2003 MN-12 nationals will be held in western part of US. [Archive]

okcbird

09-05-2002, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by Micahdogg
F*CK no.....I am NOT racing in Denver. Keep the altitude low.....and My choice goes for somewhere under 10 hours from STL. Seriously.

Micah

Ummm I don't get it, under 10 hours would mean furthest it could go would be OKC, Tulsa, Kansas City. That's it. What about the guys out west, they've been driving quite a ways the last two years.

?

-Josh

:edit:

And about the altitude thing.

1) It effects everyone there!

2) Maybe Albuquerque (and it's still high elevation), that's about only other choice before moving it WAY west.

ilusnforc

09-10-2002, 02:18 AM

I think Nevada or Arizona would sound good. I would go to a meet in those areas, or down here in Texas would be even better for me. If its near these areas then it will probably be the first meet i attend, looking forward to it though.

plev72

09-18-2002, 02:22 PM

I'm liking the idea of Phoenix area as I'm moving back from Belgium in the next few weeks are so. SoCo or Nevada are ok as well I guess...

sprcharged6pack

09-20-2002, 09:41 PM

I think that it would be good to have it out in the west, but not somewhere as hot as Arizona. It should be held a little more Eastern than that. But then again I'll be the last to argue if it ends up in Nevada. :D :cool: right .

Either way someone let me know what's going on so I can come:confused:

Tazer999

09-20-2002, 09:46 PM

Argh, if you keep havin it in the middle of the us no one from Canada can ever come, :(

94TBIRD JW

09-22-2002, 06:28 PM

how about having one up in Minnesota(maybe 2k4 if 2k3 is going to the west). We've got a 1/4 in Moorhead that the uppermidwest thundercats will be checkin out next weekend (I'll shoot updates later). there's also Brainerd International Raceway in Brainerd, MN. I don't know how easy that would be to get though - could always try. There is also a road course at BIR which is part of the 1/4 (actually, 1/4 is backstretch of the track) Plenty of Lodging at either place. Both aren't much more than 200 miles from the canadian border. There's also brookings South Dakota that's be great for some of us northern guys.

I'm just full of thoughts...

-jw
el presidente of the Uppermidwest Thundercats

hwycoper

09-22-2002, 07:56 PM

How about Sears Poin Race track. Maybe a little road course to go with the drag racing. Lots to do and see along the Northen Coast and Wine Country of of Northern Ca.

Kent 48

10-09-2002, 01:40 PM

Colorado Springs, Colorado. The weather is great. Right at the foot of the Rockies. Less than an hour from Denver. Big enough to have anything you want to do (within reason!) and small enough to Not have metropolitan problems. And close enough we old Confederates can make it with out having to take a fortnight off from work.

35thCoupe

10-12-2002, 11:36 PM

I have to agree with 94tbird JW. Minnesota does have some nice tracks. And its right in the middle, so people from Canada and the US can come. Just putting in my two cents because I live in Minnesota, although Ill go wherever it is.

resmn12

10-14-2002, 09:20 AM

what day is this going to be on and what month

AV8R040

10-16-2002, 04:05 PM

Denver would be the best place they have a great track right on the foothills of the rockies. The name of the track is Bandimere Speedway and it is the host of the Mile High NHRA Nationals in July. I hope this helps

1990_NW_SCKid

10-20-2002, 01:57 PM

Oregon, I think, would be a good place. After reading what people want and don't want, it has:

Scenic areas
NHRA Certified Track in Woodburn
Portland International Raceway (Holds CART Races, also has a 1/4)
Low elevation
Nice distance for Canadian members and Southern U.S. members
And many more key features that I just can't think of right now

Oregon is nice place, and I would think would be a good choice for a meeting.

cudaz101

10-22-2002, 07:31 AM

:eek:I can't believe what I am reading here...

The WEST???? Hey man, I would say that most of the suggestions are pretty damn good.

Minnisota, is a pretty damn good idea...Nevada is always a good idea...Northern CA. would be ok as well...Colarado, I dunno bout that...To hold it in the state of Washington would be cool, but it is the furthest corner on the map...~~~~~ why not Alaska then...???Instead of bringin' your slicks, bring your chains...LOL

In my opinion the top picks in the WEST would be:

MINN. "Twinn Cities"
Reno or Vegas
Nor.Cal

This is too cool...Hope it works out well for everyone...

Cheers

JustinH

10-27-2002, 07:58 PM

anywhere so that both east coat and west coast guys can attend, somewhere in the middle.

Justin

8ate8

10-27-2002, 09:43 PM

well that's how it's been the past two years.. gotta give someone else the turn to drive far.. 2004 nats will be out east.

Danimal5.0

10-29-2002, 04:23 PM

Denver is perfect

-danimal

cudaz101

10-29-2002, 10:35 PM

Ya know I don't really see why it is not somwhere in the middle every year...The West coast only has to travel halway across the states every other year and clear across the states all the other times...~~~?? Am I missing something here?

Sombody Help me understand this trend/analogy???

SCgraphics guy

10-30-2002, 12:39 AM

Denver would be ok as I'm close, there would be lots of SC locals to attend. Great track....5,200ft, except cars don't run great there..My CMRE S2 posted a best of 14.3 on good tires, where in Kansas City it ran 13.5 on bad tires!

Casper Wyo does not have a strip. the closest is Douglas Wyo....but I've heard it may close! Also a high altitude track...5000ft

My choice would be the small town of Kearny Neb. in the center of Neb. Good track and a Good facilities! Track elev. 2000ft

My other choice would be Phoenix,...Firebird would be great!

S. Dakota is Ok, or Minn. Another Idea would be
Grand Jct. Co. its got a good track and 3000ft elev. Its on the western slope of the Rockies. This would force the estern guys to drive thru the Rockies and really see how an SC can eat other cars in the canyons! The Supercharger has its benifits at elevation! Ask Dr. Fred

And keep in mind last years meet was way too far east for us western guys! This thing is suppost to move around so everyone can enjoy it!

8ate8

10-30-2002, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by cudaz101
Ya know I don't really see why it is not somwhere in the middle every year...The West coast only has to travel halway across the states every other year and clear across the states all the other times...~~~?? Am I missing something here?

Sombody Help me understand this trend/analogy???

it was in the center of the country for the past two years.

as i said before, it's someone else's turn to drive far.. not everyone will be able to make it every single year.

cudaz101

10-30-2002, 05:56 AM

it was in the center of the country for the past two years.

OK..Indiana is in the Middle of the US....Totally MY GEOGRAPHIC MISTAKE...LOL...OK...Thanks so much for clearing that all up for me man...

I am curious to see where it ends up....

8ate8

10-30-2002, 07:39 PM

well indiana isn't the middle middle. it's more eastern middle.. but it's still the west coast's turn.. i believe it's in a 4 year rotation

Thunder Flee

10-31-2002, 04:45 AM

I think that the nationals should be in the middle of the country every year like in the St. Louis , MO. area. right smack dab in the middle. :)

Thunder Flee

10-31-2002, 04:50 AM

Keep it in the middle St. Louis, MO area. I've been all over the country and this is the place to race. Seems to be more support here than anywhere else I think

VicRattlehead

10-31-2002, 04:58 AM

vegas.

ROB, let me know when you need help.
tccoail@yahoo.com

Boostman23

10-31-2002, 06:12 PM

Thanks for everyones suggestions so far, keep them coming as they could become an upcoming location.

The reason that we do not want to keep it in one location every years is to give all MN-12 owners the chance to get to one without traveling 20+hrs. Even though this makes our job harder, but I would perfer new places every so often.

Dont get me wrong St. Louis would work great for me, only an hour drive, but what fun is that? So far both meets have been a drive for me, 11 hrs for 2001 and 6 hrs for 2002. One of the added benefits from having a roaming meet is you get to visit new places and meet new people!

For the following years the plan will go as follows:

2003 - Western US ( Denver, Reno, Vegas, etc.)
2004 - Eastern US (?)
2005 - Southern US ( Fort Worth, ?)
2006 - Northern US/Canada (?)
2007 - Midwest US (STL, Nashville, etc)

Now these location will not be extremes either, and what I mean is that the meet will not be on the far west coast, or the far east coast, unless there is an agreement on a location, such as Sears Point, CA for example.

Each area that will be holding the meet should meet these basic requirements:

1) Have a 1/4 mi drag strip
2) Dyno facilities
3) Good hotel options *burnouts at 2am must be permitted!
4) Banquet room facilities
5) Big parking lot for car show

optional, but desired:

1) Road Course
2) Auto Cross
3) Scenic Drives
4) stuff for families to do

If there is anything that has not been at the Nationals that you would like to see there, let me know. I am open for suggestions.

94TBIRD JW

10-31-2002, 10:56 PM

Someone mentioned the Twin Cities? I gotta say no there, there is no track in town.

Tracks In MN--

Red Rock (I think it is) down in the south east corner. also known as slippery rock because of lack of traction -> bad track
There's an 1/8 west of the cities about an hour or two, but, it's an 1/8.
Also Interstate Dragways in Moorhead MN. Right on the intersectiobn of 2 interstates. Fairly small town so it's not too hard to get around, yet there's stuff to do. I'm not real sure on the track though. I was there and was hooking great with my cooper cobras at 45psi and running 15.8, but the SC with wider tires at 25psi couldn't hook at all and was still only cutting 15.4 (stock). Traction might be a problem there. It's also a small track - and in all honestly would probably compare to elkhart (heard, never was there).

The best option for MN would be Brainerd INTL Raceway. NHRA sanctioned, part of the circuit. Great track, long road course (not sure if it'd be open to us though). On site camping, and the whole city is a tourist trap -> lots of stuff to do. Not sure on dyno facilities though, and I'm thinking that if MN12 nats were to get the track, there's the possibility that the burnout comp. could be held there. The track is appx. 8 miles from town (however it's pretty much built up from town to the track now). Plenty of hotels i'm sure as well as on site condos/etc.

There is also the track in brookings SD that I'd like to see(still good for us uppermidwest guys and canaday guys). I havne't been there but know a guy that has that I could get into contact with.

-Justin W.
-Prez of the UMWThunderCats.

-http://members.tccoa.com/tcats

forcfed93

11-01-2002, 02:09 PM

I think its a good idea to move it aound every year!

NSRA and other orginizations move there national events around too.

NSRA moves from OKC, Memphis, St Paul, Culumbus. Then they do regional events (mini-nats) in the areas that dont have the nationals that year.

I realize that we dont have 15,000 cars to draw from ....... but we can use there example to set something up!

The big thing is to pick four good locations and get something set up. I couldnt make it to this years Nats because I didn't have enough time to work out the time off.

Most people would love to go to a Nat's but by the time you pick a date and location it's to late to get any time off!

Boostman23

11-01-2002, 02:48 PM

We are trying to get future nationals setup early. So as 2003 comes together hopefully 2004 and 2005 will be almost complete as the 2003 nationals rolls around.

The MN-12 Nationals is still in a learning and growing process. I learned alot this year with what to expect and where I could make things better. I also learned that I can not do this by myself. I will be utilizing more help from those in the area that the nationals will be held, so that things go more smoothly. The logistics of a national meet can be hard to handle when you can not physically visit the places that we would be using, until the time of the meet.

I had alot of people offer help after the 2002 meet, and I will utilize alot of it. This meet was made for one purpose, and one purpose only, to have a good time, and meet fellow MN12 owners. So far that is being accomplished, and slowly this meet will become the meet, I would assume, that all of us hope it will become. The MN12 community is small, but unique and very diverse in the people that make up that community, and I hope that one day everyone that attends the Nationals will walk away a more informed, content MN12 owner.

rkahochoa

11-01-2002, 04:14 PM

I, like many, would love to have the meet in Phoenix, Az. Firebird Raceway host the NHRA. It's a great track. Downside, pretty dman hot in August.

TonezSC

11-01-2002, 05:35 PM

Yea Denver sounds good, I'm in Michigan so basically where ever it is, it will be a trip and a half.

forcfed93

11-01-2002, 09:24 PM

Boostman23,
Don't get me wrong, I applaud your efforts and the intent of my last post was to offer you encouragement to set up a rotating group of locations and not to let a few well meaning BBS users to influnce you into changing the posible locations all of the time.

Running the Iowa SC club is a full time job some days .... so I can only imagine what it would be like to do a National event. :D

I think you are on the right track!

I have one suggestion that may give you some better insite in to where you should hold future events. I suggest that you pole MN12 owners (by email address and name so you can get an accurate count and so no one can respond more than once), to find out some info. The info you need is: find out were they live, how far they are willing to travel and how much they are willing to spend for food, motels, gas, and so on.

Once you detirmine how many pertisapants you have available and were they live, you can deside on the best 4-6 locations for the MN12 Nats. Once you have the locations nailed down, you can pick hotels and motels in those areas based on how much people will spend ......... and so on down the line!

Keep up the good work! If you have any questions, drop me a line anytime ....... After all ..... we're all in this together!

nervekiler

11-30-2002, 03:23 PM

i know the west coast is probably too much to ask for 70% of this board. i have never been to a national meet since this is the first year we have supercoupes in my family.

i do however thing that portland, oregon woudl be an awsome place to hold it. its vertically centered in a good spot for the south US and canadain members to attend. i do however know that it is way too far west for everyone. and a place like in the easter idaho or montana area woudl be best.
but portland does have PIR. a real race course, not some dinky 1/4 mile track. no to bash on everyone who has 12-13 second 1/4mile cars but i think a real road track would be way fun to drive.

im not tryin to piss anyone off just posting my opinion even though its probabyl way late.

peace

Wyndell Bryant

12-12-2002, 09:55 PM

Hey, what about West......Florida, Northwest Florida would be even better, must be some SC's in the area. No kidding, there are some great facilities in the Gainesville, Fl. area, Gatornationals Drag strip, and a great little road course near the track that most people don't even knows exist.

The Central Florida Cobra Sports Car club is holding a meet there this month I've heard.......anyway, keep it in mind for future options.

I'm new to the Forum, will keep in touch......I haven't made contact with any other SC owners in Florida, but I will; maybe we can get enough for a quorum and call for a meet in the area.

Will keep everyone posted on progress........

VicRattlehead

12-12-2002, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Wyndell Bryant
Hey, what about West......Florida, Northwest Florida would be even better, must be some SC's in the area. No kidding, there are some great facilities in the Gainesville, Fl. area, Gatornationals Drag strip, and a great little road course near the track that most people don't even knows exist.

The Central Florida Cobra Sports Car club is holding a meet there this month I've heard.......anyway, keep it in mind for future options.

I'm new to the Forum, will keep in touch......I haven't made contact with any other SC owners in Florida, but I will; maybe we can get enough for a quorum and call for a meet in the area.

Will keep everyone posted on progress........

im guessing the 2004 or 2005 nats will be in the southeast.

GreenBirdLX

12-13-2002, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Boostman23
For the following years the plan will go as follows:

2003 - Western US ( Denver, Reno, Vegas, etc.)
2004 - Eastern US (?)
2005 - Southern US ( Fort Worth, ?)
2006 - Northern US/Canada (?)
2007 - Midwest US (STL, Nashville, etc)

My votes:
03 Las Vegas Motor Speedway, North Las Vegas, NV
04 Sumerduck Dragway, Culpeper, VA
05 Greenville Raceway Park, Greenville, MS
06 Colonels Brainerd International Raceway, Brainerd, MN

tbirdgirl

12-14-2002, 01:04 PM

Have u ever had a rally or meet in Nebraska, I live in Norfolk, NE. But it would nice to have it in Lincoln, or Omaha. They have alot of nice tracks!

forcfed93

12-14-2002, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by tbirdgirl
Have u ever had a rally or meet in Nebraska, I live in Norfolk, NE. But it would nice to have it in Lincoln, or Omaha. They have alot of nice tracks!

Hey tbirdgirl,

There is a group in the Omaha area that is headed up by Andy McMurtry "Melon" they are having a meeting Sunday 12-15-02. The notice is posted on the Iowa Chapter BBS.

We also do a bunch of stuff in Central and Eastern Iowa.

Feel free to contact us both of us .........

Andys email is slot18@hotmail.com
Mine is forcfed93@juno.com

ilusnforc

12-23-2002, 09:03 PM

Has anyone heard of the Thunderbird Hotel on Las Vegas Blvd.?
http://atomiclink.com/findhotelb.cfm/_11246282

Maybe someone around the area can check it out and find out about rates and reservations. If it sounds good, then maybe it can be considered for the 2003 National Meet. I just came across this by accident, but thought I would share it with everyone.

SCgraphics guy

12-23-2002, 09:39 PM

The Thunderbird Hotel....Yea, I saw it when I was there..SCCoSW 1&,3.The SCCoSW has had 3-4 meets in Vegas over the last couple of years. Kelly Simons (lives there)is the guy who has set eveything up in the past. He's always put together great events, Track, dyno, awards, sandwiches>>>he,he (inside joke).
He would know about the T-Bird hotel. One thing about Vegas is things need to be planned well in advance in order to have a good meet, as Vegas is a busy place with lots of other events going on all the time. $$$ cost of rooms, activities, and events are always subject to the time of an event.

If theres further interest in Vegas as a location, I think someone should contact K. Simons as he would know everything!

mn12sc35th

01-01-2003, 01:00 AM

Damn that's almost perfect. I will be driving to southern Oregon this summer and might actualy get to go to it. I like the idea of Vegas or Portland.

nervekiler

01-01-2003, 01:17 AM

portland is a good place since the guys from canada could come down and only have to drive the same distance as the guys from arizona. if it were vegas, it would be way uneven driving distances... if anyone cared.

Csasolutions

01-02-2003, 01:03 PM

Denver sounds great, nice weather that time of the year.

jabaldaz

01-03-2003, 05:18 PM

My vote is for Las Vegas. Yes, its a bit far south...but it's Las Vegas!!!

That would give me an excuse to visit my brother stationed in the Air Force out there as well.

TbirdSCFan

01-04-2003, 03:39 AM

Anyplace, Arizona works for me. Vega works also, but since I'd be bringing the kid(s), it wouldn't be my first choice. Denver would be GREAT! Altitude-- schmaltitude.. we got a blower, so no sweat. And, wouldn't mind seeing Wyoming again.
Whereever it works out to be though, needs a "Thunderbird Motel" as long as its big enough and not too grimy.

mn12bird

01-10-2003, 11:43 PM

the birth place of the MN12's Lorian Ohio!

Jake

Csasolutions

01-11-2003, 11:40 AM

Denver...... weather is great in August, has some great dragstrips, roadrace course at the old International airport. Colorado Springs (60 miles away) has PPIR race course.

HBK94SC

01-11-2003, 04:47 PM

Has a location been decided upon yet? It is now 2003 and I think that a location should be selected by now so folks can prepare for the event and that the local folks can have everything set in place.

David Neibert

01-13-2003, 10:42 AM

I agree with James...nail down the location so we can all start making plans.

David

Randy N Connie

01-13-2003, 02:44 PM

ST.LOUIS . SUNDAY , SUNDAY, SUNDAY,BE THERE. GATEWAY INT.RACEWAY

Randy N Connie

01-13-2003, 02:49 PM

ST.LOUIS . SUNDAY , SUNDAY, SUNDAY,BE THERE. GATEWAY INT.RACEWAY.
.
WOULD THAT THUNDERBIRD MOTEL BE NEAR THE MUSTANG HHOTEL.

Boostman23

01-13-2003, 04:07 PM

I have not decided on a location, but I want it to be in colorado. I think the place I was looking into was near Pikes Peak.

I have been way behind on things this year, as anyone that has visited mn12nationals.com can see. I hope to have something soon for you guys.

SCgraphics guy

01-13-2003, 11:04 PM

Boostman ...please e-mail me .. as I and other CO guys can help
There may be particulars as to a CO event!,
tjpaint@kci.net

92bird

01-14-2003, 01:23 AM

COLORADO!!! YEA!!!!!!!!

If we have a big enough crowd we could rent Second Creek raceway in Denver for a day!! Its not drag racing, but rather a road course! The Colorado SHO club has done that before, so I might be able to find out some more info!

Or maybe Todd can pull some strings up in Julesburg to run at the track up there? (Drag Racing)

Who cares about altitude anyway, yea we are a little slower up here, but anything naturally aspirated is a lot slower up here :)

VicRattlehead

01-14-2003, 01:45 AM

colorado is doable. i should be able to make it. rob if ya need anything let me know.

darcsun

01-14-2003, 01:47 AM

I'd be able to help out. The N/A cars would have issues.. but the blown cars would do fine. Let me know if you need anything.

Boostman23

01-14-2003, 02:00 AM

Here is the place I am interested in if anyone that is local has an opinion on it.

PUEBLO MOTOR SPORTS PARK (http://www.pueblomotorsportspark.com/PMI.html)

I would also like to know if a dyno shop is near, plus the hotel situation.

I think this location would be great if we could get the drag strip as well as the road course!

Vic.... don't worry you will not be left out this year. I will abuse you like a $2... I mean I can use your skills!

Rob

Csasolutions

01-14-2003, 02:11 AM

PMI is a nice course out by Pueblo resevoir, has decent , cheap motels within 5 miles. Drag strip runs just about every weekend, road course has to be reserved as it uses the 1/4 mile strip as part of the track. Need anymore info: csarnold@netzero.net

nervekiler

01-14-2003, 10:26 AM

wow, when it was said the thing would be held west, i thought you meant west! im not too good with a map but the way i look at colorado is mid-west. which the way i remember we had already planned one in the future for mid-west (have we not?)and this one was supossed to be for the west.

maybe i should go re-read the schedule for over the next years.

yea 2007 will be midwest, and the way i look at it is that colorado is midwest. i still think washington or oregon would be really great places to have it (especially since they ARE on the west coast).

SCgraphics guy

01-14-2003, 06:45 PM

I think Rob is on the right track..if it is in CO, Denver would and is Nuts, Bandamere is nuts...Too damn many things going on...We'd never get in except on Friday!Not only that but its 6000+ft
Pueblo is a nice location and the elevation is around 4000ft. They have good facilities and we could get in, also maybe road race for those interested.
We need to finalize it soon though so things can be set up!
The only other option in CO is Grand Jct....which would be nice too! Either way I'm here help along with the other CO SCers
I hope itsOK, to Commit Dr Fred to the aid...??Fred???

rivlee

01-15-2003, 07:15 PM

Grand Junction & Denver are still 15-20hr drives from the left coast, depending on where you are on the coast. Denver's 2/5's of the way accross the country for me! Guys in the Northwest can tack on another hr. LA to Denver is about the same as Chicago to Denver - check the map! With my business it's real hard to take more than a couple of days off. NV, AZ, UT, CO & NM are as far as I can go. Comparison between the 2 CO sites is: Grand junction is a little lower and has very low humidity, both have lower summer temperatures and humidity than most places in the mis-named "Mid-West". Man, I'd like to make a National event!

Mike8675309

01-16-2003, 01:48 AM

I'm going to attend this year and I just was going to throw in that if it really is to be in the West, shouldn't it be West of the Rockies at least if it's going to be west?

Sure Colorado sounds good, but the state will still be there when the Mid-west site time occurs.

93_SCdriver

01-16-2003, 09:44 PM

Hey everybody!!!! I am new and all to this but I would like to get into this more and meet more fellow SC owners. I would have to agree with Todd Jelle on having the meet in Colorado... Denver or Colorado Springs would work. If not, thats ok. I am just hoping it is somewhere close because my husband and I would love to attend. Seems like it would be great fun!!!
:)

nervekiler

01-17-2003, 12:58 AM

ok im no genuis, but im pretty sure CO would be considered mid-west and not west. there is already a midwest location scheduled later. but you are insisting this idea of CO is west. not west enoguh im afraid, its midwest. maybe we can trade years with the midwest one. i would hate for the west to get screwed having no years and the midwest get two years in one rotation.

93_SCdriver

01-17-2003, 02:11 AM

Ok since there is such a big deal about west and midwest states....would somebody please make everybody aware of what is actually supposed to be mid-west states and western states so we can vote in the right area??? :confused:
thanks!!!

ilusnforc

01-17-2003, 02:12 AM

i agree with the mountains being the border between west and mid-west...

VicRattlehead

01-17-2003, 07:04 AM

ok you want west, honolulu, Hawaii

is that far enough for you? ill still be making the 1000+ mile 16+ hour drive one way trip to the nats.

Randy N Connie

01-17-2003, 11:04 AM

A CONTAINER ONLY COST ABOUT $8600.00 TO SHIP TO HONOLULU HAWAII.
IT HAS ENOUGH ROOM FOR TWO SCs.I AM READY VIC.YOU CAN HAVE THE FRONT OF
THE CONTAINER,I WILL TAKE THE MIDDLE.WE CAN SET UP THE BAR IN THE BACK.

Randy N Connie

01-17-2003, 11:10 AM

COL.HAS COWBOYS AND BUCKEL BUNNIES.THAT MAKES IT WEST.
MIDWEST HAS FARMERS.NOT RANCHERS,

SCgraphics guy

01-17-2003, 12:40 PM

I have driven to Las Vegas for meets and seen few West coast SCers show to those meets, Ive driven to OK city and KC and seen few eastern state SCers there, They have Carlsilile every year. I agree somewhat that CO is a borderline western state, I'd call it west central. and last year the meet was east central.
I still think Pueblo CO is a good location for a meet. You can't please everyone and lf this is not settled on soon it leaves those in control or helping with little time to set up things for a smooth flowing, nice event.
.WE gotta get with it soon!
I'm sure there are plans in the future for a "west coast" event!
The way I see it if you want to be there you'll get there!
I live in CO,...& would have no problem with driving to the east or west coast as long as I know the trip will be worth it!
I've been to an MN12 meet before & its worth it!

Boostman23

01-17-2003, 08:15 PM

This will always be a problem when planning any kind of big car meet. There will always be people that wont be pleased with the location.

Last year I tried a vote, and let everyone choose the location, well that ended up being Indy, which happens to be the worst place to go during the Labor day weekend as the US nationals are held there. Mostly my fault as I was unaware of this event at the time, so I made plans for something that was close by, Elkhart.

So I learned that in order to get the meet decided on, and set up in time it has to be a decision made by the people that are setting the meet up. Maybe in the future the vote will be the way it is decided on again, but for now this is the way it is done.

Here is a map of the meets so far, with the possible location of the 2003. I should find out tomorrow if it is even possible for the meet to take place there.

http://www.mn12nationals.com/mn12map.gif

I live in the midwest and do not agree that Colorado is a midwest state, and if it is held in Colorado it will be the furthest West an MN-12 National meet has been held. This will be a 17 hour drive for me at least, which I do not mind. Everyone should try to think of this as a vacation as well, and not just a car meet, hopefully that will give you enough motivation to drive 20 hours, 30+ hours if you are from the East coast.

Well with that being said, hope everyone enjoys the 3 day weekend! I know I will be try to run done a fuel problem on my SC, and trying to get my Stealth RT/TT back on the road so I can stop driving this damn dodge dakota.

Fubarian

01-22-2003, 05:03 PM

Cool thing is I got a friend in Colorado Springs (works at intel) so either way, I think I'm game.

I personally drove from Ohio to Colorado and back this past summer and its really NOT that bad of a drive (honestly), 95 degrees out almost the whole way. Took me a day, I started at around 5:30am and got there around midnight. I would've got there around 10pm but I had a trans line to my cooler split (set me back about 3 hours)

If my xr7's done by then and maybe a 97 I'm looking at, I'll be sure to bring them out :)

89SCK@t

01-23-2003, 07:16 PM

either denver or pueblo for me! im smack dab in the middle, so i have no quarrles over either one...its just that...ive never been to pueblo, and ive been here since sept 01...hmmm...ROAD TRIP!!!

Csasolutions
what part of the springs you in? im stationed at the academy...no im not a damn cadet..lol

HBK94SC

01-25-2003, 07:06 PM

So it appears that the 2003 Nationals will be in Colorado. I am not going to be able to attend this year then. Have fun guys. The Nationals is truely a great event.

I will be attending the Ford Expo in Columbus, OH if some mid-west folks are looking for an alternative event during the Labor Day weekend.

Boostman23

01-25-2003, 08:15 PM

Looks like we will have the PMI facilities for use on, Saturday August 30th. I have use penciled in for both the drag strip and the road course.

I will post more details as I get them!

rivlee

01-25-2003, 11:23 PM

The 30th of what?

VicRattlehead

01-25-2003, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by rivlee
The 30th of what?

August '03

Boostman23

01-26-2003, 03:53 AM

hmm..
:confused:

thanks Vic.

ilusnforc

01-26-2003, 04:16 PM

HBK94SC -- too bad you aren't going to make it, i'm planning on it so hopefully i will make it there, but i have a '95 5-speed same color as yours, it would be cool to get them together.

Csasolutions

01-26-2003, 06:40 PM

89SCK@t
I'm on the South Eastside - Powers and Astrozon. 89SCK@t hope to see you in Pueblo on Aug 30th.

csarnold@netzero.net

Doug Franklin

01-29-2003, 05:39 AM

I guess it is too late to vote. I am not sure what the agenda is, but if it is to be fare to all parts of the country then it seems we need to go to the coast. What about contacting the groups on the coast about this? Oregon chirped up. I live in TX and travel to Utah alot. It is a dang far drive from SLC to Pullman, WA for instance. I would not dare mention TX as a place for the West even though I live here. CO. used to be part of TX. If I can I will attend to support the decision but I will be surprised if this draws the West into this. You have to go all the way to the coast where the population is. I feel all this accomplishes is making it convenient for us in the Central States and difficult for the Easterners.

At least in the future why not have a local chapter in that part of the country plan the event?

Doug Franklin

Doug Franklin

01-29-2003, 05:54 AM

For 2005 I vote Ft. Worth. See www.motorsportranch.com
A second track is under construction on the ranch. The clubhouse is finished and can be rented. There are showers and plenty of parking as well. Not sure if owner would allow overnighters, but Hotels are in Ft. Worth proper or down the road in Granbury.

For $95/car we can have use of the track where the staff will train us in road racing in car (groups follow the leader at some speed) and classroom, on the 11 turn track. Then let us have an open session. All in our own cars. But I would need to know soon to get us on the schedule. There is also dyno for hire on site and a skid pad. I live 3 miles down the road and have limited room for some campers or parking, if needed. We have drag strips in the MetroPlex as you know, and of course the sorta big oval.

There is a new huge World Class Race track facility being built in the area to bring European road racing to Dallas/Ft Worth area as well and should be finished by then. I believe a Drag Strip is included. The owner of MSRanch has a part in that track as well. I can find out more as I know him fairly well.

Just a thought.

Doug

ilusnforc

01-29-2003, 12:10 PM

That sounds great for an event in the 2005 MN12 Nationals... I would definitely be there.

5150Bird

03-06-2003, 09:08 PM

Hey whats up everyone, im usually at Tccoa but just felt like droppin a line over here. Hey i hear theres talk about having the 2003 meet on this part of the country, washington is a great place to cruse, we just had our track re-done, it was SIR but now its under new managment and called PR ( pacific raceways ) I have no problem trailering the bird if its somewhere else, but Seattle needs a flock of birds/cats to clog up the streets. Its cool that no matter where i go in seattle or surrounding cities that im known to many as the BirdMan. Anyways keep me informed on the place it will be held

SuperFreak206@hotmail.com
Drastik24@aol.com

Jesse