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darkstar_one
09-02-2004, 08:03 PM
Hey, is it impossible to whoop a 5.0L mustang at a rolling start of 75MPH...??? cuz if it is then i have no idea how i did it then...

So i just dropped my friend off at her job coming on the freeway, down the 105 towards the 110, then i see a 5.0 FOX BODY mustang cutting off people... then he passes me, i downshift out of overdrive and proceed to follow him, i stay behind him, then i smash passed him to get his attention... it works, the freeway opens up and were going at around 75 when he pulls up, we both look at each other, and we smash on the pedal... he gets ahead of me for about a quarter of a car lenght and boom... i start to pass him... i start leaving a gap between us around 3 - 4 car lenghts... i look at the gauge as the SHIFT light comes up and the needle isnt moving anymore, its passed 120MPH... he never caught up... u can hear his loud *** exhaust but just wasnt going anywere anymore... am i the only one who has done this? or has anyone else done this with almost a stock T BIRD? against a 5.0L with a rolling start at 75MPH

Hock
09-02-2004, 08:42 PM
Its not impossible.

I killed a 93 GT one night, and I was up to 130 before I backed out of it.

But, thats because I was coming up to a 45mph zone.

David Neibert
09-02-2004, 08:46 PM
Most SCs can beat a stock 5.0 Mustang any day of the week. Don't try it with the newer 4.6 liter ones though.

David

Hock
09-02-2004, 09:03 PM
How new of a 4.6L.

I've raced several 96-98's and whooped them hard.

Now the 99 and up I haven't yet but I did keep up with a covertable. :p

92redsc
09-02-2004, 11:09 PM
yeah 96-98s are slow. this is my opinion on how fast factory gts were. 1.99 up GT, 2. 87-93 GT, 3. 94-95 GT, 4. 96-98 GT. This is easialy figured by wieght and HP. estimates. 1. 99up 260 hp over 300 torque and 3400 lb curb 2.87-93 GT 225 HP 285 torque and 3225 curb. 3. 94-95 GT 215 HP 285 torque 3350 curb. 4. 96-98 GT 220 HP (or somthing like that) 265 torque and 3350 curb. these are estimates so dont jump my arse!!

XxSlowpokexX
09-02-2004, 11:56 PM
My 87 convertable when it was stock ran a 14.2@99mph. Speed density reg tires and all.....I dont think there are many SC's that can do that...A Majority of 5.0 fox body stangs are in the 14's..Autoes for the most part were in the low 15's..

That being said I still think ya can whoop a stang top end

darkstar_one
09-03-2004, 12:04 AM
wait a minute, my best friend raced a 01 MUSTANG GT and he whooped him, on the freeway too... my freind has a ACURA INTEGRA LS 98 with AEM real cold air and a nice exhaust... that mustang never had a chance, my friend had him by 4 cars... and u can hear that mustang smashing on the pedal... and.. i can beat my friend by 6 car lengths... how am i not gonna be able to out that 01 mustang...

Chris89cougar
09-03-2004, 12:05 AM
I can beat most stock GT 5.0 mustangs at the track all day long. A 2001 Mustang GT runs anywhere from high 13's to low 14's at around 98 to 100 mph. I lost to a new mustang GT, he ran a 13.8 at 99.

Chris

XR7 Dave
09-03-2004, 12:13 AM
Damon, you don't count because you race at a downhill track. :p

Seriously, I remember being at the track in 87 with a ton of Mustangs when the local club was having an event. I remember one dude with brand new notch that ran 13.8 @ 101 but he had removed his accessory belt altogether and a few other tricks as well (like a ton of ice was one of them). He too claimed it was bone stock but then couldn't back it up and it ran mostly 14.2's the rest of the day.

All the other Mustangs that day were running 15.5-14.40's. There was one dude there with an LX running 13.90's @ 99 with slicks, skinnies, open headers, and a bunch of other crap. He was sorely pissed off about the guy who ran 13.80 on a stocker. In street trim though I doubt any of them really run faster than 15.0. Of course I must mention that I never ran better than 15.4 at that same track later when I had the XR7 bone stock - well except once when I tried the same trick of pulling the accessory belt and then it ran 15.1 but I have to think that is kind of hard on the ol' headgaskets. LOL

Chris89cougar
09-03-2004, 12:23 AM
Wow you dropped .3 tenths just from that? That would be enough to get me into the 13's lol

Chris

XxSlowpokexX
09-03-2004, 09:30 PM
My bad...It was a 14.0 @ 99mph..However I did have equal lenght shorties and flowmasters....Also set my timing at 14, removed my air silencer and adjusted my tps to .91.

To boot I had 3 fosgate amps a box with two 10 inch kickers and a crap load of stuff in the back seat.

I'm also sure my 255/40/17's all around didnt help as far as rolling resistence.

The 14.0 was run bogging out the hole as I have a super stiff suspension in the stang

From the factory the stangs were not consistant. Timing could be under the 10 degrees as specified and TPS was always way off( still within range however) I think this had alot to do with the various times you would see.

For an example. I had an 87 cougar xr7 that I did a 91 stang 5.0&AOD swap into. Only mods were shorty headers and dynomax ultraflows. After doing one of my special tuneups I was running 14.4's all day long in a heavier than stang car. This was with a nice bog out the hole......Advance it 4 months later I did a 5 speed conversion. Picked up 8 tenths of a second. 13.6's all day long easing out the hole on firestone firehawks.

The reason you may see a 5.0 stang running poorly is usually due to lead foot syndrome, I dont know when to shift syndrome, or my car is in a poor state of tune syndrome. I can take almost any good running 5.0 5 speed stang and get it to run mid 14's for nothing more then a tuneup

Here is the cougar before I sodl it and the guy wrapped it around a tree.
I really miss that car

http://members.aol.com/xmetalgodnyc/cougar.jpg

MercsSC
09-04-2004, 10:00 AM
if you have 4:11 you will have no top end ..and a ton down low ...so hard to compare 1/4 mile times to a roll on ...but when you do smash the peddle at 75mph it does go like stink... there is a very very happy zone @ that speed ...dave