1987 Dodge Charger Turbo [Archive] - Super Coupe Club of America Forums

supercharged24

09-30-2004, 08:59 PM

I seen a 1987 Dodge Charger Turbo 5-Speed for sale here about 100 miles away from me. I don't know anything about these cars...does anyone here? It has 117k miles and I think I could get it for around a 1000, what do you guys think?

getblown

09-30-2004, 11:48 PM

Damn you! you L.S.O.B. ... OMG if you dont buy it, you tell me, and ill make the trip and buy it from under your nose...
Ok... im calming down... just very excited.
I have had 3 Shelby Turbo cars, I miss everysingle one of them.
I had a Garnet red and Silver 87 which was my baby until the accident.
http://gallery.consumerreview.com/car/gallery/pictures/shelby.jpg
Quick news - 2.2 Turbo 5spd, that is undoubtitly faster that a stock SC and as fast as a stock 5spd Mustang GT ('93)... OH man, all i can say is if it looks good and is in overall good shape, that is agood deal. I wish that i could get a deal like that...

jOe

supercharged24

10-01-2004, 07:21 AM

Well here are some pictures of it. They say it runs perfect, it is a 2.2l 5-speed.

EDIT- They say that it pushes 14psi of boost. :D

MIKE 38sc

10-01-2004, 11:41 AM

Unlike the SC you can make those cars fly for cheap$$$$. There are 2 things about the 2.2 engine you should know. Replace the head gasket and the timing belt every 60,000 miles because they both go at about the same time.
I have played with those engines for 8 years and you will not make it to 70,000 miles very often without replacing those 2 items, its just like clockwork.
The good thing about it is both items are very easy to replace and you can do so for less than $100. That engine is also a freewheeling engine meaning that IF the timing belt breaks on you the valvetrain and pistons will NOT be damaged. Even if you trash the motor parts are CHEAP!!, nothing at all like the SC. I second everything that getblown has said, those cars are FUN!!!

getblown

10-01-2004, 12:42 PM

Well here are some pictures of it. They say it runs perfect, it is a 2.2l 5-speed.

EDIT- They say that it pushes 14psi of boost. :D

Now with 14psi im impressed with, i think it was 8-9 factory but with an earlier computer with a more aggressive spark then that one inparticular should run a low 14 ;) ... Dude, lots of fun...
Its been repainted the cheap way, and it doesnt look near as cool but the int. looks perfect and so does the outside ...
WELL WORTH $1000... its ashame your in MO and im in PA... damn

jOe

supercharged24

10-01-2004, 04:30 PM

MIKE 38sc

10-01-2004, 06:31 PM

So if I do get it, should I replace the Timing belt and Head Gasket when I get it? Does it cost around $100 to do both, or $100 each? How easy is it to do both of these not being familar with these motors? Thanks for all the help.

EDIT- I just noticed it said it had an 89 2.5L Turbo I w/89 computer harness and the grainger valve set to 14psi. I don't know what all that means, or if it is faster or slower than the 2.2....hmmm Guess I will have to wait until one of you tells me...lol

What all that means is the present owner has already been playing with car! :D hehe.....Since this is a Ford club I'll just give you a link that will answer any qeustions you can think of. Go to www.turbominivan.com there you will find a list of some of hotshoes in the dodge turbo world. The peoples names are links to click on to go to there sites. Check out Gus Mahons site, Gus died back in 02 but his family keep his site up and running. You will find a wealth of info there, have fun!!!!

EDIT: I forgot to tell you once you open the homepage click on "Vans on the net" link for that list.

kwikcoupe

10-01-2004, 08:20 PM

ok since there is a few old mopar guys on here Ill ask. Im biulding up an import engine right now and have a new TA34 turbo from a turbo daytona. Its been converted to n external wastgate but i kept the sleeve bearings. how much psi do these things normally run max. Ive been to the link there and a guy has one running 30+ psi. Id be cool if i could get 18 out of it.

getblown

10-02-2004, 12:59 AM

EDIT- I just noticed it said it had an 89 2.5L Turbo I w/89 computer harness and the grainger valve set to 14psi. I don't know what all that means, or if it is faster or slower than the 2.2....hmmm Guess I will have to wait until one of you tells me...lol

Umm yeah, this means that not only has the present owner been playing with it, this also means that its a Turbo-Hybrid dodge...
If im right from my readings, they take a DOHC neon head and bolt it too a regular 2.2 head, and then not only do they have a DOHC but a 2.5 engine which was found in the more "Luxurious" cars. dynastys... minivans and such... wow... even more for $1000... LUCKY *** MOFO :D

jOe

ThunderDave

10-02-2004, 01:04 AM

Umm yeah, this means that not only has the present owner been playing with it, this also means that its a Turbo-Hybrid dodge...
If im right from my readings, they take a DOHC neon head and bolt it too a regular 2.2 head, and then not only do they have a DOHC but a 2.5 engine which was found in the more "Luxurious" cars. dynastys... minivans and such... wow... even more for $1000... LUCKY *** MOFO :D

jOe

Joe seems to have mixed feelings or maybe a problem expressing himself, but I think what he's trying to say is BUY IT ALREADY!!!! :D

Have you gotten a settlement from the insurance company on your totaled SC?

Let us see some more pics if you get it.

David

supercharged24

10-02-2004, 09:26 AM

EDIT-was a double post on accident :o

supercharged24

10-02-2004, 09:28 AM

I will definetly get some more pictures if I get it! We are probably go check it out on Sunday. This whole 2.5L thing...does that mean it won't have the HG and timing belt problems that were brought up earlier? If it still does should I change these when I get it or should I wait until something goes wrong? The only bad parts he said about the car in the ad is "No radio, no AC, no cruise, has power steering leak" When I talk to him I will ask about the PS leak, the other 3 I am not concerned with right now..I will put a radio in later.

About the Neon head bolted to the 2.2L head or something, all it says in the ad is it is out of the 89...could it simply be that the 89 was a 2.5L Turbo I? I don't know, maybe he only thinks it is a 2.5? I will find out when I talk to him later. Thanks for all the help..

I haven't gotten a settlement yet from the SC, We hired an attorney, Aaron Sachs. Extremely great laywer in Missouri. :D

supercharged24

10-02-2004, 09:37 AM

Here is a picture of the engine bay....kinda dirty...

Do these cars have a stock boost gauge? If not, how hard would it be to install one? Thanks

EDIT-Called him a little while ago, it has a boost gauge already. He said the pwoer steering leak isn't bad at all. Tranny shifts smooth. He said as it sits right now it'll run 13's. I don't know low mid or high, was too excited to ask :D I will be meeting him to check the car out tomorrow. First mod will probably be a BOV (Blow Off Valve) and Exhuast. I hope it really does 13's like he said, that is soo awesome! wouldn't be too hard to get it into 12's maybe 11's :cool:

MIKE 38sc

10-02-2004, 02:55 PM

That looks like a turbo 1 engine to me, its hard to tell from the small picture but all 2.5's were turbo 1 unless they were converted.
Turbo 1 systems are a draw through system meaning the throttle body is on the intake side of the turbo compressor(just like the SC). There is NO blow off valve used on those systems.(Why is everybody hungup on BOV's being some kinda big mod for a turbo car? there not!)
Watch the HG's on any bimetal engine(Aluminum head and iron block) because they ALL fail eventualy. I would'nt just change out the HG unless its blown. The job is not 1/10th of the job it is on the SC.
Go to www.thedodgegarage.com and you will find all the info you need on ALL the different engine and turbo combo's, theres more than just turbo 1 and 2.

EDIT: NO a Neon head will NOT fit a 2.2 or a 2.5 block, 2.2 and 2.5 parts are interchangeable but NOTHING from the Neon engine will work on either of these engines.

supercharged24

10-02-2004, 03:08 PM

He said that the motor came out of I think a LaBaron or something. I am really excited to see if it really does 13's. About the BOV, I just think it sounds cool, and it relieves pressure on the turbo..

The HGs blow a lot on the 2.5's too? What should I do to check to make sure it's not blow? Check the oil and coolent to make sure they are not mixed. What else? Thanks

MIKE 38sc

10-02-2004, 03:29 PM

The HGs blow a lot on the 2.5's too? What should I do to check to make sure it's not blow? Check the oil and coolent to make sure they are not mixed. What else? Thanks

They blow alot on ALL Bimetal engines regardless as to who makes them. Just check and make sure the engine does not start to overheat the faster you drive and check for air bubbles going into the recovery bottle after you have finished your test drive.

getblown

10-02-2004, 09:57 PM

EDIT: NO a Neon head will NOT fit a 2.2 or a 2.5 block, 2.2 and 2.5 parts are interchangeable but NOTHING from the Neon engine will work on either of these engines.

Yes it does... its a lot of work, coolant flow and the distributor replacement... but it will fit...

jOe

92redsc

10-02-2004, 10:49 PM

you do know the car is on ebay right?

supercharged24

10-03-2004, 10:09 AM

Yes, I do. He is taking it off later today. That is where I found it. We are buying it later. :D As long as it runs good and all. Then I will take more pictures tomorrow probably. :cool: :cool: :cool:

supercharged24

10-03-2004, 06:07 PM

Well I am kinda disappointed, my dad didn't get the car. He paid the guy $950 for it after test driving it, then went to get in it and it wouldnt start, he could push start it but he said if it was already giving him problems then he is going to take it as a sign that we shouldnt get it :( Maybe it is for the best though. He said it was definitly a high 12 second car with the right driver. Said it spun more wheels in 3rd than most mustangs do in 1st :eek: I would have loved that car! But I guess it is back to looking for a car :(

Scott Long

10-03-2004, 06:37 PM

go to autozone and buy a starter for it for like 60 bucks, change it in 20 minutes. I used to have a 2.5L mopar.

MIKE 38sc

10-03-2004, 08:28 PM

Well your dad does have a point there as most of the remaining ones on the road have been flogged pretty good. But Scott has a good point as well those cars are CHEAP to fix and super easy to work on. I've even put rod bearings in my motors in less than 1 hour. Do that in an SC!!!! LOL!!!!

Scott Long

10-03-2004, 09:39 PM

yeah those 2.5L's sure do make some noise in the bottom end when they get around 100k miles. Mine was very noisy. Ran good, got good gas mileage, but sounded like a damn diesel. If I had kept it I was gonna rebuild the bottom end, and put in new bearings and piston rings.

supercharged24

10-04-2004, 12:59 AM

I think I am going to end up getting a truck with a 350 in it....Extremely reliable, durable, and easy to work on. Plus it has plenty of power. :rolleyes:

ThunderDave

10-04-2004, 06:58 AM

Sorry things didn't work out with the Dodge. Could have been an easy fix, as stated above by Mike and Scott. Good luck in your search for whatever you end up getting.

David

cudaz101

10-05-2004, 05:43 AM

getblown

10-05-2004, 10:02 AM

I had an 86 Shelby Charger...2.2 Turbo...I put a decent cam in it and had some head porting done...It was never anything like my SC...It was pretty fast but nowhere near the power IMO...

I never did any Turbo mods though...I can tell ya in stock form they are nowhere near the SC or Stang though...BTW...Mine was fresh when I got it with only 20K on it back in 89. The trans took a dump at 80K and I traded it in on my 90SC in 93.

Brad

Something was seriously wrong with you 86 Shelby Charger because it would have put my 93SC in the ground... I could spin through second and into 3rd if i avoided wheel hop...if not, it would just knock my rearview on my leg and id curse it out

jOe

cudaz101

10-05-2004, 10:21 AM

Something was seriously wrong with you 86 Shelby Charger because it would have put my 93SC in the ground... I could spin through second and into 3rd if i avoided wheel hop...if not, it would just knock my rearview on my leg and id curse it out

jOe

I think there is something wrong with your SC...hahaha

My Shelby was fresh and somewhat impressive for what it was...But not to the tune of spanking SC's and Stangs...My Buddies lil hppoed up 70's V-6 Capri spanked the Shelby as well...I recall being thrilled that I never had to downshift up grades to really get some speed going too...

I think they made like 180hp or something?? No TQ to brag about...I guess we agree to disagree...

Brad

ThunderDave

10-06-2004, 06:49 AM

BTW, Dodge is bringing back the Charger in 2006. Can be seen at www.caranddriver.com

David

getblown

10-06-2004, 12:19 PM

I think there is something wrong with your SC...hahaha

My Shelby was fresh and somewhat impressive for what it was...But not to the tune of spanking SC's and Stangs...My Buddies lil hppoed up 70's V-6 Capri spanked the Shelby as well...I recall being thrilled that I never had to downshift up grades to really get some speed going too...

I think they made like 180hp or something?? No TQ to brag about...I guess we agree to disagree...

Brad

Well either way, my 87 was fast as ****, mabye it was the early style computer ;) in it...

Charger revival... ewww and that is definitly not the charger were talking about hehe... with a little clear coat fading off, this is exactly what my 87 looked like... :(
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/283000-283999/283536_2.jpg

jOe