View Full Version : Replacement Leather/Suede Seat Covers 89-95 SC's
Rich Thomson
01-19-2005, 05:55 PM
Now available :eek:
Replacement leather/suede or all leather seat covers available for 1989-1995 SC 6 way power front and split and non split rear fold seats. Sold as a complete front and rear set these seat covers replace the factory leather or leather/cloth seat covers. Replace your old worn factory seat covers with new leather even if you have leather/cloth seats with non split fold. Available options are two tone leather or leather/suede with or without piping and 2 or 4 seat Embroidering is available for extra fee. Rear seat pocket is optional for all front seats. Rear split 60/40 seats have matching carpet on back. Suede cannot be ordered in perforated style. Seat covers reuse the factory metal rods to reattach the covers to the cushions with hog rings. Pricing is as follows and is subject to change. $550 for vinyl with leather seat bottom and back only the center inserts are leather or $625 for leather & leather seating surface plus $25 per option like suede, perforated leather and embroidering. No extra charge for two tone color or piping. Email us if you are interested. richt@mn12performance.com
Pictures are coming next month with full tear down and install instructions.
Currently available is this Thunderbird wing logo. Text is also available. If you have line art in JPG let us know we will get it scanned for totally custom seats. Copyrighted logos cannot be done.
http://www.mn12performance.com/images/mn12-tbird-wing-logo-sm.jpg
http://www.mn12performance.com/images/tbird-logo-seat-pic-sm.jpg
MN12 Performance Inc.
4110 Plaza Lane
Fairfax, VA 22033
richt@mn12performance.com
703-968-6513
CaifanSC
01-19-2005, 06:36 PM
Thats is awesome news! Price is more than reasonable, cheapest one i've seen personally. Im assuming that this is regardless of model of seats (early vs late). Will perforated leather be offered? U rock Rich!
Mike8675309
01-19-2005, 10:43 PM
What are the chances of getting 35th Anni seat covers duplicated? Perfs, Suede, and the piping in the proper colors?
All and all it sounds very interesting.
Conan56
01-19-2005, 11:44 PM
Id prob Jump on a set
I would be interested in a anny replica set also
Seuss
01-20-2005, 03:05 AM
Will a cloth set be offered as well?
hellakornhaus
01-20-2005, 12:17 PM
Is the $550 or $625 for both front seats and entire rear seat (including the piece going around the seat)? If so, where do I send the money (when I have it)? :)
-Kornhaus
cowtown
01-20-2005, 03:31 PM
Damn, that's nice. Hmm I may have to consider this. My seats are fairly good outside of the one bolster though I know a guy who knows a guy who can fix it for $50. ;)
I'd like a set but exhaust must come first!. :)
Rich Thomson
01-20-2005, 07:18 PM
What are the chances of getting 35th Anni seat covers duplicated? Perfs, Suede, and the piping in the proper colors?
All and all it sounds very interesting.
Working on just that today. The Black leather and blue piping is no problem. I got some suede samples and the color Natural seems to be the same color as the 35th seats. Perforated seude is not an option. The 35th seats will be a Facsimile not a exact replica.
Rich Thomson
01-20-2005, 07:20 PM
Will a cloth set be offered as well?
No cloth will be available. Suede and perforated leater seating surface material is the only choices.
Rich Thomson
01-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Is the $550 or $625 for both front seats and entire rear seat (including the piece going around the seat)? If so, where do I send the money (when I have it)? :)
-Kornhaus
I thought I made that clear? Front and rear seats are included in the prices.
SCrazy
01-21-2005, 10:16 AM
Rich:
This looks like an awesome option. I don't know alot about upolstery (not even sure I spelled it right) but how do the fit quality of these compare to taking the seats to be recovered at a shop?
I guess my opinion has always been that premanufactured covers never quite fit perfect but these look to be better.
Any comment...
Thanks
Rich Thomson
01-21-2005, 04:41 PM
These seat covers are made from the measurements of the OEM covers. Each OEM cover is taken apart (all stitching is removed) and measured so the replacements are an exact fit.
Rich
Mike8675309
01-21-2005, 04:48 PM
Perforated seude is not an option. The 35th seats will be a Facsimile not a exact replica.
That could be an issue for some owners I'm sure. I had a line on a company that could supply "semi"-perferated suede (it had a backing that wasn't perfed) but it was only available in full rolls of material and it wasn't cheap.
I'm sure others would like anything that gets it close.
Rich Thomson
01-22-2005, 10:28 AM
The SC Font I am going to have reproduced is below. I like the circle around the SC plus it holds true to the origional SC steering wheel logo design. 2" diameter for head rests and 3" diameter for seat backs. If anyone else has a different font reply here.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/SC_logo.JPG
CaifanSC
01-22-2005, 01:42 PM
I would say that the logo with the circle is good. It would look more factory-like since the same emblem is in our steering wheels...early and late model. Also, a suggestion...why not use the anniversary logo, or have it as an option. It looks very good...now, you can include the 'anniversary thunderbird' text for the 35ths...if prefered, or remove the text for all other sc's. Just my 2 cents.
JOE91SC
01-22-2005, 04:59 PM
No cloth will be available. Suede and perforated leater seating surface material is the only choices.
Would you have some pics on the material? (Suede / perf leather.. both in blk )
Rich Thomson
01-22-2005, 06:15 PM
I would say that the logo with the circle is good. It would look more factory-like since the same emblem is in our steering wheels...early and late model. Also, a suggestion...why not use the anniversary logo, or have it as an option. It looks very good...now, you can include the 'anniversary thunderbird' text for the 35ths...if prefered, or remove the text for all other sc's. Just my 2 cents.
When doing embroidering think line art. The 35th logo is very complicated. It would look really bad if you tried to get all the letters to show up. My suggestion would be to simplify the logo by removing the lettering and just go with the basic shape line art shape. The same goes for the 40th anniversary logo. Both of thoes are copyrighted by Ford.
Some people wanted to know what color Blue was offered. Here is the color blue I have available. No other blue available. Royal Blue is available in perforated style.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/royalblue.JPG
I have a number of questions:-
Will factory colors like titanium be available for the leather and the vinyl non-seating areas? I’m asking specifically about titanium for the earlier models as it is somewhat similar to the gray found on the later models which is not suitable for my interior.
Can you post pictures of the leather, perforated leather, and vinyl, showing the texture of the material? Any foam backing for the leather?
Is the stitching the same as the original with parallel pairs of lines in the seatback and bottom (on the earlier models)?
In what color thread are the logos embroidered? Can they be done on perforated leather or will the leather get weakened?
Rich Thomson
01-24-2005, 06:48 PM
I have a number of questions:-
Will factory colors like titanium be available for the leather and the vinyl non-seating areas? I’m asking specifically about titanium for the earlier models as it is somewhat similar to the gray found on the later models which is not suitable for my interior.
Can you post pictures of the leather, perforated leather, and vinyl, showing the texture of the material? Any foam backing for the leather?
Is the stitching the same as the original with parallel pairs of lines in the seatback and bottom (on the earlier models)?
In what color thread are the logos embroidered? Can they be done on perforated leather or will the leather get weakened?
The origional colors are not available. In most cases only colors available are what the manufacturer has unless you have your own leather.
CLICK HERE FOR LEATHER COLOR SELECTION (http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/leather-colors.html)
The perforated version of the leather uses round pin holes punched in the leather.
No foam backing on the leather or vinyl.
I do not know if the stitching is exactly as the OEM. I will check but again these seat covers are not OEM exact replicas.
Any color thread is available for the embroidering. I have not been told embroidering on perforated leather is not available. The perforations in the leather are pinholes.
As of today I do not have any actual pictures of the seat covers available for posting.
UPDATE
After going over the two seats I have on hand I have compiled a selection of leather and sude colors which are closest to the OEM colors. When I get the other seat covers back from the manufacturer I will post more color choices for different interiors. Matching the color of the leather exactly is not possible but finding a color which compliments the interior is. The seating area is the same as the 35th anniversary style. My photoshop skills are not that good. Here is the logo placement.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/tbird-logo-placement-front.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/tbird-logo-placement-rear.JPG
Replacement 1994-1995 Seat Cover Color options
94-95 OEM Grey Seats
Black Leather
Med Graphite Leather
Black Suede
94-95 OEM Tan Seats
Black Leather
Sandstone Leather
Black Suede
Mushroom Suede
89-93 OEM Black Seats
Black Leather
Black Suede
Mercury Suede (35th look) Silver color
Tomato Leather
89-93 OEM Titanium Seats
Black Leather
Bisque Leather
Bisque Suede
Rich
Rich Thomson
01-26-2005, 04:57 PM
Owners with 35th Anniversary cars. Is the suede perforated on the rear seats too?
Rich
Bisque looks like brown in the Leather Color Selection link. I'm assuming it stands for bisquit.
To forestall unhappy customers, I would suggest that you print each color on a full sheet of paper. Anyone who wants to check the color against his existing upholstery before placing an order can do so by ordering these samples for a fee. Alternatively, sell a piece of leather.
Rich Thomson
01-27-2005, 08:45 AM
Bisque looks like brown in the Leather Color Selection link. I'm assuming it stands for bisquit.
To forestall unhappy customers, I would suggest that you print each color on a full sheet of paper. Anyone who wants to check the color against his existing upholstery before placing an order can do so by ordering these samples for a fee. Alternatively, sell a piece of leather.
I have the original 1989 sales brochue. It has a very large pic of the Titanium interior shown. I have looked over the available colors and the only leather selection even close to the Titanium is the leather color called Bisque. I will say the Bisque is a very light tan color. Leather vs suede in the bisque colors the suede is much lighter thus closer to the Titanium color. Black leather and bisque suede maybe a better choice. There is still the option of finding the correct color leather and having the seats made from that. The manufacturer will make seat covers from customer supplied leather.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/titanium-bisque.JPG
Rich
Rich95XR7
01-27-2005, 10:29 AM
Rich, I just bought a '89 with a torn up driver's seat, so as soon as I get caught up from that, I'll definately be contacting you about a set of 2 tone seat covers, the all black that's in it just doesn't do it for me.
Rich Thomson
01-27-2005, 12:07 PM
Due to the limited color selection the manufacturer offers I have decided to search for the leather from another source. A company called Kraft Automotive Group in MI offers over 100 different colors to choose from. I ordered a color sample from them today. When it arrives I will repost more information on this color search. Until then the colors listed above are always available. :)
joenintiesc
01-27-2005, 01:52 PM
Currently I have all cloth seats in my 90SC. I'd like to replace with a two-tone grey/black combo in leather/suede. Your covers would fit my application, right? (Converting for all cloth to leather/suede?)
Thanks for putting this together Rich, awesome work!
Rich Thomson
01-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Currently I have all cloth seats in my 90SC. I'd like to replace with a two-tone grey/black combo in leather/suede. Your covers would fit my application, right? (Converting for all cloth to leather/suede?)
Thanks for putting this together Rich, awesome work!
Yes replacement seat covers for SC seats with fixed rear seats are available. What color is your interior? Titanuim? Black?
Black leather outside and Mercury suede inside. No problem. Logos or piping?
Rich
joenintiesc
01-27-2005, 08:12 PM
I have the "gray"/black interior, but there seems to be about 5 or 6 different shades of gray, and I have no idea which one mine is called. But I've seen quite a few of those gray cloth interiors the same as mine, so it's a fairly common color code...
I like the T-bird logo and "SC" on the headrest. Plus I like having the storage pouch on the back of the seats. Not sure about the piping?
I wonder how hard it would be to get the those door panel pieces to match up to the seats as well?
Rich Thomson
01-27-2005, 09:17 PM
I have the "gray"/black interior, but there seems to be about 5 or 6 different shades of gray, and I have no idea which one mine is called. But I've seen quite a few of those gray cloth interiors the same as mine, so it's a fairly common color code...
I like the T-bird logo and "SC" on the headrest. Plus I like having the storage pouch on the back of the seats. Not sure about the piping?
I wonder how hard it would be to get the those door panel pieces to match up to the seats as well?
You say grey but grey was not offered for 1990 model year. What is your interior trim code? I'm thinking Titanium interior. The plastic trim on the seat is different than the interior trim. The interior trim is much darker than the seat plastic trim.
Rich
XR7 Dave
01-27-2005, 09:53 PM
You say grey but grey was not offered for 1990 model year. What is your interior trim code? I'm thinking Titanium interior. The plastic trim on the seat is different than the interior trim. The interior trim is much darker than the seat plastic trim.
Rich
If the cloth is charcoal grey, then it is black (or should I say was). The color of your dash is the dead give away. If it has a black dash then it is/was a black interior. Black faded really bad.
joenintiesc
01-27-2005, 11:31 PM
No, this is definately grey. Grey seats, carpet, door panels, interior, but dash, steering wheel, center console are black . I'll check for the codes or post some pics. Might be called "titanium", but looks like grey to me!
XR7 Dave
01-27-2005, 11:43 PM
No, this is definately grey. Grey seats, carpet, door panels, interior, but dash, steering wheel, center console are black . I'll check for the codes or post some pics. Might be called "titanium", but looks like grey to me!
In 1990 there were only 4 interior colors available. Black, titanium (grey), blue, and red. With all colors, all instrument cluster bezels were black, as were the tops of the console and all steering wheels. The part that wouldn't be black would be the vinyl (padded) portion of the dash, the sides of the center console, the carpets, seats, door panels etc. Interiors were not monochromatic until 93 which is also the year that they changed from titanium to actual grey. If your carpets and door panels are grey then it is obviously titanium.
Mike8675309
01-27-2005, 11:54 PM
1989... Titanium seats. Here are some shots of the dash.. kinda:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~miketoni/images/tbird/cupmodpasslook.jpg
Notice the dash pad is titanium.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~miketoni/images/tbird/cupholdermod.jpg
I'm not sure who I'm agreeing with, just thought it would help.
As far as the Suede material... I have some samples from Toray Ultrasuede (America), Inc.
In this post the previous owner of the car I'm buying stated it could be purchased in a whole role and perferated. The samples from Toray Ultrasuede are perfed.
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=283971&postcount=17
Just supplying info.
joenintiesc
01-28-2005, 12:09 AM
Well thanks for clearing that up! I'd been wondering for quite some time what the actual name of my "grey" interior was... Figures it's a name without the word "grey" in it :confused:
Anyway, as far as these new seat covers go, I'd be happy with a color that compliments the existing interior, as opposed to matching it exactly.
quick35th
01-28-2005, 01:00 AM
Owners with 35th Anniversary cars. Is the suede perforated on the rear seats too?
Rich
Yes they are Rich.
Shane
In 1990 there were only 4 interior colors available. Black, titanium (grey), blue, and red. With all colors, all instrument cluster bezels were black, as were the tops of the console and all steering wheels. The part that wouldn't be black would be the vinyl (padded) portion of the dash, the sides of the center console, the carpets, seats, door panels etc. Interiors were not monochromatic until 93 which is also the year that they changed from titanium to actual grey. If your carpets and door panels are grey then it is obviously titanium.
I'm not sure whether your third and fourth sentences referred only to the 90 models, so here's some information on the 89-92 titanium interiors that I've discovered: My stock 92 is "partially monochromatic" with a titanium center console top panel and center armrest, door handle cups and window switch bezels, and the top of the instrument cluster. I have seen titanium instrument cluster bezels, although I don't remember if they were only the more rectangular ones found on Cougars. My stock 89 has two-tone door opening seals with black facing the doors and titanium facing the interior.
XR7 Dave
01-30-2005, 01:03 AM
I'm not sure whether your third and fourth sentences referred only to the 90 models, so here's some information on the 89-92 titanium interiors that I've discovered: My stock 92 is "partially monochromatic" with a titanium center console top panel and center armrest, door handle cups and window switch bezels, and the top of the instrument cluster. I have seen titanium instrument cluster bezels, although I don't remember if they were only the more rectangular ones found on Cougars. My stock 89 has two-tone door opening seals with black facing the doors and titanium facing the interior.
The 92 had a color coded center console cover as you mentioned. However the general color was still titanium. In 93 it became definitely grey and the rest of the interior was more or less monochrome. 92 was also the year the the tweed seats became available. Starting in 92 the Cougars had many subtle differences in their interiors that I won't even get into. :D
Darkside
01-30-2005, 03:19 AM
92 was also the year the the tweed seats became available. :D
Do you mean the two tone seats? My 91 SC has the salt & pepper tweed on the bottom seat, and are split on the seat backs. The bottom half of the seat back is tweed and the top half is vinyl with a thunderbird logo on it.
XR7 Dave
01-30-2005, 04:22 PM
Do you mean the two tone seats? My 91 SC has the salt & pepper tweed on the bottom seat, and are split on the seat backs. The bottom half of the seat back is tweed and the top half is vinyl with a thunderbird logo on it. That is what I mean. The 91 SHOULD have the same fabric and stitching as the 89-90's. I know at least in the leather editions they were exactly the same.
In 92 the bolsters were made smaller so that is something else to look at when comparing seats. I do not have any brochures on 91 SC's, but I know that the 91 XR7 still had the 89-90 upholstery and did NOT come with a tweed option.
Darkside
01-30-2005, 04:37 PM
Here's what they look like.
ben04
01-30-2005, 04:50 PM
what colour are my seats known as?
what colour are my seats known as?
Titanium - somewhere inbetween gray and light brown. Against gray floormats the seats (and carpet) will look brown and against brown floormats they will look gray. The only place that I could find that had the right color for the floormats was Ford.
Rich Thomson
01-31-2005, 10:08 AM
That is what I mean. The 91 SHOULD have the same fabric and stitching as the 89-90's. I know at least in the leather editions they were exactly the same.
In 92 the bolsters were made smaller so that is something else to look at when comparing seats. I do not have any brochures on 91 SC's, but I know that the 91 XR7 still had the 89-90 upholstery and did NOT come with a tweed option.
So were 1992 -1993 seats using the smaller side bolsters? I know the 94-95 seats were using the smaller side bolsters. Two different size headrests 9" and 11". 89-93 seats had the 11" with tilt headrest while the 94-95 had the 9" no tilt headrest. As for seat stitching design 89-93 should all have the same early style stitching. 94-95 has a different stitching design.
XR7 Dave
01-31-2005, 10:46 AM
So were 1992 -1993 seats using the smaller side bolsters? I know the 94-95 seats were using the smaller side bolsters. Two different size headrests 9" and 11". 89-93 seats had the 11" with tilt headrest while the 94-95 had the 9" no tilt headrest. As for seat stitching design 89-93 should all have the same early style stitching. 94-95 has a different stitching design.
Rich, this is where things get really frustrating.
Actually there are no less than 4 different headrests. (!) The 89-90 cloth headrest was stitched from 3 pieces of fabric. The 89-91 leather headrest was larger, and consisted of a leather front and vinyl back and had screwed on plastic cover underneath. The 92-93 leather headrest was roughly the same size as the 89-91 leather one and still tilted but it did not have the plastic cover underneath and instead had those plastic strip clips that hold the leather on. And then there are the 94-95 smaller stationary ones.
There are 3 different size bolsters. The 92 is definitely smaller than the 89-91, but it is significantly bigger than the 94/95.
The 89-92 stitching pattern applies to the velour and leather seats only. Since there seems to be some confusion as to when the tweed fabric began, I will say that the stitching pattern on the leather and velour seats are the same. The seat base for all above mentioned seats are the same.
93 has a unique design. The basic layout of the actual seat remains the same as 92, but the stitching is slightly different on seating surfaces and the leather perforations are different. Another big difference is the back seat. The 93 has the same design seat bottom as the 94/95 with the seat belts coming up through slits in the cushion. 89-92 all have the seat belts coming up between the seat and back.
In 94/95 it is also worth mentioning that the front seat cushion is an entirely different design, not just the stitching, and a 94/95 cover will NOT fit on an 89-93 seat bottom.
How's that for confusing the issue! lol
Rich Thomson
01-31-2005, 08:50 PM
WoW Thanks, Great info.
To add my research to the pot.
1994-1995 Front Seats were the same. The headrests were all 9" wide fixed. That I know. I have 94 and 95 cloth and leather front/rear seats in 60/40 split an non split. 94-95 Rear seat bottoms had the belts come up through the slit in the rear seat. So 1993 cars would use the same covers as the 94-95 rear seats?
But, Cushion engineering numbers I pulled from the bottom and seat backs of my 94 and 95 are F4 part numbers which means 1994 so if they had started using the same cushion in the 1993 car it would have a F3 or 1993 part number. The rear 60/40 seat cushions have E9 or 1989 engineering number in the cushions. So 1989-1995 rear split cushions were the same. The difference was the outside frame. I measured the two outside leather frame covers and there was a difference in leather measurements. Now, for the 1990-1995 Non Split rear fold seats I have pulled the engineering part numbers from the cushions again. The rear non split 94-95 cushions are the same with a F4 or 1994 part number in the cushion back and bottom. The armrest uses the same part number for 89-95. The 1990-1992 or1993(?) I pulled the number from a 1991 seat cushion so 1993 is still in need of further investigation. The rear cushion seat back and bottom part number is E9 or 1989 but the covers were different measurements. It looks to me like a slight change in the headrest area larger on the 90-92(3) vs. the 94-95. 1989 rear seat cushions have a different engineering part number E8 or 1988 which I cannot confirm if the 89-90 rear fixed or split seat covers are interchangeable. Still needs further investigation.
As for the 4 different headrests I know that different stitching was used but what really matters to me is the cushion in the headrest. Stitching designs can change but as long as they use the same headrest cushion replacement covers will fit. My research shows the tilt headrest is a 11" wide headrest using the same cushion. Years 1989-1993 is what I thought used the tilt cushion headrest. You say the 1993 cars had fixed headrests. Still need more investigation. Sounds like the 1993 model year had some of early and late seats cushions.
Rich Thomson
01-31-2005, 09:05 PM
Just to inform everyone we are working very hard to provide same style seat covers that matched the OEM. Stitching, colors, perforations, etc...
As I get the manufacturer to update all the seat cover offerings to match the factory seat covers I know the costs will increase and as I get the revised pricing I will repost it here. Eventually the seat covers will be added to MN12 Performance parts page. The replacement seat covers will be a very important restoration key to any 89-95 SC. When the seat covers are done pictures of them will be added. You will have a hard time believing the seat covers are aftermarket replacement once you see them installed.
Rich
Mike8675309
01-31-2005, 10:05 PM
My 1993 has tweed/leather combo. The rear belts come through slots in the rear seats. The headrests on the front seats tilt. When buying the car I was told it was a 1993 with 1992 interior. I didn't know what the seller was talking about as it looked normal to me.
Just adding to the mystery or perhaps clearing it up.
Rich Thomson
01-31-2005, 10:14 PM
My 1993 has tweed/leather combo. The rear belts come through slots in the rear seats. The headrests on the front seats tilt. When buying the car I was told it was a 1993 with 1992 interior. I didn't know what the seller was talking about as it looked normal to me.
Just adding to the mystery or perhaps clearing it up.
If someone has a 1993 sales brochure please post the available interior colors here. That will make it easier. I already have the 1992 and 1994 sales brochures.
Rich
XR7 Dave
01-31-2005, 10:50 PM
As for the 4 different headrests I know that different stitching was used but what really matters to me is the cushion in the headrest. Stitching designs can change but as long as they use the same headrest cushion replacement covers will fit. My research shows the tilt headrest is a 11" wide headrest using the same cushion. Years 1989-1993 is what I thought used the tilt cushion headrest. You say the 1993 cars had fixed headrests. I didn't say the 93 had a fixed headrest, not sure where that came from.
Regarding the early style headrests, they appear to have different shape with the two stitching patterns. I have both cars so I will check it more closely.
Rich Thomson
02-02-2005, 11:35 AM
This is what I have pulled from my local Dealer.
Front Seat Cushion Back 1990-1993 have same replacement part numbers
Front Seat Cushion Bottom 1990-1993 have same replacement part numbers
Front Seat Cushion Back 1994-1995 have same replacement part numbers
Front Seat Cushion Bottom 1994-1995 have same replacement part numbers
Headrests only sold as complete part with frame and cover. Could not get replacement part numbers for headrest cushions only. 1989 parts were no longer in the Ford parts database. Since the headrests were all 4 way tilt the covers are all interchangable? If you know different please post.
1989 (not available)
1990
1991
1992-1993 have same replacement part numbers
1994-1995 fixed headrest have same replacement part numbers
The side bolster cushion part numbers are as follows:
89-90 same replacement part number
91-92 same replacement part number
1993
1994-1995 same replacement part number
My conclusion is as follows:
1989-1990 front seat covers are interchangable. Due to side bolsters
1991-1992 front seat covers are interchangable. Due to side bolsters
1993 front seat cover only fits 1993. Due to side bolsters
1994-1995 front seat covers are interchangeable. Due to Cushion and side bolsters.
Rich
Rich Thomson
03-03-2005, 07:42 PM
First Set in and all I can say is if they fit as well as they look then these are the best replacement seat covers I have ever touched. This weekend I will have new pictures up. The first set are for a 1990 SC with split fold 60/40 rear. Black with Black center perforated seat covers. Each set will come with an installation kit which has all the needed HOG rings and hog ring plyers to install the covers correctly. Since this first set is for a customer in Georgia I will not be able to use these for the installation instructions. The seat covers are an exact duplicate of the OEM leater right down to the stitching patterns. Please email me if you are still interested in a set. The next set will be for my project 1994 SC with 60/40 split in Mocha. Thoes will have both logos and maybe a perforated center. (stock 94-up did not come with perforated leather). The seat covers are now availiable at our online store.
www.mn12performance.com
Rich
Toms-SC
03-03-2005, 10:45 PM
VERY nice work Rich
drummerzrok24
03-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Any pictures of these yet?
I have a question about the back seat cover. Does this seat cover replace the top and sides of the back seat also?
ThunderTurkey
03-09-2005, 01:36 AM
The seat covers are now availiable at our online store.
www.mn12performance.comRich
I might have missed it in a previous post, but ..... do you also have covers that will fit the LX model?? :o
Rich Thomson
03-09-2005, 07:25 PM
I have added pictures to the products page for the Leather seat covers.
Here is a link directly to the page.
Leather Seat Covers (http://www.mn12performance.com/xcart/product.php?productid=29&cat=1)
The seat covers are for the 89-95 SC's only. If you upgrade your front seats to SC seats then the covers we offer will fit.
Rich
drummerzrok24
03-10-2005, 02:34 PM
Alright, another question...
I know that on your site, you have the available colors of leather, but in the leather color selection list, there are only a few of the ones you have available, can we get the colors that are on the available color page?
thanks
Jean
Rich Thomson
03-10-2005, 04:24 PM
Alright, another question...
I know that on your site, you have the available colors of leather, but in the leather color selection list, there are only a few of the ones you have available, can we get the colors that are on the available color page?
thanks
Jean
To be honest we are adjusting the color selection which we will be offering. Remember we want to get as close to the factory colors as available. I will update this thread when I have the final color selection.
Rich
drummerzrok24
03-10-2005, 04:50 PM
To be honest we are adjusting the color selection which we will be offering. Remember we want to get as close to the factory colors as available. I will update this thread when I have the final color selection.
Rich
I'm trying to get away from factory colors if possible, but the seat covers that you have on the site, the black leather and silver suede are making me want to go that route. I'm going to get a set for sure come spring-summer time. Also, you get instructions on how to put them on and what not? Even how to take that top and side part of the back bench?
Keep up the nice work.
Rich Thomson
03-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Installation instructions are already in progress. I have finished the instructions on removing the rear seat covers but still have to finish the removal of the front seats. Then I will be adding the installation part. Alot of info to do the installation instructions but will be well worth it.
Rich
Brando B
03-12-2005, 03:45 PM
I own a 90SC with the dark red interior and the only one i see close to matching is a color named tomato on the leather choices. Is this the only color available or will more options be available sooon.
Thanks,
Brando
cougarsc
03-12-2005, 05:53 PM
How about a Cougar Logo...
Rich Thomson
03-13-2005, 09:21 AM
1989-1992 had a Color called Currant Red which we have a replacement color called Ruby Red.
Here is the color but internet posting of leather colors is really bad. I have the actual color sample but pictures cannot show the true color and tone of the material.
https://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/rubyred.JPG
Other Logos can be made just have to have an order first. This is what I have for Cougar Logo.
https://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/cougar_logo_large.JPG
Rich
JustinH
03-13-2005, 01:08 PM
Great work Rich. I will be in touch with you about a set of 35th anniversary clones after I find a decent set of supercoupe seats to start with.
About the installation, how long are you finding it to install each cover? Have you done an install yet yourself?
Would it be safe to say that the average person can not do this in their own garage if they have never done interior work before?
Justin
XR7 Dave
03-13-2005, 04:12 PM
Great work Rich. I will be in touch with you about a set of 35th anniversary clones after I find a decent set of supercoupe seats to start with.
About the installation, how long are you finding it to install each cover? Have you done an install yet yourself?
Would it be safe to say that the average person can not do this in their own garage if they have never done interior work before?
Justin
I have installed 2 sets of these. It is hard work to get everything to fit right. That doesn't mean the covers are of anything but great quality, just that it isn't an easy job. Upholstery is not an easy job period which is why there is a market for professional installers.
That being said you can do this with basic tools (make sure you get hog ring pliers). A can of silicone spray really helps too. The final product will be a reflection of your abilities and patience as it is one thing to "toss" a set of covers on and another thing althogether to get a professional finish.
suprkoop
03-14-2005, 01:49 PM
How much for just a replacement passenger seat cushion in titanium?
Discount for 2 complete sets with TBird logo?????
T-bird4vr
03-14-2005, 01:56 PM
I have installed 2 sets of these. It is hard work to get everything to fit right. That doesn't mean the covers are of anything but great quality, just that it isn't an easy job. Upholstery is not an easy job period which is why there is a market for professional installers.
That being said you can do this with basic tools (make sure you get hog ring pliers). A can of silicone spray really helps too. The final product will be a reflection of your abilities and patience as it is one thing to "toss" a set of covers on and another thing althogether to get a professional finish.
Got pics david?
Rich Thomson
03-14-2005, 03:42 PM
I thought I stated this before? The covers are sold as a complete set only. Front/Rear no partical covers are being offered. The replacement leather covers we are offering are not the exact factory colors. I have leather colors that are very close to the origionals but are not an exact color match. Replacing say one seat cover would not match the origional covers.
Rich
ThunderTurkey
03-14-2005, 05:10 PM
I thought I stated this before? The covers are sold as a complete set only. Front/Rear no partical covers are being offered. The replacement leather covers we are offering are not the exact factory colors. I have leather colors that are very close to the origionals but are not an exact color match. Replacing say one seat cover would not match the origional covers. Rich
...... but I'm sure MOST of us here that own a TBird are not trying to restore it to show-car status. Just a decent daily driver that you're not sitting on the springs or getting foam all over your pants. Out of my 3 Birds right now, I don't think any two seats match due to sun-fading and wear, and ANY cloth lightens up when you clean it enough. For the most part, I'm happy when the seat cushion doesn't poke me with a spring popping thru! Right now, all I can afford and what I need MOST is a drivers side seat covering. If you can supply us with individual sections, you would prolly sell a bazillion of them. If you can't, I guess I'll just take my business to the local auto upholsterer and see if he can sew in a patch panel. People don't see my seats in the dark, or when I'm sitting on them, but they sure notice peeling clearcoat!!
:(
Rich Thomson
05-09-2005, 03:22 PM
Latest Cougar XR7 seat covers. A pic of the cougar logo on the seatback. Thanks to all who have ordered.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/cougar-logo.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/cougar-sc.JPG
Ira R.
05-09-2005, 03:29 PM
That's a great job! Do you have any pics of what the T-Bird seat back looks like, or is it here already and I just don't see it??
Ira
seawalkersee
05-10-2005, 11:17 PM
That's a great job! Do you have any pics of what the T-Bird seat back looks like, or is it here already and I just don't see it??
Ira
One page back man...
Chris
Ira R.
05-11-2005, 11:32 AM
One page back man...
Chris
Thanks. I don't know how I missed it the first time!
Ira
Rich Thomson
05-12-2005, 05:17 PM
Here is the color layout for the custom seat covers for my 94 Project Car.
The cars interior is Mocha. The Lt. Mocha is an exact color match to the 94-95 factory color. I am looking at a one shade darker color called M. Prarie Tan as well. Below is the layout of the two tone layout. I have choosen the sportier look of the 89-93 style for my 1994. The 94-95 style is too luxury looking for me.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/order-040805-front.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/order-040805-rear.JPG
SanDiegoLXBird
05-12-2005, 09:05 PM
How close are SHO seatbacks to the early style SC seats? I want to go to the bigger bolster and bigger head-rest of the SHO seats and was wondering if the SHO seats were close enough to the early SC seats to pick up a set of these covers.
Rich Thomson
05-13-2005, 06:42 AM
How close are SHO seatbacks to the early style SC seats? I want to go to the bigger bolster and bigger head-rest of the SHO seats and was wondering if the SHO seats were close enough to the early SC seats to pick up a set of these covers.
The SHO shares the smaller side bolsters with the Thunderbird. SHO has fixed seats no front tilt switch. The rear seat covers are different too. As for selling SHO seat covers we are not selling any. Thunderbird SC seat cover sets only.
Rich
SanDiegoLXBird
05-13-2005, 06:25 PM
The SHO shares the smaller side bolsters with the Thunderbird. SHO has fixed seats no front tilt switch. The rear seat covers are different too. As for selling SHO seat covers we are not selling any. Thunderbird SC seat cover sets only.
Rich
The 89 SHO seats have the larger bolsters just like the early SC seats. Basically, I was going to use the SHO seatbacks with the SC seat bottoms and back seat. The SHO seats are easy to make tilt forward, just requires the T-bird hinge, easy enough to do. Is there any way to find out of the early SC seat covers will work with the SHO seat backs?
Rich Thomson
05-29-2005, 08:15 PM
I have finished installing the rear seat. This is my own custom design and layout. I used the 1993 style seats for my 1994. So far it's looking really good. Just 4 days to finish the car before Carlisle and I should have the front seats finished by end of tomorrow. If you are interested in replacing your seat covers contact us. richt@mn12performance.com
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/94sc-custom-rear.JPG
trife86
05-30-2005, 12:16 AM
wow man those rear seats are beautiful man, very very nice work you got going
Grims95SC
05-30-2005, 12:51 AM
*drools*
Ah man, if I had the $... The two tone looks amazing!
seawalkersee
05-30-2005, 02:16 AM
Wow...Those are beautifulllllll...I know what Im askin for for Christmas...
Chris
Rich Thomson
05-30-2005, 08:54 PM
Finished and Ready for Carlisle. Here is a pic of the front seat.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/94sc-custom-front.JPG
Kurt K
05-30-2005, 11:59 PM
Finished and Ready for Carlisle. Here is a pic of the front seat.
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/94sc-custom-front.JPG
Looks good Rich. I can't wait to see it in person later this week.
racecougar
05-31-2005, 12:38 AM
Hmmm...it looks like I found out what I want for my birthday. They look great.
-Rod
Mike8675309
06-03-2005, 08:43 PM
Owners with 35th Anniversary cars. Is the suede perforated on the rear seats too?
Rich
I know no one answered before but I got my 35th out of storage this week. Yes, the rear seats are perferated as well. All suede is perferated on the 35th cars.
35th_TB-SC
06-22-2005, 12:31 AM
so no exact match for a 35th?
Rich Thomson
06-22-2005, 06:08 AM
so no exact match for a 35th?
The first set of 35th style seats are in the process of being made. I will say this again the seat covers will be a close replica not an exact match for the 35th seat covers. Placing the OEM and these together will clearly show a difference. Seat covers are sold in complete front and rear sets only, I cannot replace just one seat cover.
Rich
35th_TB-SC
06-22-2005, 11:14 PM
The first set of 35th style seats are in the process of being made. I will say this again the seat covers will be a close replica not an exact match for the 35th seat covers. Placing the OEM and these together will clearly show a difference. Seat covers are sold in complete front and rear sets only, I cannot replace just one seat cover.
Rich
Ok I need as set for mine. Can you pm with price shipped to 28277?
Rich Thomson
07-07-2005, 05:17 PM
I have a few pics of the 35th style seat covers. These seat covers are available through our Online Store.
E-mail us (do not post here) if you have questions.
Rich
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic1.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic2.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic3.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic4.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic5.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic6.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic7.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic8.JPG
http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/seat-covers/35th-style/35th-style-pic9.JPG
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