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Bill McNeil
08-05-2003, 01:44 PM
This thread is basically to establish any interest in having what was supposed to be an annual SCCoO BBQ event. Last year was an amazing success, and was hosted by Greg Coleman, for those who weren't there.

This year, Greg is unable to host the BBQ due to his busy schedule and a recent death in the family. As a result, we would need someone else to come forward and offer their backyard for this event, or we will need to cancel the event for this year.

As of now I don't even know what weekend would be suitable, as there are only 4 left, and we usually need several weeks to plan such an event. Labour Day weekend is usually a bad idea, and the weekend before has been mentioned in other plans and events, as well as several people mentioning they will be away at that time.

Please post here with your suggestions and comments, or to offer a venue for us to hold this event. Keep in mind, there would need to be SAFE parking for around 20 cars, a washroom facility available for everyone to use, and a backyard that will have room for table, chairs and cooking space, plus at least 40 people.

Keep in mind this event is normally suitable for a Sunday afternoon

Thanks in advance!

SeanMatteson
08-05-2003, 04:00 PM
Since we're looking for a new venue for this event, might I suggest that we consider making this a SCCoO picnic?!

We could all meet at a place like Knight's Beach, or some other park along the shores of Lake Erie. These places are typically well setup for this type of an event. Often, you can park the cars right on the grass near the picnic area. We could bring our own BBQ's and have everyone pitch in (pot-luck).

...Fun for the whole family!

What do you guys think?

...Might make for some spectacular photos! ...Both with and without the cars.

Cheers,

Sean

lazybird4pt6
08-05-2003, 04:19 PM
I think Sean's idea is great! Less pressure on any one person (or couple) for many reasons. Would this be like a "Pot-Luck" thing? If not a beach then perhaps a Conservation Area, like Kelso (just a name, for reference). We've done that at work for years and it's always been convenient. You can also go hiking, biking, sailing, etc. with the kids. Very family-fun oriented.
Good one, Sean.

MY90SC
08-05-2003, 04:29 PM
I know it is a little far but I'd like to suggest going to lake Huron. The water is muchos better in my opinion. We just went down to Port Ryerse(lake Erie) for the day on Sunday and we were dissapointed with the water it was very silty and full of weeds. No comparison to Lake hurons clean clear water for swimming which would be the activity of choice at a beach I would think.
Maybe Grand Bend we could get some of the London Area crowd maybe even some people from Michigan.
Toronto to Grand Bend is 223 km's
Toronto to Sauble beach is 219 km's
Toronto to Wasaga Beach is 134 km's

any of those locations have huge sand beaches

SeanMatteson
08-05-2003, 04:35 PM
Ron,

I think Port Ryerse has about the worst beaches on Lake Erie. Port Dover, Turkey Point and Long Point are definitely better. I would have to call the folks at Knight's Beach for information regarding the current conditions at their beach to know whether the algae is a problem.

I thought that Lake Huron was typically cold? The waters of Lake Erie are way warm, due the how shallow the lake is generally.

...But whatever the majority decides is fine with me.

Cheers,

Sean

T1Bird
08-05-2003, 05:40 PM
thats a sweet idea IMO, used to go to Turkey Point all the time, if i remember correctly there was stationary BBQ's there all you have to bring is the coals and the fluid and a lighter.. would be perfect for some hot dogs and burgers..

lazybird4pt6
08-05-2003, 07:50 PM
Don't forget the marshmallows! For the kids, of course. I'll share, I promise.;)

Bill McNeil
08-05-2003, 10:45 PM
I think you all have good ideas, but let's keep distance in mind for the majority of club members. That is a lot of driving for most of us, which may cut into our time to BBQ and have fun. Couldn't we find somewhere more local to hold such an event? There are some decent locations along the lower portion of Lake Simcoe perhaps? You can swim there also, and parking is available without a problem.

You are the membership, so you decide, but if you guys want to go all the way to lake Erie, I'll need some volunteers to come forward who live closer to the chosen venue to help organize the event.

Let me know.....

SeanMatteson
08-06-2003, 09:03 AM
If the verdict is that we use a location along the north shore of Lake Erie, then I'll volunteer to assist with organizing the event.

Have you guys tried the drive from Brantford, St. Catherines or Hamilton to Lake Simcoe??? That's probably worse than Lake Erie, just because of the greater volume of traffic for most of the route to Lake Simcoe. At least the drive to Lake Erie would be a little scenic. And there's nothing stopping anyone from swimming in Lake Erie! ...But that's just my opinion, and yeah, I suppose I'm a little biased because Lake Erie is way closer to me than Sauble or Wasaga or Lake Simcoe.

Cheers,

Sean

lazybird4pt6
08-07-2003, 09:29 PM
How's this for local (keep in mind where I live).
High Park
Cherry Beach (swimming okay??)
a park along Lakeshore
one of the parks along Humber River (at least four South of Lawrence, three North)
one of the parks along Don River (maybe "smelly"?!)
- keep in mind these are not locations suited for swimming, sorry
also, if not for a picnic, then maybe worth a try as a meet location?Just trying to help.

EGGZ_90 _SC
08-07-2003, 11:02 PM
hey guys im in for this...if you guys pick down here (brantford) lake erie i can help out with alot of stuff ... or you guys pick higher up like sauble or something im still in .. just let me know and im there..later all

BlueThunder90
08-18-2003, 12:02 AM
There's tons of parks in the GTA. Have a look at this list of parks in Toronto, many with plenty of parking and a picnic area.

Where are most of the SCCoO members from? Driving a long way for a picnic seems overkill and might turn people away. A nice central location would serve all best.

http://www.toronto.ca/parks/parks_gardens/index.htm

MY90SC
08-18-2003, 07:04 AM
well guys my opinion is that we hit lake huron or Notawasaga bay somewhere the water is a little cooler but not enough to worry about this time of year. With my daytrip to Grand Bend I have hit both lakes this year within the last month and I will never go to lake Erie unless I'm in a boat and can get to the clean water for swimming sorry guys the algea and crap in the water is just too much for swimming and the sand is not even nice. Joanna and i will be hitting Sauble next Saturday(August 23rd) leaving early Saturday morning and spending the whole day at the beach.
I can pull my car right on to the beach parking is like 5 bucks we are packing a huge cooler full of food and drinks and it is going to be a blast depending on weather of course. If anyone else wants to go for the day let me know we can hook up in Sauble or Convoy up together.

Sean your signature line says it all for me. Lake Erie is soooo mediocre for swimming off the beach. Great for Pickeral fishing and swimming off the boat.

kewl hope some people can make it seeya

Ryan A Harris
08-18-2003, 03:57 PM
Ron, I like the sounds of that day of the 24th. What time do you think you will leave around? Lets do that, for a day trip, sounds great to me. Sauble is GT's(Good Times)no other words can explian the times I've spent there.;)

As for the BBQ, can we set up a poll for this, may help things move along faster.

Bill McNeil
08-18-2003, 06:27 PM
I've been out of town since Thursday, so I'm sorry things have been moving slowly on this front. As much as I appreciate the ideas that have been brought forward thus far, the BBQ is supposed to be a local event, that will attract the most amount of members possible. When stretching the event too far North, East or West, people may not attend strictly due to the driving distance and time involved in travelling.

I've spoken briefly to Ed about this, and he mentioned we may have to pass on having an official BBQ this year if we don't have a volunteer to offer their property and facilities, or a suitable venue is not chosen. That isn't to say that people can't arrange their own get-togethers between club members, but on the official side of things, we need an acceptable venue before we can proceed.

This has been a rather busy year for everyone working on their cars etc, which has been quite evident with the reduction in track times and dyno numbers coming forward. With everyone busy at work on their cars, and a relatively weak show of interest to date, we may have to pass for this season. That isn't to say we will pass for sure at this point, but that is the direction we are headed unless we all come together and show some interest, as well as agree on somewhere local to hold the event.

A public area is not a bad idea, but keep in mind, that means people we do not know will be around our cars etc, so keep this in mind. Washroom facilities as well as cooking facilities are of the utmost importance when considering our venue, should we go forward.

Keep the ideas flowing.....

MY90SC
08-18-2003, 08:52 PM
let me just say that I would go and meet you guys just about anywhere for a bbq...
I was kinda rolling with the idea of a bbq beach day from about 2 threads ago no biggie.
People are generally kewl at these public facilities what we need is a nice big grass parking lot....
:D

Bill McNeil
08-19-2003, 02:56 AM
Ron,

I'm sure everyone appreciates your willingness to drive anywhere for a BBQ, but not everyone is as eager to drive over an hour when last year's event was local (at Greg's house in Mississauga). Just as you and I were willing to drive to Englishtown, New Jersey last month, not everyone else was. Like I said in my previous post, don't let the lack of official designation prevent you, or anyone else from getting together in large or small numbers for your gatherings.

We need a location that is relatively central, and that will attract the most club participation possible. Some people may want to just stop by for an hour or so, while others may choose to stay for the entire day. Having a local event makes this more possible, and adds a measure of flexibility to people's busy schedules.

Personally, due to my new job working weekends, I will likely be unavailable no matter where or when it is. My goal is not to accomodate any certain person or people from a certain area, but rather choose a venue that the majority of the club is pleased with, and that will allow for the most participation.

Like I said earlier, we are going to need some more interest from everyone before we can get this event moving forward again. Let me know.

MY90SC
08-19-2003, 07:16 PM
what I was referring too Bill, was my willingness to go to a local GTA location for the event if it does indeed happen. I was not trying to say that members should willingly drive the distance for the event if it were held farther away.
I agree with the localized venue given the short period of time we are dealing with. Maybe next year if a date is set now people can plan arround it and we have a whole year to gear up for it.
It's too bad becasue I missed last years event and have been regretting it since.

tbirdsc357
08-19-2003, 09:15 PM
Just me.......but I don't think there is enough interest in this event.:(

Bill McNeil
08-19-2003, 11:49 PM
It's certainly looking that way. I'll give this until Friday.

Only 7 people have responded to this thread, and we get up to 20 people out to every meet on a rolling basis between about 40 or more active members.

We need more interest before we can proceed.

shotbirdsc
08-21-2003, 01:11 PM
Not too sure if this is a dead issue but I may be able offer my place for a BBQ, lots of room for any amount of sc's that could make it. Only problem I have is a very tight schedule this month and the begining of next but I may be able to work something out for mid September I dont know what you guys are looking at for dates if your interested let me know.

location 10 minutes north of Barrie on Hwy 11.

Eric

MY90SC
08-22-2003, 07:41 AM
that sounds great Eric that is about a 2.5 hr drive for me but enjoyable for sure.
keep us posted I'm sure by mid sept. alot of peoples schedules will settle down and we can pull this event off.

thank you for the offer

Bill McNeil
08-23-2003, 12:32 AM
Eric,

I greatly appreciate the offer, on behalf of everyone in the club. Normally we name this event a "summer BBQ", but I don't see any problem with us doing something in the early fall, if you don't mind hosting it around the beginning of October?

This might be a great way to close out the season for everyone who stores their car, or doesn't drive much in the winter.

What does everyone thing of this?

lazybird4pt6
08-23-2003, 11:59 PM
Yeah, yeah, Shakira, you know the rest. Let's get some ore interest EVERYONE. By the looks of things this will be a damn cold BBQ when everything is covered in snow. PEOPLE!!! Sure, maybe it might be a PITA to drive an hour or two to get to it, but it IS only once a year.
Yes, location is important.
Yes, time and date are important.
So are VOICES.

Okay, i'll shut up now.:D

Andrew Wang
08-25-2003, 10:20 AM
I'll go as Shakira says wherever whenever.

SeanMatteson
08-25-2003, 12:33 PM
I hate to 'beat a dead horse' here, but just to refute what Ron posted earlier, I just spent the weekend at Long Point Provincial Park on Lake Erie, and the beach was absolutely glorious! The water was sparkling clean, and you had to search to see any algae or "seaweed" along the beach. Perhaps the problem that Ron mentioned is more prevalent along other stretches of the Erie shoreline, but where we were the conditions were easily comparable to beaches in the Carribean.

I know the Lake Erie shore is near a two hour drive for some of you folks out Toronto way, but so is Barrie for others in our club. I hope to have some pics downloaded soon, and I'll post them if you're interested, but I don't think we should cross Lake Erie off the list just yet. ...But that's just my opinion.

Personally, if I am available on the date of the BBQ, I'd be willing to drive to Eric's place, or whatever. The length of the drive to/from the venue will only affect how long I can stay, and might impact whether Alecia and the kids join me.

Best regards,

Sean

Ryan A Harris
08-25-2003, 12:49 PM
I think this would be great. I like the idea of driving a little distance for events. Think we all gather in the GTA, then head out toegther(in the same lane :rolleyes: ). In the GTA or not, I hope we can pull this BBQ off.

Eric, you the man, thanks.:D :D

Night-Ryder
08-25-2003, 01:00 PM
If its in October Ill see if i can make it out, i have no problem with driving to Barrie for a BBQ with the club :D
Keep us updated
Lates

lazybird4pt6
08-25-2003, 06:12 PM
I agree with Ryan. It's kinda boring going somewhere that close to home. A drive out of town (Erie, Barrie, wherever) almost gives it a vacation-type feel (just me?). A picnic in High Park just doesn't grab me as much as it would somewhere I haven't been, or at least not often. Thanks for bringing that up Ryan, I never realized that until now.:rolleyes: . Guess i'm too busy to realize that lately.

Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?

shotbirdsc
08-26-2003, 01:20 PM
Once I get back from Scotland Sept 7th I can post my schedule and see if the dates works with you guys. I have a huge front yard for some great photo shots. :cool:

Eric

V6Sprout
08-26-2003, 05:20 PM
I like Sean's idea of Long Point. :)

I can't travel too too far, TO would be my limit really as my wife doesn't like me spending to much time away with the car, and she does't dig going ot BBQ's and races, she gets bored easy. So the closer the better in my case. Toronto is not far in my case. Barrie woudl be too far for me. Hopefully if this BBQ happens I'll have my car runnign and can bring it :)

SeanMatteson
08-26-2003, 08:02 PM
I finally got around to resizing some pics from this past weekend's camping trip to Long Point. Here's one of the beach...

SeanMatteson
08-26-2003, 08:04 PM
Here's another, but it was taken only shortly before sundown, so the lighting is a little less than stellar...

Jason Wild
08-26-2003, 08:46 PM
Sean,
What no pic with hot girls this time?:D

lazybird4pt6
08-26-2003, 11:36 PM
Are we there, yet?
teeheehhe. Haa, HAHA. Sorry.

Sean, it looks beautiful. How far (time wise) is it from your place? Just curious.

SeanMatteson
08-27-2003, 01:01 AM
Long Point is about an hour to an hour and a quarter from my place. It's a nice drive south on Hwy #6 to where it ends in Port Dover, followed by a stretch along Hwy #24 west past Turkey Point, and on to Port Rowan and Long Point. I'm pretty sure the provincial park has a large day use area, but I would have to call to confirm and get further details. I figured I'd hold off on that until we know whether it's even worth considering for everyone.

Best regards,

Sean

lazybird4pt6
08-28-2003, 09:40 PM
At the very least it sounds like a nice drive. Thanks.

tbirdsc357
09-07-2003, 08:02 AM
Well, the mornings are getting cooler so there is not that much time for the "summer" BBQ......If no decision can be made in the next 2 - 3 weeks, it's not going to happen, I say take the sticky down.

SeanMatteson
09-08-2003, 09:21 AM
Oh, but those cooler temps should work nicely for a club track day!!! :D

fast Ed
09-08-2003, 09:04 PM
Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be too difficult to get everyone together for this event, this season. :(

Hopefully next year we will have a nicer summer, weather-wise, and peoples' schedules will mesh a bit better.


cheers
Ed N.

Jason Wild
09-08-2003, 10:46 PM
Maybe we should have a friday night meet out in the far west like last year?

shotbirdsc
09-17-2003, 01:03 PM
I see that this is probably dead and dead, but just in case the Barrie offer is still there I guess it may be getting too late to have it but October 19th would work for me. If it doesn't snow by then??? Even the week before would work. Let me know if there is any interest?