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J Zinn
09-21-2000, 02:32 PM
Now that we have sold quite a few intakes and some have been in use for quite some time, what are your opinions on the part? Is there something that we can improve?

Micahdogg
09-21-2000, 03:41 PM
One concern I had was that I've yanked the tube out (where it connects to the MAF) a couple times now. I'm not sure if it's the solid motor mounts or the higher output motor...or a combo of both that is doing it. It seems like the motor just flexes to the point sometimes where the tube comes out. It hasn't done it for a while now....I think I've got all the connections tightened and adjusted just right, but I was wondering if this was a problem for others or not?

Otherwise excellent job. You even followed my special instructions!!

Micah

Rob Noth
09-21-2000, 04:45 PM
How is the availability on the intake these days? I want to get one but I've seen a few posts saying parts were unavailable so there was a few weeks delay in shipping them out. So I've been waiting to make my purchase.

One thing I like about the ZR design, as opposed to some other designs that are available, is that the airflow is directed straight into the MAF. Pro-flow has a page somewhere on their site showing how much MAF error you get by placing an elbow in front of the MAF. It is a significant amount.

Dave Neibert
09-21-2000, 07:05 PM
I don't know how well it works since I can't get a response from anyone at ZR Motorsports as to when the one I ordered on Sept. 7 will be shipped. I'll let you know how it works if you will let me know if and when I can expect delivery.
Thanks, David

J Zinn
09-21-2000, 07:14 PM
Micah - we have had a few of the tubes want to work their way loose, here is what we have found. (1) the lower tube is not inserted at the proper angle forcing the unit out of alignment (the filter should point as far towards the corner of the bumper cover as possible) or (2) anybody running the larger Pro-M MAF (because it is almost 3/4" longer than stock) will force the situation mentioned in number 1. If you do have the larger MAF, the only solution at this point is to massage it into the position mentioned as much as possible and make sure that the clamps are positioned properly. sometimes because of the exaggerated angles created by the MAF the clamp, although centered on the silicone tube, will only be clamping on a portion of the intake tube itself. this will cure the problem 99% of the time.

J Zinn
09-21-2000, 07:15 PM
ROB - yes we are searching for a new supplier for the mounting plate. we were having some problems with consitency. they weren't able to keep the required tolerances on the plates, and as a result we were having to send back entire runs before they met our specs. please bear with us and know that the delay is in an effort to assure quality.

J Zinn
09-21-2000, 07:17 PM
DAVID - I am truly sorry that you have had difficulty contacting us. Please e-mail me with a phone number at which I can reach you and I will get the information to you that you need.
johnzi@mcmullenargus.com

scrunner
09-21-2000, 07:23 PM
I agree Micah

I've had the same problem. Damn thing has come of a few times down by the MAF. Keep an eye out for the tube rubbing against the MAF & TB too..

Yikes!

TurboBird
09-21-2000, 09:59 PM
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Jason Colone
09-22-2000, 01:14 AM
I havent had any problems with my ZR intake. I really do like this part a lot. The intake sound is one of a kind. You have my vote.

WBK96
09-22-2000, 11:04 AM
I just installed the ZR last Friday and I really felt a difference in performance. More than I expected actually. After reading the above posts I went out to look at it, and sure enough the chrome tube was pulled out of the MAF. I moved everything around and the hose clamp is still only gripping about 1/2 of the tube. I think that the best way to fix this would be a longer piece of that rubber tubing that connects the MAF and chrome tube. I think about a 1/2 inch would do it.

Wes Komarek
WBK96@aol.com

fred 4 pt 3
09-22-2000, 11:22 AM
Could it be that the trouble exists mostly with those cars that are using the solid motormounts? Adds some height to the engine.

Tory Smith
09-22-2000, 11:39 AM
I know that on chromed water pumps and outlets I was told to always rough the surface up a little (with some sand paper, just were the hose clamps go). The chrome surface is too smooth for the hose to stick. I was thinking this may be the same the the ZR smooth surface.


Tory Smith

Micahdogg
09-22-2000, 12:48 PM
The hose really seems to grip the chrome well....but I too believe that if that rubber hose was just a tad longer....1/2 to 1 inch longer it would hold it to the MAF better. I would definitely look into this for future applications.

And Fred, you may be onto something. I know that my motor now sits at LEAST 1 inch taller (no mounts vs. solid mounts), but it would be easier on John's end to just provide a slightly longer rubber connection than to add in a disclaimer for all who have solid motor mounts. Especially since the solid mounts seem to be getting very popular. Happy customers = good for business.

Micah

NYC Russ
09-22-2000, 02:24 PM
Just for the record, the MN12 intake tube exhibits similar traits :)

scrunner
09-22-2000, 05:24 PM
Whats the chance of getting another piece of rubber hose...just a little bit longer?

for "registered" owners of course..or at least those with the MAF constatnly falling off every week..

Thanks for considering my request..

J Zinn
09-22-2000, 07:55 PM
Everybody that is having this problem, please drop me an email and i will see what we can do (please only respond if this IS an issue for you. that silicone hose is VERY expensive, so if yours is working fine, please don't respond just for the sake of doing so) THANKS... AND THANKS FOR ALL OF THE GREAT FEEDBACK. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING ANYTIME, INCLUDING NEW PARTS THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEE PRODUCED.

-JOHN
johnzi@mcmullenargus.com

BIGJAY21
09-22-2000, 10:24 PM
Would you guys recommend the intake for a daily driver. I dont race and I dont plan on it. But I like to have the power when i need it.

Thanks
Jason

Josh Biggers
09-23-2000, 12:30 AM
This part doesn't require you to "race" to own it. But man.. you will definitely get attention when you jump on it. Intake sound is GREAT!

Take the horsepower whenever you can.. never know when you'll need to jump on it on the freeway.. or even toast some spoiled teenager... ;)

(I'm 23.. so don't give me any teenagers are people too crap.. LOL.. but everyone can relate.. )

BIGJAY21
09-23-2000, 12:02 PM
Thanks. Just what I wanted to know. One more question though. Is there a problem with the filter being out in the open, i.e. road grim, water, little furry animals. ZR has a disclaimer that they are not responsible for water intake. I'm just a tad bit concerned, and also, (ok two questions) do you replace the filter with a conical K

BIGJAY21
09-23-2000, 12:04 PM
&N filter.

Thanks
Jason

Pat DiPersia
09-23-2000, 04:14 PM
Do we have any special pricing for SCCoA members or is what we see on the web what we get?

SweetSc
09-24-2000, 01:20 AM
I actually had a problem with the tube being about an inch to long. I had to cut it and then it worked fine. My only other problem is i'm using an 80mm L-maf and i kina fabricated the connectors for now as the provided would barely fit the 70mm maf. Other than that, i totally love the sound and power increases.

ChRis

Josh Biggers
09-25-2000, 01:59 AM
I've been driving on it for well over a year.. through some really rainy seasons.. and have absolutely no trouble.. even some where I submarined it and the thought crossed through my head, but no problems at all.

I'm sure they do that just as a disclaimer, which EVERY part manufacturer does.. list it as "off-road" use.

The filter location is well housed within the fender, but it is more accessible than the stock location, but that adds to pulling colder air.

Common sense prevails in any situation, drive smart, and you should have no problems.

Micahdogg
09-25-2000, 11:12 AM
so it's pretty well protected from an oncoming splash of water. BUT---I have removed both foglights and as a result, the air has a straight shot back to the filter....and I assume water does too. But I don't drive in rain and don't know how any right minded SC owner can allow their car to bask in anything other than sunlight. Just an FYI though....ditch the worthless foglights and heavy ~~~ brackets and you shag 10lbs of weight and maybe add a couple HP.

Micah

Power Driver
09-30-2000, 05:04 PM
I guess that hopping blue car proves it. :)

But really, I drive my bird all through winter (vermont) and it out performs any car i've had before, maybe i'm a better driver now (ha ha ha).

Gabe 35th anniversary
10-06-2000, 01:33 PM
John,
What are you looking at right now for shipping times? I'm wanting to order one here in the next month or so and am just wondering how far in advance I need to order to have it in time.

tbirdsc25
10-12-2000, 12:39 AM
Just wondering before i make the purchase i already have the k&n system but that intake noise that im looking for isnt there. Does the zr intake have a loud intake noise and also am i able to take the 9"cone off the k&n kit and use it on the zr kit?

Thanks
Justin

Josh Biggers
10-12-2000, 04:33 PM
Yes, this will give you the intake noise you are looking for, and yes.. you can buy the "filter-less" kit from ZR and use the K&N 9" filter.

They went with using the Autophysics filters because they flow better than K&N. A 7" AutoPhysics filter will outflow a K&N 9".

Obviously putting a 9" filter in the fenderwell will be just a touch more tricky than the 7", but I have seen a 9" installed with a ZR, and you should have no real trouble at all.

edwinrrivera
10-20-2000, 01:47 PM
micah,

i had the same problem at first. took me a couple of days to finally put it in a position where i:

1) couldn't pull it out with my bare hands anymore
2) didnt' have to worry about it popping out on its own anymore.

-edwin
www.edwinrivera.com/scoundrel (http://www.edwinrivera.com/scoundrel)

Dutch Bird
10-21-2000, 05:26 PM
I would like to get the intake from ZR but a buddy of mine out here in the Netherlands had some less positive experience with them. He ordered the intake tube but it took for ages to come and has not arrived untill today (and won't because he canceled the order) they were very easy in informing him about the situation on his order (this is not ment positive!) I don't know how the experience with their way of working in the states is but out here it seems to be a bit difficult. This doesn't mean the intake tube is a less desireable item, need to have it soon.

Dutch Bird

Chickenthunder
10-22-2000, 02:56 AM
I'm in Germany. I haven’t had a problem yet ordering any thing from the states. I have my ZR intake on order. And received an e-mail saying that it won't come until the end of this month.
P.S. There's no driving like autobahn driving.

MattSCyoungin
11-01-2000, 11:45 PM
just ordered my intake last Thursday (today is November 1st) and he said that the intake will be to me in 3 weeks maximum...so that isn't that bad...now we'll see if it comes then or not...

Matt (SC youngin)