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unclenick
08-01-2005, 03:08 PM
Ok, it started real bad this morning. I left my neighborhood this am didn't even get 300 feet when POW, the engine let loose. :(
Yep, the number 3 connecting rod broke, punched a hugh hole in the oil pan, car caught fire, I got the fire out before it engulfed the whole car. I am so heartbroken right now, a years worth of hard work, done, finish, toast.

I will post some pics of the pieces of the rings, pistion, oil pan ect tonight when I get home. I had the car towed to the shop and just cannot believe what has happened. It gave me no noise, did not loose oil pressure, no overheating when it happened. Heck, I wasn't even at 5 lbs of boost when it popped. I'll post pics of the car tomorrow when I get to work.

I don't know if I am going to fix the car or part it out at this point. :(

This really sucks.
SuperChicken89
08-01-2005, 04:03 PM
Nick...Man I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune :eek: What a way to start the week out. All of the work you have put into that car up in smoke. I hope you decide to fix it. Keep us posted.

Bryan
unclenick
08-01-2005, 07:00 PM
Here are some pics of what is left of oil pan and number 3 piston, rings and wrist pin. :(

http://images.snapfish.com/3445%3B65923232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E234%3B%3D429%3D537%3 DXROQDF%3E232399%3A44734%3Bot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/3445%3B65923232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E234%3B%3D429%3D537%3 DXROQDF%3E232399%3A44744%3Aot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/3445%3B65923232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E234%3B%3D429%3D537%3 DXROQDF%3E232399%3A447354ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/3445%3B65923232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E338%3E446%3E WSNRCG%3D3232%3A8%3B356543nu0mrj

OK, who wants to give an idea to what happened? The main bearing for the cylinder did not spin as the piece left on the rod is still attached to crank and spins freely, not to mention had 60 psi of oil pressure up to the point of explosion, did not loose any coolant or no sign of any problems at all!

Believe it or not the car still starts and runs under it's own power, but makes a hellva racket!
Jake
08-01-2005, 09:42 PM
Tell the old lady that hit you she did this too :D . Seems like every time you do work to one of the other cars that same one acts like it needs more attention. Hope you get her fixed up and back on the road again.
unclenick
08-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Tell the old lady that hit you she did this too :D . Seems like every time you do work to one of the other cars that same one acts like it needs more attention. Hope you get her fixed up and back on the road again.

:D :D

I needed a good laugh, thanks man! :D
NY90RedSC
08-01-2005, 10:44 PM
Man Nick..I am so sorry to hear about your car. As rotten as this sounds, it makes me feel better after what I did to my SC last night. (See post in non-tech forum)
I know it's discouraging, but I really hope you fix this one up. After all the hard work it would be a shame to watch it all go to waste. :(
As for the cause, it looks like the wrist pin may have seized on the connecting rod and it just started detonating with each revolution of the crank. Once it starts coming apart, it doesn't take long for catastrophic damage to occur, as evidenced by the pieces you have found from your engine.
Again, I am really sorry to hear about your car. Wish there was something I could do to help. :(
Flip
08-02-2005, 09:08 AM
Nick, Holy **** man, what a string of bad luck you had lately with the SC. How bad is the rest of the car? Like you said you have put allot of hard work, time and $$$$ into that SC just to have it go up in smoke. I know I would be in shock… Let us know if you need anything..

Maybe you dropped a valve? Looks like the remains of a 289 that I had years ago that dropped a valve and blew the piston, broke the rod, etc… Have to pull that side off to see what happened.
the-big-e
08-02-2005, 10:03 AM
Sorry to hear about your SC... :(

At least you are alright..... :rolleyes:

She is :mad: at you right now because of the 35th that is getting all of the attention at this time.....

What other damage occurred during the fire?

Is it fixable?
unclenick
08-02-2005, 10:18 AM
Nick, Holy **** man, what a string of bad luck you had lately with the SC. How bad is the rest of the car? Like you said you have put allot of hard work, time and $$$$ into that SC just to have it go up in smoke. I know I would be in shock… Let us know if you need anything..

Maybe you dropped a valve? Looks like the remains of a 289 that I had years ago that dropped a valve and blew the piston, broke the rod, etc… Have to pull that side off to see what happened.

I have some minor fire damage to a couple of harnesses underneath the car, mainly on right side of motor, melted wires to starter, o2 sensor harness, right mount slightly charred, oil sending/pressure (on oil pan) unit burnt/in a million pieces, wire to the oil unit smoked, ect. It sucks BIG time. :(

I guess she was really mad at me for leaving her outside this weekend instead of being in the nice dry garage where the 35th is parked.

This car is freaking possesed.....I swear. :mad:
unclenick
08-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Sorry to hear about your SC... :(

At least you are alright..... :rolleyes:

She is :mad: at you right now because of the 35th that is getting all of the attention at this time.....

What other damage occurred during the fire?

Is it fixable?

Yea it is fixable, but I don't know if I want to go through it all over again.

I need some time to really think about it.
the-big-e
08-02-2005, 01:46 PM
I showed your pictures to my mechanic/drag racer and he said that it looks like the motor hydrolocked because of the way the rod was twisted....
Sweet90SC
08-02-2005, 02:40 PM
Believe me..the pictures look good compared to how it looks up close... :( .. It almost made me ill....
unclenick
08-02-2005, 06:47 PM
I showed your pictures to my mechanic/drag racer and he said that it looks like the motor hydrolocked because of the way the rod was twisted....

I wont really know what happened until I get the heads off the car. I do not think it hydrolocked because the coolant and bottle are full, unless an injector hung open and flooded the cylinder.....who knows. I will tear off the heads by the end of week and find out what the heck caused the grenade to go off!
the-big-e
08-03-2005, 08:58 AM
It sounds to me like your car was trying to commit suicide......

I have heard that quite a few of them have been on sustained life support for long periods of time..... ;)
Evil Inside
08-03-2005, 01:57 PM
It sounds to me like your car was trying to commit suicide......

I have heard that quite a few of them have been on sustained life support for long periods of time..... ;)


Mine is "chryogenically frozen" until I can find a cure for her illness...me not having time or money.
the-big-e
08-03-2005, 03:11 PM
Good one......

LMAO.....
unclenick
08-03-2005, 04:52 PM
Got the heads off the car today. Head Gasket is in perfect condition, intake gaskets are in perfect condition, no "washed out" cylinders, so the whole theory of hydrolocking the engine is now out the window. The head is destroyed on the left side, no bent rods either! Now this is what appears to have happened. I have Autolite APP2545 double plat plugs in car, the cylinder the is missing the piston, the park plug is missing the electrode and the porcelin( I am sure I spelled it wrong) :confused: ! Could the plug have been defective and and caused the electrode to break off and smash the piston to pieces?

I will bring camera to work tomorrow and post pics :(

It is a sad day in the shop around here. I still cannot believe this engine, or what is left of it!
unclenick
08-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Here is the right side of oil pan.....what is left. Notice the oil pick up tube, yes that is pieces of the number 3 piston and whatever else went crunch!


http://images.snapfish.com/3446338723232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E234%3B%3D429%3D537%3DX ROQDF%3E23239%3A7%3A%3B6592ot1lsi
Cobra85
08-03-2005, 09:09 PM
Nick,
Geez ..... sorry to hear that your motor took a dump. Maybe you could use the crank from this motor and put it in the blue junker motor, if you still have it.
Hey, I know someone who has a short block :rolleyes: , and another person I know has a whole motor :D Let me know if I can be any help.
Glenn
Sweet90SC
08-04-2005, 12:52 AM
looks ugly don't it... :(
NY90RedSC
08-04-2005, 09:30 AM
! Could the plug have been defective and and caused the electrode to break off and smash the piston to pieces?




Anything's possible, but it would seem to me if the plug failed you would have developed a miss or been given some other indication that something was amiss in your engine before everything just exploded like that.
I've had electrodes break off a spark plug before and it actully broke the valve and I developed a skip right off the bat. At first I thought a plug wire had burned through or something, and I just kept driving it. It didn't only take about 3 miles before serious problems developed and my problem went from bad to worse in a hurry. But, I had a prior indication and i chose to ignore the miss.
How old were the components in the engine? Is it possible the material in the piston was defective? With the detonation that occurred in that cylinder, it's more likely a piece of piston flying around in the cylinder was the culprit for the broken ceramic and electrode of that plug.
I'm just throwing possibilities out there for you Nick. With the amount of catastrophic damage done, it's going to be very hard to tell exactly what happened first without having a specialist test all the pieces and components.
I truly do hope you decide to fix the car. After all that work it would be a shame to see it fall by the wayside, even though I know you've got to be discouraged as hell right now. Again, if there's anything I can do...
Flip
08-04-2005, 09:31 AM
Got the heads off the car today. Head Gasket is in perfect condition, intake gaskets are in perfect condition, no "washed out" cylinders, so the whole theory of hydrolocking the engine is now out the window. The head is destroyed on the left side, no bent rods either! Now this is what appears to have happened. I have Autolite APP2545 double plat plugs in car, the cylinder the is missing the piston, the park plug is missing the electrode and the porcelin( I am sure I spelled it wrong) :confused: ! Could the plug have been defective and and caused the electrode to break off and smash the piston to pieces?

I will bring camera to work tomorrow and post pics :(

It is a sad day in the shop around here. I still cannot believe this engine, or what is left of it!

Nick,

I guess the plug could have done that but I would suspect that it broke when the piston came apart. It does sound like something was sucked into that cylinder. I can’t imagine the piston just exploding on it’s own under normal driving (even yours or mine for that matter). It’s the best theory going at this time. A guy in Kissimmee did have a 94 SC that he was parting out and wanted to unload the whole motor intact, not sure if he still has it.
Good luck man.
unclenick
08-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Nick,
Geez ..... sorry to hear that your motor took a dump. Maybe you could use the crank from this motor and put it in the blue junker motor, if you still have it.
Hey, I know someone who has a short block :rolleyes: , and another person I know has a whole motor :D Let me know if I can be any help.
Glenn

Glenn, if you dont mind, find out for how much for complete motor or short block. E-mail or PM me. Thnaks, Nick.
Cobra85
08-05-2005, 11:42 AM
Nick,
THe whole motor is the one that came out of my 93 that was totaled last year. You know the milage it had on it. The other belongs to Bryan. PM him and ask if he wants to sell it. If your interested in my motor, PM me and we'll talk price.
Glenn