View Full Version : MARCH Underdrives Update:
Thomas A
07-22-2002, 11:48 PM
For all you guys that were not home to refuse shipment, you will need to give March a call and speak with Randy.(with the exception of Brandon Garcia and Tory Smith. He is already aware of you guys) He will then send a UPS driver out to your house to pick them up free of charge. They should come with a UPS sticker that they will just slap on the box and take them for you. That is the way I understood it. So, I guess if your not going to be home, at least right "return to sender" on the box and sit it on
your door step. Hopefully that will get things taken care of. As far as the new ones, they should ship out either Monday or Tuesday. They have the crank pulleys made and need to get the altator pulleys made. Any, this should work alright.
Thomas
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Slysc
07-23-2002, 10:50 PM
I've spoken to Randy many times before. He is powerless or useless or both. I think we need to find out who has the authority to get the job done and talk to them.
Do you have any other contacts there? Is there a VP of sales or something?
Thomas A
07-23-2002, 10:59 PM
I haven't actually talked to anyone else. I'm sure if someone called up and asked to speak to a general sales manager or the head of the sales department that you could get ahold of someone. That might be the next step to be taken.
Thomas
pastera
07-26-2002, 04:50 PM
I just called Randy and was told soon but no date. He doesn't seem happy about getting called and told me that they are missing parts for a $50K order for Summit - sorry that doesn't cut it! They accepted the order and should get it out even if it takes a few hours of OT to make us happy.
This is really getting to me now, I want to drive my SC. Very soon I will cancel this order and get a set elsewhere.
Aaron
Thomas A
07-26-2002, 10:42 PM
I was planning on calling them up today and asking to speak with the general sales manager to try and get something done. But, I got tied up at work and didn't get a chance. I'm giong to try to call them Monday and see if I can get something done.
Thomas
Kurt K
07-29-2002, 01:50 PM
told me that they are missing parts for a $50K order for Summit - sorry that doesn't cut it!Unfortunately, this is what happens to small custom orders. March know who pays their checks, so they're not going to jeopardize their relationship with the large companys. It does suck, but there nothing we can do except wait.
Thomas A
07-30-2002, 12:23 AM
Kurt is right. It's all about having pull, or as Craig Kilborne would say "juice". At any rate, I will try to call them tommorow to remind them that we are still here, and that WE WANT OUR PULLEYS!!!! Thanks agian for your patience. I think this will really be worth it once we get them! I'm going to mention that our National meet is coming up very soon, and that we really need them before then. Maybe that will help to get the ball rolling???
Thomas
pastera
07-30-2002, 08:29 AM
If we were talking to sales, then I would understand the problem. Randy told me that he is the go-between for sales and production, therefore its his job to know if he can get a small job out in between large orders. He should have been up front about the Summit order when they first missed schedule, now it just seems like we being given the run around.
Aaron
Pablo94SC
08-01-2002, 07:15 PM
Well, I'll say this, if it isn't done by the end of August I may just have to pull out. The deal was great, but I've got repairs and other things the money could be better used for. Oh well...
Paul
Slysc
08-02-2002, 07:58 AM
Yes, we should give them a deadline. We should say, "if their not delivered by the end of the month, then you can just keep them".
BT Motorsports
08-02-2002, 02:43 PM
If things dont work out with March, the offer still stands on my part to assist in getting them made somewhere else that WILL deliver and in a timely manner.
Slysc
08-02-2002, 02:47 PM
Well... can you see if you can find someone who will make them?
All billet aluminum 3 piece set zero balanced for $150-160.
If so, I think we should do it.
BT Motorsports
08-02-2002, 02:58 PM
Let me clarify a few things for everyone first. Yes, I can get all 3 from aluminum and yes they can be from billet and yes they will be zero balanced, however, the ones March is offering are not made from a billet. You more than likely wont find billet pulleys that cheap. a going shop rate for an order of 10 or more billet sets would be in the $300 range from any reputable machine shop. I am quite certain we can offer them cheaper than that, however do not expect to see them for $150 a set. Hell, thats cheaper than retail of the ASP pulley set which is aluminum for the crank and steel for the other 2 pieces. I tried to tell everyone that March would not come through on this when this buy began since I approached them as a business about 2 years ago with an order of the same pulleys but 50 pieces (nearly double what is currently on order with them) and they wouldnt do it then.
Nettlesd
08-09-2002, 04:35 PM
Ok, everyone, I just got off the phone from talking to Randy. He talked to his shop foreman and he told me to check my credit card next Tuesday. If it hasn't been charged then I'm suppose to call him back and find out what's the hold up.
We had a good discussion and he understands where we're all coming from. So, we'll see next week.
Duane
Thomas A
08-09-2002, 07:39 PM
Very cool Duane. I actually called him today also, about 10 minutes after you did. We also had a nice little conversation, and he was very understanding. So, Tuesday will be the day. Thanks again for all your guy's patience, and for your help Duane!
Thomas
Tory Smith
08-14-2002, 01:18 PM
Today is Wednesday. Anyone have any luck yet?
Slysc
08-14-2002, 02:52 PM
I spoke with Randy yesterday (Tuesday 8/13/02) and he said they are targeting Tuesday 8/20/02 but he expects them to be done by the end of this week. I don't expect to ever see the pullies so if they do come through, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Thomas A
08-15-2002, 01:32 AM
Yeah, he told me the same thing today(8-14) What a bunch of BS. Yeah, I'll be really suprised if we ever see these things. Well see....
Thomas
Tazer999
08-22-2002, 05:13 PM
Any new news?
Pablo94SC
08-23-2002, 01:27 AM
It's almost the end of the month and things are looking bleak. I have been fighting with some other problems and that $165 can be put to use elsewhere. Sorry, but I'm going to cancel tomorrow.
Paul
SweetSc
08-26-2002, 07:52 PM
Hey Thomas:
Is March aware of the alternator to IC Clearance? Also, Do they know the 94-95 sc such as mine will require a spacer to mount the alternator pulley unlike the earlier models?
Just had a thought.
Chris
Thomas A
08-27-2002, 04:26 PM
That, I am not aware of. I did notice that the altanator pulley is pretty close to the upper IC tube. Powder Coating is being finished up today, and they "should" ship today or tommorow. If you want, you might want to give Randy a call and ask about the spacer. I had no idea about it, and probally would say the wrong thing anyway. His number up there is 734-729-9070.
Thomas
Slysc
08-28-2002, 08:25 PM
Picked up my pullies today.
They are VERY nice and VERY light.
http://members.tccoa.com/slysc/Pictures/scpullies.jpg
XR7 Dave
08-28-2002, 09:28 PM
OOoooooooo AAAAAAaaahhhhhhh
wow. :D
Slysc
08-28-2002, 10:25 PM
Check out the picture and see if you can see what's wrong.
Can you see it?
Count the ribs.
The alternator pulley is for a 7 rib belt. Ours has 8.
Worse than that, the supercharger pulley on the crankset is for a 6 rib belt. Ours has 7.:(
Doh!
I'll talk to them tomorrow and see what kind of recovery plan they can come up with. Unfortunately, I don't see how they can fix this. They are gonna have to make new crank pullies and alternator pullies.
Thomas A
08-28-2002, 11:14 PM
UN PHUCKING BELIEVABLE!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!! It had better not take them another 4 months to fix this!!!!!
Ah man......
Thomas
92bird
08-29-2002, 10:17 AM
Hmmmm...
I wonder if they'll let me keep the wrong alternator pully for my Taurus? hehehe, it uses a 7 rib belt.
Bastards. That sucks...
Slysc
08-29-2002, 02:25 PM
I spoke with Randy this morning. He appologized for the mistake. They are making new pullies and they are targeting 2 weeks for completion. They will make new crank and alternator pullies, the water pump pulley is still good.
When the pulleys arrive, refuse shippment and send them back to March.
Pablo94SC
08-29-2002, 04:01 PM
Is the main accessory belt also 7 rib? I'm just curious as to just how bad they screwed it up. I can just see it.. the main pulley is 8 rib, the alt is 7, and the jackshaft is 6. Opps. Oh, and someone needs to verify the water pump pulley is wide enough for our belts, otherwise it might cause some belts to split.
Paul
Slysc
08-29-2002, 04:22 PM
You can check it out on the picture and count them.
The crank pulley has 6 ribs for the SC, 8 ribs for the Accessory, the water pump pulley is correct, the alternator pulley is 7 rib.
I've got my water pump pulley on and the it is wide enough for the belt.
Unfortunately I pulled my dampner last night and knocked the weights out of it to put on the zero balance pulley. Now I won't be able to use my stock pulley. So my car is out of commision until I get the new pulleys.
XR7 Dave
08-29-2002, 04:23 PM
And if you already have them.....????
Did you send yours back? I'd like to keep mine.
Tory Smith
08-29-2002, 06:13 PM
Can someone please go down and hold their hand? Id have to believe that someone screwed up pretty bad on this one. How much money do you think march will be eating for this one?
Also you say 2 weeks..... So what another month and a half. ha ha. J/K
Mark Rivers
08-29-2002, 11:29 PM
Do you need to send the water pump pulley back too? Will they automatically be sending the new pullies out regardless of whether they've received the bad ones? It might be wise to hang onto the water pump pulley since it's right, that way you won't have to worry if there's a chance things could get screwed up in the re-shipment, unless they've said you must send it back.
Slysc
08-30-2002, 08:17 AM
Randy at March said to just refuse shippment. That way you wouldn't have to pay to ship them back to them. I you want to do otherwise, call him and work it out with him. 734-429-9070.
I picked mine up and installed them before I realized the problem. I've got no problem giving back the messed up crank and alt. pulleys for new ones, they are scrap, but clean T6160 scrap is what,..$.75/lb.? Although it would make a pretty cool planter, or paperweight.
ilusnforc
09-04-2002, 08:07 PM
I just got the pulleys today, sure enough they do have the wrong number of belt ribs. Do i just send everything back the way i got it? or do i hang on to the one thats actually right? and i assume that since my mom was home when they came in, i have to pay shipping to send them back now? Thanks
Tory Smith
09-05-2002, 01:33 AM
Mine were also on my doorstep when I got home today. I didn't sign for them but there they were.
I'm gonna send them back in the morning. I guess I'm just gonna eat the shipping charges.
Oh well. they are pretty!
Mark Rivers
09-06-2002, 10:59 AM
You can call March and ask to talk to Randy. He was going to arrange to have UPS come out to pick up my pullies (I wasn't somewhere where they could do that, so I just sent them back myself at my expense - was about $6.00 from where I'm at). I asked him if I needed to send the water pump pulley too and he said I didn't have to, so I didn't. So I would just send the crank and alternator pullies back. He said they should be sending out the corrected pullies by Friday (9/6) and they weren't waiting to get the wrong ones back before they send them.
Mark Rivers
Tory Smith
09-07-2002, 03:15 AM
Thanks Mark. Thomas already took car of the UPS arrangements for me.
If March is not waiting for the wrong pullies to be returned how will they know If you kept the water pump pulley or not? I’m gonna send my complete set back and don't want them to not send a water pump pulley back to me.
Mark Rivers
09-07-2002, 01:04 PM
That's a good question - I don't know. I got the impression from talking to Randy and from hearing others on this board that they were only going to correct the alternator and crank pullies and send out new ones. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong about this. So that is why I decided to ask if I should send back the water pump pulley and since it didn't matter, I decided not to - I figured it better to have one in hand than to wonder that if I sent it back, I'd get another one since it's not clear that they're sending an entire set of new pullies. I'm sure that if you refused shipment or sent them all back, that they'll get you a water pump pulley somehow - either in the replacement shipment or later. I guess we'll be finding out next week or so whether some of us will be ending up with an extra water pump pulley or not.
Mark Rivers
Pablo94SC
09-09-2002, 10:26 AM
Ok guys, I just got off the phone with Randy. He said if you've got the pulleys to go ahead and keep the water pump pulley. That should make it easier for return shipping.
He also looks for them to be out by this weekend. So there you have it.
Paul
Tory Smith
09-14-2002, 02:17 AM
Anyone get the new set yet? Nobody has been by to pick up the old ones yet.... Just checkin.
Thanks
Thomas A
09-14-2002, 10:10 PM
Tory, you should be getting your pulleys Monday or Tuesday. There will be a shipping label inside the new package that you can use on the old one.
Thomas
pastera
09-16-2002, 07:47 AM
I got mine in one friday, guess what the alternator pulley DOES NOT FIT!!
The hub on the back of the pulley has too large of an OD and it interferes with the alternator case. The original pulley's hub has an OD of 0.996" on mine and the alternator case ID is about 1.12". The hub on the UD pulley is about 1.16".
I'm hope no-one else has this problem and mine is a fluke, but I'm not sending it back, it will be cheaper to sent it to my machine shop to turn.
Aaron
SweetSc
09-19-2002, 10:02 AM
anyone else get there new set? I sure havent...
Chris
Thomas A
09-19-2002, 12:43 PM
I sure haven't. If I don't get them today, I'll be giving them a call tommorow morning. Grrrr....
Thomas
Slysc
09-19-2002, 01:10 PM
I bet they are making new alternator pullies before they send them out.
Dan
ilusnforc
09-19-2002, 04:16 PM
this is getting rediculous. How many different sets of pulleys have they made??? Does anybody know when we will get pulleys that will fit and work properly?? Thanks
Slysc
09-20-2002, 08:43 AM
I've had mine for a couple weeks. I picked them up at March. They did require some slight modification to the alternator pulley to fit. Call Randy at March and find out what they are doing. My guess is that they are fixing the alternator pulley.
Thomas A
09-22-2002, 07:18 PM
I called him Friday. Here's what's going on:
Half of the alt. pulleys had been reworked at that time, and had already shipped. Duane got his that Thursday. The other half were getting fixed at that time, and should be here Tuesday or Wednesday of this week. So if your the half that hasn't gotten them yet(myself included) they will be here begining of next week.
Thomas
SweetSc
09-29-2002, 11:25 AM
Well the begining of the week came and then the end of the week and still no damn pulleys!
I want my shiny pulleys! lol
Chris
:mad:
Thomas A
09-29-2002, 12:37 PM
Same here. No Pulleys, No Happy! I meant to call him on Friday but I totally spaced it. GRrrrr....
Thomas
pastera
09-30-2002, 08:16 AM
I have the alternator pulley and it still does not fit.
The hub is 30 mil too short causing the back of the pulley to rub on the alt housing. I verified this using the old pulley and alternator on my bench, so I may be off a few mil. I have a someone making me a 30 mil shim to test with.
Also the machine work done on the new pulley was terrible.
Aaron
Thomas A
09-30-2002, 10:10 PM
The rest of them are being shipped out tommorow 10-01-02.
Thomas
Pablo94SC
10-02-2002, 11:13 PM
Welp, I kept my pulleys after the crnk pulley fiasco and if I have issues I'm going to a local machine shops and have them fix it. I'm not waiting around for March anymore.
Paul
ilusnforc
10-09-2002, 03:43 PM
can you confirm that they were actually shipped out on 10-1-02?? i still haven't gotten them in yet and im just wondering if anyone else does have them. I haven't heard much about them lately.
SweetSc
10-09-2002, 03:47 PM
i was wondering the same thing... I havent gotten mine yet either.
chris
V8Supercoupe
10-09-2002, 05:05 PM
Same here boys.....
Get 'em Thomas........
GET'EM........
LOL!
Skip
Nick Sc
10-09-2002, 07:11 PM
After reading through all the posts in this thread. I'm scared to ask the ? but here it goes anyway. Do you think that once march gets the correct calculations on (all) of the pullys that they will market these for our cars or keep a set on the self. Also how much did the pullys cost. How much do they underdrive. Thanks Nick
Thomas A
10-09-2002, 09:34 PM
Some day we are going to laugh at this. BUT NOT TODAY!!!! I WANT MY PULLEYS!!!!! Anyway, I can't confirm that they actually shipped out then. All I have is Randy's word(whoopie!!) Anyway, If I don't see anything by tommorow, I will call him YET again. Nick, if you want in, it's $150. There should still be a couple of sets left.
Thomas
Slysc
10-10-2002, 10:57 AM
I asked Randy when I picked up my pulleys back in September if they planned to make these a catalog item and offer them to the public. He said that they are thinking about it. But the cost would be $229. The $150 is just for us cause we've helped them develop them and put up with all the hassle.
Nick Sc
10-10-2002, 11:35 AM
Well I got to ask are they going to be a direct bolt on when they get done ?? If so I do want in, where do I send my money
###How much underdrive are these pullys ####
Thomas A
10-12-2002, 11:27 PM
Yes, they will be a direct bolt on. The crank is 25%.
UPDATE:
For those of you that are still waiting for thier pulleys(including myself).......Appreantly there has been some sort of paper work fiasco with the second set of orders. The shipping papers had to be processed manualy and something happened with them. I will have a better answer as to what is going on Monday. As soon as the problem is resolved, the pulleys should be sent out overnight.
Thomas
XR7 Dave
10-14-2002, 08:49 AM
Aw cripes. For what it's worth I haven't got mine either.
Thomas A
10-14-2002, 11:28 PM
I AM STEAMING MAD HERE!!!!!
I talked to them again today and they said "ooops, we misplaced the paper work." "We will get those shipped out tommorow" What a load of crap! As Dave would say, that is totally bogus!
Thomas
SweetSc
10-14-2002, 11:34 PM
Has it been well over 5 months now? This is getting rediculous. Although, there is no way in hell i'm asking for a refund. I've been in this long... I'm not pulling out.
Chris
Thomas A
10-14-2002, 11:54 PM
That's the spirit Chris!! Actually, it's been almost 6 months, but who's counting. I have held these pulleys in my hands. The correct ones that is. They are freaking sweeeeet!!!!! If you want them sooner, I'm sure Duane would sell his for $200 :)
Thomas
ilusnforc
10-15-2002, 12:27 AM
I sent an email directly to March Performance last week, I just got a reply today. They said they will be shipped out 10-15-02 and I should recieve them on 10-18-02. I will be looking forward to getting my pulleys on Friday... so, does anyone have any step-by-step instructions on what tools are needed, steps to remove pulleys, different size belt needed?? Thanks, and I hope the pulleys are right this time.
Nick Sc
10-15-2002, 12:31 PM
Could someone tell me please if I can still get in on this buy, and how. Also are the
Thomas A
10-15-2002, 01:19 PM
Nick,
Just give Randy a call at March Performance to order. Hopefully you can still get the $150 price. His number is (734) 729-9070 Visa/Mastercard accepted. Good Luck!
Thomas
Nick Sc
10-16-2002, 01:26 PM
They want $230 for them now. That sucks I can't really aford that.
SweetSc
10-18-2002, 01:42 PM
its the 18th? Any takers on if they come in or not? lol
chris
Thomas A
10-18-2002, 10:55 PM
Well, I sure didn't get mine. I'll be calling them on Monday....yawn....
Thomas
SweetSc
10-18-2002, 10:57 PM
me either. Raise some hell buddy.
Chris
V8Supercoupe
10-19-2002, 09:30 AM
I got mine yesterday.
I have the alternator pulley.
That's an 8 rib...
The crank pulley has an 8 rib and a 7 rib.
AND..I HAVE NO WATERPUMP PULLEY!
Skip
BT Motorsports
10-19-2002, 09:33 AM
Thats correct Skip, if you want your crank pulley to be an 8 rib and work with the 8 rib drive for the jack pulley, you will need to send it to ESM for modification. Cost is $135 for the labor, but I do recommend that you get a quality detailed pic of the crank pulley first to me to ensure it can be modified like the ASP pulley is.
V8Supercoupe
10-19-2002, 09:38 AM
Now there's someting I didn't think of.....
DUH!
I'll be in touch.
Skip
johnny o
10-22-2002, 03:03 AM
Can you please email me (johnny@ieathondas.com) when you get mine. I can't remember our shipping arrangements anymore but I'm sure we'll figure it out hehe. At any rate I know March charged my card for them when the other ones went out so let me know when you get my correct set. :) Thanks.
Thomas A
10-22-2002, 04:23 PM
Will do Johnny. I'll shoot you an e-mail as soon as I recieve the pulleys from March. I've got a couple of sets to send up north. I'll send you all the shipping info as soon as I can. Thanks!
Thomas
ilusnforc
10-22-2002, 06:18 PM
I got my pulleys in yesterday. They look right to me, correct number of belt ribs anyway. Has anyone installed them yet? March also sent me a UPS sticker to put on the box to send the wrong pulleys back to them, so im glad i hung on to them. They look nice, and Thomas, thanks for setting up a group buy to get some awesome pulleys, and for going through hell with us.
Thomas A
10-22-2002, 07:35 PM
Not a Problem! I'm glad you got them. I just wish mine would show up!?!?!?!
Thomas
SweetSc
10-22-2002, 09:08 PM
dont feel bad, I have yet to recieve mine as well.
Chris
Thomas A
10-24-2002, 11:10 PM
I got my pulleys today!!! YES!!!!! Is there anyone out there that has yet to recieve them?
Thomas
SweetSc
10-24-2002, 11:55 PM
I still havent gotten mine. Can you call and find out whats up?
Chris
Thomas A
10-25-2002, 12:50 AM
That blows. If you still don't have them by tommorow, let me know and I will chew some asz for ya.
Thomas -- thomasma@alltel.net
SweetSc
10-25-2002, 12:54 AM
will do. I'll let ya know tommorow.
chris
V8Supercoupe
10-25-2002, 07:59 PM
What should I do about my waterpump pulley?
Skip
SweetSc
10-25-2002, 10:21 PM
hey thomas,
I still HAVE NOT recieved my pulleys!!! Can you call or can you give me the # so I can?
Thanks
Chris
Thomas A
10-25-2002, 10:59 PM
Randy @ March Performance:
• TEL: (734) 729-9070
• FAX: (734) 729-9075
• EMAIL: info@marchperf.com
Boostman23
10-26-2002, 01:45 AM
still waiting here as well, and I never recieved a ****** up pair either!:mad:
Pablo94SC
10-27-2002, 10:37 PM
You'll probably need to call them then. Apparently they had lost my original paperwork and had to get it from me. Maybe the same happened to you too?
Paul
pastera
10-29-2002, 05:44 PM
Has anyone installed the pulleys yet?
My alternator pulley rubs on the alternator housing - the hub on the back of the pulley is 0.30 too short, so the back of the pulley hits the face of the alternator
Aaron
Thomas A
10-29-2002, 10:15 PM
They were supposed to fix that actually. That was part of the delay. They might of accidently sent you a non fixed one, or forgot to fix it. I'm going to be calling them tommorow, so I will let them know that you are having a problem with it.
Thomas
Slysc
10-30-2002, 11:05 AM
I just took a die grinder and ground down the little ring that sticks out of the housing. That's what's rubbing. I've been running my pulleys with no probs. I have however noticed that their total runout is a bit high (they aren't perfectly round and they wobble ever so slightly). I don't think it's a big issue but one would think that their tolerances would be a bit lower than that for a billet pulley.
pastera
10-30-2002, 12:21 PM
I got the alt pulley that the hub OD was too large and complained. The replacement they sent looked like my two year old machined it. Now the pulley will mount but the hub is too short and the back face of the pulley hits the alternator.
I'm going to get a 0.030 shim made to put the pulley in the proper place. Grinding down the Alt housing will not put the belts in the correct alignment. Yeah, I'm an engineer - I want it done right and know that I'm being an ~~~ about 30 mil.
Aaron
Tory Smith
10-30-2002, 02:14 PM
I have a couple questions...
First. What do you mean they wobble? That will be bad. I don't need the crank pulley putting anymore stress on our already weakazz balancer.
And I need some tips on getting the alternator pulley off. They say use an air impact wrench. I only have an electric impact and it doesn’t look like it wants to work to well. Did everyone have to remove their alternator to get to it? I unbolted mine but left it in so I could just turn it to get a good angle for the wrench to fit.
Thanks. I know I coulda posted this on the tech forum But I know the majority of people who have done pulleys are right here.
pastera
10-30-2002, 06:34 PM
Tory
If you have a bench vise, wrap your old belt around the pulley and hold it in the vise by the belt. Then use a breaker bar to get the nut off. Once the nut is off, drive the shaft out of the pulley - you only need to break it free then it will slide off easily.
Aaron
ilusnforc
10-30-2002, 09:31 PM
i havent checked up on this post in about a week and it makes me mad that i didnt. I tried to get my alt pulley on today and the shaft is too short, it rubs on the alt housing. I spent about 2 hours messing with getting the alternator off, then figured that it isnt gonna come off unless you take out the upper IC tube, so put all the bolts back on and ended up using a pipe wrench and a breaker bar to get the pulley off only to find that the march pulley rubs. i gave randy a call and he told me he had to check if he had the correct one in stock, so i guess i have to give him a call tomorrow and see if he can get me the right pulley... again...
SweetSc
10-30-2002, 09:57 PM
Finally got my pulleys in.... Thanks Thomas! I will have them installed next week.
chris
Thomas A
10-31-2002, 02:41 AM
Not a problem Chirs! Is there anyone else besides Rob that hasn't yet recieved thier pulleys? Please let me know!
Thomas
pastera
10-31-2002, 02:20 PM
ilusnforc:
Thanks for confirming what I thought - the damn pulley does not fit.
I'll be sending mine in too.
Aaron
Thomas A
11-15-2002, 12:27 AM
CLOSED. THANKS!!!
Thomas
ilusnforc
11-15-2002, 01:58 AM
Did everyone get their pulleys and take the time to install them?? I'm still waiting on another alternator pulley from March...
ilusnforc
11-15-2002, 02:00 AM
double post...
Boostman23
11-15-2002, 04:27 AM
still waiting here!:o
plev72
11-19-2002, 10:10 PM
Has anyone put the pulley's on a '94 5-speed? I bought the ASP's and they didn't work so I'm returning them. If someone has gotten the March pulley's to work on their '94 (now that March seems to have finally gotten themselves sorted out) I may go with them....
Thanks,
Paul
plev72
11-19-2002, 10:10 PM
Has anyone put the pulley's on a '94 5-speed? I bought the ASP's and they didn't work so I'm returning them. If someone has gotten the March pulley's to work on their '94 (now that March seems to have finally gotten themselves sorted out) I may go with them....
Thanks,
Paul
Tory Smith
11-20-2002, 02:00 AM
Let me be the first and hopefully the last person to report that my alternator pulley has broken into two pieces.
The centerpiece (hub) looks like it broke complete around the bolt. The hub is still bolted on and the outer piece just spins metal shavings.
What do I do about this? I will be out of town for the rest of the week.
Do you think they will send me a new one?
ilusnforc
11-23-2002, 02:57 PM
Last week i finally got the third alternator pulley in from march and finally got around to installing it. Its exactly the same as the second pulley i got, still rubs on the alternator housing. I talked to randy and told him it needs to be about another 1/4 deeper to get it to clear the alt. housing. Is anyone else still having this problem and still waiting on pulleys? Randy said they will get something made up for me and sent out by tuesday. Im getting pretty sick of this. Also, while messing with the pulley one of the fan blades inside the alternator got bent and sometimes it makes a little squeak noise... new alternator, try to bend it back, or live with it??
Thanks
SweetSc
11-23-2002, 09:19 PM
It would help if we knew the year of your car. The late model Sc's need a spacer to clear the alternator. So if you have a 94-95 You will need one.
chris
ilusnforc
11-24-2002, 04:13 AM
mine is a '95 5-speed, did you use a spacer or did march give you one??? Or are you still waiting on something from them? When installing mine we ended up making a spacer that is very temporary until i can get something permanant done.
SweetSc
11-24-2002, 01:11 PM
I had a friend make a brass spacer. ASP does the same thing with thier pulleys. You will need a spacer made if they dont fix the pulley.
Chris
SweetSc
12-11-2002, 06:19 PM
Ok what da hell.... I just had my mechinic install the pulleys and he said the crank pulley was wobbling. I havent seen it yet, but Im on the phone with March now.... anyone else come across this problem?
chris
Slysc
12-11-2002, 06:39 PM
Did he take the counter balance weights out of the harmonic balancer? The March pulleys are a zero balance unit. The Stock pulleys were not balanced and so they put weights in the dampner to counter balance the stock pulleys. When you put the zero balance pulleys on, you need to take the weights out of the dampner.
If he did take them out and their still wobbling, then I'm not sure what your problem is. My pulleys aren't perfect (if you look hard you can see a 1-2mm wobble) but I've been running them no prob. for a while now.
ilusnforc
12-29-2002, 11:18 PM
March finally sent me a pulley that works, they just knocked off the shank and gave me 2 different size spacers to see which one would fit better and the larger one did work. The pulleys all fit just fine now and hopefully gave a little more power back to the motor.
SweetSc
01-02-2003, 11:14 PM
Well I finally got around to replacing the wobbling crank pulley with the new One March sent me. Good new is it doesnt wobble anymore!
Hell ya! 7 months in the making and I have my damn pulleys on the CAR!! SWEET!!
Chris
Tory Smith
01-27-2003, 06:27 PM
So. I need to know. How have the pulleys been treating everyone?
I had a problem with my alt pulley but got a new one and it is installed.
Anyone else notice how when tightening the alt pulley you can see the locknut dig into the pulley? I'm affraid that after time the pulley will wear down.
ilusnforc
01-27-2003, 09:15 PM
You were able to get a lock washer in there?? lol... what year is yours?? i think they are different from '89-'93 and '94-'95 because March had to send me 4 pulleys before they got one that wouldnt rub on the alternator housing, and since it had to be spaced more to clear it then the shaft became too short and all i can get on there is the nut with a few threads. It does concern me with it like that but its been running a few times over the last couple of weeks and I just got back from the Houston meet. They were pretty impressed with my "bling bling" ZR Intake and March pulleys... :D
Tory Smith
01-27-2003, 09:25 PM
Well I have a 90 and the first pulley sheared and spun on the front side of my alternator so I have nothing to worrie about rubbing due to lack of material. LOL.
The new one they sent me was differnent from the first. The inner "shank" was not as deep and I had to get a spacer. Now I have plenty of thread to use and if I didnt use the washer I wouldnt be able to tighten it down.
I ran mine for a week before It broke last and I just put it back together Saturday night. When I look at the pulleys when they are spinning they wobble jsut a bit. I just feel that the water pump bearings, Alternator bearings and what ever else are in trouble. I hate thinking that my car could breakdown any moment.
I hope March gets it right when they start mass producing for the big $$$.
SweetSc
01-28-2003, 10:50 AM
I originally had problems with the crank pulley wobbling, but since have gotten a replacement and all is fine. I have driven the car probably 500 miles since with no problems....
My only complaint is the lack of traction I have recieved in 2nd gear now! LOL
Chris
Boostman23
02-01-2003, 01:10 AM
Finally got my pullies!
Hope they dont have any flaws
pastera
02-03-2003, 02:37 PM
About 7k on my pulleys, no real complaints. The alternator runs a little slow but not too bad.
I tried to shim the alternator pulley but gave up and shaved the alternator casing instead. This is my only complaint about these pulleys
All of the pulleys run prety much true. I have a new water pump and BJH damper and both show almost no wobble (<0.010). The alternator pulley is so small it would take a lot of wobble to see it.
Aaron
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