Opinions Krown or Rust Check

[Peterdroy66]

What does everybody think?

[Turbo351]

How's about we set up a club discount with a local Krown dealer?
Ed???? I need to get my rust bucket done this year. I hear Krown is better than Rust Check. Who else wants it done?

[Peterdroy66]

For better for worse, I think I personally qualify for Fleet discount :-)

[SeanMatteson]

I need to get this done to my car, regardless of it sitting in a nice dry garage all winter this year. Although, any discount through a Krown location local to you would have to be hefty before I'd make the trip, instead of using a Krown local to me.

Regards,

Sean

[Superbird281]

Go to Krown.

[T1Bird]

Krown is garbage IMO, we had both company trucks done there, my grandfathers and my friends truck at once, and already they are rusting, its a get rich quick scheme if you ask me, do it messy, go to oil gunk check, Scott's Car Care in milton does it, and i mean he SOAKS your car in it, may smoke for a couple hrs after you pick it up, but you know its worth it.

[Jason Wild]

I think Greg will have something to say about krown. Oil is ok but it's a big mess as well water can get behind(sp) it still as well it drips all summer long.:mad:

[Paul93SC]

Both Krown and RustCheck have "reformulated" their rustproofing sprays, and drawing from past testimonials is a bit risky (IMO).

I asked this same question 2 months ago and opinions were split 50/50 as to which was better.

I was undecided myself until I saw a demonstration of these two (steel wool in oxygenated water). They both prevented rust quite nicely, but what impressed me about the Krown treatment was it's superior ability to creep (spread on its own) compared to the RustCheck formulation.

Krown charged me $109 (with a $20 discount coupon) and took a full hour.

It goes without saying either one is better than nothing. BTW, they both need annual re-applications to be really effective.

Good luck with your "choice" :p

[MercsSC]

thinking of doing the oiling instead of Krown ....My thinking is ..I want to do some work to the car.... this spring and don't want to be covered in rust proofing ...one thing about oil ..people should be aware of..if you have rust patches..oiling will eat most loose rust off leaving holes .....rust proofing will cover holding it in place ...by it's tacky nature....another good trick with oiling ....is to find sandy dirt road ..and drive up and down it after oiling the car and let it soak up the sand ...dave

[BlueThunder90]

My car has been sprayed many times over it's life and for those who have seen my car, there's not a spec of rust on it.

The previous owner did the spray every 2 years and I have done the same. I think every year is overkill. The previous owner used Krown and I used Noyzboyz as they use the exact same spray as Krown does.

For those who say it "traps water" I have a hard time getting past that. Oil is heavier than water and in turn, would dilute the water while covering the surface.

After seeing the condition of my car over it's 13 years, I took in my truck to get done last week. Sure it smoked all the way home (the guys at Noyzboyz do a very thorough job) the coating is nice and hopefully it'll prevent this Chebby from rustin' :) I got the complete job done, underbody, in doors, under hood, hatch, etc.

[Greg Coleman]

Everyone knows the test my bodyshop did on rust check and krown years ago and the results.I'm also sure by now rust check has reformulated their brew,but personnally I'd choose krown as Paul says its abbility to creep is supperior in my opinion and that is the whole key here.Most yellow and black undercoats are designed to cover and only cover bare areas on flat surfaces and do protect what it covers.BUT it does not creep into folded seems and keep creeping like the Krown formula and let me add that regular oil doesnt either as much as you might think it does.I dont believe I mentioned that years ago I did a bit of a test on regular oils put into pannels and I came up with the conclusion that tranny fluid was better than regular motor oil for creeping and long lasting effects if your budget is tight.Now Krown's oil is formulated to creep and move out any water in it's path and disperses it so it will evaporate.To make it as short as possible I take cars apart for a living meaning I drill spot welds and remove pannels from cars that are less than 3 and 4 months old that are starting to rust in certain area's like say door posts and door skins.When I take a door off and grind the folded lip so the skin splits and comes apart,inside the tightly folded lip,(were undercoat does not reach) there is rust 90% of the time even on cars 2 and 3 months old!! This is where water and salt sit and take forever to dry and eat your pannels from the inside out.Next time i do a brand new car,I'll bring out a piece of a rusted pannel to a meet so everyone can see. So the moral of the story is go with Krown in my opinion!!! There are also draw backs to this aswell.This stuff swells the rubber seals over the years and drips and drips and collects dust so in the spring you have a major clean on your hands.Also if you drive up and down a dusty road it will hold it in spots better but it will prevent it's creeping abilities!( not a good idea) All in all,the benafits way out weigh the downfalls!!:D If you have seen as many cars apart as I have with my 25 years experience you would agree.(dam I'm gettin old!)

[Superbird281]

Ditto Greg.
There's a guy in the GTAMC driving my old 1986 LTD. I took it to Krown for the first 11 years of its life. It later developed some rust spots on fender and door edges, but the engine bay, body, and trunk were perfect. He's still driving it and it looks clean.
The one-time yellow or black coatings are absolutely useless. I once parted out a 1990 Thunderbird that had that yellow coating crap, and the car body had rust spots you could push your finger through.
The creepage that Greg talks about is absolutely essential. If it doesn't drip, it doesn't work.

[Jason Wild]

Greg
I for got to ask what do you think of zebart(sp) My car has been done all along from when it was new should I go back or go to krown.

[Greg Coleman]

I had the Ziebart package done to my car when it was brand new wich I think is a good idea for a new car because it coats the brand new surfaces on the car wich does protect all the crossmembers and flat surfaces of the vehicle and will stay for many years.But the places it doesn't get is in the folded seems and places where flat surfaces are welded to one another such as the bottom of the quarter pannels are welded to the rockers.No matter what your never going to oil one hundred percent of the car even if you try.Jason I dont think it would hurt to keep taking it to ziebart but even still I would personally have the oil done anyhow.Krown actually will tell you the best time to have your car done is in the spring.I personally disagree and think the beginning of November is perfect!And if your real anul in the spring aswell.I know if I go over to Krown on Mavis I can get it done for $80 to $90 cash.Come to think of it I better take my olds and my truck over and get them done:eek: :D

[Greg Coleman]

I'm not up to date on the programs that are offered out there but Krown I do know about and I like it. Jason what is the ziebart (sp) program? Does it include oil like Krowns?:D

[Jason Wild]

Greg,
I'm not sure because I have never gone since the car has been done for 12 years and I dont let it on the road in the winter so it see no salt. I plan to clean the little spots of rust that started over the winter and in the spring I guess I will do it. My dad wants his truck done I will see what krown in Richmond Hill wants.

I did the rust check at home thing one time on a car. That was one HELL of a bad idea if anything it made the car rust faster so I would say stay away.

[Kirk Bryan]

I have used Krown in the past, but was thinking of trying rust check this year, but I'm not sure.

BTW
Oil is NOT heavier than water, it is lighter. That's why it floats when 'mixed' together.