Reproduction Brake Lines

[Kern Fischer]

When I checked my Ford dealer recently, they indicated that the flexible brake lines (Body to caliper) were no longer available through the parts system. Our rubber lines are getting old and may be cracking on some cars.

I wanted to replace my rubber lines with braided stainless steel flex lines as I occasionally use the car on road racing tracks. Goodridge showed a listing for the car but when it came down to ordering, they did not have parts and had no design data to make them. If anyone knows another source, please advise.

If they are not available, I am an automotive engineer and am considering reproducing the brake lines. How many of you other owners might be interested in new, reproduction brake lines with braided stainless flexible sections? I do not have a projected price yet so if you could indicate an approximate amount that you would consider paying, I can determine whether we can produce them for a price you consider fair. Also, the more interest, the lower we can make the price as volume affects pricing.

You can respond to the posting or directly to my e-mail address: klfischer-satcar@msn.com.

Thank you for any interest.

Kern Fischer

[Mike8675309]

I, for one would be very interested.

[XR7 Dave]

I think this is a good idea. There are several ways that a person can go about getting steel braided lines for our cars and making something work, but to have something offered that is drop-in guaranteed to fit would be very nice. I will need a couple sets over time. I think about $100 is typical for a complete set. Yes, no?

[jordansypek]

This place has a sick inventory of everything you guys are talking about.

http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/

I got all my braided lines for my 5spd swap from there...

They sent me a PDF Catalog of all their lines and fittings etc, I can't find it online right now...

[Dirtyd0g]

I paid for braided lines to 3 different places and got refunded from everyone because they cannot even be made( I was told) I ended up ordering a set of rubber ones from rockauto.com. If you find a source for braided fill us in I gave up the search after about 3 weeks.
Alan

[racecougar]

I'd probably be interested in at least one full set.

-Rod

[Kern Fischer]

To: jordansypek
When you ordered your brake lines from Porterfield, were they complete duplicate bolt on units or were they they just the flex lines and fittings that you had to adapt to your existing hard lines?

[Birdman93]

If you need hose or belt products, this place is a good one to call-they can fab just about anything!

http://www.apachehb.com/index.htm

[Dick Hughes]

QUOTE=Kern Fischer]When I checked my Ford dealer recently, they indicated that the flexible brake lines (Body to caliper) were no longer available through the parts system. Our rubber lines are getting old and may be cracking on some cars.

I wanted to replace my rubber lines with braided stainless steel flex lines as I occasionally use the car on road racing tracks. Goodridge showed a listing for the car but when it came down to ordering, they did not have parts and had no design data to make them. If anyone knows another source, please advise.

If they are not available, I am an automotive engineer and am considering reproducing the brake lines. How many of you other owners might be interested in new, reproduction brake lines with braided stainless flexible sections? I do not have a projected price yet so if you could indicate an approximate amount that you would consider paying, I can determine whether we can produce them for a price you consider fair. Also, the more interest, the lower we can make the price as volume affects pricing.

You can respond to the posting or directly to my e-mail address: klfischer-satcar@msn.com.

Thank you for any interest.

Kern Fischer[/QUOTE]

tirerack.com lists Goodridge G-stop brakeline kit for the SC. Kit includes rear disc lines. Price $153

[Dirtyd0g]

Tire rack was the first company to refund my money to me when they realized they could not actualy get them. Raceshopper.com did the same.
Pricewise if good quality hoses could be made i am sure they would be worth at least $100 a set. I would buy them at that price.
Alan

[joenintiesc]

For a cost in the low $100 range I would order a set!

[Kern Fischer]

I checked with my Tire Rack rep today and he confirmed that Goodridge does not have SC brake lines available, even though they are listed in the catalog.

Thinking about the pricing responses that you are offering, I believe that in the quantities that I can project, getting complete replacement lines for anywhere near $ 100 is going to be very difficult, if not impossible. The special end fittings and pre-bent hard line portions alone are going to require some tooling and/or special machining.

If I can create a kit of some sort that would use the existing hard line portions and just replace the flex lines, that would be less expensive, but more work to install and more prone to error during installation.

Your thoughts please.

Kern Fischer
89 SC Stick

[PurpleHaze]

I would rather be placing all new and never re-using such things ;)
Just think "IT would last the life time of your SC"
.02cents

[quick35th]

I would be very interested in ordering a few sets. They would be good for road racers since they are much stronger and can disipate heat better than rubber.

Shane

[Mike8675309]

It was my understanding that braided stainless steel lines are really rubber with a stainless steel fabric wrapped around them. The rubber contains the fluid, the stainless steel restricts the ability of the rubber to expand when under pressure. (I'm not sure that the hose is actually rubber, probably some fabric mesh coated with a rubber like material)

If that's the case, I don't think any heat is going to be leaving any faster.

Here we go, here is what they are made of:
Stainless Steel lines (they are actually hoses, but we’ll use the common term “lines” from this point forward in this FAQ) are similar to OEM hoses in function, but differ greatly in execution. Unlike OEM hoses, SS lines incorporate a low-compliance Teflon inner hose. In addition, instead of covering the Teflon with overmolded rubber a woven braid of Stainless Steel strands is placed over the hose for protection. As with an OEM hose, the ends are terminated with hollow fasteners to allow for the leak-free passage of brake fluid.

[Thomas A]

Count me in!

Thomas

[Randy N Connie]

Did any thing ever happin n cutom lines
.I would buy a pair for the front and back.
I would want the rear to be all flexable.
And to fit cobra calipers.
Thanks Randy

[Jason Wild]

I know this is old anyway we can get something going?

[Jason Wild]

Just to let people know I emailed a place that said they will make sets so I will post back and see where we can go.

[Randy N Connie]

This swap would be easy to do.I am going to look into picking up some parts today.for my cobra brake swap.

You just need new blocks bolted to the fender

Randy

[Jason Wild]

Randy,
Are you woking on something to make up new sets of lines.
Just got info back that this place will look at making a set of lines for us.

[Randy N Connie]

I am doing some for myself.I just wanted to let you know the easiest
& cheapest way.I have had many custom brake lines made for bikes.

You just need to forget the stock one peice brake line design from
Ford.From the caliper to the three way block on the drivers side.
And the two way block attached to the fender well,on the passenger side.
This is for the rear brakes.Same principle for the front.

Make new blocks separate from the brake lines.Then you can get
a brake line that fits the caliper.And the new blocks.

I have no plans to make or sell any thing here.I have many parts that
could be made available.Its just not worth it to me to put up
with jaw jackin from a few vendors. (Admin Edit.)

The lines needed ,are all ready available.Just need to buy
common two way and three way block for the fender wells.
attach old brackets or make new brackets.I will be using
the old brackets.And brass block that I machine.

You just need brake lines with fitting to fit calipers.Then
thread the block to fit the other end of the new brake line.
And of course the proper length brake line.

I just brought it up so you or someone would jump to get this done for
others.I was going to pass on to Dave D.But cannot get ahold of him.
If you need any help give me a holler.Good luck Randy

[quick35th]

Hmm I still like this idea of yours Randy. I think for my setup though I am going to go over to TrueChoice and pick up an adjustable porportioning valve for my 35th so I can dial in the brakes front to back to better aid in the balance of the car during braking.

Shane

[Randy N Connie]

Hmm I still like this idea of yours Randy. I think for my setup though I am going to go over to TrueChoice and pick up an adjustable porportioning valve for my 35th so I can dial in the brakes front to back to better aid in the balance of the car during braking.

Shane

An adjustable brakes would be a good idea for you.Since
you plan to do some twisties.And I think I read where you
were getting rid of the ABS for a cheaper & more manageable
braking system for your performance goals.

Shane will you be able to make the bash in WI this year?
It would be nice to talk with you again.

Thanks Randy

[quick35th]

Randy I dont plan to swap over to manual brakes but I do have everything to do so if I wanted to. When is the Bash and where at in WI is it this year? I will try to make it depending on when it is.

Shane

[Mike8675309]

This got no where? Or did it?

[Jason Wild]

there is some talk over on the TCCOA about this but again not going any place.

[Thomas A]

I am actually working with a company right now for Mark VIII lines, and I am pretty certian they will transfer over to the SC. I am going to have them look at the SC ones also. I should have an answer shortly.

Thomas