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tbird88
05-16-2005, 09:36 AM
Been gettin' calls that mention the lack of shops that actually have dies for doin' 3" pipe bending. Is it that uncommon in your area? Took an informal poll around southeast Texas and it seems about 2/3 of the shops here do NOT have 3" dies. Thought that was pretty odd, seems with all the Cowboy Cadillacs here that every shop worth its salt would have 'em but guess not. Heck, can't go 30 minutes around here without seeing/hearing some pickup passin' by with a smallblock Chevy or Ford with 3" exhaust...WHAAAAAWHAAAAAAAAAAABLAAAAAAAAAAAAAP...
go figure.

http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/img/ex/midpipe7868.jpg

Anyhooz, messed around and got it pretty close. Here's a midpipe for those less fortunate ones that don't have access to a 3" bender. Yep, done on a muffler machine etc etc, ends are left random for tweaking to fit any particular setup.

Cost is around $75

suggestions?

'bird

BT Motorsports
05-16-2005, 12:04 PM
suggestions?

'bird
Just one, how about for a late style tank as well ;) I know of one person that would be right on a late style piece here in SoCal.

Paul

XxSlowpokexX
05-16-2005, 09:50 PM
3.5 inch for late model.....Ohh yahh itl fit!!

tbird88
05-16-2005, 10:04 PM
Just one, how about for a late style tank as well ;) I know of one person that would be right on a late style piece here in SoCal.

PaulThis is the only decent pic I have of my previous setup.

http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/lola/lolaexh2048.jpg

Sonicman bought it and I installed it under his '94 auto, worked out great. Only catch would be is where someone would want the split at for the mufflers. I could leave that end random like the early version. Price on the late version would be somewhat less than the early.
One thing I really like about mine now is the 3-bolt flange at the rear of the resonator. Makes for no-hassle removal, such as when your 5spd decides to lock itself in reverse... :mad:

'bird

darriantbird
05-16-2005, 11:38 PM
That looks great! Out here I have no problem finding a shop to bend 3 or for that matter 3.5 pipe ,go figure us yankees got all the luck!!! :D :D :D Thats a real reasonable price to I paid $80 for my midpipe to be bent up so I say that right inline with going rates.I have bought some small parts from you and it's always been very reasonable and high quality!!!

XxSlowpokexX
05-17-2005, 04:03 PM
In NY at least double that!

LightEMup
05-17-2005, 11:31 PM
This is the only decent pic I have of my previous setup.

http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/lola/lolaexh2048.jpg

Sonicman bought it and I installed it under his '94 auto, worked out great. Only catch would be is where someone would want the split at for the mufflers. I could leave that end random like the early version. Price on the late version would be somewhat less than the early.
One thing I really like about mine now is the 3-bolt flange at the rear of the resonator. Makes for no-hassle removal, such as when your 5spd decides to lock itself in reverse... :mad:

'bird
hey i just got back from the exhaust shop, they told me they couldn't bend that 3 inch section. Is there any way u could bend that exact same system in that picture and i could buy it off of you? no one will do it here :( and i really would like a 2.5 into 3 back into 2.5 setup. Let me know!

tbird88
05-18-2005, 08:03 AM
That looks great! Out here I have no problem finding a shop to bend 3 or for that matter 3.5 pipe ,go figure us yankees got all the luck!!! :D :D :D Thats a real reasonable price to I paid $80 for my midpipe to be bent up so I say that right inline with going rates.I have bought some small parts from you and it's always been very reasonable and high quality!!!Hey, appreciate the compliment!

'bird

tbird88
05-18-2005, 08:08 AM
hey i just got back from the exhaust shop, they told me they couldn't bend that 3 inch section. Is there any way u could bend that exact same system in that picture and i could buy it off of you? no one will do it here :( and i really would like a 2.5 into 3 back into 2.5 setup. Let me know!Be happy to work with ya on what you need, not sure what you mean by 2.5-3-2.5 though. You lookin' for 2-1/2" dragpipes? Can't help ya there, only thing I do is 2.25 because that's the largest that will physically bolt up to factory manifolds.
Only other way to do it is to build the dragpipes out've 2.5 and then swedge the ends down to 2.25, then flare them as usual...that what you're after?

'bird

XxSlowpokexX
05-18-2005, 09:35 AM
That may be a good Idea..Make a 2.5 inch downpipe. Start off at 2.25 then flareout..Id still liek to see a 3.5 inch mid pipe for 94-95 sc:O)

seawalkersee
05-19-2005, 01:02 AM
Can you manderal bend them as well? I realize it is a minute item but if your gonna bend 3 or 3.5" then why not get the best of it? If not then I would probably still be in for at least one late model one.

Chris

seawalkersee
05-20-2005, 09:14 PM
Uhhhhhh...is that a no?

Chris

tbird88
05-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Can you manderal bend them as well? I realize it is a minute item but if your gonna bend 3 or 3.5" then why not get the best of it? If not then I would probably still be in for at least one late model one.

ChrisNope, can't mandrel bend anything because of cost etc. As far as a compression bent 3" midsection for late models, I can handle that. However, I put together the mandrel pipe that's on my car now with an assortment of 45's & 90's.

We're goin' up to the Texas Meet at the Lake in the mornin', hopefully I can get some opinions from other about how my car sounds now.

'bird

seawalkersee
05-20-2005, 11:37 PM
How much does it cost for the manderal bend? If you have it on yours, what is the perfromance gained by that? Is it even measureable?

Wish I was goin to the lake in Texas...I would show you good music. Not SRV :D

Chris

darriantbird
05-21-2005, 12:36 AM
Manderel bending will only marginally at best make a differance a good compression bend should give plenty of flow :p

seawalkersee
05-21-2005, 08:25 AM
Do you have any articles on that? Not doubting you but for my edification.

Chris

LightEMup
05-22-2005, 10:13 PM
Be happy to work with ya on what you need, not sure what you mean by 2.5-3-2.5 though. You lookin' for 2-1/2" dragpipes? Can't help ya there, only thing I do is 2.25 because that's the largest that will physically bolt up to factory manifolds.
Only other way to do it is to build the dragpipes out've 2.5 and then swedge the ends down to 2.25, then flare them as usual...that what you're after?

'bird
well i didn't know that u couldn't put 2.5's off the manifolds....i guess i'm lookin for somthin that i could get and bolt up to my 89, its a street car so i don't need anything extreme, but that system in that picture would be awsome! 2.25 off the stock manifolds, and no cats, just 2.25 inch pipes into a magnaflow, then 3 inch into a y pipe and back out into 2.5 into 2 mufflers.....i think that's the same setup in that picture.....i would very much so be interested if you could do that for me, my email is wutangmunkyfu@yahoo.com or just PM me :) u got me all excited now! lol

tbird88
05-23-2005, 07:47 AM
How much does it cost for the manderal bend? If you have it on yours, what is the perfromance gained by that? Is it even measureable?

Wish I was goin to the lake in Texas...I would show you good music. Not SRV :D

ChrisBurned out from the trip to the lake...WHOA what a cruise!

Probably not measurable on a somewhat stock engine like mine, guess I just did it to do it. Don't remember the exact cost of all the bends involved, here's a list of parts, see pic below for reference.

three 3" 45's
single 3" x dual 2.5" Y-pipe
three 2.5" 45's
four 2.5" 90's

Here it is put together, it's on my car now:
http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/lola/lolaexh2148.jpg

Focus took Lola for a stroll around the park, her exhaust tone sounded pretty good, gonna leave the system just like it is.

umm...not SRV?

'bird

lube70
05-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Wynn, you still have the IC gasket sets???? I really need about 4 of them (sets that is, for the guys at the NJTACC), and need to know if they are still available.


Thanks in advance,

Don

seawalkersee
05-23-2005, 06:19 PM
Yeah...Im not a blues fan to begin with but I really dont like Stevie Ray Vaughn.

Chris

Thomas95SC
05-31-2005, 08:05 PM
This is the only decent pic I have of my previous setup.

http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/lola/lolaexh2048.jpg

Sonicman bought it and I installed it under his '94 auto, worked out great. Only catch would be is where someone would want the split at for the mufflers. I could leave that end random like the early version. Price on the late version would be somewhat less than the early.
One thing I really like about mine now is the 3-bolt flange at the rear of the resonator. Makes for no-hassle removal, such as when your 5spd decides to lock itself in reverse... :mad:

'bird

I had Wynn install his setup on my bird and it fits and sounds great :cool:! I have gone to Wynn for all my exhaust needs and so far he has done an excellent job as far as craftsmanship and fitment. I will be returning to him as soon as I get my motor back with some midlength headers-need some S curves from my headers to my res.

seawalkersee
06-01-2005, 12:06 AM
Whats the possibility of you puttin together a kit that includes all of that stuff you have in the pic Wynn?

Chris

ZRS90sc
06-09-2005, 07:29 PM
**** yea i'd be interested, with that dinky lil pipe and the bad crush at the 1st bend goin back, u build it, i'll buy it

ZRS90sc
06-09-2005, 07:32 PM
sry i was talkn bout the factory pipe lol, that looks way better than stock

seawalkersee
06-10-2005, 01:03 AM
I was thinkin about this post again today. Hmmmm...wonder if I could get that stuff bent locally...

Chris

seawalkersee
06-13-2005, 06:52 AM
Hey Wynn. How come it is not possible to send you a pm? I keep trying to do that and it wont let me. What Gives?

Chris

tbird88
06-13-2005, 07:17 AM
**** yea i'd be interested, with that dinky lil pipe and the bad crush at the 1st bend goin back, u build it, i'll buy itSold the one in the pic, if you decide you want one let me know. Email in my sig.

thanks,

'bird

tbird88
06-13-2005, 07:26 AM
Whats the possibility of you puttin together a kit that includes all of that stuff you have in the pic Wynn?

ChrisI doubt I could come up with a kit that would fit like a glove, couldn't compete on price with Flowmaster catbacks etc either.

So, what kinda music we talkin'...Bluegrass? Reggae? Montovani?

'bird

ps: no PM's because email is just plain easier to deal with. Well, at least easier than PM's, been there done that. My email stays a mess but I think PM's were designed by Super Coupe engineers... :p

seawalkersee
06-13-2005, 10:19 AM
Then YOU have an email sir...Heavy Metal or Country...yeah...Im screwed up.

Chris