Group Buy on new pulley kit!

[joenintiesc]

Get ready for car show season with this dress up (and
hp saving) stock size aluminum pulley kit from SCI !
www.supercoupeinnovations.com

The following is the SCI description of the kit:

This kit includes the following pulleys:
Crank shaft
Water pump
Alternator

This is the only stock diameter kit available for the
SC out there. The weight of the stock steel crank,
water pump and alternator pulley is a total of 8-3/4
pounds. Whereas the 3 SCI pulleys weigh in at only
5.02 pounds.!!! That’s a savings of over 3-1/2 pounds
of rotating mass.

The pulleys are clear anodized to help protect against
the elements and prevent belt wear. The crank pulley
is zero balanced, to bolt onto your car right out of
the box. The crank pulley also has the off center hole
mark with the letters SCI engraved above it. This will
help you line up the off center hole without guessing.


http://www.supercoupeinnovations.com/bluestock.JPG

Ten people with paid orders would qualify for a
reduced price of $260. This would be a savings of $25 over the regular price. Shipping would be $25 per order.

Post here if you are serious about getting in on this GP. First we will need a list of 10 people who intend to buy and will actually go through with forking over the money. :)

If we can get ten people interested by 3/17/04, payments can then start being submitted via paypal, (the email address on the site will access the SCI PayPal account) certified cheques and money orders.

I will update with names below:

Name List :

1. Joe Brauner (1 set)
2. Doug Franklin (1 set)
3. Josh Brianas (1 set)
4. Flip (1 set)
5. Victor Malvar (1 set)
6. kamakazie_1/ RJ (1 set)
7. Bryan/ SuperChicken89 (1 set)
8. Rich Thompson (1 set)
9. minbe (1 set)
10. Douglas Walker (1 set)

[Doug Franklin]

I am interested in one set maybe more. I may also want just the crank pulley to go with my other BHJs.

Doug

[joenintiesc]

Although there has been some interest in the crank pulley by itself, right now Ryan of SCI is only offering the set. In the future he may just sell the crank pulley alone, but for now he doesn't want to break up the set of three...

Doug, I will add you name to the list, post back if for some reason you change your mind or are unable to follow through.

[Doug Franklin]

One set for sure. When and how do I pay?

[joenintiesc]

If we can get ten people interested by 3/17/04, payments can then start being submitted via paypal, (the email address on the site will access the SCI PayPal account) certified cheques and money orders.

[Brianas]

thats the same size as stock alt. pulley exact?

I would be interested if so

no master card? how bout business check?

who wants my polished march pulleys(POS)
less than a year--cost me an arm and a leg!

thanks
Josh

[Ryan A Harris]

Yes the alt pulley is the same diameter. Paypal can let you use your credit card. As stated above, those are the only forms of payments I would accept.


joenintiesc, thank you for your time to set this up. I'll do my best to keep an eye out for questions that I can answer.

Doug, in the future I may offer the crank only in the stock size, it seems to be an option I must look at.

[Brianas]

the jack shaft pulley that you sell

is that also the same as stock size?

will it work fine with a 5 % blower pulley?

and if so--can it be included with the rest of the pulley set?

thanks Josh

[joenintiesc]

The js pulley is the same size as stock, only lighter. I'm using it now with a 5% blower pulley with no problems.

The group buy is for the pulley set as described. When you say "can it be included...?", if you mean can you run all four pullies together on your engine plus a 5%, the answer is yes.

[Brianas]

thanks for the reply

what will the total price be for the set of 4 pulleys and
a rough estimate on shipping
whats the time frame? within a month?

thanks Josh

[Flip]

Question? How do these compare to the SPC pulley set? Is it just the finish? Looking to buy just trying to find out the facts, Thanks, Flip

[joenintiesc]

This is the only stock diameter kit available for the SC out there

When you say "SPC pulley set", are you really referring to the SCP pulley set?

If so, that set is an "underdrive" pully set. The water pump and alternator pullies are actually larger than the stock size in an underdrive pulley, and turn the water pump and alt. slower than a stock pulley, thus freeing up a small amount of hp. Some people do not like the idea of underdriving, or slowing down, the alternator and water pump.

The pullies in this group buy, though not underdrive, are still lighter than the stock pullies, which should still free up a small amount of hp as well.

[Flip]

10-4 That was a typo on my part, I understand what you mean about the diff. Thanks, Flip

[kamakazie_1]

Hey Flip, Dan and Bryan and JJ and I bought the SCI jackshaft pulley a while back... I'm sure Bryan got his on, really nice piece of work, I'm ordering the rest of the SCI pulleys for my 95 along with the hartland tensioner pulleys and the two piece PS pulley set...

RJ

[joenintiesc]

I'm ordering the rest of the SCI pulleys for my 95

Do you want me to add your name to the list?

[SuperChicken89]

Subscribing to the thread. I am considering the purchase of these but not ready to commit 100% right at this moment.

Flip... I do have the SCI JS pulley on my car. Very nice workmanship on the part and would highly recommend it to anyone considering one.

Bryan

[Flip]

Add my name on the list, wished I gotten on the list for the JS Pully. Thanks,
Flip

[victor malvar]

Hi Joe, I am also interested in the pulley set. This will go well with my new Projet car. Count me in. The shipping seems a little high for a such light weight item. I am still in! Is the insurance included? This is something to think about... If it gets lost some people would be upset.This fee also covers the cost of shipping it. It should be included in the price. It's very inexpensive usually o.60 per $100.00 dollars. That is nothing compared to the price of the pulleys. If they are not included in the price,I would like to request insurance on mine. A tracking number would also be real beneficial to all.We insure everything we ship at our cost. It saves headaches. Just trying to cover all the bases. Good Work! Victor & Diane
www.spinningwheels-sc.com

[joenintiesc]

Please keep in mind that these are shipping from Canada. I will check with Ryan on the shipping insurance and get back to everyone.

5 more to go and we all save $25! :)

[Ryan A Harris]

Yes, insurnace is covered in the cost of the shipping and handling. I have to pay a little more, because I have to ship from Canada. A tracking number can also be given to anyone who would like one. It takes between 7-10 business days for delivery. I have only had trouble when sending to Hawaii, that took about 2 months, Canada post says that was normal for that shippment(yeah right).

Brianas, time frame for the shipping will ASAP. once we have the names, payment, I'll ship rigth away. I can ship the J/S along with the other pullies. The shipping would only be a small amount more, because the box is heavier.

Thanks to all those who have taken out the time say some nice words about my pullies.

[kamakazie_1]

This JS pulley is kick butt workmanship Ryan, good job dude!!

Yea Joe, go ahead and put me on the list too...

RJ

[victor malvar]

So I may be in for three I'm trying to help two SC customers. I told them I'm not selling them. I told them to go to the Group buy but they replied they are not paid up. They are good paying customers of ours. I will get them to place their orders. This is going well! Thanks for the answere Ryan! I am just being the devils advocate, so you do not encouter problems later! I 'm not being negative. I am also interested in the jack shaft pulley and a 5% Pulley. I am trying to buy 10 or twenty to have in stock! Joe I will speak to you tomorrow Found out some other info!

Victor and Diane
Spinning!

[Flip]

Joe,

I am also interested in the jack shaft pulley and a 5% Pulley along with three pulleys that this group buy is for. Will just need to get a price form you for the other. Thanks,Flip

[joenintiesc]

Flip,

I don't think Ryan sells a 5% blower pulley at this time. In the near future he will be selling a 5% js pulley (which would be the equivalent of a 5% blower pulley), and a 10% blower pulley, but I don't believe they are available yet.

If you purchased the js pulley at the same time, the savings would be in the $5-10 range on shipping on the js pulley.

[Flip]

Yea, your right he doesn’t sell a 5% pulley, thought he did. I already have a 5% pulley, but wanted one of his to match the other pulleys. I’ll just order the JS pulley with the other set. Thanks for the info.

[SuperChicken89]

Put me on the list :D

Now all I'll need is the PS pump pulley.

Bryan

[turbospeed]

can i get the alt pulley only i already have ASP kit with the aluminium crank pulley and a march WP UD but the asp alt pulley is heaveir than stock , and slow down the alt wayy too much.

[joenintiesc]

Right now SCI is not selling these pullies seperately. They are only being sold as a set.

[Ryan A Harris]

Is 7 the current count? I have 2 more threw my eamil that are ready to buy. I'll try to get them to post here.

Thanks for everyones time.

[joenintiesc]

7 is current by my count. 2 more would be 9, so a week to go to get one more order in!

Ryan, once we get 10 confirmed orders, how long will people have to submit payment to you?

Thanks,
Joe

[Rich Thomson]

Ryan already has me on the list:)

What type of aluminum is the pulley made from. What about different colors? Red??? or Black???

[joenintiesc]

The pulleys are clear anodized to help protect against the elements and prevent belt wear.

Rich I will add your name to the list in the first post. Hopefully Ryan will chime in with the type of aluminum, if not I'll e-mail him.

Thanks,
Joe

[turbospeed]

do you have a comparison betwen March, stock and SCI pulleys or the weigth of each pulley?

yes theres a comparison of the total but i need one of each pulley , to see if its worth changin from my ASP/March combo to the SCI combo.

btw this works with the BHJ balancer rigth?

[joenintiesc]

If "mar" means "March", I don't know the weights of their pullies. The weight differences between stock and SCI was given in the very first post.

[minbe]

I'm in. Let me know when you are going to order.
minbe

[Bill McNeil]

How much does the ASP set weigh in comparison?

[Douglas Walker]

Put me on the list. Im IN.
Doug

[joenintiesc]

Bill, I don't have the ASP weights available to post a comparison.

Well, we have 10 people signed up! :)

I'm waiting to hear back from Ryan to determine if 10 people is the limit, or if the limit is however many people sign up by the deadline. I (or Ryan) will keep you posted!

[Ryan A Harris]

Originally posted by joenintiesc
Ten people with paid orders would qualify for a
reduced price of $260. This would be a savings of $25 over the regular price. Shipping would be $25 per order.

Name List :

1. Joe Brauner (1 set)
2. Doug Franklin (1 set)
3. Josh Brianas (1 set)
4. Flip (1 set)
5. Victor Malvar (1 set)
6. kamakazie_1/ RJ (1 set)
7. Bryan/ SuperChicken89 (1 set)
8. Rich Thompson (1 set)
9. minbe (1 set)
10. Douglas Walker (1 set)

Ok, the aluminum is 6061 T6. Colours are not option. Just the clear annodize. I have found out that if I do use any colours, they will not match the reds or blues that are out there, unless they all are done at the same place. I do have a full list of comparisions weights at home(I'm on lunch at work right now). I can list them for you guys, no trouble. I don't have any dyno #'s on this set as of yet, I do plan on that along with the underdrives. I would like for the gusy to send payments, then I can ship out. Also to make things easier on me for time, can you guys email your shipping addresses. This way I can pre-pack everything, and ship all 10 out on the same day. Would that be good fro everyone?

[kamakazie_1]

Hey Ryan, which address do we do the paypal to you on, I've got the "harrisar account that I sent you already in my paypal for the Jackshaft a couple of month back.. The SCI website has a different one..

RJ

[Flip]

Ready to send the Paypal, confirm the e-mail address.

Thanks for the group buy,
Flip

[Ryan A Harris]

The super coupe innovations email please, I have deleted that ohter address. I also missed a qusetion posted above. Yes these will work the BHJ harmaonic balancers, along with the stock units from FORD.

The following are the weight comparisions. Now please notice that the ASP & MARCH sets are a underdrive kit, and the crank is quit alot smaller than the stock diameter pulley. The other sets are not fully CNC machined from billet aluminum.

ASP:
(Aluminum)Crank 2.80 Pounds
(steel)Water Pump 2.15 Pounds
(Steel)Alternator .090 Pounds

MARCH:
Crank 3.25 Pounds
Water Pump 1.15 Pounds
Alternator 0.45 pounds

Stock:
Crank 6.50 Pounds
Water Pump 1.70 Pounds
Alternator .60 Pounds

Super Coupe Innovations:
Stock Crank 3.95 Pounds
Water Pump 1.05 Pounds
Alternator .20 Pounds


Hope that helps.

[minbe]

Ready to send payment. Is a P.O. box OK? Also is insurance included in the shipping price?
Thanks
minbe

[joenintiesc]

From Ryan's post on page 2:

Yes, insurnace is covered in the cost of the shipping and handling.

[kamakazie_1]

Hey Ryan, payment is sent.. You should see it in your paypal account already... Thanks for the GP..

RJ

[Flip]

Ryan,

Paypal sent, thanks for the group buy..

Flip

[Brianas]

whats my total ?
and what paypal address?
thanks
Josh Brianas

[minbe]

OK, Paypal set. Can't wait
minbe

[Douglas Walker]

Paid! :D

[Ryan A Harris]

Ok guys I have 6 payments as of righ tnow. But I can't say who they are, because I'm not sure whos who. I have your real names, then I don't who that is for your board name. If you guys could send me your real names along with your board names, I can update as they are shipped out and paid up. This way you guys can get on who hasn't paid and is holding the pullies from being shipped out.

Thanks to everyone who chose SCI, your time and effort is much appreciated.

[kamakazie_1]

Shoot Ryan, mine should have been easy (email address same as the paypal account)!!

Kamakazie_1 / RJ / Richard Jones......:D

RJ

[Ryan A Harris]

Ok, heres who has send me payments. I hope its ok to use your real names on this.

1.Joe Brauner/joenintiesc
2.Richard Jones/kamakazie
3.Bryan Kaeser/superchicken89
4.Douglas Walker
5.Michael Smith/
6.Flip
7.Rich Thompson's is sending via mail


We are awaiting 3 more to have them shipped out.

[Doug Franklin]

Sent paypal for one set to account:supercoupeinnovations@sympatico.ca
Hope that is the correct account.
Doug Franklin

[SuperChicken89]

The following is a list of who committed to the group purchase and their status.
As of this evening we still need the payments from Doug Franklin, Josh Brianas, and Victor Malvar.
Lets get this paid so Ryan can ship them early this week.

Name... Forum Id... Status

1. Joe Brauner (joenintiesc) Paid
2. Doug Franklin (Doug Franklin)
3. Josh Brianas (Brianas)
4. Flip Tetlow (Flip) Paid
5. Victor Malvar (Victor Malvar)
6. Richard Jones (kamakazie_1) Paid
7. Bryan Kaeser (SuperChicken89) Paid
8. Rich Thompson (Rich Thompson) Paid via mail
9. Michael Smith (minbe) Paid
10. Douglas Walker (Douglas Walker) Paid


Ten people with paid orders would qualify for a reduced price of $260. This would be a savings of $25 over the regular price. Shipping would be $25 per order.
Josh… The total is $285 including shipping. The paypal address is supercoupeinnovations@sympatico.ca You must have a paypal account set up to be able to use this service. If you don’t have an account established go here to open one. Paypal (http://www.paypal.com )



Bryan

[Doug Franklin]

Dear Doug Franklin,

This email confirms that you sent $285.00 USD to
supercoupeinnovations@sympatico.ca.

[Brianas]

sorry for hold up guys
but SCI email address listed at paypal does not accept
credit card payments
Any one else have this problem?
Josh

[joenintiesc]

Are you using this address to submit payment via PayPal?

supercoupeinnovations@sympatico.ca

[Brianas]

yes that is the address Im using at paypal-
it just pops up a note when I get to the payment page
saying that address does not accept CC
Either I pay with a credit card as originally agreed or
Ill send a business check

[Doug Franklin]

I will verify. Would prefer CC myself, direct to you guys. But OK I paid the other way with pp.

[kamakazie_1]

Brianan, mine is set up with the CC and it went ok, that's the way I pay everything...

RJ

[joenintiesc]

me too...

[SuperChicken89]

Mine is also set up for credit card payment. Had no problem what so ever.

Has Victor paid up yet? I think he is the only one that has not responded with payment or at least attempted to pay.

Bryan

[Brianas]

I will try paypal again with my CC
I did email Ryan--but no response yet
Josh

[joenintiesc]

I emailed Victor Sunday to let him know. I know he suffered a back injury over the weekend so it may be keeping him from sitting at his computer for a few days.

Victor is a stand-up guy and I'm sure as soon as he is able he will get the payment submitted.

[Brianas]

I believe Ryan at SCI needs to adjust his settings- in the profile tab section of his paypal account
He likely has it set to not accept CC payments from all people
Josh

[boosted89SC]

Can I still get in on the GP? Im willing to send funds ASAP, Thanks

[Ryan A Harris]

1. Joe Brauner (joenintiesc)-Paid
2. Doug Franklin (Doug Franklin)-Paid
3. Josh Brianas (Brianas)
4. Flip Tetlow (Flip)-Paid
5. Victor Malvar (Victor Malvar)-Paid(owes 25, didn't send the correct amount)
6. Richard Jones (kamakazie_1)-Paid
7. Bryan Kaeser (SuperChicken89)-Paid
8. Rich Thompson (Rich Thompson)-Paid(owes 20, mailing)
9. Michael Smith (minbe)-Paid
10. Douglas Walker (Douglas Walker)-Paid


That leaves us with Josh left, but he is having trouble with my PayPal account. I have looked at my settings, and all is fine, I can accept any of the CC's that paypal will let you use. I know that guys have asked about the eamil address, its supercoupeinnovations@sympatico.ca That will access my PayPal account. If that still fails Josh, yes I will accecpt a certified cheque or money order. If thtis is the case, I will ship out to those who have paid up and then I'll ship Josh's out seperately. I'm sorry this had caused some confusion.

With what I have here, I'll be shipping out on Tuesday March 16th. So that will be 7-10 business day to get you guys. its too late for me to catch Mondays shipping time.


boosted89SC, I'm sorry, but this was limitied to 10 guys. If you wish to ask me any further questions, please email me.

Thanks again to all of those who have purchased on this group buy.

[SuperChicken89]

Thanks Ryan! I can't wait to install these to reduce some more rotating mass on my engine.
Do you have any plans on making a lightweight power steering pump pulley? The only one I know of is the Heartland one. I'm a little hesitant purchasing theirs because of the quality issues with their tensioner pulleys. Your products are top quality and would buy one in a heartbeat!

Bryan

[joenintiesc]

What are the quality issues witht the Heartland tensioner pullies?

[SuperChicken89]

It was like they forgot to finish them. The face of them had rough machining marks and the front/back edges had the gouges. These gouges almost looked like the saw cuts where each had been separated from the bar stock. Had to put them in a lathe to refinish the face of the pulleys. Definitely not show quality. I don't know if anyone else had issues like this with theirs. Nowhere near the quality of SCI's products.

Bryan

[Ryan A Harris]

They're on there way. I have shipped all but Victor's and Josh's. I'll be in email contact with those 2 to pass along their details.

SuperChicken89, I don't have any palns on making a P/S pulley. I have seen what you are talking about on those pullies. I local memeber had one at meet, and I was able to sneak a look. I told him I would have been fired if I made that at my shop. I also would thank you for the kind words, comments like that make it worth while. Thanks for taking your time to say that.

Thanks guys for taking part in the group buy.

[minbe]

Are these going Fedex?
Mike

[Ryan A Harris]

No I do not use FEDEX. They are hassels for me at this end, coming from Canada. I use Canada post.

[Douglas Walker]

I have to say these are the best looking pullies I've seen. U need to have them in hand to appreciate the quality. Thanks Ryan

Doug

[victor malvar]

:confused: :D Hi Ryan, I just sent you an email, Also thanks Joe for stand up guy nice words. I have been laying down though. Yes I was a little late on the shipping amount. I am out of bed for a few hrs. My brother is helping get everything taken care of. I still have to wear a brace since my fall off the porch. Spinningwheels is spinning again at full force with some nice specials to boot. I have communicated with Ryan and I also think that he will be very succesfull with all of his pulleys.We are looking forward to buying some more. Our new projet SC will get started soon. We are shooting for 400 HP and Ryans Pulleys will cetainlly help achieve that goal .All our best to all of all our friends! Sorry if our emails have been slowly coming. They will all be answered. Cheers everyone! SC ya all... We also missed the Fla. meet, but will surely make the next one God willing.

[kamakazie_1]

Nice pulleys Ryan, just got mine!! Good work dude :D :D :cool:

[Rich Thomson]

I got my SCI pulley kit today but the alt pulley did not have the same backspacing as the stock. The picture is below. Others please check your Alt pulley backspacing. It is very easy to see if the two match. My car is a 1994. Please post your results here. I have spoken to Ryan already and he wanted to get feedback on the ALT pulley differences.

I checked my belt alignment with the stock ALT pulley and it is correct. Since the Alt has a 1993 part number maybe pre 1993 Alt had a different pulley. Since the pulley does not have a part number we have to compare the dimentions.

Rich

http://www.mn12performance.com/images/alt-stock-sci.JPG

[Doug Franklin]

Got mine today and alt looks like yours, short. Have not pulled a stock pulley. I have a 90 engine out. Is there a diference in yrs on alt pulley? I have a 95 and 91, the rest are 89-90.

[kamakazie_1]

Hey Rich, I'll look when I go home for lunch, I didn't see this till to late to check.. I've got a 95 Alt. off the car and the pulley is off of it. I've got a 90 Alt. on my 95 right now and that's what I'd intended to use these new pulleys on.. I hope this works out..

Ryan, you want to weigh in on this conversation??

RJ

[Ryan A Harris]

I talked with Rich about this last night. I do need to fix this for anyone who has the 94-95's. My car is a 95, I have no trouble with the alt. pulley at all. I guess before I had purchased my car, the alt. had been changed. I have had alt troubles this winter and I'm on my 3rd one, due to troubles with the electrical system. All the pulleys have fit on with no trouble, so I think that the early alt on your 95 will be fine RJ.

What I would like to do on this for you guys, is have one of those 94-95 pulleys send to me, then I can take the dimensions I need, and make a spacer(washer). I'll send them out on an over-night to all who need it. Can someone send one to me? This would make things move ahead really well.

This was a mistake on my part, and I'm sorry about this. I will fix it as fast as I can for you guys. What I will do from now on, will be enclude the spacer with eack kit, weather you need it or not. Then down the road if you get a re-build alt, you may need this spacer, which you will then have.

Thanks.

[BT Motorsports]

Ryan, just make up a .200" shim and it will fix your troubles. There is going to be some variance from unit to unit due to casting core shift and assembly routines of the alternator so that # will work universally without any issues.

Paul

[Ryan A Harris]

Thanks for your input Paul, I understand what you mean. I know that any recore can have any mix of parts from any year alt. Thats why I hoping one of the guys with a 94-95 pulley can send me one, I can see whats up from there.

Again, Paul thanks for your input and time.

[kamakazie_1]

What I would like to do on this for you guys, is have one of those 94-95 pulleys send to me, then I can take the dimensions I need, and make a spacer(washer). I'll send them out on an over-night to all who need it. Can someone send one to me? This would make things move ahead really well.Thanks.

I've got one off this junk Alt. Ryan, that one of Rich's looked way to pretty to send off.. I've never sent anything to Canada what's involved with getting it to you.. I'll look when I get home for lunch just to make sure the original one off my 95 look like Rich's. (Just not as clean looking :D)

RJ

[Brianas]

I dont know if this will help at all but-
this is my March UD alt pulley it came with these two spacers
I used the fat one on my 90 sc
the big one=7\16" little one=5/16" thats a rough measurement
g/l
Josh Brianas

[kamakazie_1]

Hey Ryan, the pulley off my original 95 alternator is in fact as Rich's is larger, I'm not ready to put the pulleys on my 95 yet so I haven't pulled that replacement alternator pulley off and looked at it yet.

I do have this one off to send to you if you like, email me and address and info.. kamakazie_1@hotmail.com

RJ

[Ryan A Harris]

kamakazie_1, That would be great. I'm at work so I'll email you my details for shipping later tonight, once I get home.


Brianas, that is basically what I'm going to make. But out of Aluminum.

[minbe]

Mine just came in. Nice pulleys.

[Ryan A Harris]

Ok I received the alt pulley on friday and have made the spacers. I will be stopping in at the post office on my way from work tonight, the 5th of April.

Thanks for all your patience.

[Rich Thomson]

Ok I received the alt pulley on friday and have made the spacers. I will be stopping in at the post office on my way from work tonight, the 5th of April.

Thanks for all your patience.


Can we see a picture of the spacer?

[Ryan A Harris]

Yeah I can snap some pics of them at work tomorrow.

[Ryan A Harris]

Ok, I have some pics for guys.

[Ryan A Harris]

I'll try my best to explain them. With the shaft of the newer style ALTS being longer, I had to make the distance from the bottom of the bore to the end of the pulley(where it stops against the ALT) longer. Now that difference was .165 thousandths of an inch, which is what the spacer is, with a tolerance of + or - .005 thousandths of inch. I did not annodize it, because the belt does run on this spacer. I have send it out to everyone who was in on this group buy.

I hope that was clear, its hard to expalin somethings like this by typing.