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Shockwave
02-12-2004, 03:49 AM
I got in on the group buy on the 03 Cobra wheels. They arrived today.

http://webpages.charter.net/skywarp/cobra4.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/skywarp/cobra.jpg

These are the polished. Anybody that has uncleared polished wheels e-mail me, and let me know what I am in for. I have been given advice to have them cleared, but was wondering if anybody with polished wheels has any advise to give on the issue.

Also, they are Dante Designs, 36mm offset 17 x 9s, custom drilled to the 4.25 bolt pattern. Looking to go 255/45/17 and could use advise on tire brands and models that are good for the money.

Thanks
Jerry

Birdman93
02-12-2004, 07:03 AM
IMHO-find a shop that can powdercoat clear-the spray clear yellows and peels bad.

A good powdercoat clear will save you time and frustration-especially with a sweet set of wheels like those!

SC UL8R1990
02-12-2004, 08:12 AM
those are **** bad! any pics of them on a tbird yet? If not....bolt those suckers on and take some pics!!!

they look real nice, just wonder what theyll look like on a birdy

fast Ed
02-12-2004, 08:24 AM
Glad to see I maybe started a trend away from Cobra R wheels last fall when I posted the pics of my car with genuine 03 Cobra wheels. ;) :D


cheers,
Ed Nicholson
SCCoO

joenintiesc
02-12-2004, 08:28 AM
I've heard really good things about Zoop Seal, though it's around $130 for the kit. Protects polished aluminum. Do an internet search for more info.

Killer SC
02-12-2004, 05:42 PM
put em on your car!!! and post some pics!!!!!

Shockwave
02-12-2004, 06:14 PM
No tires!!!!!!!!

I thought it was going to take three weeks to get them. Also, I drive the car everyday and threre is still a chance for snow on the roads. Snow and wide tires don't mix. I will test fit a wheel this weekend to make sure everything is ok. Then I will order some tires.

Jerry

Killer SC
02-12-2004, 07:48 PM
ok well when you do....I'm sure you'll want to show em off

T-bird4vr
02-12-2004, 09:41 PM
Those look really nice. I wish I would have gotten on that buy.
Enjoy

mcate
02-12-2004, 10:03 PM
Those wheels do look sharp! I wasn't aware that anyone made those in our bolt pattern yet. As for tires, I just bought BFG T/A G-Force KDW's in 255/45-17. My car is lowered, & that size is perfect. I'm very happy with the tires, both in look & handling.

XxSlowpokexX
02-12-2004, 10:13 PM
I went fer the Kumhos at 255/50/17..look and fit great

Thomas A
02-12-2004, 10:14 PM
I think a very light mettalic grey powder coat would look awesome on those wheels!

Thomas

SCYALTR
02-13-2004, 01:39 AM
Hey Man,
Nice looking wheels.
Should look even better when you wrap those up and bolt them on.
Laterz,
D Rainer

Birdman93
02-13-2004, 05:56 AM
OK-I'm having trouble understanding that one-"a light grey metallic powdercoat" on polished rims??

Shockwave
03-04-2004, 02:32 AM
PJ (aka Thunder Flee) asked me over to the garage to test fit one of my 03 cobra wheels.

I brought one over, and we put the car on the lift. Evidently the offset is different from year to year on SCs. The 03 cobra wheel is a good inch from the spindle and sticks way out from the fender. PJ has chrome cobra Rs 17 x 9 on his 95 SC, and even with a 1/4" spacer his wheels don't stick out this bad.

We then mounted the 03 cobra wheel on his 95 and it doesn't need a spacer. there was plenty of room from the spindle, at least a good 1/4". The 03 wheel on the 95 sticks out the fender about the same as his Cobra Rs with a spacer. I never thought about taking my camera with me or there would be some pics posted on this thread. Maybe this weekend I will take some pics to show the offset.

So it looks like the 03 wheel offset would work about perfect on a 93 up spindle so no spavcer would be needed. I thought I read on this board that the early spindle is better for 9 inch wheels?


Jerry

SC UL8R1990
03-04-2004, 02:42 AM
i was on tccoa and got a sneak peak of them on a tbizzle. sorry not an sc.

http://tbirdtommy.250free.com/Cobra.JPG

SC UL8R1990
03-04-2004, 02:53 AM
oh and heres a lowering kit and gfx supplied by me and MS Paint

i like the way they look, is there silver ones too?
http://www.wd-co.com/pictures/albums/1078382885/2.jpg

Doug Franklin
03-04-2004, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by T-bird4vr
Those look really nice. I wish I would have gotten on that buy.
Enjoy

cudaz101 will now sell a set of the wheels at the group buy rate now that they are made. He can also get other styles. I just don't care for the pmimp wheels out there or Cobra R. Saw Eds pics and that was it for me.

Look in GP forum. Also cudaz101 has solid chrome lugnuts and lock. I ordered 20 with no locks. He is also testing some center rings. His Dad owns a wheel store or something.

Doug

Doug Franklin
03-04-2004, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Shockwave
PJ I brought one over, and we put the car on the lift. Evidently the offset is different from year to year on SCs. The 03 cobra wheel is a good inch from the spindle and sticks way out from the fender. PJ has chrome cobra Rs 17 x 9 on his 95 SC, and even with a 1/4" spacer his wheels don't stick out this bad.

So it looks like the 03 wheel offset would work about perfect on a 93 up spindle so no spavcer would be needed. I thought I read on this board that the early spindle is better for 9 inch wheels?


Jerry

Thanks for posting Jerry. I may get some +36 offsets now for an older SC I am running with small brakes.

Here is a response I got from one of our Fordbastard Club SHO owners who road races 2 SHOs. But he runs different for the street.
_________________

I've been using the Kumho Victoracers V700 for few years. They stick
good til they're showing cords. They sucked last time at MSR, cause it
was only 40 that day. Hard to say how many miles I get from them.
They have a new V710 coming out soon or it might already be out. Maybe
their website has some info. www.kumhotireusa.com
Hooisers are fast but don't last long and if you go off track you'll
likely have a blow out cause their carcass is real thin. Makes for a
lite tire for less unsprung weight.
Hankook is a new tire, out about a year, the Z211.
www.hankooktireusa.com

Sergio
________________

So anymore input on protecting the polished wheels? Jerry I assume you are concerned about brake dust and rubber sticking? I should have got chrome because when on the track they get hot and stuff really sticks and hard to remove and clean when things cool.

Shockwave
03-06-2004, 04:56 AM
I don't think you undersood my post, and that was my fault. I think the offset is not enough for 89 and 90 cars. 91 and up have a different hub, and I don't know what that would do to help. I know that 93up have the different spindle and can use less offset and these would work great on those cars.

I don't like the way the 03 wheel sticks out on my 89. Comparing the 03 wheel mounted on a 95 SC and then on my 89 SC, the wheel sticks out a good 3/4"more on my 89. It looks bad to me.

I measured 6 5/16" backspace on the 03 wheel, and I calculate that to be about 34.5mm psoitve offset. I could easily use 18mm more positive offset on my 89. Whoever came up with the offset for these wheels used the 93 up spindle. I don't have a problem with that beacuse you wont need a spacer for those cars. PJ with the 95SC has a set of chrome Cobra Rs 17x9 and has to use a 1/4" spacer to clear the spindle. I don't know who made his cobra R's, but they were probably designed for the early cars. I didn't get a chance to measure his backspace, but the 03 wheels are a good 1/4" away from his spindle. Unfortunetly, nobody test fit the 03 wheel on a 89SC or checked to see if they needed a different offset. The 03 Wheel is a good inch from the spindle on my 89 SC.

I had PJ and his brother Chris look at it, and we all agreed it didn't look very good sticking out that far. My only recourse is to sell the wheels, or change spindles, hubs, rotors, and calipers to the 93 design. I don't think I am prepared for all that. 03 wheels are on hold for now.

Jerry

Doug Franklin
03-06-2004, 05:14 AM
Good info. Thanks again.

fast Ed
03-06-2004, 11:27 AM
Jerry, the wheel fitment problem you're running into sounds strange. The 93-up spindles should give the same mounting position for the hub and brakes as the 89 - 92. Stock SC wheels are all the same offset, and there are a bunch of people in SCCoA who have 17x9 wheels of other varieties with the offset at around +35 or +36, and they don't stick out on the front like what you're getting.

Please don't take this the wrong way, not saying you're a twit who can't bolt wheels on his car properly. ;) I'm curious as to why your car is like that !! And I can't think of any answers right now as to why it might be that way. :confused:


cheers,
Ed Nicholson
SCCoO

driveway
03-06-2004, 05:34 PM
those are gonna look killer! id like to find some 03 maurauder wheels,wonder if they would fit right?

fast Ed
03-06-2004, 05:49 PM
Marauder wheels are 18x8", with +50 offset ... approx. 6.5" of rear spacing. So they would need spacers to work on an MN-12 T-Bird / Cougar, approx. 3/4" to 1", besides the bolt pattern conversion. Or, you could buy a set of 1" thick aluminum 5 on 4.25" to 5 on 4.5" wheel adapters, and away you go.

cheers,
Ed N.

Shockwave
03-06-2004, 07:06 PM
Ok let's take that marauder rim.

Let's say it's a 8" wheel with a total width of 9"

9"=228.6mm

228.6 / 2 = 114.3 mm (center of the wheel)

6.5" backspace = 165.1mm

165.1 - 114.3mm = 50.8mm positve offset.


Dante 03 Cobra rim

9" wheel width with a total width of 10 1/8"

10 1/8" = 257.1mm

257.1 / 2 = 128.5mm (center of wheel)

6.31" backspace = 160.27mm

160.27 - 128.5mm = 31.77mm positive offset


These numbers are pretty close give or take a 1/16th. I'm writing this from work. I will double check the total width of the rim when I get home as I had calculated 33 or 34mm before. I used a metal ruler for the backspacing so I know that's accurate. The width I used a metal tape measure which is not as accurate.


Jerry

Bill McNeil
03-07-2004, 05:56 PM
Ed,

(posted in tech forum also)

How would I fair with a +28mm offset wheel (17x9).

Would I need to have the front wheels machined?

Thanks!

cudaz101
03-08-2004, 04:48 AM
WOW....WELL....I don't make it through the non-tech much...

Jerry,
I am miffed that this is the first I find out about a problem with your wheels....All ya gotta do is let me know and I will see what I can do about it...Something can more than likley be done at no cost to you if you run it by me...

I have 90 & 94 SC's....However I have never put any wheels up to my 90SC, cuz I plan on selling it...I will put my Bulletts up to my 90SC and see what you are talking about Jerry. If I find what you describe then I will ask Dante to make another spec wheel for the early Tbirds. Regardless we need to do something about yours.

All of the Dante Design Replicas for the Tbird/MarkVIII are supposed to be +36MM offset...Any deviation from that with my customers "Who are Tbird only anyways" is a problem and I need to know about it...I doubt it would be the first time they made a mistake or had to make changes to a product.

Brad

92bird
03-09-2004, 02:42 AM
Must be nice, I was on on the same GB for those wheels, but I don't have mine yet.. I guess it takes a really long time to chrome plate wheels.. :rolleyes:

Shockwave
03-09-2004, 04:10 AM
Well let me say that Brad has been ultra nice and is more than willing to stand behind his products. He is going to look into this and even try his 17 x 9 bullett wheels on his 90 SC to test fit them. Brad and Jim at Storey's Tire seem to be great people.

I got a chance to get some pics of the wheel mounted on my 89 SC.

03 Cobra wheel on my 89 SC (http://s93260528.onlinehome.us/03cobra.htm)

Let me know what you guys think.

Jerry

fast Ed
03-09-2004, 09:51 AM
Until you get the weight of the car down on the suspension, you're not going to know the proper fit.

cheers,
Ed N.

92bird
03-09-2004, 12:12 PM
Brad IS a good guy, no problems at all with him, he's been very quick to respond and very helpful at correcting some minor problems so far. At this point it is out of his hands with the wheels, so no qualms with Brad or his dad at all. I should have made that clear!