played with a Zo6 and made him look....

[pro street rich]

Here I am just driving home from my son's new house and this guy comes up with his shinny black ZO6 vette. Well he looks my bird over a bit and starts to do those jumpimg jabs at the gas. He is tring to see me for my reaction but he can't due to the limo tint on all my side and rear windows. So this playing goes on for about a block and I have already slowed down to get myself ready for him. The trans is already dropped into second. I time it just right and as soon as he starts to let off his last jab, I blast it to the max. He jumps back into the gas but too little too late. I get out of it and let the speed come back to more normal #'s and push the window down. He comes up along side of me and I give him that "What's the matter, you lost" look.
Well I think you could have cooked a egg on his face after that. He was so mad that he didn't even want to try again.. So all the way home I just smiled to myself knowing that there is some guy with a $50,000 vette that couldn't get past my 35th bird.
I tell you what, if you want to get picked on get a 35th bird, smoke the windows, add a "cobra R" hood and black headlight covers, and watch all the guys want to play.. what fun....Rich

[68COUGAR]

Where's the video camera when you need it?
Hell, I'da paid good money to see that one!!!!!!!!

Was that the BB SC or the V6 SC?

68COUGAR

[pro street rich]

That was with the smaller big block car, just wait. My son and I have been talking of adding more to that one just for fun...Rich

[cudaz101]

What are the chances of you doing a write up for Charging Thunder on a BB eng. swap??? I mean a start to finish article...

At some point...Sooner or later I am gonna do this to a rolling SC chassis when I find the right deal...


Cheers


Brad

[nomind]

Hell, I'd be happy if he'd tell me how much he would charge me to do this if I brought him an LX, and a running 460.

[djhawkeye3]

hey rich im thinkin about puttin a better engine and transmission in my 1992 sc would you be willing to tell me what engine i should put in there and what transmission? also how much it would cost? thanks darryl

djhawkeye32000@yahoo.com

[rplaster]

I don't know what you have done to your 35th so don't get mad at me for saying this but are you sure he was racing you. I own a 93sc 5-speed with every bolt on you can buy exept the FMIC and i love my sc. I also own a 99corvette hardtop all stock 6sd. I hate to tell you guys but it 's not even close. Maybe if i could dump about 800 pounds out of my sc it would be a close race. O.K. let me have it.

[Brandon]

Originally posted by rplaster
I don't know what you have done to your 35th so don't get mad at me for saying this but are you sure he was racing you. I own a 93sc 5-speed with every bolt on you can buy exept the FMIC and i love my sc. I also own a 99corvette hardtop all stock 6sd. I hate to tell you guys but it 's not even close. Maybe if i could dump about 800 pounds out of my sc it would be a close race. O.K. let me have it.

Read again.....BIG BLOCK CAR, not an 3.8 car.

[David Neibert]

I don't know what you have done to your 35th

For starters, it's got a 460 CID V8.

David

PS: I'll race your vette

[Mike8675309]

Here is a picture from a few months ago of the 460 big block in Rich's car.

http://members.tccoa.com/nastyv6/460/2.jpg

[rplaster]

Sorry Brandon i scrolled down to fast. I have owned SC's for almost 11 years now. I have only had the vette for a couple of months. But i would like people to know that if they think their going to go as fast as these new vettes with bolt ons their going to be dissapointed. I just don't want people to be misled. Just talk to any of the guys running 13 or lower in the quarter and they will tell you your going to have to spend 10grand or more.

[rplaster]

Back off Super Dave i saw your new time. I bet i have less in my vette than you do in your car. I think your car has had the potential to run that for a while i'm glad to see you've got the bugs worked out. O.K. i'll race you from a 135 kick. lol

[David Neibert]

O.K. i'll race you from a 135 kick. lol

You would kill me then....mine is only good to about 130 then I would have to shift into OD and the Lentech VB won't allow full throttle upshifts.

Now if we start at 25 mph that would be much funner.

David

[rplaster]

I think i'll pass on the 25 kick Dave. The way things are going i don't think it 'll be long before we see high tens for some of you guys.

[pro street rich]

Yes. I would be willing to write something on this car and the swap.
Was the guy in the vette tring, you bet he was,with the amount of rubber we both left there is no question that we were both going.
What to put in a s.c. body and how much... There is nothing hard about this swap. There is no cutting needed and everything is bolt in once you make the adaptors for the engine mounts.
How much? give me a e-mail and we can talk on this.
How big is this one, Dave, it's a 514. strocker and it has some help as well. This thing will run as fast as the other big guys on this page and then some. I have posted some time slips somewhere on here before....
now, the 302 was put into these cars, all you have to do is find a donor car and move everything over to the sc. That can't be that hard to do either...
Now for those that don't have it , here is my e-mail address.. bruhn@execpc.com and if you want to call feel free to at 414-425-4710.... Rich

[Randy N Connie]

How much money you got to run against an 30 year old,little 351 cleveland power ford.
with that pissy a$$ vet.And the ford came stock with the cleveland.It does have veteater
for licenseplates.

I will take that 135 kick.

RANDY

[NYC Russ]

Originally posted by Randy N Connie
How much money you got to run against an 30 year old,little 351 cleveland power ford.
with that pissy a$$ vet.You want to go straight line ,or some twisty.

You better hope he says straight line because very few cars are going to outhandle it :)

FWIW, new stock Z06s (on slicks) run about Daves times on juice and give or take a mph or two. Granted, they're not the world's fastest cars, and the GM interior "design" on a $50k car leaves something to be desired, but you really can't put them down as "slow and crappy-handling"...

And now we start the timer before Dennis pipes in about Gus' twin-turbo C5 that runs -4's now (its so fast, time runs backwards at the strip... Gus is now 6 years old thanks to this thing!)

{edit} ooooooooh, cheater! You changed your post while I was typing lol

[Randy N Connie]

NYC Russ. We hear that crap every year at the corvette fun fest, in Effingham ,IL
That Mid amercan corvette puts on,I don't think this guys name is gus.And yes a
pissy a$$ vet thats stock does not handle.Straight line,twistys,or a 135 kick.

randy

[Randy N Connie]

NYC RUSS . I don't think that a stock front engine vet is going to out handle
a 750+ horse Ford with out the bottle turned on.And the stroked cleveland is in the back.:D

I don't know if I would be able to stay awake long enough to get to the finish line driving
a pissy a$$ xoyz vet.

RANDY

[NYC Russ]

Originally posted by Randy N Connie
NYC Russ. We hear that crap every year at the corvette fun fest, in Effingham ,IL
That Mid amercan corvette puts on,I don't think this guys name is gus.And yes a
pissy a$$ vet thats stock does not handle.Straight line,twistys,or a 135 kick.

randy

Stock Vette doesn't handle? Well, I, along with just about every auto magazine written, disagrees with that one:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?print_page=y&section_id=3&article_id=115&page_number=1&preview=
Old 385hp version compared to C5-R

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0211_vv/index5.html
As compared to SRT10

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=39&article_id=3216&page_number=1
This is for the old 385hp version, too.

171mph top speed, .96-1.0g on the skidpad, and 405hp, *stock*? I wouldn't be so quick to write it off :)


PS:
http://search.ebaymotors.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febay motors%2Fws%2F&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=z06&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&ebaytag1=ebayreg&category0=6000&st=2&s_partnerid=2%26category3%3D6168%26siteid%3D100%26 categorymap%3D6001&BasicSearch=&from=R2&catref=C3 And it can all be yours for less than $35k:)

[NYC Russ]

Originally posted by Randy N Connie
NYC RUSS . I don't think that a stock front engine vet is going to out handle
a 750+ horse Ford with out the bottle turned on.And the cleveland is in the back.:D

RANDY

Well, yeah, if you want to race a stock Z06 with a GT40 or something (Pantera? what else has a rear mounted Ford 351?), ok, I'd buy that. But to make it fair, you ought to take on the C5-R with the GT40 which might at least stand a chance :)

[pro street rich]

Maybe my spelling is not so hot, but I know my Ford's.. Now as for the vetts, well lets say that there is some talk around here that there is this crazy guy with his Fords that likes to pick on anything that wears a "bow tie" and most of the time he wins..
We have talked before about the "Chicago Wise Guy's" and even put up a post to them. They are some bad guys, but there are no invites from them to come out and play anymore either... What can I say, Yes some of the stuff I drive should not be on the street, but that's the fun of it.....Rich... P.S. if you want to bring that vette up here to try a 135+ pass, I am sure that there is something here to make it fun......oh well got to go....Rich

[Randy N Connie]

RUSS he was blowin about runnin Fords with his vet, fair is fair..
FORD against A pissy a$$ vet.

And yes its a Pantera.

rpiaster through out the challenge.

And at 171 mph the old Ford still got a gears to shift to,Then if need be we can turn the bottle on.

randy

[Randy N Connie]

NYC RUSS: After Pro-street kicks his a$$ at UNION GROVE.

I will smoke his a$$ in those chattanooga hillbilly hills.

If he can afford both of us.


RANDY

[rplaster]

Randy 171mph + NOS = blown up! I wasn't putting down super coupes or fords, and anyone that wants to race my vette has got to beat my SC first. I made the mistake of driving a vette about 3 months ago. Their freaking awesome, the ride, the handling, the seemless acceleration. The only downside is it only seats two. I have no intentions on selling my sc i still want put a good cam and heads package on it, but i'm not going to do that untill i rebuild the motor. 127,000 and still going strong.

[Randy N Connie]

rplaster,Were you at the shootout about 4 weeks ago,with you SC.

Its more fun to come to the track for a friendly race with your SC.
Than just talk about.

Or get your wallit out ,and you arms off the chair with your vet.

You sound like one of those guy thats got a fast rice grinding crotch rockets,to.

RANDY

[rplaster]

Actually i have a Kawasaki V-Force its an ATV. I havn' t said anything mean to anyone on this thread or put down their car. I compared my sc to my vette. I had fun joking arround with Dave and enjoyed NYC Russ giving the info on vette's. Randy you got issues.

[Randy N Connie]

No I am just having fun.Talking ford on a ford board.:D I am a person that like to
race and you were talkin racin.If thats issues I have issues then.

Thats part of the way I make my income.RACIN.I am retied,But sometimes I come out and play.
You can call it issues if you like.

My wife races the SC,and I like racin vets,and my pro-stock or top fuel Harley every once in a while,
if the money is there.

I went to school with Mike Yeager.He runs MID-AMERCAN CORVETTE,So we run for money here.
I am sorry if you take that as issues.About running vets.Its friendly money racin from my school.

And I hope to race at Bonneville at the end of next year with a new 400cid twin engine harley
power stream liner.You can call it issues.I am a nitro junky that likes the adrenalin.
If it don't run 200mph+ it not worth talkin about.


RANDY

[68COUGAR]

You can build a car to run 12.99 at the strip (3.73 gears no OD), OR your can build a car that'll run 160 mph (2.73 gears + OD).

Neither should race the other (unless the bet is "burgers & fries").

Each car is purpose built!!!!!

Now if your car has 4.56 gears, runs the quarter in 10.5 @ 140 mph, & doesn't run over 6000 rpm, Then invite me to video tape THAT run for ya! Hell, I'll even put it on the net for ya, no charge!

68COUGAR

[68COUGAR]

When you were at the mn-12 Nats, did you have a C6 on the back of the BB?

68COUGAR

[68COUGAR]

And the stroked cleveland is in the back

There's only ONE car that can make THAT claim!!!!!!!!!!!!

"We Are Not Worthy", but You're invited to any race in Michigan. I love to see "Vintage" muscle cars race against late model fuel injected cars. It seperates the "myth" from the "reality", OR maybe in Your Case, the other way around!!!!!!!!!

It can Also seperate the real cars, from the wanna-be's!!!!!!!

I've "wannta-be" since the early 70's, DAMN, still can't afford it!!!!!!!

68COUGAR

[Randy N Connie]

68COUGAR A little history on the car,The guy I got it from I went to high school with.
He is a twin.There dad was a mercury dealer in Effingham,Il. There dad bought the
twin bothers,twin pantera's. for there 16th birthdayI think they were about $9000.00 each for dad new.
I bought deans car a couple years later for $5000.00 because he lost his driver
privleage.I had it for a year and sold it back.Then after he got out of college he
got married and then slit up.So I got it back.Then I split up with my wife after
2or 3 more years.Any way its been a two owner car sold about 10 time.Just depends
on who is broke at the time on who owns it.His bother still has his.I don't think either
one has been on a drag strip.But they have seen some drag racing.I am building a new
twin engine bike so .So the pantera will be back to him before long looks like.

If you want to see two Panteras they come out every year during the corvette fun fest
in Efingham.

I have drag race a couple time in miland MI.( the spelling is wrong)With the Americam motor Cycle
Racing, AMRA.At all HARLEYS drags.

RANDY

[NYC Russ]

Originally posted by Randy N Connie
68COUGAR A little history on the car,The guy I got it from I went to high school with.
He is a twin.There dad was a mercury dealer in Effingham,Il. There dad bought the
twin bothers,twin pantera's. for there 16th birthdayI think they were about $9000.00 each for dad new.
I bought deans car a couple years later for $5000.00 because he lost his driver privleage.
RANDY

Wait. you bought a Pantera for $5k then SOLD it??? Psycho :o

http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/d2/7b/14_3.JPG
http://i7.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/d0/0c/b8_1.JPG


mmmmmmmMMMMMmmmmmm...Panterrrrrrraaaaaaa... drooooool

[68COUGAR]

If you want to see two Panteras they come out every year during the corvette fun fest in Efingham. I have drag raced a couple time in milan MI. With the Americam motor Cycle
Racing, AMRA.At all HARLEYS drags.RANDY [/B]

Milan Dragway is South of Detroit.

I've been in Effingham on business. I'm a Ford-Guy, & it seemed to me that the entire tourist industry in Effingham is built on the annual Vette meet there.

I wouldn't show up at a Ferrari meet with a pinto, & I wouldn't show up at a national corvette meet...............with a pinto. The point IS, that Nobody would show up at a national Corvette meet in a Ford (ok, Fast PANTERA), if they weren't FRUCKIN' FAST!!!!!!!!!! I mean, who would INVITE that kinda challenge, ..........................if they might get beat? Nobody would do that, unless that have already been legally declared, INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehe

68COUGAR

[68COUGAR]

Pantera drooooool [/B]

Thank GAWD you didn't sucomb to the "fashionable" trend (at the time) of bolting a $6000 Lambo wing on the back. Your car still has it's original look. Does a Pantera Have a STEALTH mode?

the Old Man
"68COUGAR"

[68COUGAR]

hehehe!!!!!!!

Yep! Looks custom ordered.

But not as rare as a "COUGAR" alum. FE. "T"oil pan!

68COUGAR

[pro street rich]

Yes there was a C6 on that big block. Now there is a better one on it now. This one has been worked over a bunch to get this car amoving as they say in some parts. When I changed the engine I also did the trans as both were kinda stock when you first say the car.
now on another subject, I also am crazy enought to go play with a whole town of "bow ties". A few years ago I went to Indy for a car show with my 427 comet drag car. Well as luck would have it there was also a "Super Chevy" show going on out at the strip.. Their deal was a thursday to sunday deal and mine was a friday thru sunday show. Well while we were sitting by the pool on friday afternoon some of the guys were getting a bit on the loud side. I was quiet at first, then when the time got right I went over to the trailer and out came the comet... There was not much said at first untill someone took a good look and that was it. That night I went cruising with these guys and everywhere we went they would make room for me to park and it was great...
No matter who they are, or what they drive, when they see something that is really trick they ALL give you respect.... This I have seen time and time again... When that comet comes out there is not much said on the bad side....
I could also tell you guys about the time that I ran into the Wisconsin Corvette Club in route to a weekend at Elk Cart race track, with my Cobra, but that too is off the subject of what this was all about.....But that was one heck of a fun time[for me at least] and it was really a Kodak moment.....that some of them would not want to think about again.........Rich

[Brandon]

Is the Comet a factory A/FX car? Would love to see some pics of it!

[Randy N Connie]

We were ask to park accross the road at the, corvette fun fest,don't know why.:D

[Randy N Connie]

veteater power,Shift into 5th gear about 168mph.And I get ready to wave by
at the 06 vet,and they always wave back that this Ford is number one with there finger:p

[pro street rich]

The Comet is a 1967, 427 factory Super Stocker that was run down in the southern part of the country for one year. The car was put away for 25 years and then I got my hands on it.
There have been several articals about the car printed and it has been on a couple of tv shows, My Classic Car, Inside Drag Racing, Hemming Motor News, to name a few...The car is just as it was raced so many years ago,without being restored.... A real neet find and a great car to take to the shows as it most of the time will get some award......
Now Randy, that 351 looks a bit on the odd side itself, I don't remember that induction system to be in the stock or the extra priced add on's list when I was at Ford??? Tell us more, and same with those valve covers......Rich

[Randy N Connie]

Rich ,Diden't the Comet that you had come with glass body parts.

Every thing I have, my blind neighbor says it looks stock to him.:cool:

351 Australian block.from Ernie Elliott.
Webers for carbs.
Yates heads.
bored & stroker crank,427cid
Just a few bolt on from people that make parts for ford motor co.
It came with a 4 barrel carb but webers were a option.

And it still has air-con.Less than 5 mods for you tech in guys:D

RANDY

[MIKE 38sc]

Damn you RANDY!!!!!LOL!!!!
Now I'm really regreting turning down Fords offer to place an advanced order on a GT40........:(

[Brandon]

Gotta love those factory S/S cars! Especially unrestored examples!

Originally posted by pro street rich
The Comet is a 1967, 427 factory Super Stocker that was run down in the southern part of the country for one year. The car was put away for 25 years and then I got my hands on it.
There have been several articals about the car printed and it has been on a couple of tv shows, My Classic Car, Inside Drag Racing, Hemming Motor News, to name a few...The car is just as it was raced so many years ago,without being restored.... A real neet find and a great car to take to the shows as it most of the time will get some award......
Now Randy, that 351 looks a bit on the odd side itself, I don't remember that induction system to be in the stock or the extra priced add on's list when I was at Ford??? Tell us more, and same with those valve covers......Rich

[pro street rich]

That is the only glass part Randy. Even on the t-bolt fairlanes from 64 just the hood got the glass... But there is a lot of other things that make it RARE.... First off this bad boy hits the scale at less than 3,000 lbs with my fat butt in the seat. There is no radio,heater, sound proofing,weather stripping, or anything else that you will find in the street cars. This car is a real peice of history, and a blast to drive as well.....Rich

[Brandon]

My uncle owned a T-Bolt in the 70s. Don't I wish he still had it! I think he bought it for $1200. Try finding one today for that price. haha

[JSC]

Originally posted by MIKE 38sc
Damn you RANDY!!!!!LOL!!!!
Now I'm really regreting turning down Fords offer to place an advanced order on a GT40........:(

That had to be hard, but the $150,000 price tag helped sway the decision, still....
500 hp.
500 torque at 4500 rpm
0-60 mph in 3.7 sec.
1/4 mi. et 11.70 (motor trends estimate)
top speed 195

unfortunately,the one that hits the street may not be nearly as cool as the one in MT.

Ah, hell who needs a house anyway!

[MIKE 38sc]

The real clincher was they would'nt even name a price, that was far too open ended for my comfort.

[1BADSC]

They probably figured anyone who would consider buying one is the type of person who doesn't care how much it costs.

[Randy N Connie]

I would like to have a GT40. But $150,000.00 ,That is the price Ford company
put out,and I think they will raise that price again.And when the dealers get
there greedy hands on one they are going to jack it up some more.
Thats $150,000.00+
$1000.00 gas gusler tax
dealer add on and shipping another $15,000.00 +++
state tax $9,000.00
Plates & title $250.00
Insurance scary $10,000.00 a year

You can maybe drive one home for about $185,250.00

They are going to make the GT40 for two years.1500 of them each year.
I would think most are already sold for the first year.To collectors.
But in 10 years the sky would be the limit on the price.$500,000.00
and up.

At those prices,I would half to buy a Focus and put a lighting motor in
the back to get a new mid-engine Ford.


.:D

RANDY

[cudaz101]

You could give me some kind of an idea when I could expect to see somthing from you on that write up?

BTW....What a thread this turned into...Dig the Tera pix though...One of my all time faves...:D

Brad

[JSC]

Originally posted by Randy N Connie

At those prices,I would half to buy a Focus and put a lighting motor in
the back to get a new mid-engine For.


.:D

RANDY

Damn straight !! Motor Trend hinted in the write up of the GT40 that the motor itself will end up in a few other models as well. SVT Focus SC ! Weighs in at 2150 lbs and takes off from all traffic light sideways! LOL!