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T@Sound-Xtreme
09-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Ok, Heres what has been asked on our part, they want to know #'s. Meaning how many people do we have that would be interested.

Heres what i need to know, are all 3.8 water pumps the same? Does the SC have a different waterpump form the NA 3.8? That way i know how far and wide i can spread this.

Jack Wilson wrote:


Stewart is considering producing an upgrade hi-flow water pump for this but we really need more information...like how many 3.8sc engines are out there, application..year, make ,models etc. If you could supply this we would have a better understanding of the demand and this will definetly help get this off the ground.Thanks!

Here is the link guys

http://www.stewartcomponents.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tech;action=display;num=1116948268; start=0#11

Show your interest there................

Tyler


P.S. Can i get a sticky on this?

ThunderDave
09-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Tyler, I think the n/a 3.8 water pump is different. Advance Auto tried to give me one and it was wrong. Someone else may have some hard info, but from my experience, I think they are different.

ThunderCoupe
09-29-2005, 04:28 PM
I added myself to the list...Come on guys, let's step up to the plate and get something done. If we can show that our products have been profitable to other companies, new companies will be more likely to support us.

Car2n
09-29-2005, 05:47 PM
The N/A pump is different than the SC pump.
The pump for all years of SC'c are identical.

Flip
09-29-2005, 06:28 PM
Added my two to the list. :D

rzibilske77
09-29-2005, 08:31 PM
count me in :)

xThunderbirdSCx
09-29-2005, 08:53 PM
id like one count me in

XxSlowpokexX
09-29-2005, 11:04 PM
This has only been going on for like 3 years or so now!...

T@Sound-Xtreme
09-30-2005, 07:47 AM
This has only been going on for like 3 years or so now!...


Damon, I know i picked up after i saw the post the Duffy left in the members area. Id still really like to see this happen, and I am pretty good at bugging people, they should just pray i dont get a direct phone # to this guy, I will call him everyday if need be. Ill try my hardest to get this to go, so just add your name to the list ;)

Tyler


HOW ABOUT A STICKY ON THIS?????

the-big-e
09-30-2005, 08:48 AM
I just posted for the two SC's in my stable......

I sure could have used one last weekend when I replaced the water pump on SC #3.....

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-03-2005, 08:04 AM
Please do not let this thread die.


Duffy can i get a sticky PLEASE :D :D :D



on Sep 30th, 2005, 1:57am, Duffy Floyd wrote:
Mr. Wilson,

Not to damped your current interest now in developing a HP Water Pump for the Ford 3.8L Supercharged Application but please tell us the truth. Is this REALLY something Stewart is interested in or is this lip service? This is the third attempt at getting Stewart Components interested in this product application. Over 3 years ago I sent you a water pump for development purposes. The last go around I identified a casting manufacturer for you to get the stock pump castings for your production after having your board flooded within three days for requests for around 60 pumps. Over 5 years ago Stewart was contacted by a vendor willing to purchase 100 pumps for this application. Simply asked....is Stewart going to do this or not? If there is really interest the community will repond appropriately.

There were approximately 64,000 of these engines and cars made between 1989 and 1995. You can do the math with the expected loss rates and figure how many might be left. The SCCoA alone has over 600 members the majority of who are performance oriented. There is NO ALTERNATIVE HIPO water pump available. All years used the same water pump. The pump already has an oversized shaft and bearing due to the supercharging loading of the serpentine belt system. All we need is an improved impeller since it is doubtful we are talking a Stage II or higher version for this limited application.

What other information do you need to make a decision?

JACK WILSON WROTE:
STEWART IS VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND THIS INFORMATION WILL DEFINETLY HELP MOVE THINGS ALONG. AGAIN, THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST!


Tyler

XxSlowpokexX
10-03-2005, 02:20 PM
My name has been there!..Add it again? lmao

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-03-2005, 02:36 PM
Well, i dunno, its in the list of people?


I was really thinking we would get more interest than 20 or so people.


Tyler

hytorksc
10-03-2005, 07:05 PM
definitely count me in. i'm having cooling problems right now.

xr7rocket
10-03-2005, 09:31 PM
Sign me up

Kurt K
10-03-2005, 11:32 PM
My name has been there!..Add it again? lmao
I have to agree with Damon on this one (did I say that out loud?). I too have been on that list forever. Even if a bunch of people say they would buy one, when it comes time to collect money, usually less than half of the people actually follow through. I can understand why they are dragging their feet to build a new waterpump for us.

It would be nice if they told us a definite number of pumps required before they would consider building. Although, the number might just scare people away.

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-05-2005, 08:36 AM
I have to agree with Damon on this one (did I say that out loud?). I too have been on that list forever. Even if a bunch of people say they would buy one, when it comes time to collect money, usually less than half of the people actually follow through. I can understand why they are dragging their feet to build a new waterpump for us.

It would be nice if they told us a definite number of pumps required before they would consider building. Although, the number might just scare people away.

I think this might be a new list.



Tyler

Kurt K
10-05-2005, 11:26 PM
Added myself to the new list.

lilredstang
10-06-2005, 08:55 PM
I am game if I can get one by spring.

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-06-2005, 09:19 PM
Hey Guys, I just want everyone to know what is being said off the forums.
Thanks to Duffy for his good wording on the subject also :D


Read from bottom up:


Tyler, it's possible that we will do the casting and all but at least this will give us an idea.

Just send it to:
Stewart Components
2701 N. 30TH. St.
Escanaba, MI 49829
Attn: Mark Coyne
Thanks!
Jack



----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler Smith
To: jackie3@lexcominc.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: used pump?


Jack,

I do have a waterpump, and can get one to you provided the address.

It is my understanding that there are casting folks that already make replacement pumps that have already been identifed that are willing to sell their castings to other vendors. I think that you would have a much better time of it trying to sell complete pumps rather than reman versions. In the end it is your decision. I do also understand the money savings standpoint.

Please give me an address that i may ship to.

Thanks for your time and willingness to finally get this thing going,

Tyler Smith



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jack Wilson <jackie3@lexcominc.net>
To: smitty1258@msn.com
Subject: used pump?
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:11:24 -0400


Hi Tyler, would you be able to possibly get a used 3.8 pump that you could send us? I know this has been done before but we somehow managed to misplace it during our last two moves. What we are really pursuing is the possibility of just machining a better impeller and somewhat tighter tolerances for an upgrade. In other words, the customer would be able to send in their pump for the upgrade vs. Stewart having to make a new casting etc. which would be much cheaper for the customer.
Thanks!
Jack Wilson/Stewart Components

Hock
10-07-2005, 10:13 AM
put me on that there list

talonhead
10-08-2005, 06:34 PM
Put me on the list. it ought to go well with Mike38sc's rad that I got (not installed yet- story and pics to follow on diff forum)
Mike Handley

SCchick89
10-09-2005, 04:54 PM
count me in i'll take 2

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-10-2005, 08:45 AM
PLEASE EVERYONE GO TO THE LINK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD AND ADD YOURSELF TO THERE LIST.


You do not need to register as guest posting is allowed.

Thanks,
Tyler

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-13-2005, 08:49 PM
let keep it going guys


Thanks,
Tyler

Zanary
10-19-2005, 12:36 PM
I'm on there now.

nanatothesixth
10-22-2005, 11:05 AM
my self i would need 4]

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-22-2005, 04:42 PM
please add yourself to the link on page one, monday il find out if jack has received any of the pumps.

Tyler

T@Sound-Xtreme
10-25-2005, 08:51 AM
Almost to 50 guys.

Tyler

Jim Cook
11-05-2005, 05:48 PM
Just signed up for two (again) so we're inching closer.

xr7rocket
11-10-2005, 02:43 PM
Whats the status?

Grims95SC
11-11-2005, 03:42 AM
Another name added to the list :)

brent889
11-12-2005, 01:37 AM
hey i'll take one too

Grims95SC
11-19-2005, 09:26 PM
Posted on the 17th

Stewart has obtained a front cover/oem waterpump for the 3.8sc engine. We will be running test for any improvements that we can make vs. the oem pump soon. Hopefully we will be able to do this and offer this product soon. Please keep in touch at our web-site's Q&A forum for updates on this.
Thanks for your patience!
Currently the list sits at 55 people.

T@Sound-Xtreme
11-22-2005, 05:43 PM
Posted on the 17th

Currently the list sits at 55 people.


I just wanted to say that I just spoke with Jack and he said it should be very soon.

Thanks,
Tyler

SC/ME
11-22-2005, 05:49 PM
Add Me To The Wish List !

T@Sound-Xtreme
12-10-2005, 07:24 PM
Stewart is now set to begin testing the upgraded water pump for the 3.8sc engine that many of you have requested. If anyone has an oem or after market pump that we can compare to it would be helpful. We need it asap as we're set to do this monday of the upcoming week.Please send to...Stewart Components 2701 N. 30Th ST. Escanaba, MI. 49829...ATTN: Mark Coyne. Thanks!


Send Away Boys!!!!!!


Tyler

ThunderGodRacin
12-12-2005, 11:43 AM
I'm in. Need a new water pump anyways.

XxSlowpokexX
12-12-2005, 12:35 PM
I;m guessing they ripped apart the ones they had gotten? Wonder if they can test HP drain:O)

NJTBIRD89
12-27-2005, 12:28 AM
Always good to find upgrades..
Count me In as well

T@Sound-Xtreme
01-06-2006, 12:01 PM
Stewart has run test on the oem pump and is now working on different impeller's and possible internal casting improvements to improve the pumps performance. We hope to have this done very soon. Thanks!



Just so you all know, I am still working on this.



Tyler

Hock
01-06-2006, 09:53 PM
Cool!!!!!!!:cool:

brent889
02-12-2006, 11:33 PM
how is this coming?

RedCoupe92
02-19-2006, 12:04 AM
And so the interest grows.

NJTBIRD89
04-11-2006, 08:45 PM
Wondering on the progress???

XR7 Dave
07-02-2006, 06:36 PM
A prototype has been made and has been tested (I have it). No word on when Stewart plans to start making them available to the public but I wanted to let you know that the prototype is out in the "field".

TwoToneThunder
07-02-2006, 07:26 PM
hey dave whats your personal opinion is it worth buying? or is it not worth it

Grims95SC
07-02-2006, 07:47 PM
Forget opinions, its more important to know that at x000 rpm it pumps x% more coolant and lowers the engine temperature by x*C. All this is assuming that they even make it.

XR7 Dave
07-02-2006, 08:54 PM
The impeller is a much improved design that shouldn't cavitate at high rpm and should be much more efficient at low rpms. It's just a much better pump design. I will be curious to see how much it costs though.

TwoToneThunder
07-03-2006, 12:54 AM
Forget opinions, its more important to know that at x000 rpm it pumps x% more coolant and lowers the engine temperature by x*C. All this is assuming that they even make it.


i like opinions from people who have a big part with super coupes in general especially since im going to be going through dave for the autorotor here in a year or so and tuning

Randy N Connie
08-16-2006, 08:42 AM
So what is the GPM compaired to the
stock pump ?

Randy

Grims95SC
10-30-2006, 08:36 PM
Any news? Haven't heard anything in over 2 months.

Greg Coleman
11-04-2006, 01:29 PM
:confused: :confused:

THE BIRDMAN
11-30-2006, 08:28 AM
I'm Totally Game. Put Me On The List:d

Toms-SC
01-22-2007, 07:30 PM
Why is this thread still a sticky?

Greg Coleman
01-28-2007, 08:15 PM
So what happened with this?:confused: :D

mywhite89
01-29-2007, 12:18 AM
I would still buy one!!!!!!!! I am about ready to buy a new stocker, I have been waiting for this "rally" to happen but my engine is just about done, I am ready for a damned pump! As long as it doesn't cost much more then $200.00 I will for sure buy one.

chris

90SC_Crimson
02-23-2007, 10:14 PM
I would still buy one!!!!!!!! I am about ready to buy a new stocker, I have been waiting for this "rally" to happen but my engine is just about done, I am ready for a damned pump! As long as it doesn't cost much more then $200.00 I will for sure buy one.

chris

Much like white here i am in to cuz i will need one with my new jasper motor so ya as long as it isnt more then 200 im in

sleeper bird
03-26-2007, 04:03 PM
i would buy one,all for a better water pump.sign me up.

nanatothesixth
06-29-2007, 10:58 PM
it's been a year ! any word?

Grims95SC
07-03-2007, 12:17 AM
I think the word is its not happening. Can this be un-stickied? There's no reason that it should be at the top anymore.