Who can tell me the real deal on these honda's with 1.6 and 1.8 vtec motors. I know they are not meant to be fast, most of them anyway. But I know quite a few people here in columbus with hatchback civics and acura gsr with these built up vtec's in them, some have turbo's, gutted interior, full exaust, built up engines. Thing is they street race and I don't really do that. So I really have no clue how fast these ricers really are. One has a real type r motor in a del sol. They always want to race me, they think my sc is real slow, they have no idea what it is. So does anyone have any experience with a descently modded vtec or any other ricer motor. Not just the all show no go, neon light, stickers and a fart can ricer.