who all runs 12's?

[5speedxr7]

can any one who has run 12's give and estimated cost as too how much it you spent on your car to get it there?
thanks alot i'm trying to settle a dispute on another forum

[T-bird4vr]

Rank: Elapsed Time: MPH: Name:
Year of Car:
Date of Run:
Track Name:
Altitude:

Power Adder: Rear Suspension: Time Slip:
# 1 10.852 127.050 Coy Miller
1990
auto
11/01/2004
Norwalk Raceway Park
853 feet nitrous IRS time slip
# 2 11.122 117.770 Christopher Wise
1993
auto
09/27/2003
Mid-America Raceway
550 feet 90 HP shot of NOS IRS time slip
# 3 11.619 119.420 David Neibert
1991
auto
10/24/2004
Mid-America Raceway
550 feet Nitrous IRS time slip
# 4 11.705 114.950 Kevin Leitem
1990
auto
11/06/2004
Pittsburgh Raceway Park
1210 feet IRS time slip
# 5 11.755 119.890 Gary Kuhn
1992
manual
11/08/2003
Maple Grove Raceway
548 feet Nitrous IRS time slip
# 6 11.911 112.665 Jim Demmitt
1990
auto
04/17/2003
Sacramento Raceway Park
50 feet IRS time slip
# 7 12.196 115.700 Connie Dalke
1990 Cougar XR7
manual
08/17/2004
Dragway 42
700 feet IRS time slip
# 8 12.456 109.740 Dan Sly
1991
manual
08/13/2004
Milan Dragway
600 feet IRS time slip
# 9 12.493 112.500 Neil Frisbie
1990

08/31/1997
National Trail Raceway
911 feet Nitrous Oxide IRS time slip
# 10 12.522 108.450 Andy Erickson
1991
auto
10/24/2004
Byron Dragway
756 feet IRS time slip
# 11 12.541 108.960 Mark Kovalcik
1990 Cougar XR7
auto
10/19/2003
Lapeer International Dragway
600 feet IRS time slip
# 12 12.586 107.958 John Shelton
1989
auto
01/04/2003
Sacramento Raceway Park
50 feet IRS time slip
# 13 12.776 107.320 Kurt Kreisz
1992
auto
08/11/2004
Gateway International Raceway
413 feet IRS time slip
# 14 12.782 110.060 Steve Griffith
1993
manual
10/27/2000
Montgomery Motorsports Park
171 feet IRS time slip
# 15 12.878 107.670 Mike Puckett
1990
manual
09/06/2003
Atlanta Dragway
1100 feet IRS time slip
# 16 12.888 107.990 Chris Mendola
1995
auto
03/24/2001
Gateway International Raceway
413 feet IRS time slip
# 17 12.951 110.370 Bill McNeil
1993
manual
07/02/2004
Toronto Motorsports Park
600 feet IRS time slip
# 18 12.980 104.710 Stan Wodzisz
1990 Cougar XR7
auto
10/13/2000
Norwalk Raceway Park
853 feet

[5speedxr7]

thanks. i was just curious of how much these guys are putting into there cars money wise in order to acceve these times. thanks again

[T-bird4vr]

I would assume without using n20 it would be ~3k.

[David Neibert]

I would assume without using n20 it would be ~3k.

times 10 and then some.

David

[aplvlydrtybird]

im in the 13's and ive spent about 6k so far, but thats rebuilding stuff too, for some reason time and lots of miles dont go well when you wanna go fast

[SCme94]

I would assume without using n20 it would be ~3k

Woah Julian...I must have done something wrong. I spent over $5500 just to go from 13.90's to 12.90's. :rolleyes:
I think I need to buy more parts used :)

[XR7 Dave]

Julian, put down the crack pipe and slowly back away.

[Jeremy_K]

can any one who has run 12's give and estimated cost as too how much it you spent on your car to get it there?
thanks alot i'm trying to settle a dispute on another forum
where did you get the air dam on your cougar?

[CMac89]

I probably run around a 13.5 to a 13.7 slowest, and I have spent about $1300 on my car. I think i can get into 12's without nitrous and $5,000 more. I havent even ported my blower yet, but i have a MP inlet.

[5speedxr7]

where did you get the air dam on your cougar?
it was on the car when i bought it. thats all i know. sorry

[ricardoa1]

I probably run around a 13.5 to a 13.7 slowest, and I have spent about $1300 on my car. I think i can get into 12's without nitrous and $5,000 more. I havent even ported my blower yet, but i have a MP inlet.

Unless you run it and know for sure that the car runs 13.5 dont guess, it takes money to make these cars go fast and feel in the but will trick you. Go out there and know for sure that you can run that fast. I know ive been discuraged thinking my car ran fast and ends up being slower that I though.

[T-bird4vr]

bah humbug, that sucks. Well I suspose I will have ~6k in mine a damn blower ever shows up. I guess I really just didin't want to think about it. Why haven't I put a 5.0 in there yet?..

[XR7 Dave]

Heads/cam $1500
Tuning $800
nitrous $750
tires $350
exhaust $500
fuel system/intake parts $650
Ported 95 blower and inlet $500

I think a person could run 12's for about $5000 if nothing breaks. I think Fast92 is probably the fastest low budget SC out there right now at 12.7-8.

[David Neibert]

Why haven't I put a 5.0 in there yet?..

Julian,

They aren't any cheaper to make fast, especially if your planning to exceed 500 rwhp. But they do have alot more power potential and a bunch of aftermarket support.

David

[90blkbrd]

bah humbug, that sucks. Well I suspose I will have ~6k in mine a damn blower ever shows up. I guess I really just didin't want to think about it. Why haven't I put a 5.0 in there yet?..


You wouldn't get to hear that wonderful blower whine.

[5speedxr7]

thanks for your input. your conferming what i though.
see on another forum this kid said he wanted to run 12's with his 93 cougar and a 5.0 well any way here is thet link
http://www.cougarnuts.com/board/showthread.php?t=13738&page=1&pp=15
this guy imperial thinks taht it dosn't take much money to get cars to run 12's or higher. if you got the time check it out. and let me know if i'm in the wrong.
thanks guys

[XR7 Dave]

I'm not going to read through all that crap but I know of one stroked 5.0 (347) with a 150 shot that runs low 12's. It's a lot more car than a little 16yr old punk could handle too. :)

[Jason Wild]

I'm with you Dave to much crap to read there I would need a 6 pack just to read it all. :p
No kid at 16 needs that.

[Blown347]

Any time any place. Get spanked .




347 SC non supercharged

[mfewtrail]

Any time any place. Get spanked .




347 SC non supercharged

Can I borrow my friends Stang'? Also a naturally aspirated 347 stroker.

[Blown347]

Can I borrow my friends Stang'? Also a naturally aspirated 347 stroker.


As long as it weighs in at 3800 pounds and has 2 12W6 JL Subs in the trunk.
sure

:>

The Novi 2000 is going on here in a few weeks so it will not be without
a blower for much longer.

[MagpoweredSC]

Bring on your wittle six.
Any time any place. Get spanked .

tell that to coy miller. :D
Chris love that tranny thanks again.

[tim]

I will tell you how much more it takes to get in the 12s by spring. My guess is that its going to take another $4000 to get into the really low 12s. More converter, gear and a better blower. Thats on top of the $5000 I already have in the car. Not sure about the I quit counting a while back.Sure you can build a v8 cheaper that will go faster but there is nothing like beating a car that they think will beat you.

[Kevin Leitem]

Any time any place. Get spanked .




347 SC non supercharged


I'll run ya with my wittle six all 234 C.I. and we will see who gets the spankin! lol

[aplvlydrtybird]

I will tell you how much more it takes to get in the 12s by spring. My guess is that its going to take another $4000 to get into the really low 12s. More converter, gear and a better blower. Thats on top of the $5000 I already have in the car. Not sure about the I quit counting a while back.Sure you can build a v8 cheaper that will go faster but there is nothing like beating a car that they think will beat you.

yea its worth it to leave the six in it and do a v8 in something else, i love telling 5.0 l and 4..6l mustangs that i got a 3.8 after i beat them:)

[MagpoweredSC]

an sc with a 5.0 is like taking a 67 GT-500 and, pulling the 428, and putting in a new 460 or 351 stroker cuz they make more performance parts for the 460 or 351 based engines, it's just not right.

[aplvlydrtybird]

an sc with a 5.0 is like taking a 67 GT-500 and, pulling the 428, and putting in a new 460 or 351 stroker cuz they make more performance parts for the 460 or 351 based engines, it's just not right.


AMEN, and btw 67 gt-500 = best car in the world

[T-bird4vr]

an sc with a 5.0 is like taking a 67 GT-500 and, pulling the 428, and putting in a new 460 or 351 stroker cuz they make more performance parts for the 460 or 351 based engines, it's just not right.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seems like in this months MMFF they have a 4.6NA at 427hp (crank I believe). It is just a lot more freakin potential. I'm not saying I will ditch the 3.8 anytime soon, but I would sure as hell drive a 5.0 SC. I do like having stuff no one else has though.

[aplvlydrtybird]

it would be cool, but to each his own

[MagpoweredSC]

AMEN, and btw 67 gt-500 = best car in the world
Yeah they are awesome the only way i'll get one is if my dad gives me his (bought one and restored it like 16 years ago). It's his fault i'm into cars, but everytime i modify it(my sc) he flips out cuz he likes stock stuff, but his gt500 and 69 cjr mach 1 are both modified under the valve covers and cams, but externally looking stock.

[David Neibert]

an sc with a 5.0 is like taking a 67 GT-500 and, pulling the 428, and putting in a new 460 or 351 stroker cuz they make more performance parts for the 460 or 351 based engines, it's just not right.

Then your gonna hate what I've done to the 93 SC I bought last winter.

David

[MagpoweredSC]

Then your gonna hate what I've done to the 93 SC I bought last winter.

David
Dave your supercoupe is awesome and your turbo v8 in a sc body :D will be awesome, but in all reality i am much more impressed with an 4,000lb 11 sec 6 cyl(and now with coy's 10.85) than a 10 sec or even a 9 sec v8. But that turbo 347 engine is going to rip. Did you have to cut anything to get the turbo to fit? What kind of turbo are you going to run by the way?


Mark

[David Neibert]

Dave your supercoupe is awesome and your turbo v8 in a sc body :D will be awesome, but in all reality i am much more impressed with an 4,000lb 11 sec 6 cyl(and now with coy's 10.85) than a 10 sec or even a 9 sec v8. But that turbo 347 engine is going to rip. Did you have to cut anything to get the turbo to fit? What kind of turbo are you going to run by the way?


Mark

Mark,

I've still got the 11 second 6 cylinder in the next garage bay. (see pics below)


We had to cut and weld the crap out of the K-member and elevate the motor an inch to clear the 8 quart pan they had to use with the dart block. But with a little cutting it still fit under the stock hood. The turbo isn't installed yet, but yes there will be more cutting required in the area the air box is now located to make room for the IC pipes going to and from the intercooler.

HP in Roswell NM is building and installing a custom turbo system with tubular headers, 76mm turbo and FMIC. They will also be installing a new custom exhaust system. I don't think they will be ready for the car until after the first of the year.

David

[MagpoweredSC]

Mark,

I've still got the 11 second 6 cylinder in the next garage bay. (see pics below)


We had to cut and weld the crap out of the K-member and elevate the motor an inch to clear the 8 quart pan they had to use with the dart block. But with a little cutting it still fit under the stock hood. The turbo isn't installed yet, but yes there will be more cutting required in the area the air box is now located to make room for the IC pipes going to and from the intercooler.

HP in Roswell NM is building and installing a custom turbo system with tubular headers, 76mm turbo and FMIC. They will also be installing a new custom exhaust system. I don't think they will be ready for the car until after the first of the year.

David

Awesome and i knew you still had your sc
when i get my sc in the 11's i might do something like you but i think i might make a big horse 408 turbo or sc pretty much just for drag racing but that will be like 5-10 years from now :rolleyes: but i will always love the that little engine that could.

Mark

[tim]

David as usual is being modest. I would venture to say that turbo v8 is going to have everybody that owns a m12 awe struck. If 550 hp.=10.85 what do you think 800+ hp. is going to do? I will make the trip down to Gateway to watch that bad boy make a pass. David did you buy your fire suit yet?

[Kurt K]

David as usual is being modest. I would venture to say that turbo v8 is going to have everybody that owns a m12 awe struck. If 550 hp.=10.85 what do you think 800+ hp. is going to do? I will make the trip down to Gateway to watch that bad boy make a pass. David did you buy your fire suit yet?
You better come out for the first trip to the track then, because they might not let him come back after his first pass.

[David Neibert]

Now that the NHRA rules have changed to allow running as quick as 11.49 before needing a roll bar and harness, I'll be able to make a bunch of passes testing everything and figuring out how to drive it.

Since MAR has closed down, I can't risk getting banned at Gateway until I'm sure it can run 10s. That will probably take the better part of next year, so I wouldn't bother making any special trips to see it race.

All I care about is that it's race ready by the Shootout, because Chris Lazzo and I swore an oath (okay...it was more like wishing out loud after drinking a bunch of beers) that we were both bringing faster cars than Coy and Mike next year.

David

[Randy N Connie]

David N. there may be more than just Coy M. & Mike S.To worry about
being the fastest at the next shootout. :)

RANDY

[tim]

If I wasnt so afraid of the stuff I would just put a nitrous kit on my car and get into the 12 bracket. I have a few small mods planned this winter to try and hit. 12.99. If they dont work then its probably going to be a better blower for me. i want to walk away from the new cobra mustangs and see that dumb look on there faces.

[David Neibert]

David N. there may be more than just Coy M. & Mike S.To worry about
being the fastest at the next shootout. :)

RANDY

Randy,

I'll be happy just to have a car that runs right on race day.

David

[XR7 Dave]

Methingks its friday and you are all drunk. :D

[Blown347]

Methingks its friday and you are all drunk. :D


Im always -d-runk--------------when i p-o---------------st- s-o-m-t--hing----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I"LL RACE JOHN fORCE NOW


Dave Dimonds are forever :)

Laz PuP

[tim]

Drunk was this afternoon trying to get rid of a bad cold with polish brandy. I still have the cold but dont care. What all do you have to do if you run tens?