more knowledge, and if possible, some wisdom... please try to understand.

Kennypaul26
06-01-2017, 09:53 PM
you know you like that tag line!

I felt warm an fuzzy inside reading that sentence.. almost... understood even.

davec73
06-01-2017, 11:55 PM
Okay I just typed a giant response but it got deleted in the world of crappy internet connections. So I'm simply going to say I could still get my money back and not buy this car but I love the fact that it has more torque than most Mustangs before 2010 granted it's only got 200 hp, it screams classy as well.. my personal life and the things I've gone through cost a lot of money to talk about so I'm not even going to respond to any negativity. If anybody has any helpful criticism in the form of suggestions I'm all ears, I came here for experienced, "I already ~~~~ed up don't do this, do this" Kind of advice. I feel a smart individual, would hear every single sc owner out to gather information, but please be informative... I don't have feelings, just a brain yearning for more knowledge, and if possible, some wisdom... please try to understand.
The advice ithers are giving you on getting it over 400 rwhp is the real deal it costs more money per hp than alit of cars. My car has a t56 6 speed and made 470 hp tq last year. I just went through the motor and several other aspects of the car and hope to get it over 500. It is possible but just set one goal at a time and do what you can.

Kennypaul26
06-02-2017, 01:03 AM
The advice ithers are giving you on getting it over 400 rwhp is the real deal it costs more money per hp than alit of cars. My car has a t56 6 speed and made 470 hp tq last year. I just went through the motor and several other aspects of the car and hope to get it over 500. It is possible but just set one goal at a time and do what you can.

I'm going to take videos once the car gets here and really get at it... all I can see in my mind is cleaning and replacing so many little things before I get to the actual upgrades... what to do about paint for real though? What if the drive gear was broken before the car even got banged on and never reported? I'm thinking worse case scenario, but even if it was only a year ago since the last checkup... it really might be a nightmare.. sad to say, but if I can just get it running with good tires my Coworkers dad will jump on the chance to buy it for what I paid, he has a truck... I have some jordans.. not by choice either. Js if this is my daily, and my project.. I won't let it sit for long, but I'm afraid of the unkown. I feel the hg and arp studs would be top of my list I heard addressing problems before they happen is better than braking more parts.

Parts I know I will need:
sc specific tires or new rims with tires deep dish only.
Passenger side door lock
Left front fender
New headlights and tailights (I'm picky)
Cai because idk if it comes with the intake or what..
Exaust for the sc (extremely picky)
Iac valve if I don't find the one we confirmed isn't in the photo.
MLS hg's
Arp studs

Creighton
06-02-2017, 05:26 AM
Suggest you order the Factory Service Manual and the EVATM for 1993. These will give you a good idea of how to correctly mend issues that will come up. Reading through the FAQ's and use the search engine on this site is a huge help as well.
Setting realistic goals is key. Good that you are stepping up for extra shifts. Takes coin to play with SC's.
Creighton

TBirdJKC
06-02-2017, 05:28 AM
I'm going to take videos once the car gets here and really get at it... all I can see in my mind is cleaning and replacing so many little things before I get to the actual upgrades... what to do about paint for real though? What if the drive gear was broken before the car even got banged on and never reported? I'm thinking worse case scenario, but even if it was only a year ago since the last checkup... it really might be a nightmare.. sad to say, but if I can just get it running with good tires my Coworkers dad will jump on the chance to buy it for what I paid, he has a truck... I have some jordans.. not by choice either. Js if this is my daily, and my project.. I won't let it sit for long, but I'm afraid of the unkown. I feel the hg and arp studs would be top of my list I heard addressing problems before they happen is better than braking more parts.

Parts I know I will need:
sc specific tires or new rims with tires deep dish only.
Passenger side door lock
Left front fender
New headlights and tailights (I'm picky)
Cai because idk if it comes with the intake or what..
Exaust for the sc (extremely picky)
Iac valve if I don't find the one we confirmed isn't in the photo.
MLS hg's
Arp studs

Keep in mind, if you want to run MLS gaskets you will have to have the block decked as well as the heads. I've never had any issues running the regular old Fel-Pro's and a new set of bolts, but I also wasn't making serious power either. Just a late model blower, early pulley, injectors, and a sampling tube (before I was aware of proper tuning). No idea how much power I was making, but it felt pretty good.

The first thing I would address is the fact that your IAC is missing. That's usually a sign that someone couldn't get the car to idle correctly under the computer's control. So they pull it and adjust the idle with the stop screw. Its a Band-Aid fix for an underlying problem.

Most of us get our exhaust through either SuperCoupe Performance for a complete system, or Tru-Bendz for the mandrel bent piping and add your own mufflers, resonators, etc. Victor at Spinning Wheels might have exhaust systems too, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Any kind of custom tuning or engine work XR7Dave at SuperCoupes Unlimited Inc. is the place to go. He can even tune remotely depending on your needs.

If you need wiring diagrams or any in depth resource's you can access them through the paid member area. Just the diagrams are well worth the $15 bucks in my opinion.

Kennypaul26
06-02-2017, 03:05 PM
Keep in mind, if you want to run MLS gaskets you will have to have the block decked as well as the heads. I've never had any issues running the regular old Fel-Pro's and a new set of bolts, but I also wasn't making serious power either. Just a late model blower, early pulley, injectors, and a sampling tube (before I was aware of proper tuning). No idea how much power I was making, but it felt pretty good.

The first thing I would address is the fact that your IAC is missing. That's usually a sign that someone couldn't get the car to idle correctly under the computer's control. So they pull it and adjust the idle with the stop screw. Its a Band-Aid fix for an underlying problem.

Most of us get our exhaust through either SuperCoupe Performance for a complete system, or Tru-Bendz for the mandrel bent piping and add your own mufflers, resonators, etc. Victor at Spinning Wheels might have exhaust systems too, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Any kind of custom tuning or engine work XR7Dave at SuperCoupes Unlimited Inc. is the place to go. He can even tune remotely depending on your needs.

If you need wiring diagrams or any in depth resource's you can access them through the paid member area. Just the diagrams are well worth the $15 bucks in my opinion.

Thank you for both of your inputs. I understood everything yall said and yes, it is helping as I have been searching all the forums on tccoa, grassroots, sccoa.com.. and others about supercoupe restoration projects and all that. Ive looked at the awd, ranger, 7.6l cobra jet swap.. almost everything.. all that is left is the membership area, which I will get too when paycheck hits.

Kennypaul26
06-02-2017, 03:07 PM
[QUOTE=TBirdJKC;1109992]Keep in mind, if you want to run MLS gaskets you will have to have the block decked as well as the heads. I've never had any issues running the regular old Fel-Pro's and a new set of bolts, but I also wasn't making serious power either. Just a late model blower, early pulley, injectors, and a sampling tube (before I was aware of proper tuning). No idea how much power I was making, but it felt pretty good.

The first thing I would address is the fact that your IAC is missing. That's usually a sign that someone couldn't get the car to idle correctly under the computer's control. So they pull it and adjust the idle with the stop screw. Its a Band-Aid fix for an underlying problem.

I just contacted him. He removed the iac valve for the supercharger build, he is going to help me get it running and everything next friday when I get my paycheck. I've been tossing alot of questions at him in the middle of all of it. He has been pretty responsive when he can be. I am just eager to start replacing things.. this is my first special project. In the past I've had:

96 camry bleh..
92 miata (ls1 swap bound, but got distracted by...)
95 eagle talon tsi awd (first boost addiction)
92 del sol si (built engine, very fun car)
00 neon bleh
88 corolla with mr2 motor
92 ranger 5 speed 2.3
92 honda accord 5 speed lx f22a4

Now.. finally a car worth throwing a year of work into if I have to.. it would always come in handy for a coyote or termy swap if I keep it for five more years, problems to come anticipated, but I'm not scared. I'm devoted to making a name for my skills. My eye for detail.

Kennypaul26
06-02-2017, 03:24 PM
Tbh, I've reconsidered serious power.. I want it back to stock condition like the dealership used to want, not a spot of anything unattractive, all new parts if anything is pulled, bolts especially, then one day... ill weigh the cost of fully upgraded sc vs termy swap twin turbo.

Creighton
06-03-2017, 03:01 AM
One thing I forgot is if even having every tool known to man the SC needs a few more :-). Budget for that. Cutting and pasting important bits into a doc helps. SC's are tough but the satisfaction of owning driving one makes up for the bad moments.
Creighton

BUDXR7
06-03-2017, 09:10 AM
Tbh, I've reconsidered serious power.. I want it back to stock condition like the dealership used to want, not a spot of anything unattractive, all new parts if anything is pulled, bolts especially, then one day... ill weigh the cost of fully upgraded sc vs termy swap twin turbo.

Boy, this thread is really on topic. Call you dr. Kenny and mr. Paul. This would be nice and it's an easy swap. You'll need the inlet plenum to match for $75-100. Gut your cats replace your resonator.

"S-Port" Magnuson Eaton Supercharger Rotor Pack Housing Thunderbird Super Coupe

https://www.ebay.com/itm/122485929903

JoeyICU
06-03-2017, 11:27 AM
Are you actually selling this car? Do you actually own this car? Do you have a title?

Kennypaul26
06-03-2017, 04:20 PM
Are you actually selling this car? Do you actually own this car? Do you have a title?

I'm considering all options at this point. In every equation it's wroth keeping most likely. Yes I own. yes my title. I'm going to post the vin soon as I can.

Kennypaul26
06-03-2017, 04:22 PM
Boy, this thread is really on topic. Call you dr. Kenny and mr. Paul. This would be nice and it's an easy swap. You'll need the inlet plenum to match for $75-100. Gut your cats replace your resonator.

"S-Port" Magnuson Eaton Supercharger Rotor Pack Housing Thunderbird Super Coupe

https://www.ebay.com/itm/122485929903

I was just looking at all the upgrades for the m90, intake, and tb for the sc. I figure while I have it apart, might as well prepare for a better flow!!!

Kennypaul26
06-05-2017, 02:10 PM
I was just looking at all the upgrades for the m90, intake, and tb for the sc. I figure while I have it apart, might as well prepare for a better flow!!!

Ok so I got the ~~~~ finally straightened out. The car will get dropped off friday. I'm excited to finally get started on this thing.

Kennypaul26
06-23-2017, 03:16 PM
Are you actually selling this car? Do you actually own this car? Do you have a title?

Update, I have the keys and title, car is parked in my front yard. I have $300 left. I'm planning to fix it up and show off my skills. As is, $1500 as it will have the iac valve and tires by monday. All it needs is cosmetic then.

fstcoup
06-24-2017, 06:28 PM
Sometimes ya just have to shake your head and walk away......

Jacob_Royer
06-25-2017, 06:52 AM
What the hell did I just read? Jim Demitts pegleg buddy wrote more coherent posts....

TbirdSCFan
06-25-2017, 08:05 AM
what the hell did i just read? Jim demitts pegleg buddy wrote more coherent posts....

LOL. Man thats a reach far back into vault there.

Kennypaul26
06-26-2017, 09:34 AM
Sometimes ya just have to shake your head and walk away......

Every time I get on this forum for advice I end up doing that. Only 1 out of 4 replies is ever helpful. The rest are just talking about how crazy I sound for buying an SC and wanting to actually make it a decent daily driver...noooooo that's crazy. Car is not for sale anymore.

David Neibert
06-26-2017, 03:05 PM
Kenny, Do you have a current picture of the engine bay. Asking because the pictures you posted earlier were missing a lot of stuff besides the IAC valve. Stuff you will need if you are planning to keep/drive the car.

David

Kennypaul26
06-26-2017, 10:11 PM
Kenny, Do you have a current picture of the engine bay. Asking because the pictures you posted earlier were missing a lot of stuff besides the IAC valve. Stuff you will need if you are planning to keep/drive the car.

David

Yes I have plenty of newer pictures, I'll post them if I can find a less sketchy place than photobucket to do so. I have the car in front of me, if you really know your SC and wish to help pm me for my number, or email me, familyfirstfighter@gmail.com

Creighton
06-27-2017, 12:31 AM
Adding photo's is a "Manage Attachments" Requires scrolling or down arrow to find. This is your tool for posting photo's. Have the factory manuals on the way yet? Pretty sure all here "really know our SC's" Suggest you learn to use search function and then ask questions.
Creighton

Kennypaul26
06-27-2017, 10:29 PM
Adding photo's is a "Manage Attachments" Requires scrolling or down arrow to find. This is your tool for posting photo's. Have the factory manuals on the way yet? Pretty sure all here "really know our SC's" Suggest you learn to use search function and then ask questions.
Creighton

Appreciate the first two sentences. I'm not interested in this site anymore really. Unless you can tell me where to get the bolts for the supercharger, I already looked up and figured out everything else I need to love this car by myself without a club or whatever. I love the fact it's rare, I get people to come up and offer me more than I paid, and I know much more about the 3.8 Canadian Essex motor, it's made out of the ~~~~ they put in wolverine I get it. Thank you all for your support, I'm out.

David Neibert
06-28-2017, 05:08 PM
Closing since car is not for sale and OP no longer interested in club.

David