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89SCK@t
05-21-2003, 06:05 PM
Ok...I know she endured alot...but if you read this little letter that I received today, its pretty good, i think...
Some of you might disagree with this post, but Im sure some would agree with this...
Please respond to this with some comments...I would like to see everyone collective thoughts..
stephen
READ THE WHOLE THING...IT MAKES SENSE!
This is kinda mean, but it makes you think though, our days what is the meaning of a hero? I feel the same way whom ever wrote this does, we all signed our name on the dotted line, who figured we actually be going to war in this day and age, I wouldn't consider her a hero, don't get me wrong she served her country well but I think if we are going to reward her then reward every single person in the United States military, because I think we all have served our country in this war one way or another. just my opinion...what do you think?
Jessica Lynch. Hmm... where to start. For those who have absolutely
noidea who she is, I'll break it down for you. Jessica Lynch is a Private First Class for the US Army. She was part of the 507th Maintenance Company which is based in Fort Bliss, TX. She was deployed to Iraq for Operation Iraqi Freedom. A convoy which took a wrong turn in Nasiriya (Iraq) and was ambushed by Iraqi soldiers. Jessica Lynch was taken prisoner. According to reports I've read, an Iraqi citizen went out of his way to give the US information to her whereabouts, which ended up being in a hospital. A team of US Army Rangers, Special Forces, Navy SEALs, Marines, and Air Force pilots risked their lives for her successful and safe return home. Jessica Lynch was beaten pretty severely. Her arm was broken, as was both her legs, along with a spinal injury. So now she's back home, safe. All is well, she's made it thru surgery and will be making a quick recovery. Turn on the TV, and there she is. America's Hero. A living, breathing, inspiration to every female in America. America's hero has just received a FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO THE COLLEGE OF HER CHOOSING, STATE FUNDED!!! The media reports that she is being offered more than $8,000,000 in endorsement money. Wow. The radio announced that her parents are reading thru Hollywood movie scripts. The Lynch family is also offered a free, all expense paid vacation in Maui by whatever hotel. What. The. ****. Someone please explain to me what magical thing this chic did to deserve all these hand outs?
Lets go over that again. FREE Ride thru College, $8 million in endorsements, Hollywood movie, free hawaii vacation.... all for ****ing up and taking the wrong turn. What kinda **** is that. How can anyone justify rewarding someone for screwing up??? Ok ok ok, maybe I'm being a little bit insensitive. Let me back track a little bit. I totally realize that she has been through absolute HELL and BACK. Being tortured by Iraqi soldiers has got to be the worst feeling of pain imaginable. Being a female, it must have been twice as unpleasant, and I wouldn't doubt that she was raped. Yeah, that's gotta suck. There is a very good chance I will never ever, in my entire life have to endure the pain that she has been put through. I totally commend her and feel she truly deserves the Purple Heart that will be given to her, along with the praise and gratitude that her comrades and higher ups will give her.
That being said, this has gone way too far. This chic signed on the same dotted lines as any other US Armed Forces member, including myself. She knew what she was signing up for, right?
Or did she?
In an interview with her, she stated the only reason she joined the Army was for the Montgomery GI Bill, which was to take her thru school so that she could become a teacher. She attempted to evade Iraq as best she could. I believe her direct quote was "This is not what I signed up for." Everyone bask in the glory of America's Newest Hero. Oh are we forgetting that she wasn't the only POW? What about all the other POWs that will come home, are they going to get a free ride too? Surely if a female POW received free college for being captured that a Male will as well. Did the soldiers of Vietnam or desert storm get to pick their free college? Nope. What about royalities from movies? Vacations? Better people have endured worse things and received no rewards. What about the thousands of men and women out there STILL FIGHTING because they didn't **** up and take a wrong turn? What about the Rambo-like Special Ops person who has single handedly blown up 12 tanks with a butterknife and killed 42 elite republican guards using sand? What's he gonna get? How about we take all that college money, and spend it on care packages for deployed troop? OUr Americna Hero has a Montgomery GI Bill which will cover most of her college, she'll survive, after all that's the reason she signed up for the Army. Just to add insult to ****ing injury, it was reported on BBC that SHE WAS THE DRIVER. If this is in fact true, I think she should go to jail for murder. Not following directions is what gets you and your mates killed. Air Force pilot's have gone to jail for not following directions and blowing up the wrong target, what makes our New American Hero more special than they? Most of you will say its not her fault. I should be blaming the media and not her. Well you're absolutely right, the media is hyping this whole situation up. It becomes her fault the moment she accepts any of these and outs. She doesn't deserve them. Period. She did her job, whether she signed up for that part of her job or not. You don't get handouts for doing what you're supposed to do. She's no HERO. The real HERO'S are the ones still in Iraq fighting. The real hero is the Iraqi citizen who tipped the US off as to her wherabouts. Now that's a hero.
~Written by Jonathan P. King, USAF SrA~ R.I.P. April 12, 2003
Author failed to mention how this hero held her ground by covering her
head under the sheets when her rescuers showed up on scene.
gtx446
05-21-2003, 06:48 PM
hi the latest news about her that its all bull ship.. the rescue attempt was staged,,,sounds like political correctness bull ship.. v
007_SuperCoupe
05-21-2003, 06:56 PM
I have to say that there are parts that I agree with and parts that I don't. I believe that the name "Hero" should not apply to her. She was simply following orders. I agree with the author that the real hero's are all the individuals who risked thier lives to save her. I disagree though, that it was "her fault." In fact it was not. A Private First Class (E-3) will NEVER be in charge of a convoy. In each convoy there is a Convoy Commander. In this case, it was a Warrant Officer, who gave his life in the battle that followed. Was he wrong? I don't think so. The simple matter of fact is that the entire convoy (it was actually a portion of a serial which is smaller than a convoy) was traveling into HOSTILE ground. You cannot perform a recon of the area. The best you can hope for is a "map recon" which will give you an idea of where you are going, but nothing more than that. And let's not forget that they had stopped because of a mechanical failure in one of the vehicles. With that said, let's get onto the meat and potatoes...
Is it fair that she gets all those "perks" for really, doing nothing more than following orders? Well, let's look back at some other instances where soldier may not have gotten what they were supposed to. Anyone see that television movie not too long ago about the marine and the Saudi "Princess?" There you go, MOVIE. Simple fact of the matter, that Lance Corporal (E-3 again, notice a pattern?) broke some serious laws that exhist in the military world, (UCMJ or Universal Code of Military Justice). One of which, a civilian law too, smuggling an ILLEGAL ALIEN into the US. Sure he loved her, but sorry, do it the right way or don't do it at all. But the media caught wind of it and before you know it, MOVIE and the Marines simply let him go to avoid a PR "scandal."
And how about the soldiers who were taken prisoner in the Balkins when they came under fire during a security patrol. They did a big one. They split up. There were supposed to be 2 (two) vehicles performing the security patrol TOGETHER to avoid situations like that. But the NCO (Non-Commissioned Officer) who was in charge of the patrol took it upon himself and chose to divide the security force in half in order to cover ground faster. They should have been court martialed and released from the military service. But again, the media caught wind of it and made them out to be heros. They ended up getting 5 awards EACH for messing up big time. I don't know the details of the situation, but I do know that they were not following standing operating procedures (written commands basically). I could go on with other examples, but I won't.
So I ask again, is it fair. Probably not. But in her position, would you do any different. I'd take $8 million in endorsments! My SC would surpass even George's SWB! My family would be taken care of forever.
And back to the fault. The fault lies in one of two places. With every convoy there is supposed to be a security detail (usually MP's or Infantry) that will escort the convoy to its destination and provide the security (read WEAPONS) for that convoy. Either a portion of that security detail did not fall back with the small serial when one of its vehicles had mechanical problems. Or, there was not a security detail with that convoy. I'm leaning more towards the latter simply because of the speed in which the military obtained its objectives.
Some may agree with what I have said and some may not. But I can say that I know what I am talking about. I'm a Staff Sergeant (E-6) in the Army National Guard. I have spent more time Active Duty than in the Guard, so I've seen it from both sides. I have also had exsensive training in convoys and security. Tacticle units will teach you that fast. And the higher rank you are the more you are taught. At any rate, that is my $.02. Sorry for the length.
93 Mark VIII
05-21-2003, 07:51 PM
this is rediculous.
in this country, some people get opportunity. Being jealous of someone who served there country, almost lost their life, and gained some fame is not cool. If you think things aren't far, it's because life isn't always fair. Drive down the richest streets in your city and complain because they grew up with wealth while most of us didn't. That would be more reasonable than bitching about this.
And you can add to your report that she is still in medical treatment. At least that's what I heard last week.
I respect your opinion, but greatly disagree. To me it makes you look like someone whining about fairness. If you were in iraq and were injured also I would give you some merit, but as I understand it Jessica has contributed far more of her life to us and our country than you have.
Brian
p.s. most people know it wasn't staged, unless you are a hardcode LA times liberal
Kevin Varnes
05-21-2003, 07:53 PM
No offense to anyone, but this sounds like more internet crap. Does he list any specific sources in his "article". Sorry but "the media says" and "the radio says" don't qualify unless they are specific reports. And what did this guy camp out in there home so he knew they were sitting on the couch eating bon-bons and thumbing through grandeous Hollywood movie scripts? A few months ago I got a letter from a friend passing on some "information" relating to Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War written by another "retired military" person. It was written specifically to stir up emotions and elicit a response. It later turned out to be 99% false although I still think she is a worthless piece of crap. I don't believe most of the crap I read on the internet, especially if is something sent from a friend who got it from someone else and you just have to read it 'cause man it's really good, etc, etc, blah, blah.
plev72
05-21-2003, 08:05 PM
Guess it all depends on what moral you take from this story... being prior military, the moral I take is not that PFC Lynch is getting more than she deserves, but that the other soldiers/POWs etc are not getting all that they deserve. I medically retired from the army after 5 years 3 months and 5 days in... not because the army made me sick per se, but because I happened to be serving my country when I got sick. I spent 60 days in the hospital in 2001 while on active duty. Being medically retired (as opposed to discharged) means that for a nominal fee (a few hundred dollars per year) I am able to keep full medical coverage which will someday extend to my spouse and children (once I have) and in my case, due to the extent of my illness, I collect a percentage of salary in disability (don't know how long that will last, could end in Febraury, could last indefinately). I also receive the GI Bill (which I like everyone else who has it paid into) that for my initial contribution of $1600 I receive $1050/month as a fulltime student (not quite enough to pay for graduate school... but certainly a good return on investment). PFC Lynch joined the military for her own reasons, whatever they might be, bottom line is, whatever reservations she might have had, she went where she was told to go and she did what she was expected to. In terms of her "screwing up" you can't blame her for mistakes made by her superiors and on top of it, she has (as near as we can sift through from the media) done a great job of holding herself together... she isn't some "battle-hardened" super-trooper green beret... she is a 19 y/old girl who got 9 weeks of basic training and a couple of months of "truck repair" or some such schooling... and in the end ask yourself the question, how much would they need to pay you in order for you to wake up in cold sweats or screaming in the middle of the night because you were 19, alone, and being tortured?
Whether she is a 'hero' or not might be up for question, she is certainly a survivor though who wore the uniform and did the best she could in a difficult situation. I hope she and her family spend whatever money they might make in good health.
Paul Levine
SGT, USA (ret)
motocross_masta
05-21-2003, 08:46 PM
I agree w/ sum points that ppl have made here. Here's sum of them:
No offense to anyone, but this sounds like more internet crap. Does he list any specific sources in his "article". Sorry but "the media says" and "the radio says" don't qualify unless they are specific reports.
Completely agree... Get the facts straight, lies live in Hollywood.p.s. most people know it wasn't staged, unless you are a hardcode LA times liberal
Wut did i just say above?
Ok, now i dun wanna get too into this or I'll have one huge letter stretching over several pages... lemme just say this to 89SCK@t:
Think about this for a second.... do u think there are neon signs pointing u in the right direction when ur in Iraq? U think that its a walk in the park? Just walkin around w/ a fully automatic blowing ppls heads off? Even at that, I'M SURE THAT DIRT ROADS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT DON'T HAVE STREET SIGNS!!! Look at it from this view, Not everyone joins to serve their country and go blow up a couple middle eastern countries... some of them join to freeload off the benefits. SHE WAS 19! Think of sum1 u know that is 19 rite now... a 19 year old woman whether it b gf, niece, grand- daughter or ur neighbour for all i care. Imagine how messed up she'd b if she was in Irag rite now, imagine urself at 19, how would u feel in the middle of iraq surrounded by constant gun fire? I'm sure she was constantly scared for her life and shaking. I bet that if sum1 placed u in Iraq and told u to turn here -----> X I'm sure u might screw up too. No she doesn't deserve the benefits and no she doesn't deserve to b the "HERO" but u know wut? if she doesn't get the benefits for signing the dotted line then the Special Ops guy killing guys w/ sand and blowing up tanks w/ a plastic butter knife from KFC (How did he get it outta the wrapper? must b a hero!) doesn't deserve **** all either bcuz he signed the dotted line for the same damn job! C'mon man...
89SCK@t
05-21-2003, 09:16 PM
Im not saying that she didnt suffer, that she doesnt deserve whatever medal/honors that are given to her...but what about the other POW's? Have you heard a word about them? I havent..although i dont have enough time after work to watch TV or even read a Newspaper during work...
Another thing, the only reason i posted this is because I am also in the military, E-3 in the Air Force...I have done my time in a hostile territory, Saudi Arabia. I went there for a 3 month tour that got extend to 6. The job i had there, i thought, was bull-hockey, cause i was wasteing my intelligence sitting in the hot sun watching Pakistanies, Filipinoes, Indian, and whoever else that was poor and came to Saudi for money. Now, you guys are saying, so what he watched guys work, and got paid for it...I was 6-10 miles away from any building armed with a radio, and a cooler with water....thats it...the guys that were working had pick-axes, shovels, and heavy machinery...what would happen if i was to call someone on the radio if i got attacked? not a damn thing...being at least 6 miles away from any help...what was that for? The TCN's(third country nationals) were building another section of a base that would house a communications squadron. The communication squadron would provide intelligence that was passed to it on to the pilots so they could bomb the right targets in Iraq so they could keep the United States safe....What did i get for risking my life everyday? a freakin ribbon...i only say i risked my life everyday, cause there were a couple of people that did my job that got attacked by the TCN's cause the TCN's were paid to do so from an outside source, they never told the SP's were they got the $1000 dollars from to try and kill the Americans...
sorry its so long but i dont want you guys to think im not in the military and i havent served my country...I signed the dotted line, i didnt whine about being in Saudi during the summer months, i did what i was told to do...
I cant remember what my dad told me, he served the Air Force during Desert Storm/Shield, but he got to ride back with a few Army individuals, a reporter asked how the army guy felt to be a hero, after we won the war in the desert, he said, "I'm not a Hero, I was just doing my job." Thats the way it should be. We did our job. I think the reason that she is getting so much recognition, is because she is a WOMAN. Thats all. My .02 cents. I want to see some more responses..
motocross_masta
05-21-2003, 09:30 PM
In that case no1 is a hero in the military. Obviously, the people who rescue their fellow men get a metal and get called a Hero for saving sum1. We've already established that she shouldn't b labeled a "Hero." GET OVER IT! Life just isn't fair sumtimes. Maybe next time ur in that position u can purposely make a wrong turn and be on the opposite side of the tracks, maybe u'll think that the world has been balanced once again when u get $8Million. I don't think she's getting all this money for messing up. I think she got the money cuz THEY messed up. Someone sent her in the wrong direction and for that she payed w/ Broken legs and arms and a spinal injury. I'm not an insurance buff, so i don't know if life insurance covers u when u go to war (doesn't make sense) but lets just say it did. Lets say that she did the exact same thing but she was being offered all these perks from the insurance agency instead of from the state... then would u still b freaking out? Would u still b claiming its unfair?
-CJ
PS:I think the reason that she is getting so much recognition, is because she is a WOMAN.
U gotta b kidding me!!I think you might of offended some Sc'ers here. Its funny that u didn't mention that the first time:rolleyes:
89SCK@t
05-21-2003, 10:11 PM
I dont mean to offend anyone...but I think it's still true...sorry if I did.
stephen
--Edit--
I wouldnt be complaining if she had gotten the 8 million from her life insurance...not to mention, she would get world class medical care from the military, no matter what....
Also keep in mind, I didnt write it.
I agree with Kevin on the basis of this "letter" (who was it to and how did it get out?) and also Paul as for the general perspective of the situation. Saved me a lot of typing. :D
There are way too many "letters" and "articles" out on the internet. Someone steals a writer's name to put on it (Paul Harvey is common), or make some name/situation up and they email it out to try to add strength and vailidity to their opinion. I rarely read or them or give them any kind of regard. "Hero" is subjective to the person using the word, it isn't universal.
92TBurnSC
05-21-2003, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Kevin Varnes
No offense to anyone, but this sounds like more internet crap. Does he list any specific sources in his "article". Sorry but "the media says" and "the radio says" don't qualify unless they are specific reports. And what did this guy camp out in there home so he knew they were sitting on the couch eating bon-bons and thumbing through grandeous Hollywood movie scripts? A few months ago I got a letter from a friend passing on some "information" relating to Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War written by another "retired military" person. It was written specifically to stir up emotions and elicit a response. It later turned out to be 99% false although I still think she is a worthless piece of crap. I don't believe most of the crap I read on the internet, especially if is something sent from a friend who got it from someone else and you just have to read it 'cause man it's really good, etc, etc, blah, blah.
Sorry fella. My father was serving in Vietnam at the time of that whole Jane Fonda thing. It's true. 100% True AND sick.
But I agree with this letter. It comes from a somewhat credible source. And even if she ISN'T given all those perks, we all know what kind of "hero" she has been painted as. You know who the REAL heros are? The soldiers, sailors and pilots you have never heard of. For instance, the USAF person that wrote the letter in the first place. Or people like my grandfather who served in the European Theater of WWII from the beginning to the end, as well as the entire Korean War and the first year of US involvement in Vietnam, at which point he retired after serving our nation for 27 years as a W-4.
However, the thing that REALLY jerks my chain is how a lot of people sya that our soldiers are fighting for OUR safety, for OUR freedom. Boloney. The last time that our military fought for OUR freedom (and even this is arguable) was in Afghanistan. And I think that hardly counts beyond catching bin Laden (which we still haven't done). But, removing that we have...World War II. That's the last time the actual sovereignty of our nation was actually threatened. How so you ask? Hitler was trying to strike up a deal with the President of Mexico promising, upon Axis victory, the entire portion of the US that once belonged to Mexico (Read: Texas, California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and Oklahoma). Fortunately, our buddies south of the border saw the only outcome being defeat and declined.
If you say you're a hero, you're obviously not. Heroes say nothing of their deeds and expect nothing in return. That's what makes a hero.
If you say you're fighting for US freedom and security, somebody better be knocking on our border door with a damn big bomb.
[/rant]
Originally posted by 92TBurnSC
...You know who the REAL heros are? The soldiers, sailors and pilots you have never heard of...[/rant]
I'll see your rant and raise you a Devil's Advocate ;)
Not picking on you, but I've heard that a lot. Why is it that soldiers, sailors and pilots who you never hear of and never get the spotlight are considered heroes, but when they do get the spotlight, people cry bullsh!t and say they aren't deserving?
People in general would rather keep the military as faceless heroes, generalized as a single entity. They don't seem to accept them when they are singled out.
Not all can get attention for their accomplishments, there are too many. At least some are presented to the public, that's all that can be done. That's better than nothing.
I don't know if she's what I would consider a hero, but I'm certainly not going to belittle her because some see her that way. That's ridiculous.
Kevin Varnes
05-21-2003, 11:59 PM
Sorry fella. My father was serving in Vietnam at the time of that whole Jane Fonda thing. It's true. 100% True AND sick.
Sorry fella, but so were my uncle and father. I know what she did and I have a deep hate for her for that. My point was that this letter that I received took what she did and added alot of things that never took place and was completely fabricated (for what purpose I do not know). If I still had the e-mail I would post it, but I deleted it long ago.
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
05-22-2003, 12:00 AM
The fact is the media will cater to what peopel want to hear..Young woman..Hero...CASH COW..They want to bask her in money..Good for her...In this day and age..And think about this one...How many people in the armed forces actually joined to fight a real war and risk being killed???..Not many ..Believe me I know...So who are the heroes?..
The men and woman who were sent to Iraq even though they would rather be at home living it up on uncle sams money?
Perhaps it's the ignorant gunho people who have no idea about Americas foriegn policy..Kill the commi type attitude.
Perhaps it's the men and women who feel we need to defend our way of living no matter what the cost is.
Maybe its the people who run to be enlisted when a war is going on expecting nothing but to defend our country..
There are many ways to look at it...
You chose to enlist...It's your job..DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING BUT A PAYCHECK IN RETURN..
Me..I personaly feel people enlist for many different reasons...But regardless..They are there...We are here..Who is a hero?...A wounded man/woman?...A soldier that saved someones life?
Hey you tell me..Its all how you percieve it to be
plev72
05-22-2003, 02:23 AM
Realizing that it isn't a huge amount of course, you did neglect to mention that in addition to getting a Ribbon (actually probably 2 or 3...) you also didn't pay taxes for any portion of the months you were in the middle-east as well as hazardous duty pay... again, I realize none of that adds up to 8 mil, but it is still a bit of extra bucks. Honestly, would you prefer that it was you that had been captured and held POW? You want to flip a coin? Heads you get to be PFC Lynch and get a bunch of money, some nightmares, and a few broken bones (assuming she wasn't raped or whatever else... the military tends to be a bit hush-hush when that stuff happens... don't want to discourage women from joining the military)... tails, you get tortured and killed and your family gets to pick up your $250,000 in life insurance... well, and I think your kids (if you have any) get free schooling.
Paul
Is she a hero ? No.
Is the media to blame ? Yes
As far as the rest of her story goes.....well , that's just the crux of it , it's a story. The media is trying to get the attention of a society that is so used to sensationalism that if it wasn't said on "American idol" (retch) than nobody heard anything ! Story- Young male G.I goes to war gets beat up, maybe held captive and returns home to the U.S, and a few people glance up from their computers,play stations,jobsand countless other forms of entertainment and yawn. They have heard this story before, and with peoples current attention span being about 25 min. at one sitting the media knows .....They need some spice. Story- A young WOMAN G.I goes to war ,really gets beat up ,throw in the good possibility of rape, gets rescued and comes home to the U.S and you have a story that people have not heard before.
Is it fair ? No.
8 mil. ,movie deal,book deal deserved ?????
Well, looks like high school phenom lebron James is gonna sign with Adidas for 75 mil..............for jumping high and playing a GAME really well !!!!
Who is a hero now ????
America is an amazing place ? Yes
Andy 94SC
05-22-2003, 02:11 PM
first of all I think there are far more important things to argue about and get worked up over than this. Is it really important who does and does not consider her a hero?
But there are a few points I want to bring up. I don't think she really is being treated all that unfairly differently than some other POWs. Yes she is treated a bit differently now, but that is because she was treated differently THERE.
The whole because she's a woman....I don't know what to say, except what about THE OTHER WOMAN POW who was also returned from Iraq? Shoshana Johnson? She isn't quite as in the spotlight because her story is different, she was rescued along with the rest of that larger group. That rescue was later when there wasn't as much resistance and was much less dramatic.
Why is Hollywood knocking on the door for the story of Jessica's rescue? Because it really is one hell of a story! It's a true to life Saving Private Ryan with a good dose of Rambo and Delta Force thrown in. Jessica might be the center character, but truly there are other heros as well, and I hope any movie also portrays them as such. The special ops forces, and especially the Iraqii lawyer. He risked his and his families lives several times for that operation to be a success. He is being ignored purposely for his own safety. He has been moved here to the U.S. and given a pretty nice job, but I am sure he and his familly are still a target for being "traitors" to Iraq.
And you don't ever hear a peep about other POW's? John McCain? James Stockdale (Ross Perots '92 running mate) also had movie and book deals over his POW experience. What about Blackhawk Down, wasn't that a true story? What about the other POW's that were just featured on the CMA'awards http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/05/21/cma.awards.ap/index.html ? I don't think the rest of the POW's are being ignored. I truly think (hope) America learned a real lesson on how Veterans should be treated after Vietnam.
Dale Puumala
05-22-2003, 02:48 PM
If you say you're a hero, you're obviously not. Heroes say nothing of their deeds and expect nothing in return. That's what makes a hero.
I don't think I've ever heard her say anything. I'll bet she never even expected anything, either. She didn't go asking for no $8 million.
If you say you're fighting for US freedom and security, somebody better be knocking on our border door with a damn big bomb.
So you're saying nobody, right this very minute, is interested in totally destroying the U.S.A.? Sadaam isn't? Osama bin Laden isn't? They have no interest in the U.S. at all? Okayyyyyyyyyyyyy...
Frankly, people ARE knocking on our door with a damn big bomb...just not a conventional bomb. It might not even make a big boom.
Dale
BlueThunder90
05-22-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by 89SCK@t
I wouldnt be complaining if she had gotten the 8 million from her life insurance...not to mention, she would get world class medical care from the military, no matter what....
Also keep in mind, I didnt write it.
I call major BS. How would she get money from her life insurance? Did she die? No. Was she injured, sure. Her expenses were paid for by the government.
"Acts of War" are NOT covered in your insurance policy. If you go, fight and die, the only compensation you will receive is from the Army/Navy, etc.
That said, I think the attention she got during this ordeal was blow out of proportion. What about the rest of the POW's who were injured or killed?
plev72
05-23-2003, 04:44 AM
Our (ok... their as I'm out) life insurance policy does cover acts of war and what not... otherwise they wouldn't be taking it out of the military paychecks. Currently it is $250,000 for around $17.00 a month.
This 'women in combat' and women POW and KIA and everything issue has become quite a big deal here in AZ. The governor (I think she was the one) pushed this renaming of one of our freeways and mounains to be changed from "Squaw Peak" which apparently was found by some people to be offensive to "Piestawa PeaK" not sure on the spelling of that last name, due to the fact that she is the first native american woman to be killed in action. They waved a 5 year naming hiatus and sundry other things to get this done quick fast and in a hurry. In addition to asking how exactly one pronounces "Piestawa" a lot of locals here are none to pleased that they have chosen to name it after one fallen soldier because they do see it as a belittling of the loss of the other women and men who were killed in action. The question for a lot of people is not over the name change per se, but why it was named "Piestawa Peak" and "Piestawa Parkway" (highway??) instead of being named "Soldiers' Peak" or "Soldiers' Memorial Freeway" or something like that to include all the others who have given their lives.
Paul
1BADSC
05-24-2003, 12:09 AM
I think she should take everything she is given, which one of you wouldn't take it all. The main reason she got all of this was because the media hyped it all up. I for one almost never heard them refer to her as Private First class Lynch, they always called her Jessica Lynch, which I think is an insult to her. She worked hard to get to where she is at. Even if she is only a private, she still earned it. The Media really disrespected her and jumped on the hearts of American's by playing it up. But in my own opinion she did nothing wrong. Are all the benifits a bit much, maybe. I think all out soliders deserve more respect. They risk their lives to protect us. I for one am proud to be an American and support our troops no matter what the cause.
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