DIS for a day?

[Night-Ryder]

Anyone in the GTA Got a DIS modual i can borrow for a day or two for a 93SC just cause im not sure if mine is the culprit of the no starting or not so i wanna try one out before i go and buy something that i dont need.
Thanks
Nick

PS Anyone know the size of the nuts holding on the drivers side catalytics to the exhaust manifold?

[SeanMatteson]

Nick,

I can't help you out with the DIS, but I just wanted to let you know that I handed off that vacuum "T" to Jason Wild at the meet last night.

I left most of the vacuum lines attached so you could figure out where your stuff goes, but I would like that stuff back if you don't need it, OK?

Good luck!

Cheers,

Sean

[Night-Ryder]

Thanks Sean i actually just got a PM from Jason saying he might be commin up tonight to take a look.
I just need the Tree so if jason comes up he can just take back the hoses.
Thanks Again
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[Bill McNeil]

Nick,

What was used to seal your intercooler tubes?

Just curious.

Let me know.

[Night-Ryder]

The kit that ED gave me had these 3 rings that were kinda rubbery and it said on the box 3 IC thingys so i used those.
U suspect a vacuum leak ?
When cranking the boost gauge will hop around a little bit in either direction and by a little i mean like 3Vac-1PSI

[Jason Wild]

Nick,
Do they look like a big o ring?
what was used on the blower top?

[Night-Ryder]

That they do Mr.Wild
On the SC to SC top i didnt have any gasket material but its on there pretty tight so i dont suspect it but it doesnt mean its ruled out. For the nut on the top i just got a stick and hammer and tightened it up ( Did this before and never had any vacuum leaks when the car ran.
The reason i think its the DIS is cause my buddy came up and he checked and said the car has fuel and spark but the timming was off or somthing i wasent here when he came up so im just relaying the message from my mom but the DIS got very hot coolant on it after the motor went and i know the DIS is a very picky thing.

[Jason Wild]

Nick,
I think you have a BIG vac leak to tell you the truth.

[Night-Ryder]

If ur free tonight can u stop by Jason ?
Ill have the top and IC off ahead of time if u wish.
Also the vacuum lines in the back of the plenum i had to use my own sorta Tree thing and i am pretty sure its not air sealed heehe
would a vacuum line loose in that tree cause no start, ive ran the car in idle for a long time before with the some of the hoses off in the back before.

[Night-Ryder]

Remeber i have little to no engine experience so there is always the chance of something not put in right like a proper seal or something thats why i want some one who knows this engine very well to take a look and toss an opinion out.
Call me if u can come up Jason
905-927-2390

I wont be home till Monday after tonight so if not then any time next week is good by me too but the sooner the better
:D

[Night-Ryder]

Not to rule out vacuum leak but another reason i think it might be DIS is because the motor is making a close to if not identical to the sound that it made the day it died and i tryed starting it.
I am thinking now that the DIS got the hot coolant on it and thats why the car shut off when the motor went.
Sound crazy or possible ?

[Jason Wild]

Nick,
I will call you after I have some dinner

[Night-Ryder]

Thanks Jason
Bring what ever u think it could be.
Also if u have any extra vacuum lines bring those too.
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[Jason Wild]

Nick,
Lets hope it's not raining.

[Night-Ryder]

I got the IC and upper tube off now ( dont worry they are sealed up so no water getting in there ! eheh)
This way we can rule that out when we put it back on.
Also the bolts that Hold on the SC top
what size are they ?
The ones on there now are 13 and seem a little bigger then i remember when the car went for the rebuild.
Either way
Call me up and we will sort somthing out.

[Bill McNeil]

Also the vacuum lines in the back of the plenum i had to use my own sorta Tree thing and i am pretty sure its not air sealed heehe

Nick,

This kind of thing is exactly why I told you not to start chasing sensors and "broken" parts when there is a reason the car won't run based on things that have been worked on/touched/altered, not sensors failing when they weren't even in use.

Just as I had to learn from everyone else when I was inexperienced and lacking knowledge, I would suggest you start to do the same.

[Bill McNeil]

Nick,

I just thought of something while eating dinner. I'm willing to put my money on the possibility that your cam stator wasn't put back in the correct position. The cam sensor is really only used during the starting sequence, and if out by enough of a margin, will cause the vehicle not to start. If it is only out slightly, then the car may start, but run very rough and backfire. Unless your engine builder has the exact SC stator tool (which is VERY doubtful considering most Ford dealerships don't have it), or unless he marked the exact position before disassembling the motor, then then he would not have known how and where to position it.

This isn't to say that you don't have a vacuum leak problem also, which I'm sure you do, but this is somewhere to start. Without having the tool, or another motor sitting right next to it to compare with, it will be difficult to line it up properly.

I think this possibility is worth looking into.

[Night-Ryder]

Jason came by tonight ( thanks again Jason) and we looked it over and resealed the IC tubes with RTV and still no start but this time the battery is dead again. Jasons suggestion which makes a lot of sense is that my clutch fluid wasent refilled when the motor was put back in and he thinks that the tranny is trying to turn with the motor not allowing it to turn. Very good possibility.
Other then that it looked okay to him.

Sean,
I got the part off Jason Thanks a bunch for it.
Ill be outta the area until monday and wont get a chance to
work on her but ill let you all know whats going on then.
And the Cam thing u speak of Bill how do i check for this??

Have a good one
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[Jason Wild]

I would like to add a little to what Nick said.
The main reason the car is having a hard time turning over is because the battery is dead. The clutch not having fluid is not I big deal in not being able to start the car it's just going to be hard to drive it.

Bill,
Has a vary good point about the cam stator not being in right.