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harmonic Balancer

Anyone know the price off the top of their heads, mine's pretty wobly.
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

$375 canadian for a ford one

Can't remember the bhg one
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

i have one i will sell, its from a 1993 SC with 50,000kilometers.
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

Virgil bought one lately and if i remember correctly he has a spare, Maybe?
 
Re: Harmonic Balancer : HB

This is a whole chapter in a book topic, the HB !
IN essence, it's the nemesis of our SC engine, lol!

Presently, without looking up the actual cost, I
had a Ford one put on and recall it being around
$500 Cdn plus labour...so u'er looking at bucks...

As a backup and future permanent solution, I
participated in the group buy on the BHJ final
solution (lol!) one...! Just arrived...with massive,
double thickness bolt to boot!!! Approaches $1Kcdn.

BHJ has a couple, supposedly, it now keeps in
inventory for the odd soul willing to go this route.
So, if you're interested, holler on the American
site to George...

Lots was hammered out on this topic, if it's still
available and not pushed off our limited 20 page
system on the American site if u care to check...

You guys HAVE TO get in the habit of printing off
such tech talk because many are/will lose interest
to repeat themselves, as I am here now doing!,
on repeat topics like this whenever they come up,
whether you need that topic at the time,
or not...

Anyway, for the last time: You DO NOT want to
remove and replace these suckers. Period. And
that's according to our Dr. Fred !
The HB is meant to be a one-time use animal,
according to him...
From my experience I agree: Those tolerances get
messed up once removed and you're at the mercy
of the gods if you put it back on because now
there's more play. And it's the play that will
create fracture fissures that ultimately fatigue
the metal, and it fails....put summarily !

Secondly, NEVER hammer it on!!! If you must risk
on/off scenarios: Do so ever so gingerly, like
handling a baby, or whatever image helps !!!!!

Anyway, have I addressed what you're after???

And PS: Once wobbly, once wobbly too many:
That means the next step IS breakage!!!
Peace, virgil
 
Re: Harmonic Balancer : HB

Hmm don't worry about removal raj has swapped Harmonic Balancers quite a few times he told me and has never had a problem with them working properly after removal. He removed mine from the motor, with the special tool needed to do it.
 
Re: Don't give the devil a ride: He'll want to drive !

Yeah, I know that: He stated it in that marathon
discussion we had for months on the American site!

BUT, Raj is Raj, and the rest of you aren't!

Secondly, he is not a Dr Fred, at least not yet!

Thirdly, being a unique Raj, he gingerly handled it
obviously but can't be assured permanence in
ultimate application success, can he? (Lol!)
 
Re: Don't give the devil a ride: He'll want to drive !

I smash mine on with a hammer,its fun , you should try it(and remove it with a crow-bar), done it like 10 times, since I paid several hundred dollars to have my engine balanced, the damper will not fall off, so I saved myself a grand
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

When my HB went it cost me $1700! Woo! So you should get it replaced if you know it's kickin the bucket. Was talking to a guy at ford and he said I got off cheap with it going while I was driving.

It was the first time I ever had a repair where PARTS cost more than LABOUR . Scary stuff!
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

Raj, you character you...! Hey, though, on this
topic, if I may suggest (?) give thought to isolating
your humour or satire from reality, since these
guys aren't as gifted as you and don't really
get what you're toying with....(!)
 
Re: harmonic Balancer

i do smash it with a hammer, but with a certain kind in a certain spot or it will deform, and I have removed it several times, and I guess the torque specs:D , everything is true, maybe not the crow-bar part:| , but only a complete idiot would try that, and he/she deserves a broken balancer if they are that dense:|

Disclaimer
" please take my advice as a joke, if it wrecks your stuff... SEND PICS!!!!ASAP assheads..at once"
 
Re: Complete Idiot's Guide to HB Lore! (lol!)

Well, to add to that:
Handling of the HB is VERY critical, to the point,
that even my BHJ, which is a tank compared to
the factory one, includes an 8.5 x ll page on its
installation. WITH a disclaimer that if it's hammered,
kiss it good bye.... Under installation Step 2:

"DO NOT INSTALL THIS DAMPER WITH A HAMMER"

A special installation tool is available from them...

It WOULD be my opinion in no uncertain terms,
that whenever or wherever there has been even
a tightening of the crank bolt by any and all
mechanics, followed by premature HB failure,
KNOW in no uncertain terms, that it was CAUSED
by, said, same, sueable, mechanic (or neighbour,
or misinformed eager-beaver friend, mother inlaw,
and all other known do-gooders...lol!) Peace!
 
Re: Complete Idiot's Guide to HB Lore! (lol!)

big secret...shhhhh, I'd say over 50% are hammered on, but no-one ever says they are, some are impacted on, but no-one ever says that they are. Heres a biggie, 99% of the tires places impact lug-nuts on...guess what, no-one says they were, so unless a good friend/shop does it, or you do it yourself, or you watch them and know whats going on, or you will have no clue:D , happy motoring!!

I know it sends shivers, but it a scary place out there:|

P.S. Maaco doesnt really do a good a job as they say also. I was like OMG, when I first heard that, made me cry
 
Re: Complete Idiot's Guide to HB Lore! (lol!)

what is a "Harmonic Balancer"??????
 
Re: Complete Idiot's Guide to HB Lore! (lol!)

Ever heard of a harmonica...well it has nothing to do with the instrument, sorry, just fork out a grand for an upgraded one if yours ever blows(I mean IF!!!), thats if it turns your crank..hahaha

holy $hit I'm helpful today:D
 
belt slipping?

Well my crank bolt broke the other day (found it on the garage floor). Had a new one put in and I noticed the pully wobles now. I also noticed that once the boost gage reads 0 or higher, the car will feel like it misses a spark (only way I can describe it). It does it randomly and gets worse as the boost increases. My theory (and please correct me or suggest something else) is that because of the crank pully woble the jackshaft belt slips occasionally. Car feels like its bucking. This only happens in positive boost area (on the gage).

Kevin
 
Re: belt slipping?

Virgil: Where did you get $500 from Ford from? Its $375 from most ford places, even cheaper if you get a discount.

Get a friend at a local ford dealership, or if that fails, use 5 star ford and dan newman, or the guy from the sccoo
 
Re: belt slipping?

This is a harmonic balancer bill, it is connected to the crank in the front of you engine. Its job is exactly as it is called. Without one your engine would vibrate to death.

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Re: HB & Pulley Assembly & Crank Sensor

Hey, Taz, I'd have to find my invoice but best
I recall was the $500 was for the combo of
HB plus pulley assembly so that it was one new
integrated unit, as well as a new crank sensor
plus bolt, which are best at any such damage stage, to replace...

Now, whereas hammering ain't recommended,
here on our site "we" are discussing and informing ourselves, SO THAT we can demand in future of our mechanics, w h a t it is we both know of the product, and request they do, SO THAT we aren't stuck in Timbuk-tu with a broken down SC,
since according to Murphy's Law, these things never break down when at home in the convenience of our carports...lol!

And Raj, I believe in setting up working relationships
with key support personnel, who then get to know
"my" requirements, one of which is, NEVER use air
on my rims: Manual torqueing only! And because I
know when they did use air:
Car weight centeredness is lost when driving!!!
Becomes evident fast, especially because I
furthermore, get "performance alighnments" done,
attaining zero-state centered mass steering,
isolating thereby any and all mechanical deviations
from the ideal norm......

Lastly, we want our guys to demand care in playing
with the HB because the factory nose piece can't
handle the stresses of forced entry, like hammering,
and will accelerate wear plus breakdown. AND,
Dr Fred was sharing that from his greater experience
than yours, this is mandated, and 2ndly, a one-use
application. If u get more life than that. Great, but
quit playing dumb that the others will also...!!!
AND: I didn't because my mechanics were stupid
and lazy. But they won't do it again, now that
I know what I know. And I want the rest of our
troops likewise to know...!

Lastly, Bill, this prob is unique to supercharged
engines only. So go back to sleep, it doesn't
apply to your engine, u lucky guy...!!!

Peace, virgil

P: Anyone from Canada contemplating purchasing
"The Final Solution" HB from BHJ have to realize
they'll face U.S. exchange plus PST, GST, and
duty therein driving up the cost towards $700...!
But remember, it is a permanent fix !!!
 
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