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victor malvar
09-29-2005, 02:17 PM
HELLO EVERYONE,

We have finalized our negotiations with Ford regarding the Re-Manufactured Short and Long block program.

We are glad to announce that the results are better than we expected...

We are able to purchase the short block and the long block at incredible pricing. These engines go through a final inspection process. They take 3 hours time to check everything is 100% before it is shipped out to you. They come to you in a sealed container so there no air or humidity,dust,enviromentals or anything than can contaminate your re-manned engine. We can obtain any size engine from a 1.3L to 7.5L or a (460 c.i.d.) This is better than just a crated engine because of the final inspection and the sealed container.

The prices can vary depending on minor details. The stock oil pump comes with the engine. If you care to upgrade to the 1994 to 1995 oil pump,you can Ford install it before you put your engine is shipped. The oil pump is not a major job. If you need it installed by Ford,it will cost you more than if a good friend or a well known mechanic can do this for you. ( We recommend this avenue.) If you are satisfied with just a stock oil pump, this of course will reduce your cost of time and labor. We can start taking orders at anytime. We have placed a Poll of 30 day duration to see how many of you would want to save a good chunk of money on a good engine and a three year or 36,000 mile warranty on your engine, whichever comes first. Some restrictions may apply. Please take a moment and vote on the poll so we can better help the SC community regarding supply and demand of the engines.

We are able to facilitate the shipping and save you $$$ by using our carrier. The only thing on this option is that you would need to have a Watkins motor line terminal in your area and you would have to pick it up directly at the terminal.If you have no terminal within 50 miles or so, we can work on options for you. We have special discount with Watkins. This is just a way that we are able to help you and at the same time,save as much $$$ as possible. If your within 100 miles from central Florida shpping is very minimal.
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We have a Re-Manufactured engine in my 1990 SC, I have ran it hard without a hitch. The compression is awesome!!!The Re-manned engine is a growing trend, and we wanted to get on the ground floor of this growing demand for the direct replacement of the 3.8L SC engine or any other engine.It is also far better than hiring someone to reuild your engine for more $$$ possibly no experience or a warranty. We have already sold a few and the end results have been very good. They will accept all cores, even with a hole coming out the side of the bock, from a blown rod etc.The engine core must have the pistons and all internal components.We will accept any serious inquiries. We prefer phone conversations regarding this engine transplant and followed up by emails. Many Mustang owners are doing this and really like the results.

Thank you for your time.
Victor
www.spinningwheels-sc.com
spinningwheels-sc@earthlink.net
352-732-5013
Inquiring Minds want to know :)

XxSlowpokexX
09-29-2005, 02:26 PM
I guess what woudl need ot be addressed is..

IS it a standard 3.8?

Stang 3.8's, 89-93 SC 3.8's, and 94/95 3.8 SC short or long blocks are different.

Different heads...pistons....cranks...oil pumps..etc

SO how do we know what we are getting?

XxSlowpokexX
09-29-2005, 02:27 PM
rods....................camsssss

T@Sound-Xtreme
09-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Also whats the BASE PRICE, as in starting price for an sc reman?

I dont think everyone should have to call you just to check what they start at, I can understand if you vary the options to call, but a base line price for the whole world to see would be nice. ;)


Tyler

Toms-SC
09-29-2005, 03:38 PM
I guess what woudl need ot be addressed is..

IS it a standard 3.8?

Stang 3.8's, 89-93 SC 3.8's, and 94/95 3.8 SC short or long blocks are different.

Different heads...pistons....cranks...oil pumps..etc

SO how do we know what we are getting?

One you see the engine 'SC' is stamped on the heads & the block. :)

victor malvar
09-29-2005, 07:47 PM
This is exactly why I wanted to address every question one at a time. Yes, OF COURSE there is a difference. I do believe most of the members here know the difference between the short and long block. Most of us also know that the 1994 and 1995 engines are different from the 1989 to 1993. There are several options being offered. The poll we placed is to determine what you all would prefer. I don't want to confuse anyone or place information on the board that may vary from one person's needs to another. I have all the information available for any different scenario, location, cores, cams, pistons...they are Ford products unless you want to top it with something more custom. .

Is it a standard 3.8?... No,it is a 3.8L SC engine but we can also provide the standard 3.8L for the Stang, and the 94-95 Thunderbird and we can get both the short and long blocks. We can even get the 3.8L sc engine for a Stang transplant for those who may want to take the plunge!

The crank is forged for the SC and the rest of the components are stock SC camshaft, Pistons, The Oil pumps are all the same.
how do you know what you are getting???? You will get exactly what you ask for. Guaranteed.

This is why every person may want something a little different. Sure, I can give you a base price....but why??? There are too many personal options to be able to give a base price. That is what I mean when I ask for emails or phone calls from those who are genuinely interested and we can address ALL the INDIVIDUALS' questions at once.The phone is much easier for us. I cannot answer all questions on these posts because of the broad spectrum of questions and options. I don't enjoy my posts getting hi-jacked either.I would like to accommodate everyone equally so I ask you to please call me or send us an email.We are sure you will be exchanging notes somewhat. I just want to avoid another fiasco on these forums.
If you're SERIOUSLY interested in prices and availability, call and you will get a price.
Tyler...why don't you call or email me and let me know what you are looking for specifcally and I will quote you. Then you can post the quote for the whole world to see. It's that simple.
Thanks for your cooperation I will do my best to take care of everyone... one at a time through direct communications. This way there are no confusions or hard feelings in any posts. Thanks
Victor
352-732-5013
spinningwheels-sc@earthlink.net

92strokedbird
09-29-2005, 08:15 PM
You could always use the" Saturn "approach and list your prices with options on this thread.At least that way you can see what the price is upfront instead of having to phone and find out. :rolleyes:

XxSlowpokexX
09-29-2005, 11:13 PM
One you see the engine 'SC' is stamped on the heads & the block.


Be to late if I already recieved and paid for it :p

Heads for 94-5 SC's are different suppossedly

Cams are different between years and auto vs stick

94-95 do have a better oil pump and a windage tray stock

94-95 have different pistons and rods (full floating)

When someone offres a remanned engine Ford or otherwise its generally based on whatever core they get. So chances are it could consist of any of the above combinations. Unless they are making custom remanned engines.

Just curious as people will want to know

kenewagner
09-29-2005, 11:44 PM
I know I will be talking to Victor about one of these engines. The way I see it if you are really interested in buying one of these engines you would be running to the phone to talk to him. I would rather talk to the seller and work out all the details and cost one on one from victor instead of as a group. Everytime I deal with victor he is straight, and up front with me. I dont see a lot of other people working as hard as he does to provide performace options for our cars. If no one else saids it, than I will. Thanks Victor for giving us some more performace options that we did not have before. My 2 cents anyway.

Ken

Payton
09-30-2005, 12:03 AM
I know I will be talking to Victor about one of these engines. The way I see it if you are really interested in buying one of these engines you would be running to the phone to talk to him. I would rather talk to the seller and work out all the details and cost one on one from victor instead of as a group. Everytime I deal with victor he is straight, and up front with me. I dont see a lot of other people working as hard as he does to provide performace options for our cars. If no one else saids it, than I will. Thanks Victor for giving us some more performace options that we did not have before. My 2 cents anyway.

Ken
You sound like Tom-SC ;)
I would like to know basic price as well.

Toms-SC
09-30-2005, 12:32 AM
You sound like Tom-SC ;)
I would like to know basic price as well.

Yea, sounding like a happy customer must be out of the norm :p

T@Sound-Xtreme
09-30-2005, 07:44 AM
I know I will be talking to Victor about one of these engines. The way I see it if you are really interested in buying one of these engines you would be running to the phone to talk to him. I would rather talk to the seller and work out all the details and cost one on one from victor instead of as a group. Everytime I deal with victor he is straight, and up front with me. I dont see a lot of other people working as hard as he does to provide performace options for our cars. If no one else saids it, than I will. Thanks Victor for giving us some more performace options that we did not have before. My 2 cents anyway.

Ken

Im Really interested in any engine, But if the price starts at $4000 I dont want to waste victors time calling him, make sense :confused: Im glad you had a good experience with him, but please remember nothing is being questioned here as to what kind of person he is, its all about the engines, hes not under attack, we just want basic facts. I do see alot of other people trying to get us better parts. May not be as many as victor is trying, but for instance, Im trying to get us one, see the waterpump thread in non-tech. Im trying arnt I?



Victor,

First off let me say I am sorry if I came off the wrong way. I just know when i was in Iraq, looking for motors for my 94 SC, i contacted every place that I could. Just to find out how much, so my question of wanting to know a base price is legit, If I can go to Autozone and pay $1200 for a reman, and your base price is $3000, then I'll prolly go to Autozone, see what Im saying? It would not just be for me, but also for your bussiness, If you posted 89-93 base price and 94-95 base price, and ppl would see it and say "oh victor is offering a 92 motor starting at $1000, lets call him and find out what else we can get on it" thats how I would do it. Its just nice to know your pricing options. But I'll email you to find out.



Just my .03 cents




Tyler

kenewagner
09-30-2005, 07:57 AM
Yea, sounding like a happy customer must be out of the norm :p

I would agree with that. I also think if you are a seriously looking for a rebuilt engine that you can have it your way, you will be on the phone talking to Victor. If you are a just a tire kicker you will be wanting this post to be a mile long and criticize a base price, or the price of the heads or what are the options & specs of the cam, etc etc. His post was to let the community know they have an option and where to go to get it. If I sound like TomSC than I will take that as a compliment

Tyler: I have talked to Victor and I liked what I heard, I think you will too

Ken

83GT460
09-30-2005, 01:28 PM
I hope that you all realize that Ford Motor Co is not in the business of rebuilding engines, they simply purchase rebuilt engines from companies such as AER. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with these engines just that they are not done by Ford nor will there be anything special about them, just a basic rebuild.

victor malvar
09-30-2005, 02:39 PM
I hope that you all realize that Ford Motor Co is not in the business of rebuilding engines, they simply purchase rebuilt engines from companies such as AER. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with these engines just that they are not done by Ford nor will there be anything special about them, just a basic rebuild.


Hi, I just called the Rep. Yes these are subcontracted by Ford.These engines have to meet Ford specifications, They are Inpected by Ford technicians according to Allen my Rep. All the literature and logos are FORD.GM Bodies are made Fisher Ect.I agree they are good engines and backed by Ford. Thank you for your Imput.
Thanx!
352-732-5013

lube70
09-30-2005, 10:52 PM
I have a Ford Re-Man motor in my 95 SC and it's great!!!!

The engines usually run around (again, going back about two years ago), long block for about $2100, short block for about $1400.

Both have full rotating assembly and the long block has clean heads and a little hotter cam.

The warranties are good also. 3 yr/36,000 miles on STOCK ENGINES!!!! HINT HINT!!!

In case anything happens, YOU MUST REMOVE ALL BOLT-ON'S!!!!!!


Anyway, great deal if you need it.


Don

victor malvar
10-01-2005, 11:28 AM
I have a Ford Re-Man motor in my 95 SC and it's great!!!!

The engines usually run around (again, going back about two years ago), long block for about $2100, short block for about $1400.

Both have full rotating assembly and the long block has clean heads and a little hotter cam.

The warranties are good also. 3 yr/36,000 miles on STOCK ENGINES!!!! HINT HINT!!!

In case anything happens, YOU MUST REMOVE ALL BOLT-ON'S!!!!!!


Anyway, great deal if you need it.
Hello,
Don is right-on! Believe it or not, the prices we have are similar considering those prices were from two years ago. There have been some positive changes on the 3.8L SC models 89-95.Now, all the 1989 to 1995 have the late model oil pump which is a plus. The prices are still very close to what he states above. Maybe we can do even better than that. You must have a core equivalent or 98.5% the same as what you are ordering whether the short block or Long block. On the long block we are checking to see if there would be any discounts available if you wanted to use your own heads instead of the new heads that come with the engine which arrives in a sealed container. It may save you guys some $$$. We are trying to get everyone the best deal we can. Also we are trying to find out if they would trade a 3.8L SC engine for the 4.2L engine.There is a core charge but they will accept blocks in almost any condition...as long as they get a core with the componets you order. I plan to have a slow and relaxing day with Diane. We do not have very many of those. I want to thank those of you who have called. It was nice talking with you all. We will be working on everything you asked of us. If you email us please tell us your full name, address and zip code so we can get you some figures on the shipping. We can not quote you without your full name address and phone please. Sometimes we may need to call you for a quick question or a quick answer. This helps us help you. Thanks!

intercooled89xr
10-02-2005, 03:00 PM
hello everyone i just wanted to come on and say that i have been looking to get a new or remaned engine and as some have posted here they want to see a base price well i had so many questions that i could not ask on here so i gave him a call it was about 11:30pm and he was there so i told what i was looking for and went over alot of my questions even when i was talking to him there was others calling well i was really happy that i got to talk to him and have go over things he is a really nice guy i mean for him to talk to me for 2hrs to make sure we got to most of what i wanted there are so many things that can be done on the engine well i can go on and on about how happy im about gettign a great deal and dealing wth a good guy so all i can tell you if your really for an engine then it would not hurt to give him a call he even offered to call me so i dont have to pay for the call just little things like that well i just wanted to post here and say this stuff hope everyone gets a great deal and gets there cars back on the road.

steven

92strokedbird
10-02-2005, 04:25 PM
So how much,for such a long post and no price.

intercooled89xr
10-02-2005, 05:10 PM
well man the post was to tell you if you want a price then you should call i think you will be happy i was saying im with what i have been told why would you need to know the price i was told so again if you want a price then give him a call victor is a very help full guy im sure you will be happy after talking to him and sorry if the post was to long have a good day.

steven

darkstar_one
11-10-2005, 05:17 AM
is this still alive? :confused:

victor malvar
11-10-2005, 08:00 AM
Hello Darkstar_one...and all others concerned.

YES! IT IS ALIVE!!!
The poll is done we have a fair Idea of what people want clearly. Or so it seems like that is what the polls say.

We are done negotiating. My only question I have which we are meeting next week because the rep is on a one week vacation or seminar?

That is how we are going to handle the logistics. If we purchase the Engines in my location I want them to ship the engines people order from their nearest location to the customer . I have been waiting for the poll to end and I believe 30 days have passed. I will put some rough pricing on the site here next week. From what I gather the Ford engines are better suited for our needs more than the Motorcraft engines. Although the Motorcraft engines are cheaper. I have some reservations in some areas about the Motorcraft VS. the Ford sealed container engines. This is the reason I have wanted to talk to every Individual that is interested Nothing bad against Motorcraft, but for our needs I think the Ford Sealed units maybe a little better suited. It's like buying a car, you need to ask questions and I give you answers. Answering a bunch of post questions takes time and the phone is quicker, to understand certain things that are hard to explain in this setting. We can get you alot of the services. But a call would be beneficial to you.

We are distributors and can possibly work different deals per Individual.

Thank you everyone for participating in this poll. These are good engines and we can get you a great deal. It's best to email us and set up a time to talk then go at it.

Happy Turkey Day to Everyone.

Victor, Diane, George and Associates.

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victor malvar
11-10-2005, 08:19 AM
is this still alive? :confused:


Really a awesome page you found... It brings is right to our doors. It's awesome but not pretty at the sametime. Compliments to you and your choice!

Thank you.

unclenick
11-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Being in the automotive business, who is the rebuilder for these engines? Last time I checked, Ford has their own own re-man department. Last month I ordered a Ford-Reman engine for a customer, it came in a Ford turck, Ford crate and had a Ford warranty. Which if the customer has a problem, they can go to ANY Ford Dealer for warranty issues with engine.
Also, for $2100 I can get a Jasper Re-man long block complete with valve covers and intake mainfold, with new style oil pump, moly rings, ect...the works with a 3 yr/75,000 mile warranty and if the motor fails they will pay for warranty labor rates to R & R engine(which we all know is a royal pain in the a$$ on these cars). Also for $250 they'll extend the warranty for 5 yrs, 100,000 miles. Just another option.

pablon2
11-14-2005, 10:09 AM
Also, for $2100 I can get a Jasper Re-man long block complete with valve covers and intake mainfold, with new style oil pump, moly rings, ect...the works with a 3 yr/75,000 mile warranty and if the motor fails they will pay for warranty labor rates to R & R engine(which we all know is a royal pain in the a$$ on these cars). Also for $250 they'll extend the warranty for 5 yrs, 100,000 miles. Just another option.


Sounds like a good deal you have with the Jasper engines. Perhaps you'd get farther with it if you started your own thread? :)

unclenick
11-14-2005, 06:35 PM
I am not trying to sell anything here, I am just clearly stating another option for an engine for these cars. I have no problem spending $$$$$$$$$$$ for a quality engine, but when the maker is unknown or it is "claimed" to be a Ford Product I am a little weary. I'll order mine from Jasper or any Ford dealer that way they can pay for the labor claim when the danm thing blows again.

victor malvar
11-15-2005, 08:18 AM
There is more to all this. Ford, Motorcraft and Jasper. I like Jasper as well. I have found out some things through the grapevine. Call me and I can explain. I'm hesitant to explain on a post. (there is a reason possibly unknown to many) I have done my homework here. I also have my prices! I negotiated. I had the rep here from one of the companies for 3 hrs. Thanks Nick and Pablo! Call me and I'll explain some of what I have learned since I started this.There is a little more than meets the eye. Nick I'll see you soon and explain in person... Or call.
Thanks Guys. Call me! Or I'll call you! It's been awhile. Anyone can buy these. I have just done the ground work and can tell you more about certain things I have heard but I would not write about them here.You never know about rumors. There are rumors that get started and it's not right to place them on a public forum. Who knows if what I have found out is true or not? I'm looking into it further. I also have prices lower than $2100.00 for a long block or short block. I'm just trying to arrange shipping nation wide, and other options such as being able to keep your ported heads if you have some you want to keep.We want to get a credit for the heads if you prefer to keep yours. We could then deduct the heads from the price of the engine without the heads for instance. Either we ship it or they do. We would use the least expensive option. We are offering more than just an engine in some cases. Look at the poll. This is the final step we are working on. I will be out today for awhile, I'll be home early in the morning and gone by 10:00 AM eastern.I know you both have my phone no. Pablon... how is your engine coming along? Is It finished? Hope all is well with you all. Take care and stay in touch!352-732-5013 These are Ford sealed container engines with FORD on the Box and a 3 year 36,000 mile warranty. I'll see about any further warranties.
Victor