Piston and rod group purchase has now begun.....

[BT Motorsports]

Please view the details at the below link. I am still adding information and expect to complete the page update this evening. Please direct questions to me at Paul@BlueTongueMotorsports.com not on this thread.

http://www.bluetonguemotorsports.com/BTMParts/3_8PistonRodGP.html

Paul

[DLF]

I'm paid!

[plev72]

I'm not yet paid (you've got mail Paul) but I'm definately in. We really need to hit 5 to see the best advantage on this deal...

[DLF]

Let's go people! Step up.

[DLF]

Paul, How many people have paid up?

This is looking pretty sad....

[BT Motorsports]

Doug, unfortunately, what you see is what you get. I know Paul Levine and MIke D. will be in for sure, they will be paying next week though. My brother is planning to get a set if he is the deciding factor. There was lots of talk about getting in on this before but as usual, more talk than action:( Hopefully there are 1 or more others who just havent stepped forward yet.

Paul

[DamonSlowpokeBaumann]

Yeah guys..STEP UP!!!!!!..And go for the optional Gold coat coating for pistons:O)..Paul maybe post this up on one of the v6 stang forums

[Valentino]

I'm waiting to hear from Dr. Fred before I can jump in on this. Hope he gets back to me soon as I would like to do this.

Val

[v6stanger]

Yes I would post this same deal on the v6 stang boards. We have a few people building motors that should be interested.

232stangs.com
3.8mustang.com
v6power.net

[nanatothesixth]

count me in ! also the swain coating. thanks! i'll pay up thursday!

[Valentino]

I'm in too. Swain...rockers... the whole nine. How many people does that make now.

Val

[BT Motorsports]

OK, DLF is paid, Paul L. should be paying by Friday as will Mike D. Valentino says he is in as well as nanatothesixth. As soon as everyone mentioned here pays, we will have 5 people total and I will get the orders rolling.

Paul

[nanatothesixth]

all paid!

[Randy N Connie]

Paul, If I send you the money in 08-01-03
How many days will it take to get the piston,
rods,rings.

Can this be done in 6 or 7 days.At my door

Thanks randy

[BT Motorsports]

NO.

Please read the group purchase page for lead times. Had everyone ponied up at the beginning of the buy, I would have placed the order then. Unfortunately, it was not in everyones budget I would presume and as a result, the soonest I can place the order is Monday morning. If you come across a reputable place that will make custom pistons in 7 days or less, please pass it along to me.

Paul

P.S. nanatothesixth paid this evening and it looks like Valentino will be paying tomorrow morning as well as Paul L. Mike D will be paying tomorrow as well.

[v6stanger]

Hey Paul,

Just wondering if I can get a set of .030 over Total Seal Rings while the purchase is going on if the price is somewhat reduced.

Thanks,

Zach

[BT Motorsports]

As of 7am eastern today, DLF, Valentino and nanatothesixth have paid....Mike D. and Paul L will be paying via mail today as well so we have met the 5 person discount rate. I will be placing the order Monday morning.

Paul

[BT Motorsports]

The order for the pistons has been placed as of 3pm Monday. I will be submitting the actual work order today with actual overbore size details as soon as I receive bore information from one of the buy participants who forgot to include it. Everything appears to be on schedule.

Paul

[DLF]

I know it's early, but any news yet?

[BT Motorsports]

Only news is that everything is on schedule with the original timelines posted on the group buy page. If anything changes, I will inform everyone.

Paul

[BT Motorsports]

Just got off the phone with Diamond, pistons will be shipping out between Weds and Fri of this week. On the flip side, rods are running behind schedule and may not arrive to me for distribution until the middle of next week:mad: Will keep everyone posted on that. I know this will only affect 1 person (DLF) but it is out of my control. As far as timelines go in general, its nothing to get frantic over as everyone else will see their parts arrive at the same time. For those getting the Swain coating, I will update with Swain late next week.

Paul

P.S. Zach, never heard back from you on the rings you asked about. Drop me a line if you need them still, now is the time to get them shipped out.

[DLF]

Originally posted by BT Motorsports
I know this will only affect 1 person (DLF) but it is out of my control.

So I'll get the pistons and rings first, followed by the rods a week or so later?

If that's the case, I can at least get the block work started, and have the rotating assembly balanced a little later.

[v6stanger]

Sorry I forgot to e-mail you back. I found a lower price on the rings so I went that route.

Thanks,

Zach

[BT Motorsports]

Doug, you may see the pistons as soon as Tuesday Aug 26th in my estimation. The rods may not arrive to you until after Monday Sept 4th however. I will email you directly when they arrive to me since you are 1 business day ship time from me.

Paul

[DLF]

Originally posted by BT Motorsports
Doug, you may see the pistons as soon as Tuesday Sept 26th in my estimation. The rods may not arrive to you until after Monday Sept 4th however. I will email you directly when they arrive to me since you are 1 business day ship time from me.

Paul

Gee, I hope you meant Tuesday August 26th......

[BT Motorsports]

Grrrrr these 20 hour work days are catching up. The date has been corrected.

Paul

[DLF]

Thanks Paul! :D :D

[cheeriosluvr]

hey paul you should have gotten with me ont he bearings and Swain Coatings........im right down the road from Swain and we get a TON of bearings done.......

if i had the money for this i would have been on it like white on rice...but im a little short on cash now

todd

[Valentino]

For us guys that got the Swain coating or the roller rockers?

Just wondering,

Val

[BT Motorsports]

Just waiting on Swain, if I do not hear anything by Monday I will be giving them a call. As for the rockers, I have yours here Val, I am holding them until the rods arrive and are ready to ship (hopefully early next week). If you need them sooner, drop me an email.

Paul

[Valentino]

Thanks Paul.

[Tman]

would these parts fit on a fwd block?...i already plan on getting a forged s/c crank...if so i can come up witht he cash in a few weeks

[BT Motorsports]

I do not see why they wouldnt fit a FWD block, however I would recomend you confirm the specs of the SC engine bore and stroke to yours as a precaution. What compression ratio are you looking to acheive?

Paul

[white90sc]

All Paid, In full

[BT Motorsports]

I just checked my paypal account and do not see anything from you white90sc. I would suggest you recheck your payment.


Paul

[white90sc]

OK, It didnt go though can i still sign up?

Jerry V.

[plev72]

I'm assuming you've talked with Paul offline? If not, send him an email at info@bluetonguemotorsports.com he is back in town and should get back to you fairly quickly.

If anyone is wondering about the status, I spoke with Paul and the folks that are doing the coating ran in to some shipping confusion... but they should be in the mail early next week.

As an aside, has anyone else weighed their rods? I have mine, but haven't weighed them yet.

Thanks,
Paul

[Valentino]

Paul early this week, he said the problem with the rods was an isolated incident. I received my rods about a week ago and I only checked to see what was in the box.

Val

[DLF]

The rod issue happened to me, and was a special problem that won't affect anyone else. Paul took care of it promptly.

[plev72]

Cool, good deal :-)

[white90sc]

Whats the deal no e-mail back?

Jerry

[BT Motorsports]

Jerry, havent seen any email from you. Please try sending it to Paul@BlueTongueMotorsports.com

Paul

[DLF]

What's the torque spec for the H-Beam rod bolts?

[DLF]

HELLO?

[cougarsc]

For the torque, use the Arp specs:

http://www.arp-bolts.com/pages/tech/images/rod_bolt.pdf

[DLF]

Originally posted by cougarsc
For the torque, use the Arp specs:

http://www.arp-bolts.com/pages/tech/images/rod_bolt.pdf

That would be extremely helpful, if I knew the part number of the rod bolts.

[cougarsc]

ARP 351w hi perf rod bolts/nuts 150-6004

I think 50 ft-lbs with Arp lube.

[DLF]

Originally posted by cougarsc
ARP 351w hi perf rod bolts/nuts 150-6004

I think 50 ft-lbs with Arp lube.

I really appreciate your trying to help, but there are no nuts. And these are 220,000 psi bolts (at least I think so).

I was actually hoping that Paul, or someone else that bought these, and knows the answer, would reply.

[cougarsc]

I think the manufacturer of the rods picked the bolts. You might ask supercatxr7

The 150-6004 is a rod bolt kit.

Other 351w rod bolts

150-6404 250-6404

They all list 50 ft-lbs

http://www.fastengineparts.com/images/products/small_0000000arprodboltkit.jpg

http://www.fastengineparts.com/products_view.php?id=110

[DLF]

Thanks. Turns out they're 8740 cap screws (210,000 PSI). The 7/16" 8740 cap screws listed by ARP all show 60 lft-lbs, but different stretch specs.

Can someone who participated in this group buy, please either tell me, or send a scan of the rod bolt specs? I specifically need the torque and stretch specs. The ARP part number for the rod bolts would be perfect.

I never saw the box the rods came in, they went straight to my machinist.

Thanks

[BT Motorsports]

I never saw the packaging they came in either since I never opened the boxes. DLF, the manufacturer advised 65lbs as I stated in my email to your inquiry a few days ago. I don't have any stretch specs.

Paul

[DLF]

I didn't receive any emails from you until this evening.

65 ft-lbs is what I used.

[DLF]

I still need the stretch specs, if anyone's got them.....