Just Realized Something

[hytorksc]

Some of you guys really piss me off. And i'm talking to the racists members of this board. It's small minded ***like you who have a problem with color (so trivial) and other cultures that strip away everything decent about this board. And I am referring to the Dart Shark post. Instead of welcoming this guy, you take shots at his culture and language. THE GUY WAS TRYING TO REACH OUT AND BOND WITH THE SC COMMUNITY. What the *** is wrong with you people??? Just heartless.... Who cares if anyone here is white, black, red, yellow, whatever. Why should it make a difference??? what's the big deal? Here I am for years thinking that the people on this board are great and knowledgeable, top notch innovators and engineers, and then when i read that post- it just puts back into perspective of how ugly Americans can be. No wonder the eastern countries don't like us. Real America doesn't stand for or represents these dispicable views. Recently i was confronted by one of those puny brained people and i was minding my own business- not offending anyone, but this idiot felt that he had to open his big mouth loudly and show how much of a *** he was.

I know this post is in the wrong area- or maybe it doesn't belong here at all, but i tell you- i've been posting here for a couple of years and i have learned alot from some of you but it's guys like you (the racist ones) that actually make me consider giving up the whole SC thing and not have anything to do with those cars ever again.

(Edited by Admin for language.)

[SC UL8R1990]

Dart_Shark and the other guy were trolls. Or just someone having fun. So lets not get upset about turning away possible members.....they obviously werent interested in the SC community :p

Beyond that, theres nothing i hate more than to see prejudice(sp?) and/or racist people. To your comment about some of the top engineers/innovators of these boards .....i dont remember seeing ANY of them post. I think a few people just got carried away. Lets not take it too seriously. The threads are locked , lets move on.

[gldiii]

hytorksc, that guy was just a poser who ID has been banned. His posts were designed as an attempted to be be humorous and get people riled up. A lot of people who have posted on the thread were aware of that. Most of his posts have been edited and deleted.

I'm also not sure if you post is serious or tongue in cheek, but it does violated a couple of rules and will be edited accordingly. Also your characterization of board members is way off. We have many different people from all over the world post here and we try and help them all.

[hytorksc]

the "engineers/innovators" i was referring to were the great people that are pursuing projects like the whipple, and turbos/v8 swaps, and so forth. I am sorry for putting up this post- i got very upset and i apologize to any decent persons here i have offended.

[SilverCasket]

I'm Very Racist - ... I Love My Blue/Black SC, but for some reason I really really don't like yellow SC's. And then ones with stripes. Well all in all, I never saw any racism here amongst people. In fact I doubt anyone really cares what others look like (others=people).... Now cars on the other hand.......

Anthony

[David Neibert]

Hytorksc,

I don't think we have any racist around here...Dart Shark was a joke post and the people who responded did as a joke also. This club/board has people of all sizes, ages, religions and colors who are treated pretty much the same.

Every once in a while a poster crosses the lines of decency and good taste (me included) but generally we are a pretty nice bunch.

David

[hytorksc]

Guys-

I am very sorry for putting this post up here like this. I was just very angry and i over reacted because just a few days ago i had a direct encounter with a racist or supremist which of course their only sick purpose in life is to make people like me upset. I guess you already know by now that i am african american.

I really don't know what kind of views the majority of the SC community has, but all i know is that i love my SC and it's going to be my car for life (or at least until every bearing wears out). I would like to think (even though it may not really be true) that we are all brothers and we have something great in common if nothing else. i have always felt comfortable posting here, and i think that most of you are great guys and gals- although we've never met. i hope to meet some of you at the next Carlisle or other event close to my hometown.

again, i sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding.

[ThunderDave]

Guys-

I am very sorry for putting this post up here like this. I was just very angry and i over reacted because just a few days ago i had a direct encounter with a racist or supremist which of course their only sick purpose in life is to make people like me upset. I guess you already know by now that i am african american.

I really don't know what kind of views the majority of the SC community has, but all i know is that i love my SC and it's going to be my car for life (or at least until every bearing wears out). I would like to think (even though it may not really be true) that we are all brothers and we have something great in common if nothing else. i have always felt comfortable posting here, and i think that most of you are great guys and gals- although we've never met. i hope to meet some of you at the next Carlisle or other event close to my hometown.

again, i sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding.



I think the ones that posted (including myself) did so jokingly and according to how dart shark described us. I don't think we made any racial comments towards dart shark, they were more at ourselves. Besides, he never mentioned his car or anything, just buggin and thuggin'! It was a joke!


David

[XR7 Dave]

I guess you already know by now that i am african american. Nope, had no idea until you said so. In fact, if I were to try to peg you without ever meeting you or speaking to you in person, judging from the tone of your posts in the past (I've read a lot of em! lol) I'd have guessed you were white. Just goes to show all the more how irrelevant race/color is and how alike/different we all are.

:D

[hytorksc]

if we were all the same race and culture, i would think that we all would be sick of each other rather quickly. variety is the spice of life- enjoy the diversity, not all of us are stereotypes. My wife calls me a redneck... i don't know why? :p

[joshbea6]

hytorksc.....

that redneck thing doesn't have anything to do with cars being discovered when you mow the lawn, or using words like usedtocould.....does it?

:D

[hytorksc]

?? didn't get that one... :confused:

[kuhnga]

I'm Very Racist - ... I Love My Blue/Black SC, but for some reason I really really don't like yellow SC's. And then ones with stripes. Well all in all, I never saw any racism here amongst people. In fact I doubt anyone really cares what others look like (others=people).... Now cars on the other hand.......

Anthony
I am not racist either, I just dont like Puerto Ricans named Phil :p

[SlushNaz]

Dart shark was the only one who made a negative racist comment he was like must be all white boys or something along those lines. I know i respond back with i'm white and proud, but other than that i think that was the only real race comment made.

[ThunderDave]

Gary: Do Puerto Ricans name their sons Phil?????? :confused: :D :eek: :rolleyes:

David

[joshbea6]

hytork........

Sorry, bad Jeff Foxworthy reference......(you might be a redneck if......)

[David Neibert]

I guess you already know by now that i am african american.

Not that it matters, but I would have bet you were Canadian.

David

[mannysc]

your all foreigners to me

Im a Racist I racist all the time .
1/4 mile Racist,
1/8 mile racist,
street Racist.

[hytorksc]

i racist to the grocery store, and i racist to work. why just the other day i racist a trans am, but i did not beat the racist. :D

[danekejt]

yeah i responded but am far from racist. i took that as a joke and was responding accordingly. i feel bad for getting you upset knowing that one of my posts was in there. sorry man and i hope you dont drop out of site.

[al35thsc]

I can smell a troll a mile away. Seriously, I call George racist on other boards all the time, he knows I'm kidding (I hope) cuz he'll leave things on a thread like "WHITE POWER!" but he'll edit where I said I'm a powerful mexican in spanish. (I also used the non-derogatory form of the "n word" tho so I know why it got cut; damned nazi! lol)

The dude called everyone "whiteboys" and you were trying to defend him saying we were the racists? C'mon man. I'll admit, I'm racist sometimes, but know when to keep my mouth shut about things. On the boards, that's one of the times.

Here, we dont care if you are black, red, white, or brown like me, we just care if your car is.

[hytorksc]

i just misunderstood that post and reacted because of a recent encounter i had- plain and simple.

no way am i leaving this site. i think sometimes with all the stress i'm going thru (my mom has parkisons, my wife has a lifetime illness, my job is not permanent, i've got medical bills up to the sky, and now trying to find a decent place to live), it's a wonder how i haven't cracked by now. with all this going on it's hard to keep your thoughts straight.

it's my fault, i need to take it down 2 thousand. no hard feelings at all.

[dirtybird91]

I have been around here since 1997 and I did not realize that there were other "BLACK" people on this board! :mad:

I found this place first and therefore I must proclaim myself as the first BLACK MAN on this board! One of us has got to go hytorksc

:D :D :D
This can be simply decided by a "My SC vs. Your SC" Contest when the turbo project is finished in late August! :p

[hytorksc]

wait til i get my whipple setup done with Randy's enlarged intake manifold and my m5r2 conversion.... then we'll see who get's off the line first and stays out front :D

the battle of the black guys SC's... coming soon. :cool:

Ahem... you'll be waiting for a while on this one cause i ain't got no money right now.

[hytorksc]

dirtybird91- you have PM.

[dirtybird91]

wait til i get my whipple setup done with Randy's enlarged intake manifold and my m5r2 conversion.... then we'll see who get's off the line first and stays out front :D

the battle of the black guys SC's... coming soon. :cool:

Ahem... you'll be waiting for a while on this one cause i ain't got no money right now.

ROFL!!! :D :D :D
If you take the advise of Randy Baker your intake will go "BOOM"! :D

Just kiddin! Randy is one Hell of a guy, and I think you will learn a lot from him.
David Neibert has also been the kind of guy that I could depend on to shoot me straight on things when I was mixed up.
Oh yeah! You have a PM! :cool:

[Jimmy 2Coupes]

I have been around here since 1997 and I did not realize that there were other "BLACK" people on this board!

[quote]I found this place first and therefore I must proclaim myself as the first BLACK MAN on this board! One of us has got to go hytorksc[quote/]

Wait a minute DIRTYBIRD91. I've been around here since 97 too, I just don't post very much and I've been black since I was born. :D

hytorksc, I've seen some pretty racy stuff posted on the boards over the years that my first inclination was to post a responce too but then I just cool down and let it go. I hate getting into cyber space arguments. :mad:
I got into an internet argument over at TCCOA once when a guy posted that the SC M5R2 transmission wouldn't hold up to much power over stock. This guy didn't even have an SC :eek: . All I did was post that I ran a 13.778 with an M5R2 trans and that others were running much better times than that and they were holding up just fine except for syncro problems. You'd of that I slapped the guy's mama by the way he responded to my post. This guy went into a total tirade in telling me I was wrong and that Jerry W told him it woudn't hold up period. I have all the respect in the world for Jerry and his tuning abilitys but I had to respond and the responce showed how pissed I was and was quickly deleted by the administrater. I wanted to reach out and touch somebody if you know what I mean. :) I haven't seen to much racy stuff here but on some of the other boards it's comon place. I just take it with a grain of salt and make a mental note of who's posting it so I get an idea on who's who. ;)

[hytorksc]

thanks jimmy2coupes. God bless you man. you know i really don't have anything against anyone on this board- things are the way they are for a reason whether we like it or not, it's just human nature. At least we all have something in common here- putting the SC on the map in the world of supercars.

[ThunderDave]

I've seen racism at it's worst in my own family. That's right, in my own family. The youngest of my 3 sisters, who was killed by her boyfriend (a black man) in 1992, was also married to a black man in the mid 80's. He had gone to the same high school we did and we both knew him, he was a great guy.

The rest of our family treated both of them very badly while she was with him. I think my dad and step mom were the worst about it. They divorced and she later started dating another black guy (they didn't approve of this one either) and after the relationship had gotten to where he wasn't being good to her, he started beating her and eventually killed her because she wanted out of it.

I was there when this was going on and I came home from work one evening and found her. It has left an impression on me that I'll have for the rest of my life. Anyway, in the later 90s, one of my step sisters started dating a black man and her mom and my dad treat him like gold and don't have a problem with it. Oh, did I mention he's a cardiologist in Greensboro, NC?

I wouldn't think his money would make a difference to them. But they have turned out to be so racist and hipocrits that it makes me sick. So whether you are black or white or any other race or nationality, it doesn't matter. It's what's on the inside that counts. Oh and the car you drive matters too and since you all have SCs, your OK with me. :D

I know dirty(turbo)bird91 is up in Virginia. where are y'all at hytorksc and jimmy2coupes?


David

[hytorksc]

ncredsc,

Hey i'm sorry to hear that happened in your family. Just goes to show you there are bad seeds in any race. The black race has a long way to go as far as raising our children go. I know that doesn't make us look good at all from a white perspective, but i think it has to be understood that of course not all of us grew up with hostility inbred in us. Sometimes it's hard not to view us in a negative way especially when pretty much all media in general portrays black men (and the entire black race) in a negative way. This underlying negativity is constantly being pushed out everyday, whether you see it on rap videos, movies, or in the news. For example, not all of us strive to be associated with "G's" or bling-bling and gold chains and stuff. It is by design over generations of people for centuries in this country from the instance of slavery that these negatives are enforced. We (the black race) on the other hand have to turn around these negatives, remove the stigmas, and teach or instill in our children how to overcome the stereotyping and continue to strive to become major positive contributors along with our white brothers and sisters in supporting the USA. Simply put, if you are a black citizen who intends on living in the USA, then that person should be seeking to support the USA together with our white brothers and sisters, learn all that's possible to be learned, and work to change the negative stigma against us. Unfortunately, there are still big hurdles to get over, and the way things are going, this will not happen in my lifetime anyway.

i know i went off on a tangent here- sorry about that.

you have pm.

[thumphed]

ncredsc,

Hey i'm sorry to hear that happened in your family. Just goes to show you there are bad seeds in any race. The black race has a long way to go as far as raising our children go. I know that doesn't make us look good at all from a white perspective, but i think it has to be understood that of course not all of us grew up with hostility inbred in us. Sometimes it's hard not to view us in a negative way especially when pretty much all media in general portrays black men (and the entire black race) in a negative way. This underlying negativity is constantly being pushed out everyday, whether you see it on rap videos, movies, or in the news. For example, not all of us strive to be associated with "G's" or bling-bling and gold chains and stuff. It is by design over generations of people for centuries in this country from the instance of slavery that these negatives are enforced. We (the black race) on the other hand have to turn around these negatives, remove the stigmas, and teach or instill in our children how to overcome the stereotyping and continue to strive to become major positive contributors along with our white brothers and sisters in supporting the USA. Simply put, if you are a black citizen who intends on living in the USA, then that person should be seeking to support the USA together with our white brothers and sisters, learn all that's possible to be learned, and work to change the negative stigma against us. Unfortunately, there are still big hurdles to get over, and the way things are going, this will not happen in my lifetime anyway.

i know i went off on a tangent here- sorry about that.

you have pm.

its odd to hear that coming from a black man. alot of people confuse the N word ... it doesn't refer to just blacks, and not all blacks ... N's,are ingorant ... ignorance breeds more ignorance,the apple doesn't fall far from the tree,i, my self,am white...i have not had very many pleasurable experiences with the african-american race as a whole, but maybe that has to do with my attitude. your post opened my eyes,and i will try to not be so stereo-typical....there's just the numbers game,and thats what screws everyone - NUMBERS ... numbers screw you, me, ahkmed from the habib store,and even the latinos ... thenumbers i'm refering to now, are the INSURANCE numbers!!! AHHHH!!! why do we pay for something we hope to never have to use??? isnt thatlike saying,'ok, its ok towreck now, coz ihave insurance???' i know i know, off topic! someone tell me to shut up whenever you feel like it!! idont even mind the occasional 'smack with a large trout'(lame mIRC joke attempt)

[hytorksc]

your right- using the "N" word is just a product of ignorance. And ignorance does breed more ignorance. And I'm afraid that is what's popular right now in music (if you want to call it that- more like noise to me), and teen age culture. It's unfortunate that our young people can't see past this mindset right now. The American media is not helping either. They are just capitalizing on this negativity and alot of us are selling out to it. That's what i see with these so called "artists" out here like P. Diddy or someone similar. And alot of them don't even know where they're going. They're not real artists- they are just sell outs that ruin kids minds all for getting rich. Lil Kim is another example- she just sells out for money to feed her wild spending fetishes, and some of them may compensate by contributing to a charity or something to help justify their selfish indulgences. And the young people are just falling and falling for this foolishness. I mean what's the point of all this? They get ridiculous extreme homes, and several exotic cars... how can they even live with themselves is a wonder to me- they sure didn't get there using much brains. It makes me angry to see this happening, and it paints an ugly picture of black americans as if we are just a bunch of freeloaders and opportunists that take up space and don't contribute. The poor families do need help and hand-outs.. i'm not talking about them. The american public believes all this- that's the bad part. Not all of black america is like this. There are some black americans who want to make a positive difference in this country, but their efforts are blocked by the system, and as usual people would rather see the negative because it's more entertaining- sort of like traffic slowing down and rubbernecking to see an accident on the side of the road- anything that has drama in it. It's really a sad thing to see this happening- it even effects my daughter heavily thru peer pressure, but i am teaching her to recognize where it's coming from and not to participate in it.

Now i'm not just saying that the problem is all on the black side, there are major hurdles that have to be removed on the white side too. There is alot of negative bias and leverage on the white side that need to be addressed too. Issues on both sides feed off of and perpetuate each other.

I need to stop here- i tend to get judgemental, and that's not what this forum is about. Excuse me, I need to judge myself now.

[XR7 Dave]

I wish people wouldn't talk about the "black" things and "white" things. I see these problems as completely cross racial things. If you think that Lil Kim is a bad influence, well I have a very young daughter and from my perspective Britney Spears is a much bigger threat than Lil Kim.

The thing is we all face the same problems and if we think that it is a "black" thing then what we are doing is focusing on the color (keep in mind that all black people in this country are not "African American" and a great lot do not have the common slavery roots or history of repression or discrimination that the true "African Americans" have) instead of the real issues which are greed, immorality, self gratification, etc.

It really just requires us to change our mindset. It's like the switch from "stewardess" to "airline attendant". "Stewardess" has a female connotation, even if you say "steward", it still makes the listener think female first and they you think, "oh, its a guy though." I think we should take large measures to refrain from labelling our problems with "black" or "white". I think that results in a perpetuation of the problem merely by our language, and what we actually say tainted if not completely lost.

Hope that made some sense, I dont' claim to be an authority on the subject. :/ It's just my opinion (for today at least. :)).

[hytorksc]

xr7dave,

i agree. Categorizations of black or white don't help here either. i stand corrected.

[thumphed]

whenever someone refers to racism, the immeadiate thought is white on black .... how about vice versa? i know many of people that cant go to school because they are not black ....i myself, worked things the right way, and have gotten several large grants to go back to school ... affirmative action is BS, if the NAAWP was as vocal as the NAACP, it would be called a Racist org. even tho the NAACP and NAAWP are the SAME THING ... oe for coloreds, the others for 'whites' .... i am not 'full' white, i have cherokee in me as well .... the only people that have EVER been wronged in this country more than the black man is the indian ....i'm not goingto go into 'the black man sold the fellow black man into slavery' thing, because that is a well known fact ... the indian was run off THEIR land, notgiven ANYTHING in return, and no 'reperations' have been made .... there are a handful of african-american descendants that are demanding the govt pay them 'slave reperations' ... i ask these people this: Were YOU PERSONALLY wronged in any way whatsoever? How does what happened in someone else's lifetime hurt you? Doesnt this take it beyond Civil Rights and into GREED? Does this make you any better than the Slave Driver? You want something for nothing, and are willing to give up nothing in return for it! Again, those questions are directed at the people demanding 'SLAVE REPERATIONS' (The biggest crock of BS i have heard as of late!)

my .02, not intended to offend anyone, if I did, I apologize NOW!

James

[hytorksc]

whenever someone refers to racism, the immeadiate thought is white on black .... how about vice versa? i know many of people that cant go to school because they are not black ....i myself, worked things the right way, and have gotten several large grants to go back to school ... affirmative action is BS, if the NAAWP was as vocal as the NAACP, it would be called a Racist org. even tho the NAACP and NAAWP are the SAME THING ... oe for coloreds, the others for 'whites' .... i am not 'full' white, i have cherokee in me as well .... the only people that have EVER been wronged in this country more than the black man is the indian ....i'm not goingto go into 'the black man sold the fellow black man into slavery' thing, because that is a well known fact ... the indian was run off THEIR land, notgiven ANYTHING in return, and no 'reperations' have been made .... there are a handful of african-american descendants that are demanding the govt pay them 'slave reperations' ... i ask these people this: Were YOU PERSONALLY wronged in any way whatsoever? How does what happened in someone else's lifetime hurt you? Doesnt this take it beyond Civil Rights and into GREED? Does this make you any better than the Slave Driver? You want something for nothing, and are willing to give up nothing in return for it! Again, those questions are directed at the people demanding 'SLAVE REPERATIONS' (The biggest crock of BS i have heard as of late!)

my .02, not intended to offend anyone, if I did, I apologize NOW!

James

I realize there are inequities that are still prevailing out there. But they are more "under the table" with it these days.

The NAACP was created for a time in america when segregation and prejudice was dominant. It may not serve the same function it did back in the 50's and 60's, but i feel it still needs to be around simply because it is a reminder to certain people in power in this country not to implement legislation that would take the laws back to those dark times. And what is the NAAWP? i never heard of them. Anyway there is no need for an NAAWP organization- the race that pretty much controls everything in this country is white. What would you need that for? That's why that org. would be interpreted as racist.

It's unfortunate that native americans did not get their lands back and i believe they should have, but if they did would it not be just about most of the USA? You know that's not going to happen now. As a whole it would be fair for native americans to receive monetary compensation for this i would think. Would it be possible for america to afford this? that's the question i would have.

I really don't know anything much about slave reparations. I would also think that for some cases it may be just another opportunity or excuse to get money, but it also depends on the details and evidence found that may actually justify it (loss of inheritance/ruined families/stolen lands??). There were some horrible things that happened in slavery that you and I could not possibly imagine simply because we weren't there- so i would imagine that some of it is not BS.

On a much larger scale, look at what Hitler did to the Jews. And that was real scarry. If there is any group of people who deserve reparations it's them.

[hytorksc]

There will always be inequities existing in this country, all we can do is identify them and try to correct it.
We need to get out of this black/white/native american thing and just move on. I could complain about alot of unfair things that have happened to me, but i know what kind of world i live in and i find ways to work around them. there are still things about this country that frustrate me. But all in all i'm glad i'm an american. There are much worst things out in the rest of the world than these little problems we face in america. Cherish the peaceful times we now have, because there are things on the horizon that you cannot possibly imagine that are actually going to happen.

i'm done with this post.

[mannysc]

its all a crock of bs this is not the place or even a forum for your personal veiws on a political or racial view or stand point.

Im a native American and have small amounts of both "white" and "black",
in me I cry for no moneys or equalitys ,

life is what you make it .
go to school and actually study, and you can be a sucsess,

now this is a forum for SUPERCOUPES I beleive so let talk about the damn cars OK!

mines going back together right now.
new motor , trans and few other parts,

I really think this post should be locked and if another gets started by the same people they should face possible suspension from said forums untill a
satisfactory time has been passed,

and upon any further abridgments of the rules maybe a long term ,
revocation of rights to post .

we talk of many none sc things here but to far is to far,

in the last four post or more I didnt even see "sc" once,

but who am I to talk bs Ive done just as bad , but was also stoped in,
my tracks by the powers that be and I listened to them.

best decision of my life I hope you guys follow.

[dirtybird91]

This club is a lot bigger than just the cars! We are all HUMAN BEINGS here, and his post is very relavant indeed. This man feels as if he were treated unjust, and as fellow SCers it is our duty to exterminate any type of negative vibes that we may give off. ;)

I don't personally care what color someone is. What is between the skull is what is important. Some people like to use color as a krutch, white and black! :mad:

I get so tired of that lame @$$ excuse about how someone was raised to be predjudice! My stepfather was such a racist that I could not even have someone White at my house when I was a kid. :o Hell, I had a decision to make when I became a man! BY THE WAY: It was the easiest decision I ever made, and I am proud to say that I have many more brothers today- BLACK and WHITE.

In 1989 my cousin was drowned by people that were upset with him because his skin was black. I suffered for years trying to understand that, but no way in HELL could I blame it on the entire white race. People are people, and you will find some really crazy minded people in every race. Anyone narrow or ignorant enough to believe that they had anything to do with what hue their skin is must be related to that "ILIKEJUGZ" guy! :D

Hell, for a while I forgot I was BLACK! I thought the whole skin thing was just a Birthmark! :p

[mannysc]

now Im not against the subject but feel it will be locked up ,

this is a subject that is best spoken of on other forums or by instant messenger, ive personaly had to deal with predjudice and ,
dont like the taste of it .

as you stated you almost forgot your black,
I too forget Im not white sometimes but thats a good thing.
it means we are being treated as equils,

i forget racist are alive and well in the usa sometimes.

[dirtybird91]

as you stated you almost forgot your black,
I too forget Im not white sometimes but thats a good thing.
it means we are being treated as equils,

i forget racist are alive and well in the usa sometimes.

LOL Manny! I almost forgot you were a human being! :D :D :D
Just kidding man, it's fun to irritate you. How's the inverted turd going!? :D


Seriously man,
Racism is a disease of the mind, and I detest it with all my heart. I think the biggest issue is people who live in a small corner of the mind. People who believe that they are somewhat "better" due to their race need to be edjucated. Edjucation is the key here. Among human beings there is no more than .02% difference in anyone human. (Scientific fact)

Usually a true racist is a limited person who has other deeper issues. If we were all the same color you would still find idiots that wanted to separate us by things like:
What color is YOUR SC :rolleyes:
What year is YOUR SC :rolleyes:
LOL! What list is YOUR SC on. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ThunderDave]

Ok guys, don't make me have to seperate you two. :D Really, Manny said no one had mentioned SC, so in keeping with our policy to keep Manny happy, we have this: SCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSC SCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSCSC.......SCSCSCSCSCSCSCS CSCSCSCSCSUPERCOUPE!

:D :D :D :p :p :p :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :cool:


OK, happy now Manny? :D

David

[Randy N Connie]

I find people that pride themselves for speeking politically correct.
Usually end up being liars..

RANDY