SOLD --> Ultra-clean, Tastefully Modded '90 SC 5spd For Sale in Ontario, Canada

[SeanMatteson]

{EDIT}PLEASE READ THE POSTS NEAR THE END OF THIS THREAD. I HAVE LOWERED THE PRICE DRASTICALLY!!!

I'm now only asking for $7,500 USD or $8,800 CAD firm.

If you read about what this car has to offer, you'll realize this is a steal!!!

This post is originally from when I tried selling the car back in June of 2005. The car has had thousands more dollars invested since then, and I've basically cut my price almost in half.{/EDIT}


After careful consideration, I've decided it's time to sell my SC to someone who can pick up the torch with fresh enthusiasm for the car.

Here's the details:

1990 Ford Thunderbird SuperCoupe
Red on black leather, 5-spd
161,000 km (approx. 100,000 mi)
Asking $15,000.00 CDN or best offer for complete car and all spare parts

Here's my SCCoA Member's Page: http://www.sccoa.com/member/index.php?uniquename=matteson

...The pictures are outdated. I'll try to post newer pics in this thread. I can email high-resolution copies to interested parties. If you want pictures of anything in particular on the car, just email me with your requests.

For those who haven't seen the car in person, both times it has been at the All-Ford Nat'ls it came away a winner. In '03 it took 3rd place in the 1990 SC class, and this year it was awarded a 1rst place finish in the same class.

The car received fresh paint (stock red) about two years ago, but there was zero rust on the car then, and there still isn't any. The body and paintwork was professionally done with a great deal of wet-sanding both during the primer stage, and after the clear-coat was applied. The finish is glass-smooth! The car sports colour-keyed '96-'97 door handles, colour-keyed belt mouldings, clear corner lights, recent replacement headlamp housings (still crystal-clear), late-style trunklid and tail lights (all LED's work), freshly tinted windows, shaved emlems and keyless entry keypad and authentic '03 SVT Cobra 17"x9" rims shod in Firestone SZ 50 EP's (255-45-17 front and 275-40-17 rear).

The suspension has basically been totally redone in the past two years. The car has Eibach lowering springs (1.5") at all four corners, Koni Sport shocks up front and Bilstein shocks out back, and all new bushings and end-links. The front upper and lower control arms are new. The tie rods and ends have been replaced. The rear knuckle and diff bushings are polyurethane. There is a pair of AirLift airbags in the rear springs. The rear spring isolators were also replaced. I swapped in an extra fat half-shaft so both sides have them now. All hubs have been replaced during the bolt-circle swap to the 5 on 4.5" pattern.

The front brakes have been upgraded with freshly rebuilt Mark VIII calipers, re-drilled Mark VIII rotors (11.6") and mounted to late-style spindles. The rear brakes make use of the stock rear calipers relocated using the brackets from Ed Nicholson, over Cobra 11.65" rear rotors. This setup works quite well for shedding speed quickly without warping stock-sized rotors.

Engine mods include the following:


MAC Cold Air Intake Kit
Mildly ported heads, stock valves and springs, 3-angle grind
Port matched lower intake manifold
Ported stock exhaust manifolds
10% OD pulley on supercharger
3/4" Raised Top
C&L 76mm MAF
Solid rubber motor mounts
Gatorback-style belts (Dayco)
Steel idler pulleys (Dayco)
FelPro Head Gaskets (New in March '02)
Walbro 255 lph forced induction fuel pump in late style tank
Full 2 1/2"stainless steel true-dual exhaust with highflow cats, no resonators, X-pipe and big Borla mufflers
EEC Tuner
Ported stock M90, with ported intake plenum, inlet elbow, IC tubes
BBK 75mm TB
10" IC fan
FMS 42 lb/hr fuel injectors
SCI Aluminum Underdrive Accessory Pulleys
SCI Aluminum Jackshaft Pulley
SCI Ported Early Style Blower
SCI Ported Early Style Intake Plenum


On the chassis dyno, this combination netted 255 RWHP and 367 ft lbs of RWTQ. The car's quickest pass so far is 14.272 s with poor 60' times. The car has trapped its fastest pass at a hair over 100 mph (with Dave Dalke driving), so it should be a 13s car if someone can figure out how to get it to hook up and go. I have dyno charts and time slips to back all of this up.

The stock shifter has been rebuilt using Ford parts, and a CenterForce Dual-Friction clutch was swapped in. Otherwise, the transmission is original and still shifts great. The transmission mount has been replaced also.

The interior has been upgraded with mint black leather seats from a '93 SC. I Have added the modified Taurus cup holder. Included are SVP Custom T-Bird SC Floor Mats. The car does not have the moonroof.

The audio system currently consists of the following:


Kenwood AM/FM CD/MP3/WMA/AAC head unit (KDC-X879, I think)
Memphis Belle 5-channel amplifier
JL Audio 5.25" MidBass Drivers and Tweeters up front
JL Audio 6"x8" Two-Way speakers in the rear
Pair of JL Audio 12W6v2 subwoofers in custom sealed, chambered enclosure


Linked pictures:

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6506
http://sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13502
http://sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13503
http://sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13543
http://sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7151

I also have all parts necessary to swap in a brand new billet CompCams camshaft. This includes:


Comp Cams custom billet core camshaft (218/230 dur, .519" lift)
Comp Cams Beehive Valve Springs
Comp Cams Retainers
Custom Locks
Trick Flow Hardened Chromoly Pushrods 0.080" wall
New OEM-style Lifters
BTM 1.73 ratio Roller Rockers
Pedestal Shim Kit
FelPro Upper Engine Gasket Set and Ford Water Pump Gasket
FelPro Lower Engine Gasket Set, including Front Cover Gasket
BHJ Balancer
Morana Double-Roller Timing Set
New Ford Timing Chain Tensioner
BTM Chrome, Hex-head bolt kit with lower manifold bolts, and many others
New Melling High-Volume Oil Pump


These parts cost me well over $1600 USD alone, and I'd like for the complete kit to go with the car.

Additionally, I parted out an '89 SC a few years ago, and I still have bins and bins of spare parts, including a brass-core rad, a spare pumpkin (3.27:1), a spare M5R2 Tranny, and numerous engine and electronic components (DIS, coil pack, various sensors, etc.). Again, I'd prefer for all of this to go with the car. Please don't make requests here for specific parts. If I can't sell all of this stuff together, then I will make a separate post under the Parts For Sale forum.

If you're interested in this tremendous package, please contact me via email ASAP.

Best regards,

Sean

[rzibilske77]

am I missing something here?....15,000?

[pablon2]

am I missing something here?....15,000?

Yes you are...it is 15k CDN

[SeanMatteson]

am I missing something here?....15,000?

No, sir. You're pretty much there. As pablon2 pointed out, this is in CDN funds, so that means that you Americans should be able to buy this with the change on your dresser at home. ;)

Honestly, my asking price is about half what I've invested in the car since getting it back in '01.

...And it is an asking price. I am willing to negotiate with interested buyers. I have most stock pieces and could sell off the go-fast goodies, audio components and other things separately if that's what it takes. The car could be returned to near-stock condition in order to make it more affordable for potential buyers, but the truth is you would never be able to put this car together for anywhere near $15k CDN.

It's not the fastest car in our group, but I've always strived to mod the car in balance. It goes plenty fast around town and on the highway, it handles great, and it even brakes well (not 'breaks'! ;) ). I don't mean any disrespect to the other SC'ers in this community, but I'm confident this car ranks among the cleanest specimens in the club.

If you want to pick up where I'm leaving off with the project, at a fraction of what it would cost to do it all from scratch, then feel free to email me with your offer. If you're only interested in finding a cheap SC to have a little fun with for a couple of years, then this is not the car for you.

Respectfully,

Sean

[rzibilske77]

I didn't mean to stir trouble, but when I read the post right after u posted it, none of that long list of mods/upgrades new replacements was posted...u edited afterwards, now it seems to be the real deal..Actually how much is 15k cdn...and yes I did see that earlier! got any pics...I would love to see :)
sry for maybe misunderstanding....I'm sure its worth every penny and no I don't have that many :D

[SeanMatteson]

Hey, don't sweat it. You weren't creating trouble.

I made three attempts to put everything in at once, and lost my efforts, so I decided instead to put up a basic post, and then modify it with frequent saves to reduce the risk of losing stuff.

I'd be more than happy to provide you with pics. I'll try to find more that I can link to, but the bulk of my pictures are on my PC at home, and I'm at work right now. I'll try to post some tonight.

Best regards,

Sean

[lube70]

Sean's car is IMMACULATE!!!!! It's probably one of the nicest SC's I've ever seen. All work done with excellent workmanship.

Anyone that get's this car has no clue how much time and work went into making a great car.

Sorry to see the car go Sean, I know that the 'other half' has gotten you to this point (I know the deal, same here!!!!), and hope it makes a great home.


Basically a brand new car that's older......


Don

[SeanMatteson]

Thanks, Don!

I really appreciate your comments. Actually, although Alecia has pressured me to sell the SC in the past, when it came down to it, she had very little to do with the decision.

I am trying to find a good, new home for the car, but I wouldn't expect me to fall off the face of the earth anytime soon. I've made friendships in the past four years around here that I can't walk away from. I'll likely be around the forums now and then, and I'll still try to help out with advice and the like whenever/wherever I can.

...I might even have to ride down to Carlisle with another SC'er just to party with everyone at the All Ford Nationals! :D

Cheers,

Sean

[midgetchaser]

wow......thats nice wish i had the money

[SeanMatteson]

I've added some new linked pics in the original post.

Let me know if you want anything in particular.

Cheers,

Sean

[Blown_347_SC]

When I saw it in person up close, the car was unbelievably clean....

A truly beautiful car. Breaks my heart to see Sean part ways with her, but I know it will go to a good home!

Best of luck Sean.

[92bird]

One of my favorite red SC's.. Best of luck in your sale Sean..

Jeramie

[SeanMatteson]

Here are some pics from the last trip to the track, last Summer:

http://members.tccoa.com/skunkworks/21.jpg

http://members.tccoa.com/skunkworks/22.jpg

http://members.tccoa.com/skunkworks/23.jpg

Cheers,

Sean

[Andrew Wang]

As much as I'd hate to see Sean sell his car, I'd have to say Sean is meticulous when it comes to maintenance and modding of his car. Hopefully somebody who appreciates what he has done will pick up the car and spare him from going the Autotrader route. :eek:

[SeanMatteson]

So far, there haven't been any serious offers on the car. I'll give it the weekend, and if nothing else materializes, then I'll post it in the Autotrader to see if there's anyone outside our community who is interested.

Regards,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

The car is going into the Autotrader. Hopefully that will generate some better action.

In case it was missed before, the price is negotiable. If you're serious about owning a nice SuperCoupe, make me an offer.

Regards,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

The pics I had posted on the TCCoO which were posted here had been taken down. Instead, please refer to the following web page (courtesy of Bruce) for some pics:

Sean's SC Page (http://web.295.ca/~dunsmore//Pages%20Autos/Super%20Coupes/Sean/sean_pages.htm)

Thanks,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

Today, the failure of a lousy $10 part (new from Ford) caused me to rear-end someone in my daily driver '98 Taurus. A stupid plastic 90 deg elbow in a vacuum line broke apart taking vacuum assist away from the braking system, leaving me with a rock hard pedal that even though I tried pushing it through the damned floorboards I couldn't stop the car in time. ...How's that for a run-on sentance?!

Anyway, I've decided I'm about done tinkering with 10 year old cars anymore. I often times have to travel for work, or shuttle my kids to/from their sporting events, etc., and I can't risk having another incident like this.

My misfortune can be someone else's fortune...

In the initial post above I've detailed the history of my SuperCoupe. Here's what's happened with it since July '05...

I didn't get any serious offers on the car and when Bill McNeil only had limited success when putting his car in the Autotrader, I got discouraged, and some fellow SCCoA members talked me into keeping the car. I installed the camshaft and other parts in August of '05. I enjoyed driving the car a little but then in October of '05 (after putting less than 1,000 km's on the new cam and stuff), I spun a rod bearing and had to get another engine. I commissioned Dave Dalke to build me a motor. Please refer to my Member's Page (you can access it under my name at the top of this very post) for all of the details of what's gone into this car to-date. I assure you that I've invested magnitudes more money than what I'm now asking for the car. Yeah, I was asking $15k CAD before, but I quickly learned that these cars just aren't worth that kind of money to anybody anymore, save for a few well-off enthusiasts, all of whom already have good, clean SC's of their own. Heck, I even invested thousands more to get Dave to build the engine and come up and install it and tune it with me in the Spring of '06! ...If you want to know how much that cost, you'll have to ask Dave. ;) It makes me nauseous to think about how much money I've thrown away on this car in the time I've owned it, because sadly my life just hasn't allowed me to get that much enjoyment out of it.

Still, there are things I've gained from owning this SC that I just won't give back... I've made some great friendships through the associations with this car (on these forums, at various meets, etc.), and I can't say how much I value them!

BUT, the time has come for me to pass this car onto someone else in the hopes they'll keep working with it, and more importantly that they'll enjoy it.

I'm now asking $7,500 USD, or $8,800 CAD. I'm fairly firm on this price, so no tire-kickers, please. As was the case last time around, the buyer is welcome to take whatever he wants of the myriad of spare parts I've got. Whatever might be left over will be sold or disposed of afterwards. I'd prefer not to entertain offers here on this thread, so please contact me either by PM or by email if you're interested.

{EDIT}There is one thing I forgot to include in this post last night! Sorry! The only things not going with the car are the Memphis Belle amplifier and the box with the pair of 12" JL subwoofers. I've already got plans to use these audio items in another vehicle.{/EDIT}

Yours truly,

Sean

[conversion02]

Hell of a deal, wish I had the coin.

That's a STEAL for $7500

[coolhand]

Hell, without the subs and the amp, that car is just another red supercoupe.:D

[Jason Wild]

it's more then a steal for that price.

[SeanMatteson]

There have been about 400 views of this thread in the past few days, and I can't believe no one has bought this car at this new price!!! I added some bold print to the first post in the thread in the hopes it will make people notice that the price has almost been cut in half from what I originally was looking to get for this car back in June of '05.

C'mon, people?! Did I scare off all the tire-kickers?! Is that all there is reading this forum?!


Sean

[TwoToneThunder]

its a very beautiful car but the price for what it is may still be to high if i had the money and was looking for a nice one id buy it
we just had a 94 sc with 22k miles or so sell for about the same price and selling a modded sc even with a rebuilt motor is still hard not to insult id say drop the price to about 6500-6800 and someone will jump

no disrespect intended

[DamonSlowpokeBaumann]

SOmeone should pick this up..Its a bueatiful car

[SeanMatteson]

Damon, thanks!

TwoToneThunder, I've dropped the price about as much as I'm interested in dropping it. I respect what you're saying though. If a serious offer came in, I may be willing to negotiate, but I'm not going to drop the asking price below the $7,500 USD mark. This really is a steal as it is right now.

I recognize it's going to be more difficult to market this car to people in the U.S., because of what needs to happen in order to import the car. I also recognize that in the northern U.S., and in most of Canada it's still Winter and this isn't a Winter car.

I'll keep the car on the market and wait for the right buyer and the right time, if necessary. The car is garage kept, and it's not going to hurt it to stick around my place a little longer.

Regards,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

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[coolhand]

Someone out there needs to buy this car and give it a good home. It is a beauty. Wish it was going into my driveway, but............

[Toms-SC]

This car has been posted on a local Alberta forum
http://www.performance-shop.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42242.0

I want this car to stay Canadian

[SeanMatteson]

Thanks, Tom.

I especially appreciate your comment at the end of your post on that Alberta forum! :D

Cheers,

Sean

[popcop]

I just sold my 89 about a month ago. Did'nt want to but this years taxes are going to kill me for awhile. Got the money for the taxes almost, and will be looking for a SC after we pay our taxes in april. If you don't get it sold I will be very interested in taking it off your hands. Do you have any interior pictures you can send me?
llslon@comcast.net.
Also the car might not be in Canada, but if I buy it, it will just be south of detroit. Thanks, Popcop

[SeanMatteson]

Lon,

Email sent, and I replied to your PM.

Cheers,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

Another thing I forgot...

I just put a freshly rebuilt 3G style alternator on the car last Summer. It's built for 200A output, in support of the stereo system.

This is being sold on/with the car.

Cheers,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

Some people had been asking about pics of the interior, so I backed the SC out of the garage on Saturday and snapped a few. I've emailed them out to interested parties, but I'll post them here in case anyone else may be interested.

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25081&d=1172354052

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25082&d=1172354052

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25083&d=1172354052

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25084&d=1172354052

[Scott Long]

Sean, what needs to be done to bring the car stateside?

I have a spare cluster w/ 120mph US speedometer. I can't think of anything else. I don't think the seatbelts would be an issue anymore as the car is 17 years old. Any way to disable the hi beam daytime lights?

[coolhand]

Sean, what needs to be done to bring the car stateside?

I have a spare cluster w/ 120mph US speedometer. I can't think of anything else. I don't think the seatbelts would be an issue anymore as the car is 17 years old. Any way to disable the hi beam daytime lights?

Just wondering why you would want to disable them?

[SeanMatteson]

Sean, what needs to be done to bring the car stateside?

I have a spare cluster w/ 120mph US speedometer. I can't think of anything else. I don't think the seatbelts would be an issue anymore as the car is 17 years old. Any way to disable the hi beam daytime lights?

Scott,

The speedo and possibly the seatbelts are the only things I know of that you may need to do. The question would be better posed to someone from U.S. Customs.

The DRL can be disabled by buying an adapter from Ford for about $20 that bypasses the module but allows everything else to work normally. Alternatively, I've got the original DRL module that I swapped out, which still had everything else working properly but the running lights didn't come on. I did not mod it this way. I just happened to get lucky in that when it failed, it operated this way.

Regards,

Sean

[90blkbrd]

Come on everyone Canadian seat belts is a really big plus in my opinion. If I wasn't spending so much money on my basement I'd be talking to customs myself.

[coolhand]

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[jludorf]

opps double post
John

[jludorf]

The seatbelt issue is only an issue for importation of US cars into Canada, the canadian belts are the same as the 94/5 belts. I did some searching for a guy when I was selling a car 1.5 years ago and the motorized belts are a problem for Canada as they did not meet our safety standards but not the other way around. as for the daytime running lights that is also a safety feature and hat was not an issue.US customs has a pretty good site and were pretty helpful when I talked to the border. I would check with your dmv and they will known what you need to do.

I do know I was getting hassled when importing newer engines into the US but I believe that was a taxation issue as I just had to pay at the border it was 100 fee if I recall correctly, which is the same as importing a car with ac into Canada.
John

[SeanMatteson]

The seatbelt issue is only an issue for importation of US cars into Canada, the canadian belts are the same as the 94/5 belts. I did some searching for a guy when I was selling a car 1.5 years ago and the motorized belts are a problem for Canada as they did not meet our safety standards but not the other way around. as for the daytime running lights that is also a safety feature and hat was not an issue.US customs has a pretty good site and were pretty helpful when I talked to the border. I would check with your dmv and they will known what you need to do.

I do know I was getting hassled when importing newer engines into the US but I believe that was a taxation issue as I just had to pay at the border it was 100 fee if I recall correctly, which is the same as importing a car with ac into Canada.
John

Thanks, John. There is an interested buyer from Massachusetts and he is looking into what if any issues may be involved in importing a '90 SC into the U.S. He did find this documentation online (NHTSA - VEHICLE IMPORTATION GUIDELINES (Imported from Canada) - July 2006 (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/VIG_Canada07032.html)), and if you read it, I believe you'll agree that something may need to be done about the seatbelts. This particular gentleman is currently in contact with a Registered Importer to see how to make this happen.

If I find out anything more concrete, and if the deal with this interested party doesn't go through, then I will post the information here so that any other interested parties from the U.S. will know what's involved.

Best regards,

Sean

[coolhand]

Sean, any news on the sale?

[SeanMatteson]

Sean, any news on the sale?

The potential buyer tells me he is very much interested. We're just working to confirm there won't be any issues with importing the car into the U.S., and then we'll work out a schedule for him to come up here and pick up the car. So far, it looks like the car can be imported as is. If we can make this happen, we'll share the information with everyone here, so that others who may want to import an early model Canadian SC in the future can have a heads-up as to what's involved.

It looks like the car will be finding a new home in MA.

If this should fall through, I'll keep you posted.

Best regards,

Sean

[XR7 Dave]

The car cannot be updated to have US seat belts so forget that one. However, as memory serves and that linked abstract states, vehicles imported for personal use are not required to meet FMVSS. This I believe is how my sister imported her Dodge. She was living in the US and bought a Canadian car for personal use. I believe I imported the XR7 under the same clause.

I did however have to obtain from Ford a letter stating that the car meets US EPA. They sent me an actual US EPA sticker to put under the hood and it is there still to this day. I have the letter still as well.

You don't have to get an importer to do the work. Having an importer get a hold of that car might be a bad thing anyway. Individuals can always import anything they want for personal use. Importing services make things easier of course but they will cost the buyer a lot of money. If you do it yourself it is basically free. I have found in many cases it is also helpful to make a practice run to the border and simply go in and ask questions. Tell them that you are not exporting the car that day, but you are there to ask questions. This will familiarize you with the type of questions and proceedures that the customs officials are going to ask and it will also give you names (write them down) of people you talked to. I have found this to be very helpful in the past. It also makes the officials on duty feel important and you all know how people in positions of authority like to be made to feel important. :D

Good luck with it!

[SeanMatteson]

I did however have to obtain from Ford a letter stating that the car meets US EPA. They sent me an actual US EPA sticker to put under the hood and it is there still to this day. I have the letter still as well.

Dave,

Can you elaborate on who you contacted for this, and what exactly you had to ask for? The potential buyer contacted Ford, and they're trying to tell him the car does not meet US EPA. I find that hard to believe given that the same powertrain was available on both sides of the border (I know there are US cars with exactly the same Engine Code as mine. ...Heck, your XR7 might have the exact same original Engine Code.

We would appreciate your help. I'll PM and/or email you in case you don't notice this new post.

If this can't be made to work, then I guess I'm going to have to search specifically for a Canadian buyer.

Best regards,

Sean

[jludorf]

here is a link to the EPA emmisions conformance page for canadian vehicles, this should sort out the EPA issue.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/canadian/canlis96.htm

John

[SeanMatteson]

Thanks, John. Based on information on that site, there shouldn't really be a problem at all. It sounds like a 1990 T-Bird SC should be considered fine for import into the US in so far as U.S. EPA standards. The site states:

All 1988-1995 Canadian automobiles (gasoline or diesel fueled), light-duty trucks (gasoline or diesel fueled) and heavy-duty gasoline fueled engines are considered by EPA to conform with U.S. emission requirements.

This list incorporates the above as a class and specifies all other Canadian vehicles and engines that are considered by EPA to conform with U.S. emission requirements. Unless otherwise specified, this list includes only vehicles and engines using gasoline or diesel fuel.

I'll be calling Ford today to see if I can acquire the letter that Dave mentioned just to ensure the buyer doesn't have a problem getting the car across the border into the U.S.

Regards,

Sean

[XR7 Dave]

All 1988-1995 Canadian automobiles (gasoline or diesel fueled), light-duty trucks (gasoline or diesel fueled) and heavy-duty gasoline fueled engines are considered by EPA to conform with U.S. emission requirements.

This list incorporates the above as a class and specifies all other Canadian vehicles and engines that are considered by EPA to conform with U.S. emission requirements. Unless otherwise specified, this list includes only vehicles and engines using gasoline or diesel fuel.

I'll be calling Ford today to see if I can acquire the letter that Dave mentioned just to ensure the buyer doesn't have a problem getting the car across the border into the U.S.

Regards,

Sean

Boy, some people are thick headed. ;) Now call customs and ask them if they require a letter or if they have officially adopted the above mentioned policy. It may be that a letter is no longer required. Remember, I imported mine in 1992!

[XR7 Dave]

Did I mention "Call customs?" I think I've said that before. ;)

[MassSC]

Did I mention "Call customs?" I think I've said that before. ;)

Dave,

I've called Customs and they told me I would need a letter on Ford letterhead stating the vehicle complies with EPA standards. I also called Ford both in the US and in Canada to acquire the required information. I was asked to provide the calibration code, which I did, and the gentleman called me yesterday to inform me that according to the code given the car can't be exported into the US. Now he mentioned something about the passive restraint system and air bags, which I can't believe because my other '90 SC's don't have air bags, and the tag on the door jam states that the vehicle complies with all US FMVSS. By the way, to obtain this letter it costs $114 US. I asked him to print the screen and send it to me, but so far nothing.

I spoke with Sean last night and he is going to look into this issue further.

[SeanMatteson]

Well, I was just told the same thing from the Service Manager that I spoke with today. The process has obviously changed significantly since Dave imported his '90 XR7 to the USA.

I don't know what to say...

They're saying the car cannot be imported into the USA because it doesn't have either airbags (which no SC's or XR7's had of that vintage), or the passive restraint system. According to Dave, we can't retrofit the Passive Restraint System into an SC that was never equipped with it. I'm assuming that's because some of the mounting points don't exist in the Canadian cars?!

Paul, the interested buyer even has another early style SC he could get parts from for us to do the swap, but if it can't be done quickly and easily, and if it's still not possible to get the letter from Ford, then I guess we're done.

I just want to say that it has been a pleasure dealing with Paul (MassSC), and I'm very sorry we couldn't get over this hurdle. I really believed I had found a good home for my SC.

So, at this point the car is back on the market, although it sounds like it needs to stay in Canada. I'll probably put the car in the local AutoTrader and see what happens. ...May even start off with a higher asking price expecting to have to dicker some on price.

Best regards,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

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[SeanMatteson]

New dyno numbers are in my sig below.

This motor is very hungry. ...Put a MPX or AR on this car and it would be a bloody terror!

...Still need to make it back to the track for new 1/4 mi ET's.

At this point, the car is still available, but it sounds like it must stay in Canada. The car passed a legitimate e-test (for Ontario) a couple of weeks ago.

If you're interested, drop me a PM or an email.

Cheers,

Sean

[coolhand]

Bump for a beautiful car.

[SeanMatteson]

...Thanks, Matt.

BUT...

I was just coming over here to update this thread, because the car is sold pending payment and pickup.

...I won't say who is buying it just yet, but suffice it to say he is an SCCoO member who already has one SuperCoupe.

Thanks, everyone for your consideration.

Best regards,

Sean

[coolhand]

:( :( :( :( :( :(

[DamonSlowpokeBaumann]

USA or Canada?

[SeanMatteson]

USA or Canada?

...Canada.

If you read back a few posts, you'll see that Ford of Canada basically said I cannot obtain the necessary documentation for the 1990 T-Bird SC to be imported into the U.S.A. At that point, I bailed on trying to find a U.S. buyer.


Sean

[DamonSlowpokeBaumann]

Just wondering if that changed. Good luck man!

[SeanMatteson]

Just wondering if that changed. Good luck man!

If it could have been changed, Paul up in Mass would have been a happy camper, and the car would have been gone to that State a while ago.

Thanks, Damon.

Cheers,

Sean

[SeanMatteson]

The car was delivered to the new owner today, along with six large bins of spare parts, and a bunch of larger items.

...It's been a slice, gang. I'm glad I was able to find a good home for my baby!

Cheers,

Sean

[SC UL8R1990]

congrats on your sale.

once you own a super coupe, its hard not to come back to sccoa every now and then.:D

[DamonSlowpokeBaumann]

Youll eb back...They always come back.....Except for Peter Dennis that is...